Here Today... Gone To Hell!

^Rons own words ...their manageemnt not our management.

Anyone think Ron will be out of GnR's once the tour ends or that he doesnt view this as "his" band?

No I think you misread his meaning.

He meant "their" as in Guns and he is a member of guns.

He did not have to use "our"

But either way he's still in Guns.

Everyone in the band would answer like that, take it as you will.

Actually Ron has said before when someone asked him if he would be on the album or something. He said no, and that he has to see how this tour goes before other people decide his future in the band. Something to that effect.

Sure even if he did class himself as a member, what contribution has he made? About as much as Gilby did! And since the end of the Use Your Illusion tour Gilby has said he never really felt like a member.

But on another note. When it comes to actually making music with the band, how does Axl know that BBF is going to work in THAT way sometime down the line. It seems he was hired to play music that's already been written.

Now of course everyoone's got an opinion, but for ME that doesn't make you a member of a band. Never mind my favourite band in the world.

Now he is in the band... let him stay. It would be pointless to tell him to leave after the tour. I'm still not fan of his guitar playing, I still think a 3rd guitar player is not necessary and that Richard should play more lead, but bbf seems like a nice guy, he is not a weirdo and don't talk through a ridiculous muppet, the fans like him, he sems to have a great time and smile onstage... he doesn't deserve to be "fire" after the Tour. Now he is here, he is here. and that's it.

I like Bumblefoot.  I think he's a great player for the band.  But I think he is just a temporary player, we'll see after CD is released.

a touch pedantic no? he's a member.

he was only in the band a week before the tour started...i can't imagine him leaving, unless he wanted to do his solo stuff at some point.

Ron is a great guitarplayer and his solos are amazing.. I just want to increase the volume on his guitar when they play live.. sometimes you can barely hear him  ???

Keep him, keep him! He's good!

I hope he feels welcome in the band, because he is really nice imo - i dont see no reason why the other members dont like him. Although I haven't seen him hanging with them - i guess he's not a party guy....

i read thatm in 2004 they (gn'r management) offered him to play with the band but then thet withdraw the offer.. anyway during the eddie trunk interview with axl wasn't axl saying like it's the same band as 2002 but BH is replacede with an other guy he wasn't saying that it was BBF but that we knnow now... so i think that he's a full-member of the band and he will be until he even quits or starts arguing and fights with maybe axl or something and if he does that he prolly will be fired.. but i don't think he will..

anyways i sure hope that the band won't fire him or any other of the band.. i love this band and hopes that this is the final line up if you know what i mean : ok:

I think he is just a hired hand...and he looks like Phil Anselmo's brother...........I think he is holding the spot warm until Slash finally comes back which he will at some point...When VR is dead and buried and Slash sees Izzy on good terms with Axl and sees that Axl has his voice back believe me they will reunite...Just like Jagger and Richards did....Just like Billy Idol and Steve Stevens did........Just liek Perry and Tyler did

Yeah, except Axl..

you got too much time on your hands, bro....so do i, actually, since I took time to reply to this :) :)

That's right.

i actually thinks that it's axl that don't want slash back and not slash that don't wanna go back.. i'm sure slash want to be friends with axl again but not axl be friensd with him.. anyway, did perry and tyler really broke areosmith up for a while?.. i always thougt that they have always been the best of friends and playing together.. jagger and richards? wow i didnt knew that one either.. forgotten my homework again apperantly  :hihi:

After Ron's statement about not drinking, drugging, or fucking around on his wife, it's obvious that he doesn't have it in him to be a gunner and he should be fired.

If this is a joke, it's a good one!  : ok:

i actually thinks that it's axl that don't want slash back and not slash that don't wanna go back.. i'm sure slash want to be friends with axl again but not axl be friensd with him.. anyway, did perry and tyler really broke areosmith up for a while?.. i always thougt that they have always been the best of friends and playing together.. jagger and richards? wow i didnt knew that one either.. forgotten my homework again apperantly  :hihi:
yea buddy, happened in the early 80s, i believe perry left because of the other members excessive use of drugs. correct me if im wrong, but im pretty sure thats the story.

All these band members are not "members" of anything in the sense of having an equity stake in the New (or old) GnR partnership.  They are hired hands: paid salary.  This isn't intended to denigrate their contributions at all, but, certainly from a financial standpoint, this is solely the Axl show -- these guys are not in the same financial boat that Slash, Duff and Izzy were in. (i.e., financial partners with Axl, sharing all the revenue from the band)

I lol'd  :hihi:

But, I'd like Ron to stay........

Me, too.  The first show was shaky, but he's proved he can hold his own, in my opinion.

I like him. About time someone had their heads on their shoulders and he has just that.

Regarding Steven Tyler and Joe Perry.  They never really returned to being good friends.  I work in the hotel business and see and hear about a lot of big name bands coming in and out of the hotels I sell or have sold for.   Three years ago, we lost a bid to host Aerosmith when they were in Chicago for a tour.  After we lost the bid, their manager, or should I say Joe Perry's manager contacted us for a suite for Joe.  He didn't stay in the same hotel as the rest of the members of the band & crew.  I got to talking with his manager when he checked in the day of the concert and Joe's manager was like "Joe tries to stay away from the other guys.  Joe doesn't get along well with Steven or Tom and likes to have his space."  It was wierd hearing that because Joe and Steven always appear to be close during interviews and on stage.  It is clearly a business situation there- kind of like at work where you have to tolerate co-workers you hate for the greater good of making money.  That's exactly what they are doing. 

Guns N' Roses could have went that route because Axl doesn't appear to be close with the guys in the current line-up anyway.  He might as well have asked Slash back into the band, learned to tolerate them, and then stay away from them too except when it is time to take the stage.  He was already doing that in 1993-94, but the other members weren't old enough to deal with it then.  Now they have families and real adult lives that don't just involve getting wasted and rock-n-roll.  They would probably appreciate Axl's intent on keeping things business. 

I do think its strange he was only given a few songs to listen to, and they were on a laptop computer, in an office at the record label's building.

Why not give him a CD of his own? Let him go to the studio? I don't know......

Yeah, that's true.. I hated him at first... Lisbon changed everything.

Interesting to hear about Perry's relationship with the band. ?I never knew that. ?


Yes - I think you're right. ?Joe Perry left late 1970s-early 1980s, and so did Aerosmith's other guitar player, Brad Whitford. ?They each did their own solo stuff for several years. ?(Regarding drugs, I think both Tyler and Perry were still heroin users at the time). ?Perry went on to record 3 albums with his own band, "The Joe Perry Project." ?Meanwhile, Aerosmith continued with two new players, put out Rock in a Hard Place around 1982, and then reunited around '84 I think (correct me if I'm wrong). ?From what I remember reading, their reunion was pretty amazing - Perry and Whitford attended an Aeromsith concert and walked up on stage. ?From that point on, they stayed together. ?

Back on topic...I hope that BBF is here to stay. ?I think he's definitely an asset to the band, and I really like how approachable he seems to be. ?I'd love to meet him sometime. ? : ok: ? ?However, I do think it's strange that he was given such short notice to prepare before the tour started. ?I guess for confidentiality reasons?

I like him but i dont think he will be around too long. too many guys come and go.

I like him. I met him after his show in New York and he was So nice!! :love: I don't care what he does he will be awesome!!! :peace: