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Title: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 02:33:33 AM I just watched this clip on youtube.com... man, Axl's voice is shot. Its gone, folks. He can't sing anymore. I used to love the guy's voice too. He's not even close. For those who say "he's back", I'm sorry, you must have been really young back in the 80's (or not even born). That is not the Axl Rose we all grew up with. He's not even close. The reason the record has been stalled repeatedly is because his voice is shot and its giving him lots of trouble. I'm sorry to say it, but Axl is finished. I will miss him too, he delivered some mesmorizing songs.
Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: DunkinDave on July 04, 2006, 02:36:03 AM Um - the Rock in Rio show had a faulty audio mix.
Download some of the other bootlegs available from this year and I'm sure your opinion will change. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 02:37:59 AM Um - the Rock in Rio show had a faulty audio mix. This is an excuse, bro. You can't blame the mix. No mix makes that voice sound right. Don't make excuses for him. I used to love his concert voice back in the early 90's (when others hated it). Its not even close. The mix... :hihi: Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: DunkinDave on July 04, 2006, 02:39:59 AM Um - the Rock in Rio show had a faulty audio mix. This is an excuse, bro.? You can't blame the mix.? The band's manager even issued a statement about it. One of the soundboards malfunctioned. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: zakas80 on July 04, 2006, 02:41:44 AM a clip from youtube is hardly the place to evaluate anything! axl sounds pretty damn great so far!
Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 02:43:34 AM The band's manager even issued a statement about it. One of the soundboards malfunctioned. ie Axl's voice really blew tonight, so we must officially release a list of excuses to the public. Dude, it has nothing to do with the soundboards. You either have a voice or you don't. The soundboard can enhance the voice and balance it with the music, but it can't totally alter the voice coming into the mic (unless its specifically designed for this). FWIW, I've listened to the other shows too. He's not anything near the Axl of old. That's why he's no longer selling out arenas in North America. If his voice was right, he'd be ruler of the rock world right now, because most of the rock music out today kinda sucks. Look, I used to worship Axl. I'm not trying to bash him, but its over... Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 02:44:33 AM a clip from youtube is hardly the place to evaluate anything! axl sounds pretty damn great so far! He sounded just like the 2002 VMA's in that clip. But I suppose its youtube's fault and the soundboard's fault, huh? Funny how they replicated that 2002 VMA voice just so perfectly. :hihi: Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: DunkinDave on July 04, 2006, 02:47:19 AM I'm a faggot who hasn't been paying attention to what the band has been doing and think I can come on a Guns N' Roses board and act like I know what I'm talking about Sorry, you can't. Oh gee, here's a clip where the sound mix is acceptable: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cml1_HmDf-g Does that suck too? Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Gnr_man202 on July 04, 2006, 02:51:58 AM So now it's 'over' because Axl had a bad performance of a song more than a month ago?
Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 02:53:15 AM Oh gee, here's a clip where the sound mix is acceptable: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cml1_HmDf-g Does that suck too? Honestly, yes. The band sounds great, Axl's voice is acceptable in the intro, but he loses control of it during the verses. Even with the music sped up, he still can't hit the same notes he could before. Its over, bro. Was that the best you got? His voice sounds horrible. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Schwarzgold on July 04, 2006, 02:56:43 AM Haha, I'm looking "KOHD" from RiR06 for the ... don't know ... 700th time, and I remember what my girlfriend said, when she first saw it: "Wow, he really can sing now?" She never was a big GNR-fan, but she really was impressed by the (SicRadical)-Clips of RiR06.
Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: DunkinDave on July 04, 2006, 03:00:27 AM Was that the best you got?? His voice sounds horrible.? Flame bait - ban please. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 03:00:57 AM Haha, I'm looking "KOHD" from RiR06 for the ... don't know ... 700th time, and I remember what my girlfriend said, when she first saw it: "Wow, he really can sing now?" She never was a big GNR-fan, but she really was impressed by the (SicRadical)-Clips of RiR06. Dude, I was a huge Axl fan back in the day. There's nothing that will convince me his voice is better or on the same level now as it was 15 years ago. If anything, with the type of voice he has, his age is probably hurting it more than anything. We're not talking about Frank Sinatra here. You can dream all you want, but none of the 2006 stuff is anywhere near vintage Axl. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 03:01:35 AM Flame bait - ban please. You asked a question, I answered it. What else did you want me to do? Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Death Cube K on July 04, 2006, 03:02:53 AM You have no idea what the fuck youre talking about. I saw Axl dead center at Oslo Spektrum last Wednesday and his voice was fantastic. If you havent been to any shows and are just watching Youtube, then please do everyone a favour and shut your mouth.
Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: DunkinDave on July 04, 2006, 03:03:26 AM Haha, I'm looking "KOHD" from RiR06 for the ... don't know ... 700th time, and I remember what my girlfriend said, when she first saw it: "Wow, he really can sing now?" She never was a big GNR-fan, but she really was impressed by the (SicRadical)-Clips of RiR06. Dude, I was a huge Axl fan back in the day.? There's nothing that will convince me his voice is better or on the same level now as it was 15 years ago.? If anything, with the type of voice he has, his age is probably hurting it more than anything.? We're not talking about Frank Sinatra here.? You can dream all you want, but none of the 2006 stuff is anywhere near vintage Axl.? Do you even have any bootlegs? Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: tonya_ytzerman on July 04, 2006, 03:04:18 AM I have been to 5 shows now. Sometimes, the mix sucked (Rock am Ring, Zurich), sometimes, it was great. Maybe the bad mix sometimes coincided with Axl having a bad voice day, I'm not arguing that. All I'm saying is that the people I dragged to the shows who are not even the slightest bit into Gn'R at all were very impressed by the concerts.
