Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Thank you Lord!! The Tennis has started.  We are saved from endless hours of footie.  Yesssssssss...........

I hope a new champion enough of Federer  :-\ and in woman I want hingis to reign again  :peace:

Yeah, gets boring when the same ones win all the time.  I'm hoping for two new champs this year.  Either way it's gonna make a great change from hearing about the footie.  We are not all fanatics!

I can only watch women's tennis, something so sexy about women's tennis, just like women's college volley ball.. Ekjoy folks

the comoom denominator being women, mike?

Nothing bores me more than Wimbledon!

And what do people make of the whole womens pay dispute?

Personally I think it's bollocks, when women start playing 5 sets then they can have equal pay as far as I' concerned

Agassi is going to take the title one more time!! 

I love watching Wimbledon and usually get into it every year, even though the time difference is a killer and most matches start at 11pm here. The inevitable rain delays are really freaking annoying though.

yes anywhere a hot woman is playing wearing revealing clothes I can watch that sport, then add grunting :love:

I'd love to see a Sharapova - Hingis final

Usually if there is an ugly woman like a Davenport-Clijsters final I won't even bother watching

my rule of thumb is root for the hotter of the two women


as for the men, good luck beating Federer on grass.....the guy comes up with utterly ridiculous winners on grass it's almost not fair

yeah man that would be nice,... To bad anna isn't around to play maria, i'd be glued to the tv :hihi:

I like hingis too, I use to watch her, yeah davenport is ugs


A nice sharipova vs serena would be nice too, love that junk

Sharapova vs Serena would be difficult this year since Serena's not playing ;D

That Czech chick Nicole Vladisova (Sp??) isn't too bad either.....Her vs Sharapova wouldn't be a bad final :hihi:

Two long legged blondes that love to grunt :hihi: in short skirts ;D

I think a Anna vs Maria final would be the highest rated sports event in TV history :hihi:

even more so than the Superbowl :rofl:

Anyone rememeber Jelena Dokic? what the hell happened to her? I remember a few years back she left behind hingis in 1st round and a few months ago she was in some fight with her father or something  :-\

Apparently her father was a bullying tyrant and tried to control her.  It seems he's not keen on her dumping him as her management.  I don't know if she is playing this year.

BTW it's not fair, all the guys playing this year are dead ugly.  What happened to all the hot male player huh......

im thinking lets have 5 sets for women, lots of sweat...itll be like a wet t shirt competition ;D

wet t shirt and super short skirts..

You stuck in rafter era?  :hihi:

There is no eye candy for the girls playing this year.  The boys definitely have the better deal.  It's depressing, I havent got a favourite to win this year.  I reckon I'll go for Agassi.  At least he's got a cute ass!

Glad Henman lost, little ponse

watching the ESPN wimbledon show Henman got crucified by this woman from the British Press for putting up such a meager effort against Federer....not for nothing but Federer can make the best players look bad

yea but henman is shit and put up no fight

I dont know what's with the british they are supposed to be great in grass but i dont know why the british havent got one good tennis player in the last few years  :-\

That's so true, embarrassing isn't it.  We'll have to see how Murray gets on.  Mind you the womens tennis is at least interesting this year.

He hust beat Agassi at Quens club few weeks ago; Fedderer is playing a different game on grass than anyone....the only person to beat him this year is Nadal and that's on clay, where Nadal hasn't lost in 60 matches

Some of the shots that guy comes up with just shouldn't be possible to make ???

Murray is Scottish, not British ...and after the anti-Scottish bile and the comments about the Dunblane massacre posted on his blog, even more so

He plays tomorrow, come on Andy!!!

Because tennis is a middle class sport here, only the financially well-off have access to facilities.
I loved tennis as a kid but had to play on concrete, broken glass and discarded needles. That was what our tennis courts looked like, not very inspiring, and you give up interest. Grass courts? Never seen one in my life.

Dont mean to sound too bitter here but, middleclass and lower upper class folk dont make champions, they just don't have that killer competitive instinct that poor kids have in abundance.

Murray through in straight sets against Roddick...

Aye, here here.

The closest that I could ever get to playing tennis properly was sharing the courts during lunch break at school... So there were about seven different matches being played simultaneously over one net. Then there was always climbing over the fence of the private tennis court...

Football can be played anywhere with any number of people, and it isn't too difficult for youngsters to excell. Tennis is all far too exclusive....

So when Henman was good he was just British but when it's Murray he's Scottish not British?

