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Title: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: faldor on June 24, 2006, 08:16:38 PM
According to Ryan Key of Yellowcard.  Not sure if this has been posted before but in the July 2006 edition of STUFF magazine they had a section on rock and roll and Key was asked who was the biggest rock star of all time.  His response.
"Axl Rose.  He did tons of drugs, dated tons of models and made the rest of the band bail on him.  Rock stars are a thing of the past, but I think Axl would be the biggest feature in the rock star museum if they built one."

They also did a front man family tree, and according to them Axl Rose, Vince Neil, and Bret Michaels evolved from David Lee Roth.  And Axl Rose spawned Chris Cornell, Layne Staley and SCOTT WEILAND.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: Verse Chorus Verse on June 24, 2006, 08:18:02 PM
Scott Weiland? How much heroin did Axl do?!


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: busngabb on June 24, 2006, 08:19:24 PM
Quality. Its like Star Wars.

Luke Weiland to Darth Rose, "You are my Father?"

It explains the light sabres at Hammerstein too.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: BLS-Pride on June 24, 2006, 08:19:30 PM
Scott Weiland? How much heroin did Axl do?!

That joke is so over done.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: mr.lance on June 24, 2006, 08:22:11 PM
Scott I am Ur father Darth Axl.

Thats great.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: Eduardo on June 24, 2006, 08:40:07 PM


They also did a front man family tree, and according to them Axl Rose, Vince Neil, and Bret Michaels evolved from David Lee Roth.  And Axl Rose spawned Chris Cornell, Layne Staley and SCOTT WEILAND.

These three (axl, Vince neil, bret michaels and David Lee Roth) all evolved from Steven Tyler. Steven Tyler evolver from Mick
 Jagger


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: JB9988 on June 24, 2006, 08:43:04 PM
Scott Weiland sucks def. not spawned from Axl that guy is a fucking loooooosssssseeeeeeerrrrrrrr heroin using POS!


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: Tomorrows on June 24, 2006, 08:46:52 PM
Scott Weiland sucks def. not spawned from Axl that guy is a fucking loooooosssssseeeeeeerrrrrrrr heroin using POS!

I think most of the members of Guns were heroin users at some stage  :confused:


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: JB9988 on June 24, 2006, 09:06:54 PM
dont think axl did heroin and steven did but i think axl was usually good about not doing the hard drugs too much. Scott on the other hand ha heroing for brteakfast lunch late snack dinner and midnight snack.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on June 24, 2006, 09:08:06 PM
Quality. Its like Star Wars.

Luke Weiland to Darth Rose, "You are my Father?"

It explains the light sabres at Hammerstein too.

Thank you busngabb! ? :rofl: ?That made my night. ? :rofl:

I agree with Ryan Key's assessment of Axl...I disagree with Stuff Magazine's "family tree." ?:beer:


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: Tomorrows on June 24, 2006, 09:15:38 PM
I think the fact that Axl didnt die at his peak automatically discounts him from those "biggest rock star". Id say the person who embodies RnR most is Jim Morrison.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: ClintroN on June 24, 2006, 11:02:26 PM
According to Ryan Key of Yellowcard.  Not sure if this has been posted before but in the July 2006 edition of STUFF magazine they had a section on rock and roll and Key was asked who was the biggest rock star of all time.  His response.
"Axl Rose.  He did tons of drugs, dated tons of models and made the rest of the band bail on him.  Rock stars are a thing of the past, but I think Axl would be the biggest feature in the rock star museum if they built one."

They also did a front man family tree, and according to them Axl Rose, Vince Neil, and Bret Michaels evolved from David Lee Roth.  And Axl Rose spawned Chris Cornell, Layne Staley and SCOTT WEILAND.


accordin' to me, Axl Rose IS the biggest rock star of all time, what makes this guys opinion better :P


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: kingaxl on June 24, 2006, 11:07:39 PM
sorry...tomorrows are you the guy on your pic???