I have seen some of the bootlegs of the shows I have been at - they are complete crap, the sound was totally different at the show. And it is my opinion that they do concerts for the people that attend it, not for the bootleggers. If you have a chance to catch em live, do yourself the favor and get a basis for your criticism. PS: If you don't like the 2006 version of Axl, why don't you just move on and leave us fatuous Axl-lovers here to ourselves. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Death Cube K on July 04, 2006, 03:05:44 AM Exactly.
Those who have not been to any of these shows should be be allowed to express opinions on this matter because they simply havent any basic information. Bootlegs my ass. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: themovieaddict.com on July 04, 2006, 03:06:00 AM I'm a faggot who hasn't been paying attention to what the band has been doing and think I can come on a Guns N' Roses board and act like I know what I'm talking about Sorry, you can't. Oh gee, here's a clip where the sound mix is acceptable: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cml1_HmDf-g Does that suck too? I gotta agree with POV, Axl's voice on Paradise City really isn't much different than at the VMAs. I'm not bashing, but it's still high-pitched. I actually thought Out Ta Get Me was his best performance at RIR vocally - apart from KOHD, which was gold. But every time someone says his voice isn't good, people say "you can't judge from a low-quality bootleg"...POV is right - it might be low quality but you can still hear his voice and tell if it's high pitched or not. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 03:06:06 AM Do you even have any bootlegs? Of course. Look, don't try to act like I'm not a real Gunner just because I think Axl's voice has really lost a lot in the past say 15 years. Its just a simple fact. I was hoping Axl would make a strong comeback, but I don't think he can with this 2006 voice. Its mostly helium with a few old Axl's screeches here and there. Facts are facts. Why is he not selling out shows in the US? Why no album? Why? Because his voice is gone. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: DunkinDave on July 04, 2006, 03:07:06 AM Do you even have any bootlegs? Of course.? Look, don't try to act like I'm not a real Gunner just because I think Axl's voice has really lost a lot in the past say 15 years.? Its just a simple fact.? I was hoping Axl would make a strong comeback, but I don't think he can with this 2006 voice.? Its mostly helium with a few old Axl's screeches here and there.? Facts are facts.? Why is he not selling out shows in the US?? Why no album?? Why?? Because his voice is gone.? He hasn't attempted a North American tour in 4 years - what are you on about? Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Death Cube K on July 04, 2006, 03:07:30 AM Shut your mouth POV.
You havent been to a friggin show. I have. Everyone was overwhelmed how good his voice was and how he sang the songs. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 03:08:43 AM Exactly. Those who have not been to any of these shows should be be allowed to express opinions on this matter because they simply havent any basic information. Bootlegs my ass. So, if we haven't flown to Europe to see a show, we can't have an opinion on Axl's voice? Get real. You're glossing over the facts. In 2002, GnR shows weren't selling out. If Axl's voice still rocked, he'd be selling out every fucking venue in North America. He was THE MAN back in the day. Nobody could touch him. I'm not trying to bash Axl, but bootlegs, live shows, whatever... his voice ain't there... Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: 33 on July 04, 2006, 03:09:29 AM I just watched this clip on youtube.com... man, Axl's voice is shot.? Its gone, folks.? He can't sing anymore.? I used to love the guy's voice too.? He's not even close.? For those who say "he's back", I'm sorry, you must have been really young back in the 80's (or not even born).? That is not the Axl Rose we all grew up with.? He's not even close.? The reason the record has been stalled repeatedly is because his voice is shot and its giving him lots of trouble.? I'm sorry to say it, but Axl is finished.? I will miss him too, he delivered some mesmorizing songs.? Mate I appreciate peoples opinions but sorry your wrong. I have seen the band 21 times between 1989 and two weeks ago at Download. His voice is not shot to bits at all. It is fantastic to be quite honest. I really done know what gives you this impression. Have you been to any of the shows on this current tour? Because if you are judging it from some web casts then surely you know that is not a true reflection at all! Come on eh your obviously a long times guns fans, lets be positive and not say stuff like "its over" when its clearly not, the fun is just cranking up again! Be happy! Mike Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Six Strings on July 04, 2006, 03:09:53 AM I just watched this clip on youtube.com... man, Axl's voice is shot.? Its gone, folks.? He can't sing anymore.? I used to love the guy's voice too.? He's not even close.? For those who say "he's back", I'm sorry, you must have been really young back in the 80's (or not even born).? That is not the Axl Rose we all grew up with.? He's not even close.? The reason the record has been stalled repeatedly is because his voice is shot and its giving him lots of trouble.? I'm sorry to say it, but Axl is finished.? I will miss him too, he delivered some mesmorizing songs.? I agree with most of the things but just saying "over"....noo...I mean I was writing in GN'R forums about 4 or 5 years ago and everyone was talking about how great GN'R are with this stupid dick Buckethead...jeeeesuuuus...anyway, it's not as it was and I guess until complete reunion is made it won't be the same...my opinion though...and yes, Axl's voice definitely not the same. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Death Cube K on July 04, 2006, 03:10:32 AM No you can't express an opinion on a voice you havent heard. If you saw a show in 2002 then you can express an opinion about that. You clearly have no idea what youre talking about. I heard his voice LIVE and it was amazing. Better than expected.
Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 03:10:57 AM Shut your mouth. You havent been to a friggin show. I have. As if it really makes a difference. Look, if Axl's voice is so great, then why are there so many threads here about how bad it sounds now? If his voice is the same, why are there all these people saying it isn't? Why isn't he ruling the rock world with this powerful voice he has? Its not the same. I don't give two fucks if you've been to one of the shows. This doesn't change a damn thing. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 03:11:53 AM No you can't express an opinion on a voice you havent heard. If you saw a show in 2002 then you can express an opinion about that. You clearly have no idea what youre talking about. I heard his voice LIVE and it was amazing. Better than expected. So, unless I go to Europe this summer, I can't have an opinion about Axl's voice? :hihi: Utter fucking bullshit... :rofl: Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Death Cube K on July 04, 2006, 03:12:47 AM Its usually coming from people listening to crappy bootlegs pretending to be experts. Kind of like yourself. You could have been standing outside Oslo Spektrum asking people about his voice and you would not have gotten one bad word about it. And thats a fact.
Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: DunkinDave on July 04, 2006, 03:12:50 AM Look, if Axl's voice is so great, then why are there so many threads here about how bad it sounds now?? Because you're starting them. You've stated your opinion - now let it rest. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 03:12:58 AM and yes, Axl's voice definitely not the same. Thank you. : ok: Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Death Cube K on July 04, 2006, 03:13:49 AM No unless you go to Europe you cant have a good opinion about Axl voice in 2006. Now stop this thread.
Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 03:14:04 AM Look, if Axl's voice is so great, then why are there so many threads here about how bad it sounds now? Because you're starting them. Oh, you mean I'm the only person here to start a Axl's voice thread? Leave the :smoking: and the :beer: alone for a while, and come back to me. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Miggy on July 04, 2006, 03:14:21 AM Guys, this dude is having fun behind his little computer right now. ?He only started this tread because he knows lots of dudes right here will jump on that horse. ?Just ignore him. ?: ok:
Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Gnr_man202 on July 04, 2006, 03:14:51 AM No you can't express an opinion on a voice you havent heard. If you saw a show in 2002 then you can express an opinion about that. You clearly have no idea what youre talking about. I heard his voice LIVE and it was amazing. Better than expected. So, unless I go to Europe this summer, I can't have an opinion about Axl's voice?? ?:hihi:? Utter fucking bullshit...? ?:rofl: Try listening to the Novarock boot Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 03:15:05 AM No unless you go to Europe you cant have a good opinion about Axl voice in 2006. Now stop this thread. What if I told you I've seen more GnR shows than you'll probably EVER see?? I know more about the band then you think I do. Just because you bought a ticket in Europe doesn't mean shit. His voice is shot. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 03:16:21 AM No, you can't. Especially when your post was centered on one song. Try listening to the Novarock boot Re-read the thread. I said I had listened to many of the boots. And if I can't listen to boots to see how Axl's voice is shot, why are you telling me to listen to see how great he sounds? :confused: Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Death Cube K on July 04, 2006, 03:17:11 AM Wow, you totally got me on that post....GREAT argument POV!!! ?: ok: :hihi:
Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: 33 on July 04, 2006, 03:17:38 AM I just watched this clip on youtube.com... man, Axl's voice is shot.? Its gone, folks.? He can't sing anymore.? I used to love the guy's voice too.? He's not even close.? For those who say "he's back", I'm sorry, you must have been really young back in the 80's (or not even born).? That is not the Axl Rose we all grew up with.? He's not even close.? The reason the record has been stalled repeatedly is because his voice is shot and its giving him lots of trouble.? I'm sorry to say it, but Axl is finished.? I will miss him too, he delivered some mesmorizing songs.? Mate I appreciate peoples opinions but sorry your wrong. I have seen the band 21 times between 1989 and two weeks ago at Download. His voice is not shot to bits at all. It is fantastic to be quite honest. I really done know what gives you this impression. Have you been to any of the shows on this current tour? Because if you are judging it from some web casts then surely you know that is not a true reflection at all! Come on eh your obviously a long times guns fans, lets be positive and not say stuff like "its over" when its clearly not, the fun is just cranking up again! Be happy! Mike Okay POV you say you have seen guns many times! Read my above original post then. I too have seen the band many times and I say that Axl is sounding awesome and so are the band! Try being a little bit more positive! Mike Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Schwarzgold on July 04, 2006, 03:20:00 AM So ... not only all the hardcore fans, but also the media, print as online as well, the casual fans and even the non-fans ... ALL are just using their illusion, and only you and a few others hold the candle of truth?
Well THAT makes perfect sense, I'm switching sides right NOW! :rofl: Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Voodoochild on July 04, 2006, 03:21:34 AM Best thread ever, period. :rofl:
Axl's voice in Better @ Download was just like 2002. :hihi: What a waste of time... If you really had heard all those bootlegs, why did you just heard OTGM and got this lame insight about Axl's voice? Sounds like a big excuse here to piss some other people off... :P Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 03:21:38 AM Okay POV you say you have seen guns many times! Read my above original post then. I too have seen the band many times and I say that Axl is sounding awesome and so are the band! Try being a little bit more positive! Mike I'm being realistic. I've been to over 30 Guns shows in my time, mostly out here on the East Coast. To those of us who went to those shows in the early 90's, we know its not the same Axl. Even the Live Era record, which is digitally mastered (probably by Axl himself), reveals a much weaker and higher pitched voice. Its not my (or the millions of others watching) imagination. You tell me to go to the shows myself. Well, what's a digital master recording worth to you then? Listen to Live Era where Axl re-records over some parts. If the boot can't give me a true representation of how great Axl's voice is, why are all these people linking BOOTS??? :confused: Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: dariano on July 04, 2006, 03:21:49 AM let's see... he is 44 you dumbass POV!
Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: DunkinDave on July 04, 2006, 03:22:31 AM (http://xs103.xs.to/xs103/06272/gain.JPG)
Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 03:22:58 AM let's see... he is 44 you dumbass POV! and this is why his voice is shot? Please clarify. I actually agree. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 03:23:29 AM Brick Wall = DunkinDave :hihi:
Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Gnr_man202 on July 04, 2006, 03:23:40 AM No, you can't. Especially when your post was centered on one song. Try listening to the Novarock boot Re-read the thread.? I said I had listened to many of the boots.? And if I can't listen to boots to see how Axl's voice is shot, why are you telling me to listen to see how great he sounds?? ?:confused: Oh, so you're purposely being bias? Why would you want to listen to a boot where Axl has a bad voice? (which has only been a few this tour) (Oh, and PS, Slash also re-recorded stuff on Live Era, so does Slash suck at guitar now these days? ;) ) Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: dariano on July 04, 2006, 03:24:17 AM Step away from the crack pipe and put the headphones back on, your awesome and over rated Tool cd is being deprived :hihi:
Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: DunkinDave on July 04, 2006, 03:24:39 AM Everyone - just stop replying to this thread, you can't win with this guy.
Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: killingvector on July 04, 2006, 03:25:48 AM No, you can't. Especially when your post was centered on one song. Try listening to the Novarock boot Re-read the thread. I said I had listened to many of the boots. And if I can't listen to boots to see how Axl's voice is shot, why are you telling me to listen to see how great he sounds? :confused: Which boots have you listened to? I want a list and links to these files. The net feed at Rio 6 was definately screwed up. I remember I couldn't even hear Ron's guitar the first third of the show. Axl's voice faded in and out as the level was adjusted. NovaRock is a great boot b/c it is so crisp but there are problems with the loudness of Axls' voice projected onto the bootlegger's tape. Download and Hammersmith were tremendous. Having been to the Hammerstein shows, I can vouch for the lucidity and strength of his vocals. He is definately back at the Illusion era level. His voice in 2002 was muted and safe, as if he hadn't stretched it out or individually lacked confidence. That is no longer the case. Remember though that the quality of Axl's show to show performance always ran hot and cold; he can sound brilliant on NR but caterwall through YCBM. Be wary of individual samples from shows; they may not tell the whole story. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 03:26:45 AM I doubt that you've actually listened ot many boots, because only a few of the shows on the tour, Axl's voice has seemed shot. Oh, I've listened to just about all the Euro boots, but anyway... go on... Quote Oh, so you're purposely being bias? Why would you want to listen to a boot where Axl has a bad voice? (which has only been a few this tour) He has his worser nights, for sure, but all in all, its not 1991 anymore! That's my point and that's why Axl won't succeed with this band! Quote (Oh, and PS, Slash also re-recorded stuff on Live Era, so does Slash suck at guitar now these days? ;) ) No offense, but what the fuck? The point is, Axl did re-record on perfectly mastered digital copies, where we can hear his voice giving way to age. That was what? 8 years ago? Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: dariano on July 04, 2006, 03:26:59 AM Such a crime you know it's true!
Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: killingvector on July 04, 2006, 03:27:38 AM I doubt that you've actually listened ot many boots, because only a few of the shows on the tour, Axl's voice has seemed shot. Oh, I've listened to just about all the Euro boots, but anyway... go on... Which ones, dude? What have you got? I'll wait while you look up the tour dates and attempt to bullshit your way through this thread. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: 33 on July 04, 2006, 03:28:28 AM Okay POV you say you have seen guns many times! Read my above original post then. I too have seen the band many times and I say that Axl is sounding awesome and so are the band! Try being a little bit more positive! Mike I'm being realistic.? I've been to over 30 Guns shows in my time, mostly out here on the East Coast.? To those of us who went to those shows in the early 90's, we know its not the same Axl.? Even the Live Era record, which is digitally mastered (probably by Axl himself), reveals a much weaker and higher pitched voice.? Its not my (or the millions of others watching) imagination. You tell me to go to the shows myself.? Well, what's a digital master recording worth to you then?? Listen to Live Era where Axl re-records over some parts.? If the boot can't give me a true representation of how great Axl's voice is, why are all these people linking BOOTS???? ?:confused: There is obviously no reasoning with you then buddy! You have your thoughts and thats its! But you are very wrong! I tell you what I sat behind Brian May at the Hammersmith gig in June and he said that Axl was sounding better than ever! Now I'm sorry but I will take that as a pretty accurate rating on Axls voice any day of the week over some dude who just because he has been to a lot of guns gigs thinks he knows everything about Axls vocal abilities! Mike Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 03:28:32 AM Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: DunkinDave on July 04, 2006, 03:29:33 AM We're serious - if you say Axl sang better at a concert 15 years ago, cite a specific example. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: killingvector on July 04, 2006, 03:29:39 AM LOL You can't even fake it, huh? Nice try. Now go play in traffic. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: dariano on July 04, 2006, 03:31:03 AM let's see...I first saw Axl in 86 and I will assure...his voice sounds a fuck of a lot better now!
Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: DunkinDave on July 04, 2006, 03:31:37 AM LOL You can't even fake it, huh? Nice try. Now go play in traffic. I was going to suggest he burn in a fire, but that might have prompted him to start a thread saying that fire is overrated. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: jameslofton29 on July 04, 2006, 03:32:40 AM Be wary of individual samples from shows; they may not tell the whole story. I agree. You need to listen to all(well, at least most) of a show to really get a good idea of the show. I was listening to one of these Euro shows, and Axl sounds good on NR, but sucks on Better. I wouldnt go as far as this guy and say his "voice is shot". I just think there is room for improvement considering the fact that he has only performed a few months out of the past 13 years. The one thing that needs ALOT of improvement is Bumblefoot's playing. He just isn't nailing the BH material the way he should be.Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Gnr_man202 on July 04, 2006, 03:33:07 AM Quote Oh, I've listened to just about all the Euro boots, but anyway... go on... Then I don't see how you are arguing that Axl's voice is bad..Quote He has his worser nights, for sure, but all in all, its not 1991 anymore! ?That's my point and that's why Axl won't succeed with this band! If you listened to early '91 bootlegs, Axl sounded like utter shit. Also, he has probaly played about 50 concerts in the past 13 years, cut him some slack.Quote Quote No offense, but what the fuck? ?The point is, Axl did re-record on perfectly mastered digital copies, where we can hear his voice giving way to age. ?That was what? ?8 years ago?Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: DunkinDave on July 04, 2006, 03:33:58 AM The one thing that needs ALOT of improvement is Bumblefoot's playing. He just isn't nailing the BH material the way he should be. Buckethead was a cancer to the band and we should be happy he's gone. I liked his Nightrain solos - that was it. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: jameslofton29 on July 04, 2006, 03:36:43 AM The one thing that needs ALOT of improvement is Bumblefoot's playing. He just isn't nailing the BH material the way he should be. Buckethead was a cancer to the band and we should be happy he's gone. I liked his Nightrain solos - that was it. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: killingvector on July 04, 2006, 03:36:57 AM The one thing that needs ALOT of improvement is Bumblefoot's playing. He just isn't nailing the BH material the way he should be. Buckethead was a cancer to the band and we should be happy he's gone. I liked his Nightrain solos - that was it. We shouldn't go off topic here, but I completely disagree with you. That being said, our little friend hopefully is reading the tour schedule trying to back up his 'all the boots' comment.... Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Six Strings on July 04, 2006, 03:38:05 AM Juses fucking Christ! You are totally not realistic. I am huge, I mean HUGE Guns fan. I listen to GN'R since 1990. I've watched them so many fuckin' times and I really know every piece of puzzle about them. That's fucking why I want so badly the reunion. BUT NOONE CAN CONVINCE ME THAT AXL VOICE IS THE SAME OR THAT AXL VOICE IS BETTER THAN IT WAS. HOWEVER, Axl is alive and stil fuckin' rooooocks. That's why I'm going to his concert in Istambul.
P.S. Piece, I'm at work and my boss is shouting. He's not GN'R fan however... :hihi: Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: DunkinDave on July 04, 2006, 03:38:11 AM The one thing that needs ALOT of improvement is Bumblefoot's playing. He just isn't nailing the BH material the way he should be. Buckethead was a cancer to the band and we should be happy he's gone. I liked his Nightrain solos - that was it. Bumblefoot didn't require a chicken coop in the recording studio. Bumblefoot spoke to fans. Bumblefoot didn't make the band into a joke. Bumblefoot didn't walk out on the band. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 03:38:52 AM That being said, our little friend hopefully is reading the tour schedule trying to back up his 'all the boots' comment.... :drool: Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: jameslofton29 on July 04, 2006, 03:39:34 AM The one thing that needs ALOT of improvement is Bumblefoot's playing. He just isn't nailing the BH material the way he should be. Buckethead was a cancer to the band and we should be happy he's gone. I liked his Nightrain solos - that was it. Bumblefoot didn't require a chicken coop in the recording studio. Bumblefoot spoke to fans. Bumblefoot didn't make the band into a joke. Bumblefoot didn't walk out on the band. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: killingvector on July 04, 2006, 03:40:08 AM Quote Bumblefoot didn't require a chicken coop in the recording studio. Your point here is what? Quote Bumblefoot spoke to fans. Ever waited outside after a Bucket solo show? He does visit with his fans and treats them very well., Quote Bumblefoot didn't make the band into a joke. Subjective Quote Bumblefoot didn't walk out on the band. Neither did Bucket. There was a four year gap between gigs. Bucket moved on to other things. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: DunkinDave on July 04, 2006, 03:41:03 AM The one thing that needs ALOT of improvement is Bumblefoot's playing. He just isn't nailing the BH material the way he should be. Buckethead was a cancer to the band and we should be happy he's gone. I liked his Nightrain solos - that was it. Bumblefoot didn't require a chicken coop in the recording studio. Bumblefoot spoke to fans. Bumblefoot didn't make the band into a joke. Bumblefoot didn't walk out on the band. That's ok - the majority of the world won't read the liner notes anyways when the album comes out. Additional musicians: Buckethead, Gary Nice Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: killingvector on July 04, 2006, 03:41:49 AM That being said, our little friend hopefully is reading the tour schedule trying to back up his 'all the boots' comment.... :drool: I think you've shown everyone here how little research you have done. Best to refrain from posting nonsense or at least channel Dubya by skewing your diatribes with enough fuzzy evidence to make the nonsense convincing. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: DunkinDave on July 04, 2006, 03:44:24 AM Neither did Bucket. There was a four year gap between gigs. Bucket moved on to other things. Buckethead left the band just prior to Rock in Rio IV in 2004, causing Guns N' Roses to cancel their scheduled appearance. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: -Jack- on July 04, 2006, 03:45:38 AM I dont understand why everyone is bashing this guy... its true, Axl's voice isn't really up to par all the time. I think he's improving as the tour comes along.. but he still has work to do...