Didn''t we have this conversation a while back?...lol

Murray likes to be known as Scottish and that is good enough for me

I've never supported Henman, English is British anyway, most people outside Britain couldn't tell the difference while anyone in Britain knows better...when people think of Britain they dont think of Scotland or Ireland or Wales, we have our own identities (well apart from Wales :hihi:)..Britain = stiff upper lip whatto chocks away, upper class twats, racism, skinheads, the queen whatever and that's the same as the English flag... blame the media...the BBC after happily promoting the England football team as English not British saturating the channels with England this and England that over about 4 weeks, rarely did i hear the word Britain said...and now the BBC suddenly refers to Murray as British or "of the Nation" rather than Scottish while hearing complaints of Murray wearing an armband with a saltire print is inflammatory to English people ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/5128028.stm and comments on several messages boards )...what fuckwits...and you complain too!...i think you are smarter than that...

btw last article on the BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/5137408.stm
4 "england"s, 1 "briton", no "scottish"

... Aye.

It's like when the Americans go "he speaks with a British accent''.......... Chances are they probably aren't refering to a good ol' strong Welsh accent.

Yea we have had this arguement before, I would have gone into more detail if I wanted a full on arguement, it just got to me yesterday with Murray being called Scottish and Henman British, it should be one rule for everyone, either we're all British or we seperate us all.

And about the England football team, if Scotland had made it they'd be all the news aswell, but sadly you're not  :P

Thing is, in Scotland we get English BBC sports coverage. So your team would be plastered all over our screens even if Scotland made the World Cup.

And to be fair yours would be all over ours if you made it, cos it's the same shows all across Britain...

Scottish football gets brushed over in BBC shows like nobodies business.

heyyy im just saying that welsh is probably the weakest of the 3 Celtic nations in the UK...thats all...boyo :P


i agree, separation is good for me...i thought you were pro english? shouldnt that mean you should be complaining about the person who said British and not the one that said Scottish?...:P

on the BBC news today, "Britons" are waking up from a miserable day of football (or words to that effect)...umm..noo..."we" are overjoyed


exactly, im not a celtic or rangers fan but they get a gate of 45 or 50+ thousand every week, and are probably in the top 5 supported teams in the UK...and are rarely mentioned in UK broadcasts while English teams of the same gate gets lots of air time...while cricket which has gates of a few thousand gets 3-5 minute slots on the news...do you think thats fair? do you think we are treated equally?...ummm...nowhere near it

OMG Murray v Roddick, was that an excellent match or what!  I was screaming and when Murray took the second set I managed to spray everyone with the chewed up burger I was munching at the time.  But, what a fantastic result. 

Haha, Murray lost, good, can't stand the little twat

Now I'm depressed !  I had such hopes for Murray, dashed again.  Has anyone seen that female (allegedly) player Maeremo.  I swear that's a man in drag.  There is nothing female about her.  Nothing.

Like the Williams sisters...

LI has some great legs, loved the short shorts

Well let's just hope Sharapova wins and Hennin_Hardene wins so we don't have to watch Clisters/Maueresomo in the final....boy that would suck having to watch those 2 play :hihi:

hotties have to make the finals, only way I can tune in... :smoking:

Nadal is playing Nieminem now for a place in the semis...

I can't believe what this kid has already accomplished being so young ?:o

unfortunately, it's gonna be she-man vs henin-hardene :'(

hopefully henine-hardene will win, as she is the better looking of the two, which isn't saying much :hihi:

Oh God, Sharapova's just? :drool:? :drool:? :drool:? :drool:? :drool:? :drool:? :drool:!

Unfortunately, about to go down 3-5 in the 1st set.? :(? I don't want to see Sharapova going down...unless it's on me.? ;D

Wait!? She just fought back to deuce after being down love-40.?

Women's tennis is where it's at.? The men's game sucks.? The equipment got the game out of hand.? Some people think the women deserve as much money as the men...I disagree...they deserve more.? It's just a better product.? ?: ok:

god I'd love to see a sharapova/kournikova singles grunt match :drool:

it would be almost pornagraphic :hihi:

hahahah, classic!  I'd give Sharapova the edge.  I think she blows Anna away. 
Now why oh why can't the golfer Natlaie Gulbis (pronounced "gulp this") grunt like that with her golf swing?   :hihi:

Oh well, you're right...looks like men in the ladies' finals this year.  :crying:

I guess you are saying that cause the americans suck at the moment...

The men's game couldn't be in better shape. The most amazing tennis rivalry in the history of the sport is in the making. Federer and Nadal have played against each other in 4 finals this year and it looks like they will play again in Wimbledon in two days. Both players won 10 tournaments each last year and 5 a piece this year so far...

