Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I am 18 and I have never even kissed a girl, infact they just laugh at me. I have practically no friends. The ones that I have laugh at me behind my back. I have been bullied from like second grade and cause of that I started skipping school and my grades slipped , I don't even know how I managed to graduate from the ninth grade.... I am addicted to the perscription pills and without them I am so insecure and edgy that I practically can't leave the house. Thats probably the result of me getting bullied alot. I am only 169cm/5,7 tall and wear glasses. This is not a joke I must be the most pathetic GN'R fan ever  :no:

At least you have good taste in music! :) No but seriously, think of it this way; because you've had some hard times, you can also appreciate the good times better than some random a**hole.

18 can be a tough age, because you're sort of an adult, but most the time that's not really the case... I wouldn't make too many assumptions based on what your life's right now, you're really young and you still have a lot of good shit ahead of you! :beer:

don't worry man some people start late, there's someone out there for everyone

skeletor you sound like alice cooper :hihi:

Anonymity offers extreme benefits.

One day, you'll thank bullies for making you stronger than they will ever be.

Quit the pills though.

sounds like some kind of anxiety meds, like klonopin or zanax, or maybe adavan... I went through bouts of not wanting to get out of bed or leave the house, the pills helped, but under a doc's care

The thing to remember about bullies is that they are unhappy with themselves. That's why they feel the need to drag others down. They see something in you that they lack.? Don't let them dictate your emotions.

Like Skeletor said, you're still very young with a lot of time ahead of you. So don't get too discouraged.

Also, instead of focusing on what you don't like about your life, try to think of all the things you're grateful for.


There's no such thing.

Then fuck them!? Lord, who needs friends like that?!? But whenever you have such low self-esteem, you make yourself a perfect target for bullies and bitches.? What the hell is wrong with being 5'7'' tall?!? Or wearing glasses??? ????

You have to take care of yourself.? If you're not happy with yourself or your life, do what you can to change it.? Figure out what would make you happy.? And if your "friends" are dragging you down, ditch em...

18 is a really tough age, but you'll get through it, honey? ?:-*

Can't one of you ladies just be good gunners and help him out... Little hands on training never hurts :yes:

You do seem very pathetic. Get a MYSPACE.com site, write what you wrote here, and you'll have thousands of friends. Then commit suicide.

That's an awful thing to, but I laughed.......I guess that makes me the asshole.

Hun, two words: Fuck em!!

Think of it this way: You are your own person, you do what you want to do, and don't you dare give a shit about what other people think of you!!! I was bullied the entire time I was at school! It got less towards the end, but that was only because I just stopped caring about it and did whatever the fuck I liked!!

If you do that, the girls will be more likely to want to be with you than if you just let yourself get bullied!

Stand up for yourself!! LAUGH at the bullies if they try anything!! That's the best thing!! If they come up to you and start saying shit to you, then just laugh at them, agree with them!! Say "Haha!! Yea you're right!!! And ya know what else? I'm this, this n' this too!!"

And if they try beating you up, then fight back and WALK off. Say "hmm... yea whatever!" and if they KEEP badgering you, just go "Yes? What?". And as a last resort, land a punch on one of the bullies' noses.

But whatever you do, don't let them get away with it! All they want is to know they're getting to you! It makes them feel powerful, and they do it because they can't get that feeling anywhere else because THEY'RE pathetic!
Buuuuuut... always be as nice to them as possible. It'll make them look stupid.

And there is NO such thing as a pathetic Guns N' Roses fan.

:peace:

And... read 'The Catcher In The Rye' it'll change your life. Honestly, you'll relate to the main character I think (in a good way) I haven't finished it though...

Don't worry either way, most people get bullied at high school, but it works out in the end.

Were all pathetic!! Jk..

Man what you need is to get a hobby! forget the friends that go behind your back.. Find a youth group or some kind of activity that you can participate in! Go volunteer somewhere! Girls like guys that volunteer! Try to get off the pills.. thats probly your biggest problem.. don't be hard on yourself! I know alot of guys that are your age and older that are in the same boat as you are..

Thanks a lot for all the positive responses guys and gals. I'll keep those in mind and try to change my life accordingly.

its not about trying to change who you are dude, enjoy your life and live every day as it comes. Sometimes i forget how hard it was for me at school as I didn't "fit in" either. I now enjoy being an outcast like a square peg in a round hole. I have a few freinds who are there when i need em and although it is selfish, fuck everyones attitudes. do what you wanna do, go to partys, learn to drive, volenteer somewhere, get a part time job. Its not all about the ladies, they will come eventually, and normally when you least expect it. I'm now 25 been to Uni now have the job,car,flat and some spare cash and I have a girl (who sometimes is a pain in the ass). I have a school reunion tommorrow and I'm dreading it (long story) as there will be people there I havent seen in like 6 years, most of them I don't want to see or have nothing to do with, ex mates, ex girlfriends, etc. But I'm going to hold my head up high and say yeah I made it, I have achieved what I wanted, what others said i couldnt and there are some who didn't complete the journey (RIP) I probably am in for a lot of flack, but fuck em. I stand by my priciples and my chose way of life

Set yourself a target dude, say by the time you are 25 you want to have completed X.
First thing get off the pills, they only drag you down. you don't need that shit, then go do something constructive. I am now a scout leader (no paedo jokes please) and a few years ago you wouldn't have trusted me with a toaster let alone 40 kids. I drank too much, smoked too much, and took too much crap and you come to a point where it just aint worth it anymore.

Fuck everyone! ENJOY YOUR LIFE! do what you want to do (thats legal), and for the bullies, they will get bored, they are just small minded fuckers who need some entertainment in their small insignificant lives

peace

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Get a makeover. Get new friends. Date a French chick (they like awkward dudes). That'll boost your confidence.

You're only pathetic if you let yourself be. And getting sympathy doesn't help. 18 is a tough age. It will change though.

i've been bullied a lot cos of my race, religion, etc. but dont worry. So what if you aint kissed a girl? trust me it really isnt as exciting as it seems. It looks better on screen than in reality. Don't let it disturb your education because at least you'll have success in life with prestigious people if you study hard and have great ambitions.

You kick ass in our book buddy. : ok:

 I think almost everyone gave decent feedback (I think one jackass replied but there's always one). Anyway try not to get too down on yourself, I'm sure alot of us felt that way when we were 18. Your world is pretty small right now, when you get to be a year or two older & out of school you stop seeing the so-called bullies and meet new possibly better friends.

  Yeah, maybe try to rely less on meds, I think alot of people take them so they can feel like a "victim", you control  how you feel, not other people. "Catcher in the Rye" is a great book to read makes you realize you may not be the only one. I heard a line one {British people may know where I got this} "If all people threw all their worries and troubles into a pot, they would rather take back their own worries than leave with their fair share." Means alot of people have worse problems than you & me. Not trying to minimize you're problems, just look at what you do have, not what you don't. Chris Rock said about those Columbine kids they were upset "they didn't have any friends.. Wahhhhh, :'( they didn't have any friends. I looked at picture of them, there were eight of 'em. I didn't have eight friends in high school, I don't have eight friends now."

Why do people think this comment is funny.

There are a lot of things to joke about but suicide is not one of them.

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But since we're on the subject, I didn't get my first kiss until I was 19, if that makes you feel any better.

You ain't pathetic, whats to say that goin around makin out wi different girls is the way to go

you will find someone you really like soon, believe me

agreed GunsN'Wookies you're a douchebag :rant: but you have a cool name ;D


21 here... College was great, got to start over... :yes:

take up a hobby....drawing, painting, guitar, chess, videogames anything....and go out on a limb and talk to somebody...what the worst that could happen? and before you know it you'll have a small group of buddies, you won't know if you have anything in common with people if you don't talk to them : ok:

First of all, you're not pathetic. ?Pathetic is just a state of mind, and if your attitude sucks, than your life is going to suck. ?Your "friends" are the ones who are pathetic, and they're not really your friends if they laugh at you behind your back. ?
You've got to get off the pills. ?Withdrawal is HELL, but you've got to push past it. ?I came off of methadone several months ago(taken for a chronic nerve injury, NOT heroin use) and I was in agony. ?The anxiety was awful and I was also awake for 10 days and thought I was going to have a psychotic episode. ?I don't know what kind of pills you're on, but you've got to get off of them, and once you get over the hump of withdrawal, that alone will make you feel better once you've got that garbage out of your system. ?But do it with under a doctor's supervison. ?As for the girls, two of the coolest guys I've ever known (met them in college) were still virgins by the time they were 19. ?Everyone knew, and no one thought anything of it. ?One of those guys hadn't kissed a girl either.
You've got to find something to focus on so you can get outside of yourself. ?Volunteering is a good idea... just something to get you out of the house so you can direct your energy towards something positive. ?
And just remember... Axl is only 5'9", he needs glasses too, he was picked on in school, and as Izzy said, he "never got any p*ssy in high school." ?
How you see yourself today is not what you're destined to be for the rest of your life.

Yeah, what she said.

Hmm that's kinda hard since I dropped out of school after the ninth grade....

Hmm that's kinda hard since I dropped out of school after the ninth grade....

Legally? How old were you?

17

hey, i said you have a cool name :hihi: , i just thought your humor there was a bit tasteless :P seriously I'm not that bad, i meant douchebag in the nicest way, honestly

1)get back to school

2)learn to respect yourself(i know it is tough)

3)hugh hefner masturbated for the first time at the age of 21 so there is always hope :hihi:




 

Was Hef in a coma for a number of years?Or was He just lying?

I would but math got so hard for me that there is no point.

Keep watching Star Wars and whining on the internet, chix dig it.

Chick Wookies, of course. You should go out with him and lift his spirits  :yes:

LISTEN TO ME FUCKER! ?YOU HAVE COME TO THE RIGHT PLACE

THINGS YOU POSTED ARE NOT ONLY HAPPENING TO YOU. I CAN RELATE TO SOME OF THAT SHIT.

