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Me and Cotie just started a new site and Cotie is friends with a guy who has been friends with Axl from the mid 80's and still is friends with him. They even jammed together on Rock N' Roll with Traci Guns back in the day....

Cotie had a one hour interview with him regarding the old days, and a lot of info about Chinese Democracy and you can read it right here http://gunnersground.bbfun.com/gunnersground-about51.html

Some key points were about how this guy actually jammed? with Axl when they were looking for a new guitarist, jammed on This I Love, and he actually goes into detail about a bunch of the new songs, and you need to go here now and check this out for yourselfs....

http://gunnersground.bbfun.com/gunnersground-about51.html


There you can see the fine-points of the [over one hour] long invterview they had. There will also be a link to where you can see the video of them playing together long ago.

This guy was in the band Shark Island, which some of you may know.. they were a popular band until they broke up, and are currently back together. Anyway, check this out.. this is must know information!!!

By the way, this guy is a member of our forum!

" He also mention that Axl stole his lead singers stage moves. "

we've been worshiping the wrong guy people

From what I read that was total shit.  Worthless.  Checkmate is not a new song.

Where's the whole interview?

nothing really new, and I even don't believe it's 100% genuine :hihi:

Looked like crap to me.

i understand all these opinions, but i sware to you, on my family that this is legit.

No one is doubting that the interview is real, good work on that. Its what he is saying that people are skeptical about. Includes me too. Damned if I didnt read every word three times though  : ok:

Well its alot of info about CD after so much time with no info so at first glance, its kind of hard to beleive what the man is saying is true. But, he's known Axl for over 20 years, still talks with him today... and he wouldn't just make this up...

hope everyone enjoys the interview!

IF he is a friend of axl,  talking to some web-site is a dirty thing to do.

He is not a friend of Axl.  he is a fake friend.

Well he's a friend of mine so it balances out not counting fame.

Maybe someone can copy and paste for those that don't want to join just to read it?  :)

Not saying you're lying, but to me, it seems like a really cheap way to trick people into joining your forum. That "interview" is all either stuff we already know ("there's a bit of everything on CD") or not verifyable by anyone here (how Axl *supposedly* looked like 6 years ago).
Frankly, anyone of us could have made it up and you couldn't prove him wrong, cause there's no actual information anywhere in the "interview".

As goes for the copying - not sure if that's ok, but IMO it's not worth the read, so don't even bother.

I don't want to join the forum/web site - can someone post the interview here?

Yeah, please post here :)

Uh... does "this guy" have a name? ?I don't want to join, either. ?Seems like a scam to get people to sign up. ?

yeah, I thought the same thing

Lock this shit. This dude is just trying to get visibility for the website.

 :rofl:

bullshit interview, the songs this guy lists as confirmed for cd is songs that we knew would be on there anyways.  and dont bother signing up for that forum, it sux.  definetely just trying to get some exposure for there site.  fuck u cotie & efish,  douchebags :smoking:

This is about a member of this forum:

It was 1996 and he was flown in from Germany to LA. The suits at the studio asked him what music he listened to and if he ever heard of Guns N Roses. He told them that he played with them a coulpe of times. They had him play the solos of the old songs to see how he could handle them and his Welcome to the Jungle is said to be better then the original he also played Sweet Child O Mine and November Rain and some more. They had him play along with tapes and in his words described as: "Then they handed me a raw version of a song with heavy emphasis on pianos. There was a piano, drums and drum machine, and a bass line, I don't know if it was a real song though. There was also a very heavy song lots of effects and bass, I didn't like it." There was one with Axl singing, quote "his voice seemed far away though." He may have also played on some of 'This I Love' could only be described as in his words, "very emotional, light drums(i think drum machine at that time though), piano, and no major bass lines." The solos he played in the song cam around the 2 min point and at the end; they wanted him to improvise on the chords to see what he could come up with. he meet up with Axl there and his description of him was "big, bloated, he had a beard like the UYI days, his hair was short like it looks in the mugshot real short and was dark like it was in 2001, he was wearing normal everyday clothes..." he said they said Hi and bullshitted around listened to some music. He played his guitar and Axl played on the piano a little. When it was all done they at the studio he shook hands with the suits and they told him they would keep in touch. But while auditioning he could tell he wasnt what they were looking for.

I asked about past stories with the band also:

He first met Axl back in the 80's and they played together alittle(video included). He was also with the old band playing together doing drugs the rockstar 80's shit everyone did. He doesnt have much ties with the new line up just met them and thats about it. He also mention that Axl stole his lead singers stage moves.