Nadal is as charmismatic as Andre was 10 years ago (not too mention, Nadal kicked Andre's ass in this Wimbledon 3rd round) everybody in the game is talking about him and what he can achieve. But I guess you americans don't seem to value that since, that's right, he's not american.

Go Roddick, go  ::)

Ohh if we can bring back a semifinal between Hingis and Kournikova  :drool:
The good old days.

Agreed with Ignatius I think Nadal Vs Federer is gonna be the next classic in tennis  ;D

I want to see Anna wrestle Sharipova while LI refs and Hingis licks her box.. :beer:

for that to happen, i think Federer should beat Nadal every so ofter :hihi:
but so fart, it's a bit one sided in Nadal's favor

--->> and is good as Federer is and how amateurish he makes everyone else on tour looks, to say it's one sided in Nadals favor is pretty unfuckingbelievable :o

Ignatius, Huh?  When did I ever come off as some typical jack-ass "America rules!" wacko???  If you were joking that's cool, but if not, please apologize.  My problem with men's tennis isn't the nationality of the players.  My problem is with 150 mile per hour serves and 3 to 4 shot volleys in addition to too many aces.  Maybe it's gotten better in the past few years, but I lost interest for awhile with guys like Sampras and Ivanisevic (although Goran's lack of discipline was fun to watch at times) slamming aces left and right. 

I liked Agassi because he had a great return of serve.  I liked Becker because he played a similar style to my game.  I loved McEnroe because he wore his heart on his sleeve and I just loved his net play...such great touch.  (btw, if ever there was a tennis player who embodied Axl Rose's personality, it was McEnroe) Lendl was fun to root against because he was so robotic, and his whiny complaints were hilarious.  Borg is one of the greats of all-time, brilliant, although a little b4 my time, I've seen some tape.

Just because I'm American doesn't mean I only love Americans.  I don't enjoy watching the Williams sisters for instance.  Although I respect their talent, I find the excessive power to be a bit too much.  Roddick and his power serve doesn't do anything for me either.

My basic point is that the tennis players need a check on the technology of their equipment.  Some would say the same about professional golf, but the difference there is that the golf associations can always make the courses more difficult, tennis can't.  A tennis court is a tennis court.  I want longer rallies.  I want true tests of endurance on the court.  I want all Americans in the Finals...haha just kidding.  ;)

ps:yes, I am interested in watching Federer-Nadal.  McEnroe's a kick-ass commentator as well.   : ok: 

Is my idea or McEnroe came to Quito a few weeks ago to participate in a tournament with Andres Gomez?

well the she-man won :-\

the men's final should be interesting, if not a really good match

how the fuck did that 'woman' win?

she just played alot better than henin-hardene :o ???

yea but she shouldn't be playing in the womens game, surely someone needs tyo check for a cock...

You'd think that'd be routine wouldn't you?

God tennis is boring, I hate it when over here all the little Englanders get 'excited' about tennis then forget it exists for the other 11 months? :rant:

Me, I try and forget it exists for 12 months of the year but we get Wimbeldon shoved down our throats for 2 weeks, still nearlly finished now!  ;D

Great match! The first set was very dissapointing, but Nadal then fought back and got his chances. Congrats to Federer...in a way, I'm happy that he won otherwise he would have not recovered from this defeat.



Well, by saying the men game sucks you put yourself in that position.? :P

Thing is, in my experience, americans lose interest in anything they are not good at.? Tennis is not something the americans rule in at the moment, so It'd be safe to assume you were just like any other american.

Don't get me wrong, I lived in the States four years so I have a slight idea of what I'm talking about. Maybe you are not like that, but pretty much 99% of the americans I've met, follow the same pattern.



Tennis these days is far away from that. 10 years ago tennis was the most boring game to watch cause it was rules by the heavy servers (with the exception of Andre Agassi); Sampras, Ivanisevic, Krajicek,...there wasn't even a serve / volley type of game. It was more a serve and point, serve and miss. But today, things have changed. There're only a few players who still serve and volley (Henman, Stepanek, Ancic, Bjorkman...) but the game now relies on the heavy groundstrokers; Nadal, Federer, Nalbandian, Ljbicic, Baghdatis... There's not much serve and volley anymore even at Wimbledon (if you watched yesterday's final you'll agree with me).


Becker was my favorite. Probably the most talented player ever in the history of the game. It was more than a big server, he was simply amazing..the way he hit that flat backhand...but he had some mental issues, didn't have any control of his emotions...in a way, he was much more matured than anybody at his age. He just had to deal with all the stress of being the wimbledon champ at 17.