#1) YOU HAVE FOUND GNR SO OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE GOT A CONNECTION TO THE MUSIC AND THAT IS A GOOD PLACE TO BE WHEN YOU NEED TO PONDER LIFE

#2) ?NO MATTER HOW YOU FEEL INSIDE, DO NOT WEAR THAT HEART OF YOURS ON YOUR SLEEVE. ?DON'T LET PEOPLE SEE THAT YOU ARE CRAVING THEIR FRIENDSHIP OR ATTENTION. BE YOURSELF. NO MATTER HOW BAD IT HURTS OR HOW MUCH SCHOOL IS FUCKING WITH YOU, WHEN YOU LEAVE IT AND GO TO COLLEGE OR WORK - NONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WILL MATTER - YOU CAN AND WILL START OVER - AND YOU WILL TAKE YOUR PAIN WITH YOU - AND YOU WILL BE A BETTER MAN FOR IT

#3) ?THE PILLS: ?THAT'S A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE I WOULD'NT WANT YOU TO REMOVE SOMETHING THAT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD WHEN YOU OTHERWISE WOULD FEEL BAD - BUT YOU'VE GOTTA LOSE THEM - THE PROBLEM WITH THEM IS THE ADDICTIVE NATURE OF THEM - AND NO MATTER HOW STRONG YOU BECOME - IT WILL NOT MATTER BECAUSE YOUR BODY WILL DEVELOP A DEPENDENCY- THEN YOU WILL BE A DOPED OUT STRANGE DUDE - AND NO CHICK WANTS TO GET WITH SOME DUDE WHO CAN BARELY FORM A SENTENCE

#4) ?CHICKS- DON'T BECOME TOO OBSESSED. BEING YOUR AGE AND NOT BEING KISSED IS NOTHING TO BE EMBARASSED ABOUT. IT JUST HASN'T HAPPENED . YOU SEEM TO WANT IT TO HAPPEN, BUT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE RIGHT NOW.- DON'T SWEAT IT- CHICKS WILL BE AROUND YOUR WHOLE LIFE AND FUTURE - ?STAY STRONG - KEEP STROKING THE HAMMER ( NOT A BAD THING - AND I KNOW YOU ARE BEATING THAT SHIT TO DEATH DUDE!) - AND THAT WOMEN OF YOUR FUTURE WILL CROSS YOUR PATH WHEN YOU LEAST EXPECT IT - UNCLE COMAMOTIVE CAN GUARANTEE THIS - YOU EVER SEE WHAT NAPOLEAN DYNAMITE LOOKS LIKE? YOU CAN'T BE WORSE OFF THAN THAT FREAK

#5 ) ?THERE ARE UNSPEAKABLE TRAGEDIES IN LIFE. SOMETIMES YOU MAY NEED TO SEE SOMEONE WHO HAS IT WORSE THAN YOU TO REALIZE YOU CAN DO BETTER , YES, BUT YOU ARE NOT BURIED FOR LIFE

#6) ?FUCK YOUR FRIENDS. I MEAN THAT. ANYONE WHO TALKS SHIT BEHIND YOUR BACK WILL NOT BE THERE WHEN YOU NEED THEM. CUT LOOSE OF THEM, SLOWLY BUT SURELY. DON'T MAKE IT DRAMATIC, JUST MOVE AWAY FROM THEM. THEY ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM. REMOVE THEM FROM YOUR PERSONAL EQUATION AND FIND SOME NEW DUDES TO HANG WITH - DON'T JUDGE ANYONE EITHER. SOMEONE WHO YOU THINK YOU COULD NEVER HANG OUT WITH COULD BE THE PERFECT ONE TO CHILL WITH - AND THAT GOES FOR CHICKS TOO

#7) ?KEEP US POSTED ON YOUR PROGRESS. ?


GOOD LUCK DUDE - REMEMBER TO TAKE IT SLOW AND GRAB A NEW OUTLOOK ON LIFE - START OVER NOW

MAKE NO MISTAKE - AXL CAN HELP

I'm not a gay wookie.

WHY DID YOU WRITE THAT IN CAPS LOCK?

u sound like a good guy but u seem to have given up all hope.

u are 17! u are supposed to make mistakes, u are supposed to ?dislike the way u look like, u are supposed to feel insecure!!!

u are a boy on your way to become a man- this is a very tricky period of time but trust me it will go away. u cannot let a bunch of bullies, some girls or math destroy your life.

get back to school and face your problems instead of running away from them-this is what will make u stronger, this is what will make u a man.

do this and after some years u will look at this thread and u will laugh :beer:

Did anyone else picture Chris Farley as the motivational speaker while reading this?

BECAUSE I LIVE IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!!!

I pictured Pee Wee Herman for some REASON!  :hihi:

What about getting your GED? ?
Not to sound like too much of a PollyAnna, but if you keep telling yourself you can't do something, than you absolutely won't. ?Think positively and just try... Why not just tell yourself you can do whatever it is you want to do, and then try it. ?I understand how you're thinking... you tell yourself you're pathetic and you can't do math, etc, etc, so that way you won't be disappointed when things don't go you're way. ?But in the end, YOU'LL STILL BE DISAPPOINTED. ?I really do believe in self fulfilling prophesies, and until you start focusing on something else, you'll never pull yourself out of your funk. ?
Whatever you can do... just getting out of the house and going for a walk. ?Start listing all of the things you're grateful for and tell yourself how lucky you are to have them. ?I had heard someone talk about one of the Katrina survivors, who had said the storm taught her "I can live with nothing and still survive." ?That is so powerful, that people suffer in ways you or I couldn't imagine. ?And please do not think I am downplaying your pain, I'm certainly not. ?But speaking as someone else who feels their life sucks (right now) I know what I need to do to pull myself up and not dwell on the bad things. ?You need to find out what you like about yourself and start creating some good things in your life.

Rocksteady...you don't even seem like you wanna try. I mean you have to least try to succeed in school.

I doesn't get much worse than that! :rant:

axl can help..

I liked it, sounds like a commercial  ;D ( teasin)  :-*

But true though.

One shy 18 year old became axl rose.

Do you feel better now ?  ;)

Don't worry, your advice was decent, Pee Wee ?: ok:

THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF TIME FOR TAKING PILLS AND KISSING GIRLS......WHEN YOU'RE LIVING IN A VAAAAAAAAN DOWN BY THE RIVER

NOW LET'S SAY YOU'RE MAKING OUT WITH MARY JANE ROTTENCROTCH AND YOU GO TO SLIP HER A PIECE OF THE OLD GENE SIMMONS SPECIAL (dives through a table).

Rip Chris Farley ?:'(

LMFAO!!!!!

Well Loddy-frikkin-da!!

RIGHT ON BRO :confused:

Damn fuckin' right, but... oh dear GOD why did you write all that in Caps!!? I know you imagined yourself saying it loudly... but loudness doesn't always have to be conveyed with Caps Lock on all the time... the Exclamation Mark is your friend! :)

Buuuut I agree with everything you said! :)

Bullshit   >:(

Math got hard for me too ya know!! And did I quit school? No! Was I bullied? YES! I probably had it harder than you do! You are NOT the only one out there who's had it hard ya know!

GO back to school, and keep studying!! And if you find things hard, study harder and you won't find it hard anymore then will ya!!

And I can just predict you saying something along the lines of "I can't be bothered".

Yes you certainly can be bothered!! Get off those pills, go back to school, study hard, go to university or college, and GET OUT THERE IN THE BIG WIDE WORLD!

... cue movie montage scene here...

"We're gunna need a montage (montaaaage!)!"

I'm shorter than you, I wear glasses, I got curly hair, I used computers when nobody else did.... Do you think I was one of the cool people in school? As far as I'm concerned, all those people who are trying to act cool are the pathetic ones.

It's so funny to see certain people come to this board and try to insult me. It's like fucking fifth grade all over again... Except we're dealing with "adults" here.

I think most of us have had similar experiences with people as you mentioned. So it's not like you're the only one who got "friends" like that. 



/jarmo

Nothing wrong with that,I didnt kiss a girl till I was 19.

U are probably a late bloomer like I was.

Which is the best way to be.

All the jocks and cool people from high school are now mostly bald and fat whereas I went from being chubby and geeky in high school to looking better as I get older.

U can change whatever u want about yourself.

get in the gym and start pumpin iron, change your hair, change your style of dress OR just learn to like who u are and say FUCK everyone else.

Picking up a musical instrument also helps! : ok:

I agree. You are SOOOO young dude.  Commit to making the changes in yourself that YOU want to change.  All that superficial nonsense from High School will mean nothing in a few years.  People will accept/like you for who you are.  But one thing that you MUST be is confident with yourself.  Whether its making new friends or going after chicks, nobody likes someone who is insecure and self loathing.  Believe you are the man and eventually you will be.  hang in there, one thing to keep in mind is that life is ALWAYS changing, for better or for worse.

I agree. You are SOOOO young dude.? Commit to making the changes in yourself that YOU want to change.? All that superficial nonsense from High School will mean nothing in a few years.? People will accept/like you for who you are


Another thing to remember here, my friend, is that sometimes in High School you get "branded"
Meaning for whatever reason everyone sees you as something and that's the way it is. It will never change. It happens, don't get discouraged. Whether you go to college or move to a new town, no matter, the branding is worthless at that point.

Whoever said that above about the good-looking people from high school being fat and bald now - that is definitely true - some dude who was Mr.High School was pumping my gas about 10 years after high-school and he was a wreck. Damn ....I'm the man

This post reminds me of the fake letters to Ann Landers or Dear Abby. Usually, they are a hoax by people who want attention.
I think there are many more GNR fans who are much more pathetic than you, in fact, I am sure of it. 

I feel your pain man, those years can be tough like that.

But things can change a lot from when your 18 to when your like 29 - trust me! Hang in there and things could improve :)

Also dont feel bad about being a virgin, I know a lot of people that didnt get laid until their mid 20s even, sure i also know a bunch of others that got it on from age 12 or whatever...but in the end you'll get what you want :)

Noup u are just fine
Anyway
If u think only bad about yourself,then u cant improve yourself
Go,be like me,a big egoistic mofo:) ,trust me,its hellping in everything. :rofl: :rofl: :hihi:

You are not pathetic. 
There is nothing wrong with YOU.  18 is a really tough age.  I wouldn't go through those years again for anything!  You will get through it, quit those pills now though.  You are better and stronger than that.  As for everyone else who thinks your less than they are, I agree with the general advice 'Fuck 'em', you'll be fine on this forum.  We chat to EVERYBODY!!!

You know sweetie, i was so bullied at school :

I was formed before other girls, so they stopped talking to me, guys would lift my skirts up all the time ( i was MOR TI FIED) , they would poke my tits, i was bullied because of my red hair, because i had pink reading glasses ( thanks mum), because i was in a posh school and my dad lost his job so i had to wear cheap cheap clothes and i was made fun of, people would steal my pens and stuff KNOWING dad wouldn't have enough money to replace them, i was beaten up because some silly girl told me and and another a secret and i didn't know how to defend myself so the other girl pretended i had talked, resulting in me being beaten up by 5 kids from my class, i was also almost raped at 15 by two guys from my class and i sat EVERY DAY NEXT TO THEM for the rest of the year ( it happened an 18th of october 1990) and that day, i decided to leave schoo, for good. And i did at the end the year.

Some 16 years later, i have registered on a site where old " friends" can meet.

In m profile, there is a " you know who you all are, thank you "

Although i may be a little " too" strong and bitter at times, it's also brought me a lot.

And somewhat, it turned me into someone who is capable to UNDERSTAND pain in others.

And i do my very best to N0T hurt anyone.

But be careful, it's also turned me into someone who has sacrificed way too much because i hate conflict and i am scared of a lot today, especially when it concers human relationships.

One word of advice :

Go and speak about it to a professional, NOW.

Don't wait.

Yeah - good idea.  I know a few people who have spoken to councillers over the years and they always come out of it happier and more confident.  All the advice that's been said here has been spot on but, if you can afford it, I definately think a counciller could help.

I just finished High School, it feels damn good.

You should ditch these assholes that you call your friends. They're taking advantage of you, true friends don't do that.

