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Title: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: icpillusions on June 26, 2006, 04:55:42 PM
Titled: Better Off in the 80s. Should these 80s icons keep rockin? or should they have quit while they were ahead?

74% said Have quit after the 80s
26% Keep Rockin

Don't know if the direct link will work but here it is:
http://music.aol.com/photo-galleries/better-off-80s-guns-n-roses

Didn't see this posted..


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: Verse Chorus Verse on June 26, 2006, 04:57:28 PM
Wow, why'd they use that pasty-faced picture? There are so many "better" ones.


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: Origen on June 26, 2006, 04:57:48 PM
Interesting to see that nearly 3/4 of the general public (in this poll anyway) think that 80s icon should have stopped/stayed in the 80s. Of course that poll figure will change now since it's been posted here and it's ovious which way it's going to sway.


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: Verse Chorus Verse on June 26, 2006, 05:03:28 PM
And anyway, he never intended to have CD be a come back, he's just took so long it's turned into one.


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: The Dog on June 26, 2006, 05:11:39 PM
Bon Jovi had the exact same numbers flip flopped (74% said to keep on rocking). 


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on June 26, 2006, 05:13:15 PM
Gnr were bigger in the 90s than the 80s


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: IndiannaRose on June 26, 2006, 05:17:07 PM
Gnr were bigger in the 90s than the 80s
It's weird that some people seem to forget that...


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: that girl on June 26, 2006, 05:19:18 PM

They also think Ozzy and Crue should have quit too.
Nah, it's great to have those guys still out there!


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: The Dog on June 26, 2006, 05:19:44 PM
Gnr were bigger in the 90s than the 80s

I don't think its meant to be taken so literally.  The point of the poll is for artists with two very distinct periods of their careers, was the first part their best and should they have stopped there, or are they still rocking out in the latter part of their careers.


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: HungerForChaos on June 26, 2006, 05:24:34 PM
Interesting to see that nearly 3/4 of the general public (in this poll anyway) think that 80s icon should have stopped/stayed in the 80s. Of course that poll figure will change now since it's been posted here and it's ovious which way it's going to sway.

Well, obviously... Lots of people are going to think that without a new album out... Just wait till CD comes out and it's likely people will change their mind.... Most people think he should quit instead of keep on rocking, because he's just playing the same old stuff over and over again.


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: nycangel on June 26, 2006, 05:28:40 PM
i voted for him to keep on rocking of course, and to be honest as much as i believe in gnr, theres not a lot of people outside of the gnr boards that support them like we do


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: RichardNixon on June 26, 2006, 05:33:40 PM
Titled: Better Off in the 80s. Should these 80s icons keep rockin? or should they have quit while they were ahead?

74% said Have quit after the 80s
26% Keep Rockin

Don't know if the direct link will work but here it is:
http://music.aol.com/photo-galleries/better-off-80s-guns-n-roses

Didn't see this posted..

And the numbers are opposite for Bon Jovi...so that tells us something about the taste of the voters!


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: nycangel on June 26, 2006, 05:36:58 PM
i cannnot stand bon jovi


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on June 26, 2006, 07:08:31 PM
I just voted...now 73% to 27%...let's go folks.  ;)

Obviously, the results so far are no surprise, and I'm actually surprised it's as high as 27% with no new material in freaking ages.  Once folks hear the new shit, they'll poop their pants.  It's that good.   :yes:


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: BLS-Pride on June 26, 2006, 07:09:24 PM
We dont need better in " " cause well I think we can all tell the difference.

Voted.


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: pebbles on June 26, 2006, 07:14:36 PM
fuck bonjovi,they suck.  imo. :yes: axl is so hot right now, i know his income doesnt agree with that poll.


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: masterdan on June 26, 2006, 07:31:20 PM
Bon Jovi had the exact same numbers flip flopped (74% said to keep on rocking).?

The only reason Bon Jovi got those numbers is because all the 40 yr. old moms and 14 yr. girls think he's the hot shit...  :smoking:


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: nesquick on June 26, 2006, 07:39:06 PM
GNR and Axl were much more popular in the... 90's. I don't understand this "GNR = 80's" thing.


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: Bill 213 on June 26, 2006, 07:45:41 PM
GNR and Axl were much more popular in the... 90's. I don't understand this "GNR = 80's" thing.


Yeah basically until about March of 88 they still hadn't became huge yet, but that's when it took off. Then the released Lies and basically that was it....very very very little touring in 89.  So you can basically say they were a mainstream band for a year and a half in the 80s.


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: Naupis on June 26, 2006, 08:27:36 PM
The album that defined the band was released in 87, so they will forever and always be thought of as an 80's band even if they had their most commercial success in the 90's. If you think about it, of their 6 year existance, half were in the 80's, so it is not out of line to think of them as an 80's band.


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: mikegiuliana on June 27, 2006, 09:16:25 AM
Shit to some he never existed in the 90's..

What a contrast in pics


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: oldgunsfan on June 27, 2006, 09:41:49 AM
The album that defined the band was released in 87, so they will forever and always be thought of as an 80's band even if they had their most commercial success in the 90's. If you think about it, of their 6 year existance, half were in the 80's, so it is not out of line to think of them as an 80's band.