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: faldor on June 24, 2006, 11:57:34 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure Ryan Key has the ultimate say in who exactly is the biggest rock star of all time, but I thought it was interesting and true.  Unfortunately, part of what makes Axl such a big Rock Star is the stuff people constatntly complain about.  Going on late for shows, cancellations, riots, jumping into crowds.  That's what makes Axl so great.  You've gotta take the good with the bad.  However, so far so good this time around.  No problems to speak of.  They averted disaster at Download, 16 years ago the old band probably would've walked off stage.  Maybe Axl's having a bit of a change of heart as he grows wiser.  Or maybe he knows this could be his last shot to get the new band off and running and he can't afford any slipups.  Either way, good stuff.  I can't wait for a release date, and concert dates for the US.  But until then I hope all the European fans rock their asses off when GNR comes to a city near you.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: Booker Floyd on June 25, 2006, 12:25:47 AM
And Axl Rose spawned Chris Cornell, Layne Staley and SCOTT WEILAND.

 ???

Unlikely since Chris Cornell founded Soundgarden in 1984.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: RichardNixon on June 25, 2006, 01:04:37 AM
Axl is part Morrison, part Davy Jones, part Mick Jagger...no DLR in Axl at all! And I am a Dave fan.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: Stonerose on June 25, 2006, 04:23:46 AM
Elvis is the biggest rock star of all time, hes the king of rock n roll.

As far as rock n roll personified, i'd have to go with keith richards


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: mikegiuliana on June 25, 2006, 04:25:49 AM
I don't think axl spawned those guys...  They just happened to break in after..

I think ozzy would be the main guy as far as frontmen in  a rock museum...


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: jimmythegent on June 25, 2006, 04:26:45 AM


They also did a front man family tree, and according to them Axl Rose, Vince Neil, and Bret Michaels evolved from David Lee Roth.? And Axl Rose spawned Chris Cornell, Layne Staley and SCOTT WEILAND.

I think thats an extremely flattering comment to Axl. Somewhat true as well, throw in Perry Farrell as an uncle and youve got it covered


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: Locomotive98 on June 25, 2006, 05:30:57 AM
I think the fact that Axl didnt die at his peak automatically discounts him from those "biggest rock star". Id say the person who embodies RnR most is Jim Morrison.


Agreed, Morrison is the blueprint for all rock stars after him - Axl wouldnt even come close. Despite what Danny Sugarman would say in his rubbish book.

Slash is more of a rockstar than Axl I reckon.

Another 'biggest rockstar' would be Keith Richards - imo. 'Keith is dead, hes just too wasted to realise' - Hicks.



Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: Charity Case on June 25, 2006, 09:11:57 AM
I agree with the Elvis comment.  There has never been any rock star as big or as popular or as cutting edge as Elvis was.  He broke so many barriers from his radical dancing (for the times) to being the first white man to sing a black man's song live on TV.  If you look at things relative to their time, Elvis was and is the biggest rock star of all time.

Axl may fall out in the top 10, but not above Mick Jaggar, Steven Tyler, Elvis, Morrison, Angus Young, and Jimmy Paige...at least IMO.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: mikegiuliana on June 25, 2006, 10:16:18 AM
elvis is such an icon it's amazing.. I wonder if there's a person in the world who never heard of elvis.. Speaking of normal human beings

chuck berry and hendrix of course..


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: deanaxlrose on June 25, 2006, 12:30:27 PM

Slash is more of a rockstar than Axl I reckon.

Another 'biggest rockstar' would be Keith Richards - imo. 'Keith is dead, hes just too wasted to realise' - Hicks.


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funny here in my country.Slash is more well known than Axl.(I Think maybe because the name is more easy to say)
I remember a couple weeks ago my band plays guns.and Im the singer and i do snake dancing too.and many people says."wow you're good as Slash impersonator.keep it up!. (Fuck >:().


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: Bumblefeet on June 25, 2006, 04:44:16 PM
ok axl is my idol but i think that his image as a rock has slightly detieriated since he left his kilt and his crazy antics but who knows wot democracy will bring!!! kurt cobain was the last rock star


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: Sweet on June 25, 2006, 04:58:00 PM
what is Scott shitty Weiland, or whatever his name is, doing in that list anyway?  ???