I never had a girlfriend either, I became friends with girls I liked but either I wasn't their type to date or they liked somebody else. Instead of feeling insecure, I just realize I tried at least.

I know, being bullied is hell. I'm born with a hearing loss so I'm sort of deaf, I had trouble learning and socializing in school, the other kids thought I was retarded. In 7th grade, I really went down hill, dealing with this hell in school the same time I lost a family member I was really close to. Eventually I straightened up so I'm back on a more comfortable level. I'd say my teenage years were the worst but life is cool again.  :beer:

i'm afraid of girls.
does that belong in this topic?

I've helped someone like you, it's really not an quick prosess, but we felt sorry for this loser-boy few years back and actually we sat down with him a lot and gave some tips and pointers of this and that, we could'nt make a guy a casanova, but he managed to get a chick after that.

Basicly it's all about confidence, that's what we did, we helped the guy to build some confidense, there's some books about that, I think you should read some of those.

Are those pills what doctor ordered you?'

If the classes bug you, get contact linses and after that start testing your limits, like if you're shy work on it and start hanging out, if your fat, work yourself out in good shape.

My story goes that I was bullied from day one when I started school, the guy jumped me and I smashed his face to the asphalt, sure I needed to go through some therapy, but that moment I realized there's no one who can tell what I can or can't do. Everyone thought I didn't have a chance.

So after that I started working out, 'cos I had this image of who I wanna be. I got new friends (and some problems with the cops as I came one of the "bad guys") and after I've worked with my self-esteem I suddenly noticed it was real easy to get a girl.

It's that simple.

Nothing to fear dude...no teeth in the pussy! :rofl:

Unless you consider weeping herpe sores as teeth!   :nervous: Wrap it up youngsters.  Rule of thumb....it's always pouring down rain in sexworld, so make sure you have your raincoat on.  Even if you think you know the other person, you may not know their adventures.  Be safe, be cool, don't fear pussaliah!

yea babe,dont let the assholes get u down. there are going to be obstacles all your life. you are going to meet shitheads all thru your life, but the good will far out weigh the bad . not everyone kisses and has sex before the age of 17, like they show on all these stupid teen movies.(yea i know a lot do but it doesnt make you weird if you dont), you really have a much better situation than the ones that do that so young. we all think we"re a little pathetic at times. :yes:

You know all this positive feedback has made me feel even more pathetic, cause now I see that there are so many people who have been in a similar situation and made something out of themselves  : ok:   ...But I probably won't  :no:
I am good at nothing, today I sucked in football so much that it's ridiculous (usually I am a half decent player) I'm ugly and short.

And this "get back to school" advice doesn't work for me. There is no other thing in the world that I hate so passionately as school. Have you lived years in agony powerless to feel joy even over the most wonderful things, cause every minute you think how much time is it till you have to go back to school. Crying yourself to sleep usually late at night so your sleep is rather short. Runned away from school in the middle of the winter and catching pneumonia (several times). And I didn't even learn anything useful from school. My english is decent cause of TV school has nothing to do with it.

But maybe I am a negative creep and deserve all of this I don't know......

LISTEN UP FUCKWAD!   YOU SUCKED AT FOOTBALL?? BIG SHIT - HOW DID YOU EVEN GET IN THE GAME IF YOU'RE AS MUCH A LOSER AS YOU TRY TO PORTRAY YOURSELF?

DID'NT LEARN ANYTHING FROM SCHOOL?  WELL, YOU LEARNED NOT TO RUN AWAY IN THE FUCKING WINTER DID'NT YOU?  AT LEAST YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY TO LEARN!

DESERVE THIS?  SUCKING AT FOOTBALL AND GETTING PNEUMONIA?  WHO DESERVES THAT? 

SERIOUSLY DUDE, STOP PICKING APART DIFFERENT STORIES HERE TO MAKE YOURSELF FEEL WORSE. USE THE FACT THAT THESE STORIES EVEN EXIST TO REALIZE YOU ARE NOT FUCKING ALONE. COUSIN COMAMOTIVE IS A GOOD CAPTAIN IF YOU'RE WILLING TO SAIL THE SHIP. ( I'M FLEXING RIGHT NOW - INVOLUNTARY FLEXES TOO!)

GOD I'M SWEET!

LISTEN UP FUCKWAD!? ?YOU SUCKED AT FOOTBALL?? BIG SHIT - HOW DID YOU EVEN GET IN THE GAME IF YOU'RE AS MUCH A LOSER AS YOU TRY TO PORTRAY YOURSELF?

DID'NT LEARN ANYTHING FROM SCHOOL?? WELL, YOU LEARNED NOT TO RUN AWAY IN THE FUCKING WINTER DID'NT YOU?? AT LEAST YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY TO LEARN!

I played with those "friends" that I got plus there were couple of guys who didn't know me. But now they know me and there are some more people who laugh at me. And I didn't learn not to run away cause I did it several times. And I probably would do it again.

Dude, seriously, go back to school, and just grit your teeth and bear it! We all had to!
You are being way too negative about everything, and it really isn't healthy! If you cannot feel joy for anything at all, then you cannot live properly! And NO ONE deserves that!

You are only 17 years old, and you won't stop growing until you are 22.

And who gives a shit about whether you're good at football or not!!?

I mean... I'm shit at tennis, I'm shit at badminton, I'm shit at football and all sorts of sport, but I really couldn't give a fuck!! I'm not playing those sports for money, if I have to play them at all, I just want to have fun! And that's what you should do! Just try and have fun and forget all about trying to be the best at it! Trust me, it'll make people respect you a whole lot more if you can laugh at yourself and have fun. They'll go "Hey, there's Rocksteady! He's awesome and he's such a laugh! Great guy to be mates with!"

It ain't gunna work if you just mope around and be all emo all the time!

Be sensible, don't cry yourself to sleep late every night, that's just silly! Have an early night for once, read a GOOD uplifting book, and just enjoy the moment! Don't get too deep in your thoughts because if they're as negative as you've said, then you WILL end up crying!

And GO back to school. I don't care how much you hate it, if you go through with it like we all had to, you will feel SO much better when you graduate and finish school. You'll be like "YES!!! FINALLY!!" And you'll be able to enjoy it properly! And you will feel like you achieved something! You'll be able to have a li'l thing called Self Respect.

If thinking too deeply makes you depressed, DON'T THINK DEEPLY!! Just do your best to ENJOY your life! There are people out there who've had it so much worse than you, and you don't see them moping around and not at least TRYING to enjoy themselves!

Trying is the first step towards success, and don't you forget it!!

Now go and enroll in school again! : ok:

hell, yeah, you're a negative creep! you think you're the only one on this planet who has problems? I've been down for two years..I feel like shit and I feel like I'm the last person on earth. I feel lonely, I don't have the results I want at university, I feel pathetic, I almost hate everybody, and there's nothing I've been doing in the last 5 years that could make me be proud of myself. I like to lock inside my house, not answer to the telephone and listen to depressing music and read depressing books and feel sorry for myself and become even more pathetic. so what? I know that one day the sun will shine for me too...I hope so... :-\
you'll be fine, don't worry...we all have our ups and downs ?: ok:
one more thing: pretend thet you like everything you do( including school)...you will end up actually liking it...it takes time and a lot of effort, but wtf? you're doing it for yourself. stop feeling sorry for yourself. this is the easyest thing to do...and most pathetic...

Yea damn right MoonChild! (By the way, I'm sorry you're down... *hug*)

Rocksteady... every post you've made in this thread... it just sounds like you're sayin' you can't be bothered... but you still are complaining.

If you don't want to do anything to help yourself, then don't fucking complain because we don't want to have to repeat ourselves every time you decide you want to tell everyone how pathetic you feel!

I am 18 and half and haven't grown for 3 years. Someone asked me earlier how old I were when I dropped out of school.
And football is the only thing I can do with my so called friends, otherwise I would have to sit in the house and do nothing.

YOU MAY NEED TO DO THIS:  NEXT FOOTBALL GAME, WHEN YOUR FRIEND HAS THE BALL....FUCKING CLOTHESLINE THAT CHIMP! YOU'D BE SURPRISED HOW GOOD YOU MIGHT FEEL. THEN, PAINT YOUR FACE BLACK, BUY A TURKEY BASTER AND SOME RUBBER BANDS, AND CAMP OUTSIDE ONE OF YOUR OTHER FRIENDS HOUSE WHO HAS A DOG....THEN......WHEN YOU'RE THROUGH WITH THE DOG, MAKE IT FEEL MORE LONELY THAN YOU EVER DID

POINT BEING - TRY SOMETHING NEW MY FRIEND, ANYTHING, YOU MAY FIND A NEW WORLD, A NEW LIFE , INSIDE THE SMALLEST THING OR EXPERIENCE

PS :  IF YOU WANT TO CLOTHESLINE THE DOG AND SODOMIZE THE FRIEND, THAT'S A OK WITH ME

we hear you, COMAMOTIVE!? ;)
next time try to unlock the CAPS? : ok:....please... ;D

Yea, you can still DO it with your friends, but who cares if you're not any GOOD at it!!? Just run around and enjoy yourself!!

And why can't you do anything else with your friends? Hang out, watch the game, have a couple of beers!

And how tall are you anyway? You said you were 5 foot 7. That's a decent height! Yea it ain't 6 foot but it ain't THAT far off!! And you probably WILL grow a few more inches in a few years! Just be patient!

Tom Cruise is shorter than that anyway... he's about 5 foot 4! And look at him! He's not depressed! He's the highest paid actor in the world! Do you think he WAS depressed about his height when he was your age? He probably was!

Height does not govern your life! Yea you can't become a catwalk model or be put down in the Guinness Book of Records as the tallest man in the world, but BIG FUCKIN' DEAL!! You can still make something of yourself!

Now quit being so lazy and PICK YOURSELF UP!

Ya know what they say if you fall off a horse? Get RIGHT BACK ON IT! Or what'll happen is you'll develop a fear. And it looks like you didn't get back on that horse fast enough, because you are SCARED dude! You care WAY too much about what everyone thinks of you, and its really hindering the way you live your life!

I'm not your mom dude, and I only know you from your posts, and I don't HAVE to give you this advice, but I am because I consider myself to be a decent person, BUT I don't see any point in keeping on giving you advice because you just aren't taking it! You're shoving every bit of decent advice I'm giving you back in my face, and let me tell you that I don't appreciate it!

Now fucking buck up your ideas and just fucking take my advice, and USE it!

And MAYBE if you weren't so mopey, then your friends would be your REAL friends and not your "so called" friends!


ok I'm getting frustrated... perhaps I should let someone else take over my spot for a li'l while. Now I know why I didn't become a professional psychiatrist.

Sorry about the CAPS - I'm getting worked up trying to help here -  This kid needs to understand that while things may look bad - in the grand scheme of things, maybe it's just a bump in the road - AND I WANT HIM TO UNDERSTAND ME WHEN I SPEAK!

....OR YOU'LL END UP LIVING IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!!!!