His words on Chinese Democracy and unreleased stuff:

"If not released by December then there wont be a cd."

"People wont be disappointed."

"There is Ballads, hard rock, grungy rock and experimental songs."

"I believe Checkmate is real but weirdly mixed"

"...great stuff and some god awful stuff."

"Rhiahds has a different mix compared to silk worms but written better."

"Raspy for the songs more 2006 sounding then 2002."

Songs on Chinese Democracy for sure:

1. Chinese Democracy
2. Better
3. The Blues
4. There Was a Time
5. Madagascar

Chinese Democracy(album) went through stages:
96-97 it was more mellow
98-00 it was more industrial
2001-2002...nothing
2003-2006 it turned into everything piled together.
Under Geffen label

We will get a announcment early/mid August on chinese Democracy and US tour info to be release then to.

From Shark Island member

No Offense EFISH.. But I think ya have been shisted by this Cotie..

awesome choice of songs... bullshit anyways...



the band didn`t record in 2001-2002??  is the guy kidding??



anyone can guess that..... my prediction as well :peace:


i think i heard this crap somewhere before..... why did axl become famous and not the original lead singer?   ... ::)


why that?


i hope so


the blues, IRS, chinese democracy, silkworms                  ??


i guess he doesn`t like silkworms...


i don?t understand these sentences...



sorry dude, but this sounds like bullshit to me. any board member here could make up shit like that to be honest.

no new info. fake

I have an interview with Slash's dog if anyone is interested.

what does he say?  is november the month?

Well the only way you will get that interveiw is to go to www.rosesofvelvet.com   Its on the Live Radio.. you must learn to speak cocker spaniel..

No Shark Island member would make up this nonsense, surely.

C'mon guys..
This is just ridiculous. I'm trying to get people to sign up for our site, so we got Cotie to make up this totally bogus interview, we looked up this person's name and everything. Ha yeah right! ::)

I could honestly care less how many members of the forum we've got. It doesn't matter to me or Cotie. Just because what has been said in the interview about CD we have decided is probally true, doesn't mean this makes it false. It just verifys what we thought was true, is true.

To those that know me, you guys know I wouldn't pull a stunt like faking something like that, you just know I wouldn't do that. I'm here, like most of you to enjoy GNR and enjoy 'kickin' it' with the cool members of the boards.

I actually talked to this guy yesterday and the day before, and he is the person in question. He doesn't want his name to actually be said here, or in the interview---but yes, it's real. I also understand why everyone is maybe calling bullshit through there eyes, but I don't understand why some are actually bashing Cotie and I. Whatever guys, I just tried to show you guys something that was very cool, but this shit always happens in topics like this. Next time, I'll keep it somewhere else.

Good idea.

why isnt ths locked yet

Apparently if you ask anyone who was on the strip at the time then Axl did steal the Shark Island singers moves.  : ok:

It's just that Axl could sing and GN'R had songs were great and that Shark Island weren't much good as to why Shark Island were never the biggest band on the planet.  ;D ;D

Spence?

anyway, Shark Island is great.  actually, he's not too hard to contact, if you know where to look.

flame away, but it's probably true.

well he does have over 1100 posts... i've believe you, no reason not to. thanks for the post.

Are you seriouse? With this method we have some champions here.

this part would have sounded so much better if it began with:

unce upona time...   like all fairy tails do


c'mon, who the hell believes that crap?! 


now theres a revalation...
I guess you really need to be axls friend to know that.

so what wont be there?! he just covered the whole industry except regge.



what's a weird mix?! and the song isnt called Checkmate.

:lol:


what the fuck?!



wow!!! OLD NEWS IS SO EXCITING!!!


ooooook... to quote my self again,
Old news is so exciting.
P.S.
2001-2002- nothing?!


no shit sherlock.
the usa tour starts in september, they HAVE TO anunce it in august.



this must be the lamest atempt at making up an interview, or Axl's friend is a total idiot.

Good idea  : ok:

If a Shark Island member did say any of this then you should learn not to be so naive. You should also learn to post the text here of the interview, with the source, and not use it as a direct advertising tool. That is against the netiquette of an forum, even I know that.

Ladies and Gentleman, "FERNANDO". Betas son. welcome, hows axl buddy? tell him frozen said hi? ;)





i think it is. thats what was said in the email razzle got before it leaked. (or after) you know what i mean.