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: mikegiuliana on June 25, 2006, 06:34:16 PM
what is Scott shitty Weiland, or whatever his name is, doing in that list anyway?? ???

stop, why because you don't like him he shouldn't be there.. it's like can't people speak normal, cause he insulted axl he's not worthy

Bono should be there, guy is larger then life, not  abig fan of his but I have to give the man props


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: titchy on June 25, 2006, 06:50:18 PM
Bono is  the biggest headline seeker i know of, going on & on about africa, even the the other members of u2 resent him for this, ive met bono and hes a prick 


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: Stonerose on June 25, 2006, 11:57:31 PM
Axl, Slash and the stones are the last great rock stars, ithink with grunge being so anti rock star, anti cocaine, anti lomos groupies etc, it sort of unintentionaly killed rock nroll. When Kurt cobain killed himself and guns just stopped, it left a huge void and now we have talentless 'rap stars' like 50 cent. That fuck has been shot like 8 times or sometthin, why could they have not shot that fuck in the head and done us all a fukin favor.

wll i'l get off my soap box, but i just dont see any one band becoming full on ROCK STARS in the near future, it fukin sad.

Kurt cobain killed rock n roll.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: Shirell on June 26, 2006, 03:25:29 AM
Axl Rose is a rock god in my opinion.  Others of worth are Jim Morrison, Robert Plant, Jimmy Page, Slash and Jimmi Hendrix.  For the girls I have to put Janis Joplin in there!


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on June 26, 2006, 04:03:56 AM
Axl and Slash were the last true rock stars.  Axl hasn't released an album in 13 years and still causes a stir wherever he goes and whatever he does.  Slash is still universally recognized.  I think the love-hate thing that Axl has going on with both the media and music fans is pretty unique, the fact that he is still as notorious as he is, and that he is still beloved by his fans and there are still haters who harp on his every move, bashing him and everything he does whenever they get the chance shows his that he's a rock star in every sense.  If he were irrelevant the haters wouldn't still, all these years later, still be so dedicated to bashing him


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: mikegiuliana on June 26, 2006, 04:59:37 AM
Bono is? the biggest headline seeker i know of, going on & on about africa, even the the other members of u2 resent him for this, ive met bono and hes a prick?

but he is known the world over... He may not be liked by everyone but I mean the guy can drop by the white house and say hi..


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: Martina on June 26, 2006, 05:21:45 AM
not THE biggest,but big.....would fit in top 10.  :smoking:


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: pebbles on June 26, 2006, 07:26:54 PM
In my world, axl is the biggest and may i add the hottest rock star ever :love:


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: dolphin on June 26, 2006, 07:37:10 PM
In my world, axl is the biggest and may i add the hottest rock star ever :love:


So you are attracted to men who resemble Mr. Potato Head?

(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:1DAiYPqeyhPF3M:www.stereogum.com/img/axl_rose_2006.jpg)


(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:GVLcYEntTTvC5M:www.cdaccess.com/jpg/shared/front/large/potatoap.jpg)


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: dolphin on June 26, 2006, 07:47:30 PM
(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:Nlz9EbDs5FSc9M:images.amazon.com/images/P/B00061I4U6.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)



(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5352/axl27mr.jpg)


 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: Elrothiel on June 26, 2006, 10:40:03 PM
Well I've been sayin' this for the past fuck knows how long!!

Axl Rose = Epitome of Rock!

But seriously, its kinda obvious! Axl does what Axl wants to do, and THAT is rock n' roll! That's what a rock star is SUPPOSED to do! People nowadays are soooo obsessed with being NICE to everyone ALL the time, and there are soooo many fuckin' RULES that you're supposed to abide by, and its just fuckin REFRESHING when someone like Axl comes along and says "Ya know what, NO! FUCK YOU! I'll do what *I* wanna do!".

And that's cool.

And that's why he's the biggest rock star.