Dude, come on, either you're completely and utterly depressed, which you need to go back to your doctor and fix the meds or just talk, or you're just wanting attention. This thread is 4 pages long all ready....

It should just turn into the universal depression thread led by our leader Rocksteady  : ok:

First of all stop football.

And try boxing, then you really might cry just a little if someones better than you, lol.

But seriously reading you post makes me wonder, is there anything you haven't dropped out? do your dictionary got the word try? I'm not tryying to be an asshole here, but seriously your life seems to suck and you ain't doing nothing about but comlaining on an internet forum!

Don't you think that's a shame? Really, what's there to lose if you decide to do something to your life, 'cos in the end there's no other person controlling your life than YOU, yes YOU! I'm sorry to break this to you, but really there's no miracle going to happen and someone will come and make all the wrongs done to you right.

Trying really ain't the first step tho as sweet skynyrdgirl pointed out, it's deciding.

If you want a change, work for a change, have some goal in your life.

And really you need to go back to school if you ever want a decent job in your life.

:hihi: There were a couple posts here that made want to jump out of a window... Not a window on a tall buidling, but more of a window of a car parked over soft sand... With scantly clad women all around... And a flowing fountain of tequila... 

Basically from what I have read your only real problem is a giant lack of self confidence. Everytime someone suggests something, you bring something else up. It seems like you are just looking for reassurance on everything or someone to tell you that everything is going to be fine. Go talk to a counceler dude seriously. Before you can begin fixing things in your life you need to get some things sorted out mentally first.

Honestly.? Your attitude sucks.?

You didn't come here looking for advice or to better yourself in any way.? You started this shitty little thread in the hopes of gaining more pity and attention from others.? People have taken the time to respond to you with positive advice and encouragement.? But you're not the least bit grateful for their concern, and you apparently have no desire to heed their advice or even try to be happy with yourself!?

 Feeling sorry for someone who feels so much self-pity is impossible...

Yes I am depressed. And yes I whine alot. Here's anoter thing that I am gonna whine about....  Those bitch ass headaches (huge and last for hours) that I have  >:( back when I was still in school I used to have them everyday now about two times a week.
But the most frustrting thing is that sometimes my left halfh goes almost completely senseless. My left arm and leg go numb, also the left half of my face and the left eye so I can't see for shit with it( all is fuzzy and really blurry). Plus the most horrible thing is that I can't speak well during this, I know what I am trying to say but I don't remember the words or I mess them up so I look and sound like a retard (I think it's cause my left half of the brain doesn't function properly during this). It usually goes away after drinking a lot of magnesium and taking some sedatives. Doctors have said that it has something to do with my nerves.

Something to do with nerves, eh?

Well is it a panic attack or like something shortcircuiting in your brain?

That doesn't sound much fun tho.

Btw, I hate when people use the faults in them as an excuse.

All you do is come with reason why you can't do this or that, when you only need one reason why you can.

I don't know what it exactly is but it doesn't feel good  :no:  What really gets me mad is when people say that I have made that up. Some fucked up doctor said "clearly the boy is faking it, he doesn't want to go to school"  >:(  How the hell do you fake this kinda thing anyway?

I have migraines, and i used to have convulsions too.

Most linked to the nervous system. i do have panick attacks ( rarely now), suffer from claustrophobia, agoraphobia and some paranoia.

Best advise is GO AND SEE SOMEONE.

Can't you see your inertness is damaging your you and your future ?

You are going to devellop fears, they will be there, strongly rooted, before you even realise it.

It takes little time to fuck up and YEARS of therapy to feel a little better later on in life.

You're young, obviously strongly depressed ( not doing a thing, not being able to and complaining is asking for help because you don't know how to help yourself) but you have to give yourself little goals to achieve :

1) find something positive each morning, things as little or silly as to hear birds sing or a sunny day
2) every day, list 1 quality of yours on paper
3) dress a list of what you want to become and how you can do this in a pure logical ational manner ( if you want muscle, go to the gym, if you don't have money to go to the gym, find a little after svhool job that'll pay for it, if you don't find strengh to find a job, at least make sure you always buy the paper until you are ready to, etc etc)
4) try to hang around older people ADULTS, they will be interested in you as a person and it'll boost your self confidence. Young people are often idiots and intellectually, you probably have nothing to gain in becoming like them anyway.

i'm doing fine.
didnt get a big breakfast this morning tho, that sucks

but it's lunch time now i'm gonna eat like a pig.

you need a good massage.  :hihi:

you go DeN ! go get her !!!


ps: dont forget the camera.

oh bless, this i need... :'( :yes:

Oh my . . .? :o :hihi:

Chelle's right! Its true! This guy isn't taking ANY of our advice, he's not even TRYING to be happy, he's not even trying to look at the positive side of things, and he cares WAY too much about what other people think.

And the worst thing is that if he knew he wasn't going to take any of our advice, the only reason he put this thread up is so that people will give him cyber hugs and tell him that everything's gunna be just fine. Which it probably will, but his attitude DOES stink, and he needs a cyber slap rather than a cyber hug.

I wasted ten minutes of my time typing that advice out for him, and he didn't fucking take it, and just keeps coming up with... yes.. PATHETIC excuses, and I'm pissed off because I coulda been doing better things with my time than type out decent advice for some little emo kid who won't take that fucking advice because all he wants is attention.

No wonder I hate emos.

:no: >:(

you guys are mean
i hate you !

Skynyrdgirl, you learned a very important lesson today, you tried and failed.? :yes: Lesson learned?? Never try.? :no:


They are right though buddy, it would benefit you if you changed your perception on things. Learn to forgive people, and not allow it to bother you, because it sounds like YOU are the one with a problem, not anybody else. If people bully you, they don't MAKE you upset, you allow yourself to be upset. Try not to thing of things as such a catastrophy either. You're not pathetic because you never kissed a girl, heck you might be a decent guy. You tell the story like you're a victim to all these things, try retelling it as things that happened, but you able to accept all of it.



I am 18 and I have never even kissed a girl, infact they just laugh at me.? I get nervous around girls, but it's something I'm working on.

I have practically no friends. The ones that I have laugh at me behind my back.
My friends aren't the greatest, but all in all they are cool to hang around with. I imagine as I get older I may lose touch with some of them, but who knows, I may miss them aome day. ,


I have been bullied from like second grade and cause of that I started skipping school and my grades slipped , I don't even know how I managed to graduate from the ninth grade.... Some kids are dickheads, but I won't have to deal with them anymore.

I am addicted to the perscription pills and without them I am so insecure and edgy that I practically can't leave the house. Thats probably the result of me getting bullied alot. I take pills right now, but ultimately I'd like to get off them. I don't know that they do too much for me.

I am only 169cm/5,7 tall and wear glasses. This is not a joke I must be the most pathetic GN'R fan ever. Yeah, I'm short, and I like a band who hasn't come out with an album in 15 years, but it's not that bad. There are people with greater physical handicaps than me. After all, I'm in good health. Also, I could be a fan of a shitty band, like Godsmack or Creed.

What is emo? Seriously I wanna know. And don't be a prick and answer "you are" or something similar. Plus how do you guys/girls think that I am not taking your advice? I appreciate all the positive feedback more than you might think. I am not coming up with pathetic excuses, I just wanted to tell all of this to someone..... ? I know it's pathetic to whine about your problems on the internet but I really don't have anybody else to tell. Besides most of the advice isn't ?exactly easy to take or atleast it takes time to put it all in good use. OK I try not to post in this thread anymore until my life gets better.

it won't get better tomorrow or the next week, you know...
as you said...it takes time. you goptta change your attitude first of all. this is the most important. and then everything else will come by itself. just be patient because it won't be easy. you will have bad days from now on and you'll feel even worse than before. it doesn't matter. just fight. you're doing it for yourself.
btw...we really wanna help ou and as long as we're reading your posts it means that we don't think you're "a pathetic looser"who's complaining about his personal problems on a message bord. you can post everything you want ( in the rigth section of course? :hihi: ), we're friends? : ok:

Alright, I'm gunna try ONE MORE TIME, and after that, if you don't buck up your attitude Mister... I'm done.

I can't explain emo... if I do, I'll end up ranting, so your best bet is to look on Wikipedia. (look, I'm so nice, here's Wikipedia's link: http://www.wikipedia.org/ )
Right, you're saying you do appreciate our advice. Well... if you TRULY appreciate it, prove it. Give us a positive post saying to us that you'll try and get off the pills and be happier... but only if you mean it, because if you don't mean it, there's no point.

Step By Step, here's what to do:

1. Get off the pills. It will take time, and it'll be hard and gruelling, but you CAN do it. Remember, there is no such thing as "I can't". Yes you CAN!

2. Stop caring so much what your friends think. You're 18, and lets face it, they are NOT going to be your friends for the rest of your life. Just hang out with them and go along with thinking that everything is cool. You'll be happier for it.

3. Don't stay up all night crying your eyes out. Yes, that IS pathetic. Do something CONSTRUCTIVE with your time. Read a good book, draw, paint, have a decent conversation, write a story, write a SONG, take up the guitar and learn, practise, have a wank, look at porn, whatever, just DON'T THINK NEGATIVE THOUGHTS!

4. Forget about doing anything with a woman until you sort yourself out. Women need love, and you can't love anyone if you don't love yourself.

5. The Golden Rule: DO NOT GIVE UP. DO NOT SAY "I can't be bothered". If at first you don't succeed, TRY TRY AGAIN!


There. No more advice from me until you prove to us all that you actually are gunna take it!

And there's no way I'm gunna be all "Awwww its okaaaaaay!" BULLSHIT because that is just wrong and it'll make you continue being the way you are now: Pathetic.

... and to everyone else: I don't give a shit if I'm being too harsh! The kid has gotta learn!!

No offense, but SkynyrdGirl is right.

There is that time in life where just got to leave your rough past behind, grow some balls and start making choices for yourself. No matter what, there is always going to be somebody you meet that doesn't like you. So get used to criticism and try looking at yourself in the mirror and say something like"No matter what, I am fucking cool and nothing bothers me." Liking yourself sometimes is something you have to force to make happen.

Dude........about the whole fearing women thing....it's nothing to fear man seriously.  Get that fear shit out of your head.  Women are nothing to be afraid of initiall (when you're married and she's bitching about you forgetting to pick up milk on the way home, then be afraid) but until then fuck it.  What you need to do is go to a strip club.......get comfortable around women (I know it sounds sleazy, but it'll curb your fear)....usually they'll make small talk with you to get a lap dance......just throw $20 out and get a lap dance, she'll talk to you, make you feel all warm etc.  Then go out and try to chat it up with some hoodrat on the street.  Seriously man, don't be afraid to talk to women....most won't just come up to you and start talking, you gotta initiate it.  If you find a taker, ask her out and do that whole bit.  If they see you as a whiney cry-baby, they're not gonna bite back, but you gotta have confidence.  So what if you wear glasses......get contacts.  Unless you're wearing some old school Louis Scholnik glasses from ROTN, it's probably not a big deal.  I wear glasses when my contacts bother me and I've actually gotten compliments on them.  I bought a cheap frame at Lenscrafter that was thin and sleek looking and I enjoy them.  Don't blame that stuff man, you gotta have confidence. 

you're good enough, you're smart enough, and, doggonit, people like you!