Yes, you are right. As I mentioned earlier, I assumed you were just like 99% of the americans, but as it turns out, you aren't. ;)


The rallies are longer.- You'll see one-two months when the US open series tournaments start.

Predictable mens result.  At least Nadal gave us something to look at.  Did you see the bod on that boy yummmm

I thought it was a good final; Nadal proved alot and gave Federer a bit of a scare; at least Federer won a match against the guy so there can be a bit of a rivalry; but it's hard to call something a rivaly when one person wins all the time like Nadal had done; the US OPEN should be interesting ;D

And to those who say the men's game sucks and it's just big serves and no rallies; you should watch it more often before you make generalizations like that.....because during this final there were very few quick points and alot of excellent rallies.....Federer's a fucking magician with some of the shots that guy pulls out of his ass....

I enjoy the women's game better just because.....there woman ;D

2006 The year a man won both the mens and womens titles.  A first!!!

Ignatius,
  Thanks for the kind words and explanation.  There are almost 300 million Americans.  Not all of us are flag-waving idiots.  :hihi:  You summed it up well when you mentioned the death of the serve and volley player.  Around ten years ago was the age of the ace or 2 shot rally...very boring indeed...I may have given up on the sport too soon.  I watched Nadal and Federer and ground stroke rallies are cool...but man I guess I'm just a classic tennis fan.  I'd like to see more net action.  These 2 guys though, do provide a nice rivalry.   : ok:  I'd definitely watch these 2 guys play again.  Also, I'm probably biased because I play a serve and volley style myself...oh well.  :beer:

Today's tennis is different because they' ve changed the balls... In Wimbledon or at indoor tournaments, the balls are heavier so they don't go so fast anymore. This is helping players like Nadal or Nalbandian (who reached Wimbledon's final in 2002). Several players have stated that it is suicidal to make serve and volley with the new balls.
On the other hand, clay tournaments are now played with lighter/faster balls which are favoring Federer's good results on that surface.

Is this true?  I'm not doubting you Slashead...I'm just wondering if there's confirmation out there.  :peace:

Here is a link about those new tennis balls : http://tennis.about.com/od/racquetsballsstringing/a/newballstandard.htm

The ITF changes the ball standards every year to favor competition. I've been hearing about these changes forever, but I don't think it's has any impact on the game really. On clay you still have a certain player profile of player that does well; Nadal, Moya, Ferrero, Robredo, Coria, Gaudio...while on grass, things have changed cause the players have changed. There's not much of a serve and volley style anymore...taking a look at Wimbledon past champs, there's Federer, Hewitt, finalists Roddick and Nabaldian...all these players play their best in hard courts surfaces anyway,? but there are not serve and volley type of players, they more of heavy groundstrokes hitters...

I think the surface of the court has a lot more to do with the style of play than the tennis ball; clay courts are a lot slower surface, the ball bounces higherand the rallies last longer as players have more time to get to balls; grass is the fastest surface, the balls stay lower, the rallies are quicker because groundstrokes are flatter and don't bounce up as high; and hard courts are closer to grass than clay....

i think Nadal's much better on clay than Federer because he plays on the surface about 75% of the time....

Of course, changes in tennis are not only because of new balls... That's only a factor among others. Rackets have changed too, among other things.
But it is a fact that many players said that serve and volley style is not effective anymore at Wimbledon, especially on second serve. I remember an interview with Wayne Ferreira a couple of years ago. He complained that a player like Magnus Gustafsson (a clay specialist) had no problems anymore to return his serve because of the slower balls.

It may not be effective according to the players because they don't have a big serve and they can't volley :hihi:

Sampras was a classic serve and volley player, and it was scuh an in-effective technique, he won 7 Wimbledon's :rofl: and 14 majors, which is a record last I checked

Not for anything but the people you mentioned are clay court specialists that never did anything at Wimbledon ;)

Sampras won 7 Wimbledon's (the last one in 2001) with the old balls which were faster. I'm not saying that Sampras wouldn't win with these slower balls : I'm just saying that it would be more difficult for him to play the same way. A player like Wayne Ferreira wasn't a clay specialist at all : he was a grass specialist who couldn't play serve and volley as he used to do when they started playing with the slower balls because it just didn't work anymore.? It is true that Ferreira had not a huge serve, but he had an excellent volley and, as I've said, he was considered as a grass specialist.
Nadal would have lost against Kendrick in the second round if the game had been played with the old/faster balls.

they may have deadended the balls to offset the newest technology in tennis rackets ;D

who really cares as the players should adjust their game to the equipment...