And I've probably said all this shit about a thousand times before! :beer:


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: Malibu on June 27, 2006, 05:16:00 PM
its all a matter of opinion.. personally, i fuckin love Axl, and he is my favorite rock star of all time.  Some will agree, and others will not.. we love him, or we love to hate him.. so either way!

but out of interest, who would you consider to be the top 10 Rock Stars of All Time?

my list:

1.Elvis
2.Keith Richards
3.Jim Morrison
4.Steve Tyler
5.Angus Young
6.Axl Rose
7.Ozzy Osbourne
8.Jimi Hendrix
9.Bono
10.Kurt Cobain

honourable mention: Robert Plant & Slash


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: misterID on June 28, 2006, 12:06:13 AM
Jim Morrison is THE greatest rock star of all time.

Axl is the Frankenstein of rock music. Part Jim, part Mick, part Janice, part Freddy, part DLR. If you were to build a rock star using the best and worst parts of the greatest rock stars of all time you'd get Axl.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: gilld1 on June 28, 2006, 12:26:22 AM
He has turned in to the biggest joke of all-time.  He is not the epitome of a rock star he is the epitome of how to fuck up a career. 


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: Elrothiel on June 28, 2006, 12:34:50 AM
Oh really Gilld? So he's fucked up his career so much he's still filling every venue he's playing at this whole tour so far eh?

Play nice!


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: gilld1 on June 28, 2006, 02:37:18 AM
Why are people there?  To hear new songs?  No, they go to hear the songs they grew up with.  He may sell out every venue and everywhere he goes but so does Weird Al.  He could have been one of the greats but he pissed that away in the last 13 years of silence.  This current tour is nothing but a blast from the past sprinkled with a few new mediocre songs.  The magic is gone...


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: IndiannaRose on June 28, 2006, 02:40:01 AM
sprinkled with a few new mediocre songs.?
Give me a fuckin' break. ::)


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: gilld1 on June 28, 2006, 02:48:15 AM
I do not think that any of the new stuff that I have heard or seen live is that great.  Not bad but not great either.  I do not think that they stack up to the old stuff or to other bands that I am in to now.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: dizzy68 on June 28, 2006, 03:17:05 AM

 Axl = Biggest Rock Star of all time?  :hihi: Doubtful.  Maybe in some peoples heads. But that's about it.


Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: Locomotive98 on June 28, 2006, 05:18:54 AM
Why are people there?? To hear new songs?? No, they go to hear the songs they grew up with.? He may sell out every venue and everywhere he goes but so does Weird Al.? He could have been one of the greats but he pissed that away in the last 13 years of silence.? This current tour is nothing but a blast from the past sprinkled with a few new mediocre songs.? The magic is gone...


I agree with absolutely everything you say, dont worry, Im sure Im not the only one:

I think many people are there due to the following:

1) That they are mad obsessives like the folks on these boards.
2) They are casual fans who have a copy of GH and dont know much else and never really knew the proper line up.
3) They were fans back in the day and arent aware that Slash etc jumped ship long ago.
4) People think that its a reunion tour because Axl has been away since 1993.

I agree that the new songs are pretty bollocks. TWAT excepted - great song, sounds just like  Slash solo to me. Maybe thats why.

The 'biggest rock star of all time' should more time being a rock star and releasing albums and not a primadonna berk that attacks women and bites people after being in hiding learning to be a numerologist or whatever for 13 years.



Title: Re: Axl Rose = the biggest rock star of all time
Post by: gilee7 on June 28, 2006, 05:48:00 AM
When I think of "rock stars" the first people that come to my mind are Axl Rose, Mick Jagger, Steven Tyler, and Kurt Cobain. Maybe Jim Morrison, also. And Elvis, since I guess he was kinda the king and all. Personally, as of right now, I would consider Mick Jagger the biggest rock star of all time. But Axl isn't far behind, plus he's only 44. If you think about it, GNR weren't around very long, they only released three CDs basically (not counting Lies or TSI), and yet they're still considered legends. In another 20 years, after Chinese Democracy and whatever other CDs the new GNR release, as well as possible reunions that might happen one day, I do believe Axl will go down as the greatest rock star of all time. True rock stars are a dying breed anyway; I can't think of one person out there now who is a TRUE rock star, a REAL rock star. Axl and Kurt Cobain were the last two, imo.