This was one of the funniest commentaries I've read yet : ok:

Ok I haven't read though the 6 pages. But i'll give you some advice.

Look people who make fun of you behind your back aren't your friends.

Don't listen to what people say. Just take every day at a time. Your alive, the sun rises the sun sets.

As for getting bullied. You know what. Don't take that shit. You have to stick up for yourself even if that results in getting your ass kicked. People these days tell kids to tell an adult or a teacher or principal. These people do shit. You know what you do. Instead of taking the shit. Next time someone bullies you regardless if you are in the hall, class, the cafeteria, or prinicipals office, assembly. Punch the fucker in the face as hard as you can. They will think twice about bugging you next time. You might get suspended, you might not you can explain why you did that shit. Its self respect. Don't let someone ever bug you. But also don't go postal. Thats not cool.

I am not saying violence is the answer. But seriously if these people bug you and shit you gotta stick up for yourself. And punching the person in the face will make them think twice. Sure you could get beat back. But its better to do something then just let it continue.

Now not kissing a girl thats alright man. I didn't kiss a girl till I was 18. I didnt lost my virginity till I was 22. So don't sweat about that.

I recommend getting off the prescription pills. I suppose you might live in the states , but you  should see a doctor or something about that. Here in Canada our healthcare is pretty much free.

But take up Boxing, Karate or self defense. And don't let people bully you. I want to see you fucking punch this person in the face. Also no such thing as fair fighting so if you have to kick them in the balls first and then punch in the face go for it.

Being a teenager might seem tough but you'll get out of the end of the world phase. High School is a joke, but get your education. Work hard, get some self respect. Don't worry for things to happen just let them come naturally.

I hope I can help if you need some advice you can pm me.

Hopefully people here have helped you out.


- Jimmer

Dude, if someone uses verbal abuse, its sensible to ignore it, indeed it hurts possibly but losers are those who go round dissing people because they're bored and cant find anything productive to do in their lives. If someone tries to take a hit at you then rage back at em physically. If they want to start a physical fight but dont actually attack you dont bother.

i just left school, last week ^.^ and i got abuse all the way through because i like rock music and guys with long hair. called every name under the sun, not usually very original i can tell you that. but i dont care less what they say or think of me, because what i think of them is far worse. they can have they're opinion because at the end of the day it means nothign to me. only time i got really pissed was when some cow dedcided o 'kick off' and woudltn take it when i todl her to fuck off, and she hit me. well grabbe dmy hair  ::) just to try and look tough in front of her 'mates', and i kicked that frizzy bitch's ass. OWNED. all those people can go to hell, because they are shit people and i dont care less what they say. you've gotta be the bigger person and laugh at them, because most of it is pretty funny lol it makes you a much stronger and tolerant perosn in the end anwyay.

I can totally relate. Today I was called a fag, shithead and something that I didn'tquite understand(probably some insult misspronounced). But those guys almost always say this to me when they are with a lot of friends usually 5-8 so, if I would say something back they would do something worse like blocking my way or throw something at me. See I don't have any real friends and I am quite weak myself so I got nothing to do, but swallow what they say to me. But you know it hurts inside really bad  :no:  Sometimes I have thought about beating one of them a pulp when they are alone,  but I still want to leave the house so.....

i never used to have anyone. i went to highschool, made some friends, 2 girls, they ganged up on me and just used me really, and i was pretty weak then. i remember when it was one of their birthdays and us 3 went to the pictures and stayed at her house. we were 11-12 then. and i remember they were snotty to me all night, like they just invited me along for someone to be mean to for their own amusment. i told them to stop being cows, i ended up havign a fight with both of them. and i went home and cried so much because i knew the next day in school would be hell. i ended up making friends with some other girls, was goign pretty well untill this other girl started hanging round with us, she turned them all against me, now their the people that shout abuse at me. then i was hanging round with people that were allmates and i was just...there. apparently they always used ot bitch about me aswell. but i was glad of the company so that i wasnt on my own and i could atleast pretend that i had friends.
i was so down. but i've finally made real friends, sometimes we argue, and yeha sometimes we'll btihc, but we're girls and girls are btiches, no matter how much i hate it lol. but they're real friends who will be there for me and stand up for me, someone who i can finally talk to lol. and it felt so incredible at first, before them i felt worthless, if someone was nice to me i'd think "wtf? why are they talking to me?" but now i feel like no1 has the right to talk to me like shit. and that everyone should be nice to everyone and no1 is too good to talk to anyone.
how old are you btw?
but just keep going, because oneday you will find people that are assed about you, and are good friends. and i'm glad in a way that it happened, because i am a stronger person for it, and i'm not like them.
and i also relate to the just wanting to beat one to a pulp. one girl decides to try and start a rumour that i had head lice. (which i didnt btw =P) and i was so temtped to take her overstraighten bleache dblonde pony tail and rag her head into the fence then kick her to the floor. i wanted to put my head against hers and say "looks like you'll have headlice now". but i didnt. and in some ways i'm glad i suppose haha even though i cant stand her.

ey dude, girl, ewokman or whatever.

you gott astop caring.
and if you feel uncomfortable with your looks make it your "thing".
if you hear stuff about being ugly, my god, then you shall be the ugliest person on earth.
but with style.
like quasimodo.

ok. forget it.

let all shit drip of and stop caring and do your own race not caring about the rest.

are you guys making up all these stories or does it really happen ?

you gotta be exagerating ....

I haven't made anything up that I have said in this thread. Although I can understand that it's hard to believe for someone who has not experienced something similar. And for sesor i am 18.

This is getting soooooo boring! Just suck it up, and take it on the chin already!! WHO CARES if someone calls you a fag! YOU know you ain't a fag, so it shouldn't fucking hurt!

Rocksteady... I hate to say this, but its true what you said about yourself in the title of this thread. You are pathetic! You made this thread so people would go "oh, you'll be OK!" or "Aww no you're not!" and "of course you ain't!".

Well fuck that! We've all given our advice, and you just won't take it. You won't even TRY to take it, or give us any SIGN that you'll try.

I've had it with trying to help you Rocksteady. You don't WANT help, you just want comfort. If you really wanted help you'd take our advice and quit complaining already! You'd quit burdening us with yet MORE stories of your fake friends calling you "fag" and you being weak. You just gotta be as negative as you possibly can don't you! You just can't even begin to think of being happy! You LIKE being negative because you get attention from it! And that is pathetic!

End of.

Lock this thread already!

Dear Mods,
Sorry if I broke any rules, but this guy really is asking for it! I've given my advice several times, and he won't take it, and this post is the result of my frustration!

i havnt replied to this topic purely because of the topic title it annoys me every time i see it i want to post YES but that wouldnt be fair

So please it does seem there is no helping this guy so yeah do us a favor and lock it ;D

Yo listen up. Did I post "another story" about me in this thread? No! I just replied to someone else. And if you are sick of me or this thread then stop posting in here. To be honest I am quite sick of you too.  And what fuckin sign do you want me to show to you anyway huh? It's not like I can snap my fingers and everything will change. Yes I am pathetic that's what I said in the first post of this thread and I haven't denied it!!! And when did I asked for advice? Clearly you have gotten things rather easy in your life, well to some it ain't that way. And if I had said "Your advice was great everything seems much better now" would it have boosted your ego? Stop being a bitch, did anyone force you to write a single line in this thread? I think not. So what are you complaining about exactly, cant stand that people have harder time than you?

good lord.. are you kidding me? that doesn't qualify as "pathetic"... pathetic = random homeless people who get on a subway train only to dance a gig and ask for your money

I can relate... I'm almost 21 and I'm also ALMOST a virgin... so what? although my situation is probably that I'm so self-absorbed that its a turn-off to many women...

and come on, you post on a GNR forum... when I went to the NYC May 15th show and stood in line with many of the HTGTH and mygnr folk... I realized that most of the fans are either raving lunatics or complete losers... so what? I still enjoyed talking to them about the band and about Axl and whatnot.

well that sums us all up a treat dont you think

Got me to a T

On the 17th we had some crazy fans.

I was being I guess you know annoyed.

But I loosened up.

I was like you know what its some what funny that this one guy is quoting Axl Rose from Rock In Rio 3 "Saying fuck head go home".

But i'll just you know not be a bitch and not judgemental and talk to people if they talk to me. So the person and I was with talked to some dudes and girls.

They werent bad at all. So it pays not to be judgemental sometimes. Some people might look obsessed. But I guess they arent. I however will never wear a bands t shirt to their concert though.

I suppose some people thought I was a prep in my blazer and jeans but you know what don't judge a book by its cover.

With regards to dude.

I hope you've taken some of my advice. (thats dude who thinks hes pathetic)

it could of been worse you could of been wearing a t shirt for another artist or band say like "snoop dog or something" :rofl:

nah seriously thats the place you expect to see band and group t shirts especially the group thats playing just dont go to a gnr concert wearing a funeral for my bullet shirt you might get lynched by a certain group of people

Wow - nice one dude.? You actually took everyone's advice and stood up for yourself!

Remember, if someone's being a dick to you (like SkynyrdGirl was) don't put up with it.? Show them why you deserve better.  You've just proved to me that you can do it so take this as a lesson and use it in the real world.? Don't start fights that you're never gonna win but also don't be afraid to stand up for yourself.? Next time your friends make fun of you, show them that they've got you all wrong.

Whatever's happened in the past doesn't matter, change your ways now and things will get better. :)

how can SkynyrdGirl be a dick?

transvestite warning. :-X

I didn't mean a walking, talking dick.  That would just be silly (and very funny).  If you take it literally then it wouldn't make sense when talking about a guy either.  You know what I meant. :P

a hero :-*

From a zero to a hero  :hihi:

FINALLY! You stood up for yourself dude!  :beer:

That's actually the sign I was looking for... because before you snapped... you seemed to have no fight in you at all except in your head. Glad to see that ain't the case. :yes:

Sometimes you gotta be cruel to be kind. Sorry for being dickish, but it was what you needed! : ok:

make them see that you dont give a shit then you wont be a target. like all this has just shown lol

Look at SkynyrdGirl making out like it was all part of her master plan. :rofl:

Hey, at least the guy finally grew some balls. Now all he needs is a girlfriend, so she can nag & complain in his ear all day like SkynyrdGrl did.  ;D 

And how do you know that it wasn't? *smug look with raised eyebrow* :smoking: :beer:

Aw pull the other one mate it's got bells on.

Well fine... that's your choice whether you want to believe me or not... but really... who cares? Either way it got Rock(un)steady to finally grow some cajones and grab life by the horns! :)

I would n't go that far, this is merely the internet after all, it's easy to talk the talk and yell abuse here, but in reality will what you said really have changed anything for him?

Well its definitely an improvement... before he retaliated he just posted wimpy shit about bullies' comments hurting him inside and all that.