Not to be a nit picker but since AFD and Lies outsold the Illusion albums worldwide, wouldn't that mean they had greater commercial success.....

They had a much bigger world tour in the early 90s but alot of the success and hype in the early 90s was due to the success of AFD and Lies


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: oldgunsfan on June 27, 2006, 09:43:55 AM
GNR and Axl were much more popular in the... 90's. I don't understand this "GNR = 80's" thing.


actually, they were more poular during the very late 80s;

after the Illusions tour they weren't really heard from again heh?

exceptht SI and OMG :-[


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: mikegiuliana on June 27, 2006, 09:45:22 AM
many times gnr has been seen as a one album band, afd ins the only album that really gets any praise in the usa

it's like gnr was afd wwtj scom pc then nr then over..


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: IndiannaRose on June 27, 2006, 01:27:05 PM
The album that defined the band was released in 87, so they will forever and always be thought of as an 80's band even if they had their most commercial success in the 90's. If you think about it, of their 6 year existance, half were in the 80's, so it is not out of line to think of them as an 80's band.

Not to be a nit picker but since AFD and Lies outsold the Illusion albums worldwide, wouldn't that mean they had greater commercial success.....

They had a much bigger world tour in the early 90s but alot of the success and hype in the early 90s was due to the success of AFD and Lies
They sold more records in the 90s....period. You know, it's not like Appetite and Lies stopped selling after 1989. The Illusion tour and records is what further propelled GN'R into a massive international band. Appetite may have given GN'R the title of 'biggest band in America', but it was the Illusion records that gave them the title of 'biggest band in the world'.

They didn't really become a worldwide phenomenon until the release of the Illusions, which further pushed sales of their previous records (Appetite & Lies). In most European countries, the Illusions' singles and videos were far more popular than those of Appetite. Now in 2006, 2 years after the release of the extremely succesful 'Greatest Hits' a more open approach has been taken to further re-open Guns' past catalogue.

Although, yes, the hype of the Illusion records was created by the previous success Appetite & Lies, but it was the success of the Illusions, which pushed Appetite and Lies unto other major demographics. It was a mutual, commercial relationship that these records pertained...



Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: neon2002 on June 27, 2006, 01:32:08 PM
Titled: Better Off in the 80s. Should these 80s icons keep rockin? or should they have quit while they were ahead?

74% said Have quit after the 80s
26% Keep Rockin

Don't know if the direct link will work but here it is:
http://music.aol.com/photo-galleries/better-off-80s-guns-n-roses

Didn't see this posted..

73% to 27% now...


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: oldgunsfan on June 27, 2006, 02:10:05 PM
The album that defined the band was released in 87, so they will forever and always be thought of as an 80's band even if they had their most commercial success in the 90's. If you think about it, of their 6 year existance, half were in the 80's, so it is not out of line to think of them as an 80's band.

Not to be a nit picker but since AFD and Lies outsold the Illusion albums worldwide, wouldn't that mean they had greater commercial success.....

They had a much bigger world tour in the early 90s but alot of the success and hype in the early 90s was due to the success of AFD and Lies
They sold more records in the 90s....period. You know, it's not like Appetite and Lies stopped selling after 1989. The Illusion tour and records is what further propelled GN'R into a massive international band. Appetite may have given GN'R the title of 'biggest band in America', but it was the Illusion records that gave them the title of 'biggest band in the world'.

They didn't really become a worldwide phenomenon until the release of the Illusions, which further pushed sales of their previous records (Appetite & Lies). In most European countries, the Illusions' singles and videos were far more popular than those of Appetite. Now in 2006, 2 years after the release of the extremely succesful 'Greatest Hits' a more open approach has been taken to further re-open Guns' past catalogue.

Although, yes, the hype of the Illusion records was created by the previous success Appetite & Lies, but it was the success of the Illusions, which pushed Appetite and Lies unto other major demographics. It was a mutual, commercial relationship that these records pertained...



I guess you had to be a teenager when AFD and Lies came out to really understand just how much bigger they were when they first came out as opposed to the UYI era.......

By the time the Illusion albums came out GnR were starting to wear out there welcome


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: IndiannaRose on June 27, 2006, 02:13:39 PM
The album that defined the band was released in 87, so they will forever and always be thought of as an 80's band even if they had their most commercial success in the 90's. If you think about it, of their 6 year existance, half were in the 80's, so it is not out of line to think of them as an 80's band.

Not to be a nit picker but since AFD and Lies outsold the Illusion albums worldwide, wouldn't that mean they had greater commercial success.....

They had a much bigger world tour in the early 90s but alot of the success and hype in the early 90s was due to the success of AFD and Lies
They sold more records in the 90s....period. You know, it's not like Appetite and Lies stopped selling after 1989. The Illusion tour and records is what further propelled GN'R into a massive international band. Appetite may have given GN'R the title of 'biggest band in America', but it was the Illusion records that gave them the title of 'biggest band in the world'.