I don't think its over though. Time will tell... Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 03:45:55 AM I think you've shown everyone here how little research you have done. Best to refrain from posting nonsense or at least channel Dubya by skewing your diatribes with enough fuzzy evidence to make the nonsense convincing. :drool: Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 03:46:50 AM I dont understand why everyone is bashing this guy... I forgot the Golden Rule here, which states: "Axl Rose is God." Sorry, I'll try to do better next time. :crying: Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Voodoochild on July 04, 2006, 03:47:10 AM *Childish*
Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: jameslofton29 on July 04, 2006, 03:52:04 AM That's ok - the majority of the world won't read the liner notes anyways when the album comes out. Your point? Who cares if the whole world skips the liner notes on the album. A million blind men can hear the album, and it still wont change BH's impact on the material.Additional musicians: Buckethead, Gary Nice Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: jameslofton29 on July 04, 2006, 03:54:13 AM Neither did Bucket. There was a four year gap between gigs. Bucket moved on to other things. Buckethead left the band just prior to Rock in Rio IV in 2004, causing Guns N' Roses to cancel their scheduled appearance. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Death Cube K on July 04, 2006, 03:56:44 AM This is like discussing how it's like walking on the moon with some average guy who havent been there but just seen the pictures..
Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Tomorrows on July 04, 2006, 03:58:07 AM Jesus Christ, what a useless thread.
Duke it out in the Dead Horse section ::) Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: killingvector on July 04, 2006, 04:00:24 AM Neither did Bucket. There was a four year gap between gigs. Bucket moved on to other things. Buckethead left the band just prior to Rock in Rio IV in 2004, causing Guns N' Roses to cancel their scheduled appearance. From what Axl said, he had no contact with Bucket since sometime immediately after the 2002 tour, indicating that Bucket had not only not known about Rio 4 but also had made the decision to leave well in advance. If Axl doesn't keep touch with his troops, he risks what ultimately occurred. Once again, this is off topic but I really don't find the topic at hand here very interesting. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: DunkinDave on July 04, 2006, 04:00:36 AM Neither did Bucket. There was a four year gap between gigs. Bucket moved on to other things. Buckethead left the band just prior to Rock in Rio IV in 2004, causing Guns N' Roses to cancel their scheduled appearance. The point is, he walked out on the band. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 04:01:08 AM Neither did Bucket. There was a four year gap between gigs. Bucket moved on to other things. Buckethead left the band just prior to Rock in Rio IV in 2004, causing Guns N' Roses to cancel their scheduled appearance. Both BH's and BF's solos are ruined by Axl's new helium laced voice. I like BH more, but he saw the writing on the wall and cut loose. Can't blame him. He can make some beautiful music and it won't die like Axl's voice has. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: DunkinDave on July 04, 2006, 04:02:30 AM Neither did Bucket. There was a four year gap between gigs. Bucket moved on to other things. Buckethead left the band just prior to Rock in Rio IV in 2004, causing Guns N' Roses to cancel their scheduled appearance. Both BH's and BF's solos are ruined by Axl's new helium laced voice.? I like BH more, but he saw the writing on the wall and cut loose.? Can't blame him.? He can make some beautiful music and it won't die like Axl's voice has. You're no longer part of this discussion - go sit in the corner. Here's the press release from 2004: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=997 Quote Guns N' Roses Not Able to Perform at Rock in Rio Tuesday March 30, 6:00 am ET A Message from W. Axl Rose The band has been put in an untenable position by guitarist Buckethead and his untimely departure. During his tenure with the band Buckethead has been inconsistent and erratic in both his behavior and commitment - despite being under contract - creating uncertainty and confusion and making it virtually impossible to move forward with recording, rehearsals and live plans with confidence. His transient lifestyle has made it impossible for even his closest friends to have nearly any form of communication with him whatsoever. Last time I talked to Bucket, he called to tell me he had bought a bootleg DVD off EBay and how proud he was to be in Guns and how impressed he was with everyone's performance. Then, in February we got word from Brain that Bucket had called him and said he was back in Guns!? Apparently, according to Bucket he had been "Gone" but had turned himself around and was really excited to do Rio-Lisbon and a European tour. Somewhere in the following month things changed once again. According to those who have actually spoken with Buckethead it appears his plans were to secure a recording contract with Sanctuary Records which I encouraged my management to make available to him, quit GN'R and to use his involvement in the upcoming Guns release to immediately promote his individual efforts...Nice guy! There is not a member of this camp that is not hurt, upset and ultimately disappointed by this event, and more to the point - if not this individual, certainly this individual's choices. Regardless of anyone's opinions of me and what I may or may not deserve, clearly the fans, individuals in this band, management, crew and our support group do not deserve this type of treatment. We as a whole, definitely feel that we afforded Bucket every accommodation perhaps so much so that it may be that we or more precisely, I may have done Guns a disservice and unintentionally allowed Guns to be put in this position. On behalf of Guns N' Roses and myself I apologize to the fans who planned to see us at Rock In Rio - Lisbon. The festival and its tradition mean a lot to me personally and I sincerely do not enjoy being robbed by one of our own of the opportunity to be the first artist to play it for the third time. I would also like to express my gratitude to those who chose to embrace Buckethead's role in Guns and support our new line up. We greatly appreciate Bucket's contributions and remain open to "discussions" as there are obviously several issues to resolve. In the meantime rather than dwelling on the negative, Guns will be moving forward and surprisingly (without giving away any details) this unfortunate set of circumstances may have given us the opportunity to take our recording that one extra