So now he's actually stood up for himself, perhaps he'll put that to practise in the REAL world...

... well he'd better or I'll have to commandeer his lunch money... :hihi:

Nerds Make Better Lovers


It?s one of the biggest misconceptions in dating, and it?s time to get it out in the open for good. The so-called ?cool? men and women out there aren?t half as good in the sack as their ?nerdier? counterparts. Nerds not only have the brains, but they also have the most powerful possession of all, the love touch. These guys and gals have taken the time to do their homework, and they?ve mastered the geography, chemistry and mathematical formulas of how to make your body scream. Ready to smarten up and become the ultimate seducer? Then put away those shades and pick up a pocket protector because your about to get lesson 101 in love.

Nerds Take the Time to Research
Study yourself: Nix the neediness and get to know yourself inside and out.

Start Inside:
Being unhappy with your life is not a good reason to get into a relationship. No matter how ?perfect? another person may seem to be, they will never be able to fill the empty holes in your life. The only person that has the power to do that is you.

Work your way outside:
There?s a reason the so-called four-eyed dweebs aced biology and anatomy class. Sex and health experts agree the best way to become better at using your body is by taking the time to learn how it works. Set aside some private time for self-gratification and figure out how your body works and responds to sexual stimulation.

Nerds Have a Much Bigger Hard Drive
Not only do nerds take the time to listen to their partners, but they also mentally take notes, remember and are able to retrieve the information at the most opportune moments. The best way to make your partner feel sexy, sensual, wanted and larger than life is to listen to him or her. Because most of the world rarely gives you its devoted attention, imagine how special you?ll feel when one individual does.

Nerds are Passionate about Learning
Nerds tend to be encyclopedias of information. They ask the who, what, why and where about everything and anything. It?s both fascinating and exhilarating to be around passionate individuals. Take the time to study and learn new things because knowledge is just plain sexy.

A hot body might get you in the door, but eventually, what meets the eye will fade. It?s important to add depth and substance to your personality. The hottest, most intense relationships are the ones with people you can really talk to, laugh with and learn from every day.

Nerds are Smart about Finding Love
Make the Odds Fall in Your Favor:
It is true that you may get lucky at any moment, but the best way to stop it from occurring is to wait for it to happen.

Increase your chances of getting and finding what you want by going to the right places. While you won?t always end up in the winners' circle, you will, at least, give yourself a fair shot.

These days, technology has made it easier than ever to find like-minded singles. Millions of people have met their life partners by using dating sites.

Don?t like computers? Get involved in something you like. Join a sports league, sign up for a wine-tasting class, volunteer, say yes to invitations from friends. Just get yourself out there. Yes, you may feel like a big nerd at first, but that is exactly the point!

*Nerd Tip*
Don?t look for a hot, fun, no-strings-attached date in the library. Be smart about what you want and then determine the best place to get it. If you want more casual fun, go to a bar or nightclub.

Nerds Study and Are Not Afraid to Ask Questions
If you want to be successful in both your long-term and short-term romantic relationships, then learn how to study your partner.

Pay attention to how they like to be kissed. What makes them blush, what makes their eyes widen with excitement, what types of movies do they enjoy? Use these details to determine what types of things turn them on.

Once you?ve made it inside the bedroom, don?t be afraid to ask questions. Ask them if they like it slow, fast, hard, soft, on top, bottom, left, right or in the middle. If they are shy about questions, then be subtle about it. For example, after you?ve kissed them in a certain place, pay attention to how they react. Then in a sensual or playful whisper, ask them if they enjoyed it. Make sure to teach them what you like and don?t like. Remember, you will never ace the test if you don't ask questions and learn the right answers.
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Don't know if that help...I read all the thread and all that
let me tell you this man...
I'm 17, I had a problem when I was born, because of that I had to use canes for walk since 3 years old...
beliveme it's hard... pretty hard to live with that and pretend that nothing is wrong
Ii had friends and all that stuff but it's hard..
but you know... I can get up and go uotside... I did all taht
I pass for hard times n' I'm still passing them....
beliveme it's so fucking hard to live in the world if you are not "cool" or whatever...

but there's allways a door... an opend door for us...
think about that man...
you can always be worst than now...
see this problem like I jump....
if you JUMPE you can fall... and that hurts... a lot... but you can always climb up again...

and if you daree yourself you can jump and you can fly and that rules
don't be afriad
nothing can go wrong if you want to
you don't need nothing or nobody... you just need you. and that's all

I'd put my dick in Skynrd girl.

Are we allowed to say that?

No.

Now Rocksteady, THAT is pathetic!!  : ok:


{She is a hottie though}

I can't believe this thread went to 7 pages . it is pretty obvious that this Rocksteady dude is full of shit  and is just pulling all your legs .  I was able to figure this one out on the first post .    He's just trying to get a reaction from everybody,  I don't think there are many losers that will go on a message board and admit they have a problem. Most of them think they are living productive lives  that is what makes them a loser .   He even put a Star Wars avatar  to go with his story lol  Hilarious .

But he's not confident about himself like Yoda is though. I mean, he's always giving padawan learners advice.

FUCK YOU!!! You can believe whatever you want, but that doesn't mean it's true. Yes I like star wars and yes I have Yoda on my avatar. Does this equal being a loser in your book? And the bs about not admitting the problem and thinking that you are living a productive life,well that's the geeks you know from the movies. But if it makes you feel any better then continue to believe that you are a human lie detector or whatever.

oh shit what the fuck does that make me  :crying:

Yes, Anything you ARE pathetic :hihi: j/k

Okay, it's good to stand up for yourself but let's not exaggerate, eh?

Don't stop him now, he's on a role!


I can't understand why people are still doubting Rocksteady.? At first I thought he might be taking the piss but I gave up thinking that on like page 3.


Yo, what better place is there to ask advice about this kind of thing without having anyone you know find out about it?? I can't believe you think people don't realise when they're losers (man, I hate that word).? If you're getting called a loser and getting bullied and don't even trust your friends then i'm sure most people would know that something's wrong.


Rocksteady - things will definately get better for you.? At least you're smarter than that guy. :hihi:



(Edit: Cause if Rocksteady shouts out *psyche* now i'm gonna look like a right tool)

Danny, you're totally an MC edit-master!


I wouldn't call it exaggeration. A boy getting a bit carried away, maybe... But that's all good! Everything in excess! If it's good enough for the Romans...

... Err..........................

As for MC Pedestal supposadly being able


, well. You know what they say, don't you?

... :).........

... Seriously though, do you? Because I haven't got a clue.

I do. But I'm not telling.

i know a couple of ppl that would f*** you

Dude, lay off the guy a bit, he's already in a rough state as it is. I'm sure he doesn't want to add to that by going to prison for having sex with a minor.

Note: MC No-Confidence, if you do decide to take never miss(es the point)69 up on his offer, be sure to read his above post VERY carefully..................

I read through it twice.  I don't get it.. :-\

... Not once did never miss(es the point)69 mention that he knows any women that would f*** DJ Yoda....................

meh i sucked with girls.

i hadnt had a girl friend or kissed anyone.

im 15, then in late march, by luck i met someone just through circumstance, i was actually ment to be having a go at her but like i met her and i liked her and fast forward in time and we have been going out nearly 4 months....

it doesnt matter if you suck, youll bump into someone it happens always.

dont worry about not being with someone. relationships suck anyways  :rant:

math is hard for me to but all you got to do is make friends with the smart ppl and sit by them and cheat your way that is what do in math

dont worry they dont bite..................................





too hard

Ok, here's some advice by me.

If the doctors ordered you some anti-deps, take them, since all the shit you're going through I think you need something to keep your serotone (or whatever) level in limits. I know what I'm talking about, since I've taken those for sometime now and they help me to keep my depressions in check. I've been too close to the edge when there was too much I couldn't handle and these pills actually made it better.

Yeah, I won't take them forever, but first I'll get the basics in my life right.

But anyway dude, all you need is a little confidence.

If you stop taking them, you're going to hit rockbottom since your brain is used to have them.

rocksteady you sexy beast, i'll be your girlfirdend even if i am watsed right now

Well it's been like over 2 years since my last post in this topic. And you know what, nothing has gotten better! Infact some things have gotten worse: I had a death in the family, now I don't have absolutely no friends, my eyes are even more fucked up and the pills won't help anymore even when taken with alcohol. Ain't life a bitch? Oh and CD is still "on the horizon".

did you try to make it better?

What the fuck is with these people whining about their life and when asked if any, and I mean any, steps were taken to make things better and there weren't. Wohoo, insert slacker prize here.

So are you waiting for a miracle? For mom to make things right? if you want to conquer a mountain you need to climb it, if you need a pack of smokes you have to go outside and buy it.

Sure, life's a bitch sometimes and even I've had my share of tough spots and quite frankly I even had some thought of what's the point with all of this. In the end they are my tough spots, I got things to that point and there's no one other than me to get me out and I did. By deciding to do something other than complain.

What's with the eyes? Too much masturbating is bad, for what I've heard. Can't know for sure tho, but I'll email D and ask him if he got any other problem than the hairy palms.

So here's my advice. Step up and decide the first thing you wanna change, for an example make a friend and maybe it's not something you can accomplish over night, but people are social things so it isn't imposible. Go to some festival or use the net.

Also this cut&paste merge and mix shit gotta go with the pills and alcohol.

Now I'm not saying cut off alcohol, but it sure sounds like you're using it as buffer instead of taking it while having a good time.

Yeah I tried to make it better as a matter of fact  :o I had a friend, we we're never best buddies in the world he had other friends the types who hassled me at school etc. So I tried to be cool with him we played some footie together and stuff. And I helped him with his schoolwork from time to time. I dropped out after 9nth grade but he was in high school. Everything was cool almost exactly until he graduated... I have never heard of him since. There was another old friend(a dropout like me) who I tried to get along and things were also quite okay untile he grew like 3 inches taller in a year and got a girlfriend, then he started to think it wasn't cool to hang out with me anymore. The last I saw him was when I loaned him money, not much, but I haven't seen him since either.

About getting a girl, well I'm 5,7, wear glasses and I'm not good looking either. Girls usually laugh at me and say something like "there goes "that" guy". I guess that I'm not confident enough either, but well how could I be after years of rejection?

I don't know about the eyes, my vision just keeps getting worse. Has been getting since I was in the 1'st grade.

atleast the girls notice you.

So ok, those friends sucked but it's no your whole life, now is it?


I could. I'm sure you can, too.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean...

You sound depressed and you should probably see a doctor about it before it gets even worse.  :-\

You might think you're not good looking but they'll be people with different opinions,with such low confidence you're bound to feel that way.I suffer from low confidence aswell so know what it's like.About the glasses,could you not wear contact lenses?I'm supposed to wear glasses but don't cos i don't think they suit me.I just have to keep squinting my eyes when i'm trying to look at something far away lol

Ive learned people generally dont notice as much as you think they do. People always assume they are the the center of the universe and that everyone in the world takes notice of their every imperfection. this is definitely not the case. the truth is people are too busy worrying about themselves.