They didn't really become a worldwide phenomenon until the release of the Illusions, which further pushed sales of their previous records (Appetite & Lies). In most European countries, the Illusions' singles and videos were far more popular than those of Appetite. Now in 2006, 2 years after the release of the extremely succesful 'Greatest Hits' a more open approach has been taken to further re-open Guns' past catalogue.

Although, yes, the hype of the Illusion records was created by the previous success Appetite & Lies, but it was the success of the Illusions, which pushed Appetite and Lies unto other major demographics. It was a mutual, commercial relationship that these records pertained...



I guess you had to be a teenager when AFD and Lies came out to really understand just how much bigger they were when they first came out as opposed to the UYI era.......

By the time the Illusion albums came out GnR were starting to wear out there welcome
Yes, in the United States definately. Although, the situation was nothing like this in continents like Europe & S.America. For these regions the Illusion albums were more of a 'welcome' to the new & old catalogue of the band (at that point in time).


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: tomass74 on June 27, 2006, 02:29:37 PM
I would have to say that they were alot bigger in the 80's in the LIES/APPETITE Era.. They were gigantic and everyone liked them.. The illsusions is when they started getting cartoonish and people started losing respect for Axl...


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: IndiannaRose on June 27, 2006, 02:30:22 PM
I would have to say that they were alot bigger in the 80's in the LIES/APPETITE Era.. They were gigantic and everyone liked them.. The illsusions is when they started getting cartoonish and people started losing respect for Axl...
Ok, thanx for deciding to not read up on anything posted in this thread. ::) For fuck's sake, they were a mainstream rock band in the 80s for barely 1.5 years. Much of their material from the 80s began to ultimately become more successful in the 90s alongside their 90s material.


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: The Dog on June 27, 2006, 02:32:58 PM
I would have to say that they were alot bigger in the 80's in the LIES/APPETITE Era.. They were gigantic and everyone liked them.. The illsusions is when they started getting cartoonish and people started losing respect for Axl...

Between 88 and 92 it was all about GNR, like I said in a previous post, I don't think the poll is meant to be taken literally and you can only focus on the exact moments between 1980 and 1989.  Whether they should or not, GNR often gets lumped in with the "hair metal" bands like poison, the crue etc... even though we all know they were really in a category all of their own.


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: Bostonrose on June 27, 2006, 05:43:13 PM
doesn't it look like they are two completly different people?

Wow, how time changes everything


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: Lord Kayoss on June 27, 2006, 07:02:41 PM
"...or should they have quit while they were ahead?"

Going by that philosophy while remembering that there hasn't been an actual studio release of original material since 1991, Axl did quit while he was ahead.  Way ahead.  He got up and walked out on rock n' roll while he was a household name and GN'R were the biggest band in the world. 


"Guns N' Roses were rock gods in the '80s, with 'Appetite for Destruction' selling over 30 million copies worldwide. Even without a new CD in 14 years, Axl Rose is still selling out stadiums worldwide with an entirely new GN'R."

There's the answer to their little poll question.


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: oldgunsfan on June 29, 2006, 08:46:23 PM
I would have to say that they were alot bigger in the 80's in the LIES/APPETITE Era.. They were gigantic and everyone liked them.. The illsusions is when they started getting cartoonish and people started losing respect for Axl...
Ok, thanx for deciding to not read up on anything posted in this thread. ::) For fuck's sake, they were a mainstream rock band in the 80s for barely 1.5 years. Much of their material from the 80s began to ultimately become more successful in the 90s alongside their 90s material.

It really would help if you were alive during the period of time you are trying to base an argument on.....in the states (USA), as I and others have stated, Guns were losing the respect of the casual fan, media, etc for their eradic and unpredictable behavior........but being born in 1990, it would be difficult to be aware of it ;)


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: IndiannaRose on June 29, 2006, 11:56:23 PM
I would have to say that they were alot bigger in the 80's in the LIES/APPETITE Era.. They were gigantic and everyone liked them.. The illsusions is when they started getting cartoonish and people started losing respect for Axl...
Ok, thanx for deciding to not read up on anything posted in this thread. ::) For fuck's sake, they were a mainstream rock band in the 80s for barely 1.5 years. Much of their material from the 80s began to ultimately become more successful in the 90s alongside their 90s material.

It really would help if you were alive during the period of time you are trying to base an argument on.....in the states (USA), as I and others have stated, Guns were losing the respect of the casual fan, media, etc for their eradic and unpredictable behavior........but being born in 1990, it would be difficult to be aware of it ;)
I was born in 1989 dude (heh, like it makes a difference :hihi:), and I already have stated the whole 'GN'R losing American respect in the 90s thing':

Yes, in the United States definately. Although, the situation was nothing like this in continents like Europe & S.America. For these regions the Illusion albums were more of a 'welcome' to the new & old catalogue of the band (at that point in time).

^This is my response to a post made a few posts above concerning the same issue.^ I've already addressed the topic...


Title: Re: AOL Poll that includes Axl.
Post by: oldgunsfan on June 30, 2006, 08:10:10 AM
Ok, fair point ;D