step further. Regardless we hope to announce a release date within the next few months. Sincerely, W. Axl Rose Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Death Cube K on July 04, 2006, 04:02:50 AM Quote Both BH's and BF's solos are ruined by Axl's new helium laced voice. Dead horse...dead horse...dead horse Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 04:03:19 AM You're no longer part of this discussion - go sit in the corner. :drool: Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: killingvector on July 04, 2006, 04:04:50 AM Neither did Bucket. There was a four year gap between gigs. Bucket moved on to other things. Buckethead left the band just prior to Rock in Rio IV in 2004, causing Guns N' Roses to cancel their scheduled appearance. Both BH's and BF's solos are ruined by Axl's new helium laced voice. I like BH more, but he saw the writing on the wall and cut loose. Can't blame him. He can make some beautiful music and it won't die like Axl's voice has. You're no longer part of this discussion - go sit in the corner. Here's the press release from 2004: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=997 Quote Guns N' Roses Not Able to Perform at Rock in Rio Tuesday March 30, 6:00 am ET A Message from W. Axl Rose The band has been put in an untenable position by guitarist Buckethead and his untimely departure. During his tenure with the band Buckethead has been inconsistent and erratic in both his behavior and commitment - despite being under contract - creating uncertainty and confusion and making it virtually impossible to move forward with recording, rehearsals and live plans with confidence. His transient lifestyle has made it impossible for even his closest friends to have nearly any form of communication with him whatsoever. Last time I talked to Bucket, he called to tell me he had bought a bootleg DVD off EBay and how proud he was to be in Guns and how impressed he was with everyone's performance. Then, in February we got word from Brain that Bucket had called him and said he was back in Guns!? Apparently, according to Bucket he had been "Gone" but had turned himself around and was really excited to do Rio-Lisbon and a European tour. Somewhere in the following month things changed once again. According to those who have actually spoken with Buckethead it appears his plans were to secure a recording contract with Sanctuary Records which I encouraged my management to make available to him, quit GN'R and to use his involvement in the upcoming Guns release to immediately promote his individual efforts...Nice guy! There is not a member of this camp that is not hurt, upset and ultimately disappointed by this event, and more to the point - if not this individual, certainly this individual's choices. Regardless of anyone's opinions of me and what I may or may not deserve, clearly the fans, individuals in this band, management, crew and our support group do not deserve this type of treatment. We as a whole, definitely feel that we afforded Bucket every accommodation perhaps so much so that it may be that we or more precisely, I may have done Guns a disservice and unintentionally allowed Guns to be put in this position. On behalf of Guns N' Roses and myself I apologize to the fans who planned to see us at Rock In Rio - Lisbon. The festival and its tradition mean a lot to me personally and I sincerely do not enjoy being robbed by one of our own of the opportunity to be the first artist to play it for the third time. I would also like to express my gratitude to those who chose to embrace Buckethead's role in Guns and support our new line up. We greatly appreciate Bucket's contributions and remain open to "discussions" as there are obviously several issues to resolve. In the meantime rather than dwelling on the negative, Guns will be moving forward and surprisingly (without giving away any details) this unfortunate set of circumstances may have given us the opportunity to take our recording that one extra step further. Regardless we hope to announce a release date within the next few months. Sincerely, W. Axl Rose Ask yourself this though, if Axl could get Ron on less than two weeks notice for this tour, why was it so difficult to replace bucket back then? Once again, if you don't keep track of your troops, they are reduced by attrition. this is my last response on this issue---it is dead horse and not part of this inane thread. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 04, 2006, 04:06:45 AM Quote Guns will be moving forward and surprisingly (without giving away any details) this unfortunate set of circumstances may have given us the opportunity to take our recording that one extra step further. Regardless we hope to announce a release date within the next few months. This says it all... next few months, eh? Its not coming out, folks. :no: Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: DunkinDave on July 04, 2006, 04:07:31 AM Ask yourself this though, if Axl could get Ron on less than two weeks notice for this tour, why was it so difficult to replace bucket back then? I'm sure Ron Thal knew well ahead of the May rehearsals that he was joining Guns N' Roses and was told to learn the songs. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: killingvector on July 04, 2006, 04:08:37 AM Ask yourself this though, if Axl could get Ron on less than two weeks notice for this tour, why was it so difficult to replace bucket back then? I'm sure Ron Thal knew well ahead of the May rehearsals that he was joining Guns N' Roses and was told to learn the songs. Not according to Ron and Axl. Sorry, i'll zip it now. :P Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: DunkinDave on July 04, 2006, 04:09:56 AM Ask yourself this though, if Axl could get Ron on less than two weeks notice for this tour, why was it so difficult to replace bucket back then? I'm sure Ron Thal knew well ahead of the May rehearsals that he was joining Guns N' Roses and was told to learn the songs. Not according to Ron and Axl. Sorry, i'll zip it now.? :P You're right - Axl did imply during the Trunk interview that Ron joined around rehearsal time. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: IndiannaRose on July 04, 2006, 04:17:56 AM That being said, our little friend hopefully is? reading the tour schedule trying to back up his 'all the boots' comment.... :drool: Hey......where are your ears? Did you loose 'em? You wanna to hear 'Out Ta Get Me'? Huh? Then listen to this: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=862DF1B5356F8CB0 Man, you're just making shit up like a sour child who has just lost his lolipop and is crying to mama for anotha' piece of the candy stick. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: misterID on July 04, 2006, 04:37:59 AM You do realize Looking wants to piss you guys off, right? You gave him exactly what he wanted.
Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Schwarzgold on July 04, 2006, 04:40:14 AM You do realize Looking wants to piss you guys off, right? You gave him exactly what he wanted. Simple. That is because we're nice people. : ok: Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Slipdisc on July 04, 2006, 04:53:27 AM I just watched this clip on youtube.com... man, Axl's voice is shot.? Its gone, folks.? He can't sing anymore.? I used to love the guy's voice too.? He's not even close.? For those who say "he's back", I'm sorry, you must have been really young back in the 80's (or not even born).? That is not the Axl Rose we all grew up with.? He's not even close.? The reason the record has been stalled repeatedly is because his voice is shot and its giving him lots of trouble.? I'm sorry to say it, but Axl is finished.? I will miss him too, he delivered some mesmorizing songs.? Listen as much as you want, I saw them live past sunday and his voice was great. Dozens of people around me saw the band countless times during the UYI-days and practically all of them said how much better Axl (and especially the band) sounded then back then. His voice was incredible. From here you're looking just like all the other negative noobs, we're having a lot here lately. People with 40 posts under their belt of which 30 are spend on diggin' up dead horses. Dead horses who are just as dead as their nostalgia based reasoning is assbackwards. Say hi to Marty McFly and doc Brown, for me, once you get the Delorean's Flux Capacitor charged again and have travelled back to the nineties. Have a safe trip! -PEACE- Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: jameslofton29 on July 04, 2006, 04:55:44 AM You do realize Looking wants to piss you guys off, right? You gave him exactly what he wanted. I aim to please. :hihi: Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on July 04, 2006, 05:16:00 AM I just watched this clip on youtube.com... man, Axl's voice is shot. Its gone, folks. He can't sing anymore. I used to love the guy's voice too. He's not even close. For those who say "he's back", I'm sorry, you must have been really young back in the 80's (or not even born). That is not the Axl Rose we all grew up with. He's not even close. The reason the record has been stalled repeatedly is because his voice is shot and its giving him lots of trouble. I'm sorry to say it, but Axl is finished. I will miss him too, he delivered some mesmorizing songs. i thought people could stay the same as they get older then i read a thing about aging The general deterioration of the body with increasing age. Bitch, we KNOW it's not the same Axl. We know it's not Guns n' Roses. 1986 2006 two different numbers. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: babydolls on July 04, 2006, 05:22:57 AM Both BH's and BF's solos are ruined by Axl's new helium laced voice.? I like BH more, but he saw the writing on the wall and cut loose.? Can't blame him.? He can make some beautiful music and it won't die like Axl's voice has.
Quote I find it hard to connect with BH as a guitarist because of the mask - it is what it is, but I like seeing the passion and feeling on a guitarist's face when they play beautiful music, (eg Slash, Robin, Richard and definately Ron.) It may be a simple comment, but that's how I feel. Sure BH is a good player, but I find him soul-less. And didnt Gilby join Guns post-Izzy with only like a week or two to learn 40 songs for a massive world tour?? if it's the right guy, it comes together. Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: Ignatius on July 04, 2006, 05:23:50 AM This thread is not even dead horse... Some of you need to stop whinning about how great the old days were. This is now, 2006 and not 1988. There are countless of threads already about how Axl sounded great back in the 80's and how he does he sound now. I just don't get it. Why starting a new thread every fucking day about the same old shit? ...and you still wonder why we lock and delete threads? ?::) Title: Re: Out ta Get Me: Rock in Rio 2006 (Its over) Post by: jarmo on July 04, 2006, 06:05:40 AM I just watched this clip on youtube.com... man, Axl's voice is shot.? Its gone, folks.? He can't sing anymore.? I used to love the guy's voice too.? He's not even close.? For those who say "he's back", I'm sorry, you must have been really young back in the 80's (or not even born).? That is not the Axl Rose we all grew up with.? He's not even close.? The reason the record has been stalled repeatedly is because his voice is shot and its giving him lots of trouble.? I'm sorry to say it, but Axl is finished.? I will miss him too, he delivered some mesmorizing songs.? Sorry to have to reply to a locked thread, but the ignorance in that post is just astounding. I definitely was around in the 80s (even though it might be hard to believe when you see me :hihi: ) and people are right, he's back! Now go and listen to your precious bootlegs and remember how great everything was in the 1980s. Let the rest of us enjoy the summer of 2006, the summer when GN'R returned! /jarmo |