I started university a couple years ago and it was far away from where I live. Ive had the same core group of friends since kindergarten and now I was completely separated from all of them.

It was here that I realized I had no idea how to meet new people because I never had to before. It sucked for the first week or two but I forced myself out of my comfort zone and started making new friends. It felt uncomfortable at first but now Ive met some really interesting people.

If you are uncomfortable and awkward, it will make other people feel the same way around you

Get your GED (High School Diploma).

Get to college.

It all gets MUCH better from there, IMHO.  In HS, you play all the petty, crappy, social politic games.  A whole lot of that goes away when you get to college....all those social castes that got built up over the ensuing 12+ years get blown to hell.  And it becomes a whole lot less about what you look like, what sports you play, and what clothes you wear and a whole lot more about what you bring to the table as a person.   I know...it sounds cliche'.  But it's certainly holds water with what I've seen and experienced.  Ditto if you're hanging with the "townies".....you'll almost always be pigeonholed by many of those who "knew you back then"...until you rape their expectations of you.

Oh, and on the drugs:  If you're getting them from a therapist, stick with them til they tell you to stop.  If you're taking them for recreation (and want to stop) or are self medicating...get some help and talk to a professional.  It'll help...tons. 

There's nothing wrong with my body, I work out everyday. I'm short not fat or weak. But I'd rather be tall and fat.

And I will never get the HS Diploma until they make math optional(which will never happen ofcourse). I mean everything else is like a freaking walk in a park and bam! ultra-complicated stuff that you never need in real life anyway, well maybe except in some specific line of work. I have taken extra classes and stuff but it didn't help much. It was a miracle that I was able to finish 9nth grade at all. And most of my other grades were fives or fours(As or Bs). I fucking hate math  >:(

Relax man...your day will come. Try to find something of interest where you can meet other people--maybe a club at school or do some charity work.

There are people who can help you with Math. I failed Math until I stopped telling myself I hated it, and started putting in the effort. It is easy once you get the hang of it, I promise. Just stop seeing it as this huge problem.

As for the other stuff - wearing glasses doesn't make you ugly.

If you don't come across as awkward or needy people would stop treating you that way.

Pilferk is right...as usual.  Read his post and re-read his post until it sinks in.  Good luck.   :peace:

have you at least kissed a girl yet?

Since he's writing this kind of things in a forum is the most pathetic guy on Earth (sorry, don't want to offense but that's what I see)

that doesn't sound so pathetic to me.

I'm 5,9 myself, my friend is 5,6 and it's sure was a barrel of fun when he pressed a guy who tried to fight me to a wall.

Just the look of it, since the guy was taller than 5,9

Also my friend would've had a ton of girls if he wouldn't be so wasted late at night.

Then again he's seeing someone so it doesn't mind.

EDIT: rocksteady, post your pic so we can close the are you ugly chapter

Nope.
Well yeah I suppose..     But I don't cut myself, that's something positive.I honestly have only one pic of myself in my comp and that's about 5 years old. I  had a lot of pimples and zits
then and I have changed overall a bit too I guess. Besides what if someone recognizes me? I would be in even more trouble. Yeah i'ts cowards talk I know, but I guess I am one then. Although it's not very probable that I someone I know is checking out these boards. One of the reasons I have never fitted in I guess, most people I know listen to trance, while my favourite bands are most always been, GN'R, Metallica, Nirvana, RATM, The Offspring, Pantera, Smashing Pumpkins etc.

Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses.  You just gotta work through them.  I know the low self esteem doesn't help you in that department, but you gotta find a way to tough it out.  Ruts are REALLY not fun to be stuck in, :)

Is there opportunity for "extra help" or taking a more remedial level in math, just to get your degree?  Considering your grades, otherwise, I'm thinking you can find some support services that would get you through the worst of it.  Heck, in our school, you could substitute things like accounting for the "strict maths" like algebra and calc...not sure if they allow that in your neck of the woods.

Fuck it here's my ugly mug, just remember it's about 5 years old pic. And I don't know what the hell is with those white kinda areas on my face, light perhaps kinda falling from a weird angle. Can't remember maybe it was something else.
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2h66o40.jpg)

Me in all my Gory.

wtf, you're a liar  :rant: that aint an ugly bro!  :D

that guy has intense eyes and pretty much perfect fkn eyebrows


fuck i had worse acne problems when i was like 10-15

And you r the exact kind of person who makes him feel the way he does.  Someone reaches out to others and that makes him pathetic, and your sorry for being spineless I know ::).

wtf i thought you would be hideous from the way you described yourself :hihi:

i had skin like that when i was 16-17 and even though its more or less clear now, im still really self concious about it. i freak out every time i get a single zit so i know how you feel.

after seeing your pic though your problem is your attitude 100% cuz theres nothing wrong with your appearance :yes:

Personally I don't find you unatractive at all. I think you need to do some soul searching. Try to find out what it is that will make you feel better about yourself, starting with what you feel is your worst issue, work your way down the list, no matter what it takes to conquer your worst feelings, make it your goal and your only goal to overcome each and every one, one day at a time.  Only you and you alone have the power to make change over yourself, you are responsible for you, you have to find the strength to fix what you are not liking, and you must circle yourself around the most positive people, for they will help give you strength to help you find what ever it is you are searching for.  In the end, hopefully you will have conquered all your demons.

As far as your education is concerned, college is most definately a more mature atmosphere where people are not there to play the drama game. You might think about trying that route if indeed you would like to finish educating yourself, and that in itself will take a load of pressure off you.  You musn't sit at home and do nothing except think, I would be miserable doing that myself, you may find trying to get out and circulate will offer you less time to think about negative issues you feel you are facing.

As mentioned previously, If you are under a docs care for meds, stick with it, if you r not comfortable with the treatment you are recieving and are not feeling any better, there are other meds, one will work for you, and there is also always a second opinions, they don't hurt either.  If you r just addicted to meds off of the street, well let my say that that is probably one of your major issues, as you are hiding behind a mask daily, self medicating will only make your pain worse, especially as they are probably downers, get away from that it is not doing you any favors.

Last but not least I wish you lots of luck in the future, and I hope you find whatever it is you are searching for. ;)

Dude. Ok. I'm a cougar and I would do you in a heartbeat but I have a husband and kids now. You are depressed because you don't have direction in your life and you think everyone else's direction is pointed at you.

Get your GED - truthfully unless you come from billions of dollars, it is really going to matter. Screw math - first off you can get a tutor, second, if you combine all the grades together, I don't think math will affect your overall GPA by that much in order to screw you out of graduating. You will be sooo pissed at your self if you don't do this.

Go to a trade school - explore your interests. You don't have to go into higher education at a college - there are so many other things you could do.

And screw people who judge you based on your looks - maybe they are talking about the fact that you dropped out - not that you are bad looking. The best revenge is success. You should go back and get the damn GED.

There is way more to a person than looks. I had to take super baby deforming drug Accutance because my acne was so bad, I started to get pock marks but didn't want that to happen so I took the chance of going on this drug to get rid of the acne - I had to do it twice!!!! And it took me another ten years to get lasik surgery so I wouldn't have to wear my glasses anymore but I never did mind them - I got sick of them breaking when I got drunk.

and you need to find some new friends in your area that like the kinds of things you like - everyone here is right - get out and get in. I can't believe you cannot find friends who like the same music? All the bands you named are pretty killer.

And finally, get off the prescription meds - they are a mask - you are hiding from yourself - they are downers and they are really damn dangerous - I know a friend whose daughter mixed one pain killer with alcohol and died. The friend was devastated. The truth is we really don't know how strong our bodies are really and you don't want to test the limits one day and have someone find you without a pulse. I am learning a lot about how drugs effect your body and you really don't want to mess.

Everyone here is right - don't listen to negativity - Jarmo won't allow it - and take the advice. And then please let us know how you are doing. You can't say it won't work unless you try and you can't try if you sit and complain or feel sorry for yourself.

Seriously, dude, at your age now, I bet you are sizzin :peace:

I'm hot and I'd bang you, Rocksteady. You're not ugly at all.

Did you ever think that the people who call you ugly are UGLY THEMSELVES!!?!

I don't know where you live, but I'm sure there are rock shows where you live.  You can go to shows and make friends, maybe even meet a girl!

Get your diploma, find a job.

Save up some money and move to a better part of the world.

A fine example of great self esteem!! ;D :) ;)

Chin up brother. I'm 28 and in this exact same situation and taking anti depressants to deal with it. Things will look up man. You're still a young bastard haha.

^ and girls laugh at everyone. thats just what they do.

sitting there giggling at people passing by, just givem a smack in the mouth :hihi:



.......just kidding dont do that

I'm always amazed by stuff like this.  Hearing you say you are ugly is like watching anorexic chicks on death's door saying they are fat!

Like a lot of folks your age, you're concerned with the wrong things.  Looks are fleeting.  We all get old (if we're lucky).
Go out and help those that are less fortunate.  Find yourself by serving others.  Just a suggestion.

A lot of us here have been through times like this.  You're not alone.  Get laughing and help those that are less fortunate than yourself...because trust me, there are lots of folks out there less fortunate than you.  : ok:

Well said Axl4Prez :)

Some friends of mine were in London this weekend. Long story short they saw a couple of horseback cops and wanted to take a picture with them. The one guy stood between the horses while they both looked at him, which of course makes for a great picture. As they were about to shoot a local bloke walkes by, referring to my friend:

The horse looks better!

That may in fact be true. Still, he's been kissed, laid and even had girlfriends.

Moral to this story? Girls ain't necessarily all that picky, so don't sweat it.
 

awesome how this thread died when he posted the pic on hjimself, i guess he realized that he aint ugly :)

yeah, he killed the self-esteem of 'em.

"if he can't get laid, how will we ever?!"

lol

It would be nice to know that we helped him out just a little.  Maybe he's making some changes as we speak and will be back to share them with us shortly.  I wish him luck, nobody should be feeling that way, it's just not right. :(

Never:

1) Feel sorry for yourself

2) Compare yourself to others

3) Make excuses

Do:

1) Immediately quit your pills and/or seek help

2) Get your GED and go to Jr College

1) That's really easier said than done.

2) That's kinda absurd, how would anyone know if they are good/bad if they don't compare themselves to others?

3) I once said It's all my fault, people said "you shouldn't be so hard on yourself!"


1) I have been seeking, help! This thread alone should be evidence enough. Besides that I have seen like 6-7 different psychiatrists. First one was about 8 years ago. Quitting any kind off pills immediately can end badly and is very painful, basically it gets a lot worse before it gets better(if it does get better at all). I have been through this twice, I know what I'm talking about.

2) I have explaind my math problem probably too many times(sorry guys). And there is no mixing your grades together where I live. There are exams and you can't fail them if you want to graduate HS. Besides high school is 3 years of something what would probably be very hard for me. OK making excuses again sorry I'm too much of a pussy to bring myself to relive my past nightmares sorry, just ain't got the balls.

Says you. You choose to feel sorry for yourself. Nobody can control the way you think or feel, except you.




Why should you bother?

Unhappiness is a result of your comparisons. Therefore I'd recommend that you no longer do it. It allows you to feel sorry for yourself (see 1 above.)

A healthy exercise would be to compare yourself to somebody less fortunate than yourself. This will allow you to learn the art of thankfulness, which is the key element to happiness.




Making excuses in regard to growth was my point.

 Taking responsibility for your actions is something else altogether. You should always take responsibility for your actions, never lie to yourself, and quit making excuses. It is your perception of life that keeps you from being happy. Denial of that, is an excuse. Failure to address it, is also an excuse.




Seeking help on an internet forum is not going to yield the results you require.

I am well aware the physical ramifications of drug withdrawal. That is why I would recommend you get off drugs as quickly as possible. Kicking now will be much easier than kicking them in jail when your 29, or 33 when you've already ruined your life. You telling me "that you know what you're talking about" and how difficult it is, is not taking action, it is an excuse to do nothing. What are you doing about it currently? I would recommend a 12 step program immediately and seeking clinic if there is a chance of substantial physical withdrawal/complications.



Yesterday is over. Tomorrow is tomorrow. Today is all you have.

What happened yesterday is irrelevant as you can not change it. Dwelling on it will do you no good.

Have you attempted math tutoring?

Let me ask you something: Has your perception of life worked for you so far? You seem unhappy, enough so to start a thread about it to a complete group of strangers. Why then would you attack the advice provided to you?

All you are doing right now is fighting change. Fighting the way you think about things. Self pity is an much easier route, I'll give you that. But it'll still make you completely unhappy.

Alright I'm an insecure, cowardly self pitying asshole. I'm afraid of change cause it can hurt me like things have in the past. But most of all I'm angry at those who have made me what I am today, jealous of those who have it well (sometimes the same poeople) and I do have attempted math tutoring! But yeah basically I'm a horrible person, I have very few good qualities left in me and they are fading. Sore loser? Maybe but I have never won!

You say you are afraid of change cuz it may hurt you, yet you are already hurting, if you could change that negative you are already enduring and make it a positive it would seem that the end result would be most rewarding. Pretty much everyone in the world gets up and puts their jeans on the same way every morning, the majority do what it takes to survive, a percentage do much more and some even less. It is really about what you want in this life, you go after it, stop at nothing til you get it, you don't crumble cuz something gets in the way, you keep pushing until your goals are satisfied, you say you are a GNR fan, do you know what those guys went through to reach their status, it can be done, the question is how bad do your really want it all, or are you stuck in your own miserable ways, because that is where you like to be?

Look, I understand that I have to make it hapen that nothing is going to happen by itself. But I have been burned too many times already, and I have nobody anymore to turn to. I have a helluva lot people who hate me or just don't give a fuck about me. Doing something now is very hard for me. Sometimes I'm afraid to leave the house I have been diagnosed panick attacks and an anxiety disorder. Combine this with no friends, social status of a weasel and depression, what you get is a guy who's suffering everyday and has no hope for the future. I'm soon 21 and haven't achieved nothing whatsoever. And guys who had summer school regularly since freaking third grade (most of them bullys) have now graduated HS, only cause they were better than me in one subject. And I don't want to be miserable but I'm stuck here, I don't have many options. I'm not gonna say anything about light at the end of the tunnel, cause there is no tunnel.

And about making excuses: My height is not an excuse it's one of the reasons.

Yeah, Listen to Republican Jesus

Right now u are definitely in denial, I could tell the way u responded to RepubLiCan JeSus but if u hit bottom hard enough, u will see how right he is.

Funny I thought I was at the bottom. I'm in denial how? I have been brutally honest here.

Btw great avatar D  : ok:

Great thing is Rocksteady, is u are only 21.

U are just getting into the thick of life and the bullshit that comes with it.

Soon u will learn to discard all of those people who make u feel this way and only associate with the ones who make u feel good.

Hey, I dont have many friends but the ones I do, don't stab u in the back, make fun of u, try to hurt u or bring u down.

Just remember everything u are going through, happens to everyone and u have to learn to handle it and change what u don't like.

Take me for instance.

I was fat, geeky etc

So what did i do?

I changed it. I worked out, lost a shit load of weight and was no longer fat, still somewhat geeky but its cool now.

A guy who use to talk to me a lot on here told me something very profound once.

He said basically and Im totally fucking this great piece of wisdom up

but something like, u decide how u feel, how u let someone make u feel and how u react to something.

So, if someone bullies u? Dont give them the satisfaction.


U may think I am crazy but there are two things that can solve your ills.

1. Learn to play a musical instrument

2. Start running

both have a way of ridding that anxiety and panic.

U are good at something, its just if u give up and have no confidence u will never find out.  not everyone is great at school, u just have to think about what u are interested in and give that a shot.

What happened to me in school sure didn't happen to everyone. Maybe about 4-5 people in the school got the same treatment. I missed out on everything good that's supposed to come with being a teenager, and experienced most of the horrible stuff that can come with it. And now your trying to tell me that the true bullshit is on the way  :'( 

Sure not all friends stab you in the back, I guess. But I have no friends left.  Although to me it's kinda like playing russian roulette with an empty gun, while wishing for some blanks.

And while you think it's great that I'm "only 21", to me every day that passes makes me think that I'm wasting my youth. And it's all the harder when I see most of my schoolmates being succesful. There was hope for me once but now it's probably gone if some miracle doesn't happen. In school they burn down your soul and take away your pride and self esteem. The fact that I'm still standing is mostly cause I'm leaning on sedatives and anti-depressants.

Was that really a photo of you or are you making fun of someone? Because you look just fine! I can't believe you think you're ugly.

 8)

u can't wait for the miracle to happen, if u want a miracle, be the fuckin miracle man

You aren't listening.

That was me. I don't remember if I said that I'm ugly(it's highly probable though), I think I said I'm not good looking/below average or something to that effect. But it doesn't matter what I'm thinking it's what others think that matters, thats the point. Some years ago I had the stupid idea of putting some pictures of me on a site you know where people rate each other and socialize and stuff. Well that project went down the toilet, that was why I wasn't too keen to post my pic here at first. Besides ugly wouldn't be that much of a problem if I wouldn't be so short. Sorry to bring that up again.

Youth is extremely overrated.

I am a late bloomer and I must say, I would be pissed now almost into my 30's if I had "PEAKED" in my teenage/early 20's.

There's tons of great stuff to come your way but u have to realize that everything isn't gonna be great. The sooner u realize that and get up and fight, the better, more productive life u can have.

I wasted pretty much my ENTIRE 20's being just like u are now and I am here to tell u, it doesn't get u any closer to where u want to be.

U have to take control of your life
U have to make the decision to be happy
U have to stop letting people who don't matter bring u down.

U have to ask yourself a question:

Has anything U've done up till this point made your life better?

If not, that means u need to stop making excuses, u need to stop trying things "YOUR" way or "Societies" Way and start figuring out what it will take to make U happy.

Fuck what anyone else says, thinks or feels. U gotta worry about u.

There is another old saying I will probably screw up but it says something to the affect "If you knew how little people thought about u, u wouldn't care WHAT they thought about u."

No truer words have been spoken.

We as humans dress certain ways, buy shit we don't need, act certain ways, all because of an illusion of this image we want people to see us as when in reality 99 percent of the population don't care.

so be yourself, live your life for u.

AMEN! Lets pass that damn collection plate around already.

I think there is really only one thing that I've done that has made my life a little better. That was when i started to work out, I am not that weak anymore and don't look like I'm made of sticks.

There are a few things I have tried to do that would improve my life. Some of them have worked for sometime and then had a backlash(trying to be friends with some guys I know) others haven't worked at all.

I get most of the stuff you guys are saying. But thoughts and ideas are one thing, executing them in reality is something different. Although I have been trying more or less my whole life, just sometimes I feel it's hopeless.
But I have always thought that until I feel the urge to cut myself, theres's still some hope.

I guess most of you think I'm a big whiner and truly pathetic. Since I'm talking about that kinda stuff on a messageboard, but I don't have nobody else to talk to. And I really don't care anymore.

Dude, I was you like 5 years ago or something.

The key is to get where u can depend on YOURSELF to be happy. If you are counting on other people or other things for your happiness, U will come up short every single time. U can never give any individual or individuals the power to dictate whether or not u are gonna be happy or sad.

It takes time but you need to really learn who you are, what makes u tick, what u like, what u hate and try to do things u like while staying away from shit u hate.

Killing yourself definitely isnt the answer. Hell I've had suicidal thoughts for years and then I realize that if I do that, I will miss out on all the great moments.


I think every person has a period or periods of their life where they are just tested. The period of Murphy's Law. Everything that can go wrong, will go wrong.

Basically, that is your life experience and your learning/growing/evolving. Ok Kid, here is a huge shit storm of stuff. Now lets see u get out of it.

I think a lot of that determines our spot in the next world if u believe in that sort of thing. Everyone has their crosses to bare. No one has an easy life. The greatest looknig, rich, privileged people to us seem like they live on easy street but everyone deals with shit.

Now if u have a legit Bi Polar or other mental condition, then NO, this won't fix it. Therapy maybe medication etc.

If u don't though, all this advice in this thread is great.

holy shit, this thread has gotten heavy and depressing

u sound like youve pretty much hit rock bottom from the way your talking so why not "just giver". your already at the bottom, you cant go anywhere but up.

 life is over before you know it, then who cares. thats what someone told me once, and its so true.

just do exactly what you wanna do and fuck everyone else. Ive got tons of insecurities but ive gotten 1000X better in the last few years by just shutting out what other people might think of me and just doing what i want to do.

John........ is there a closet u would like to step out of?? :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous:

Pics or thats a work.

Rocksteady I came into this thread late, but wanted to offer you my support.

I know exactly what you are going through man. I went through all sorts of shit in high school.

My so called "friends" were all a bunch of fuckwits who wanted to be with the "popular" and "cool guys". Because I was such a "good friend", I became the foundation of a number of rumours they circulated to "cause controversy" and "get in with the popular guys". I personally didn't give a shit about being popular with anyone, and I still don't to this day.

Because of these rumours, and otherwise being a "loner" (but only because I didn't want to hang around any of these idiots), no girls would take me seriously, except for one easygoing girl who in the last few months of school I found out liked alot of the same bands I did (but I never got into a relationship or anything with her).

As a result of that I don't have any big group of "friends" who I'm still with after leaving school. I only just have a small number of friends now I made at concerts, at work etc.

But I don't give a fuck. I just pass my days going to work, listening to music, playing guitar, watching films, and going to see friends. I don't even go to bars or clubs much, not necessarily because I'm ugly and I can't dance for shit, but the truth is the whole womanizing shit bores me. I'd rather just meet with friends sometimes.

What about female companionship? Yeah I meet them. At concerts. At stores near where I work. In the library. See if I give a shit what anyone thinks about that.

Anyway Rocksteady man, don't let the world get you down. But at the same time, don't make yourself down. Find some interests. Join forums. Make friends from Myspace if you have to, who cares where you meet the people, its the quality of the person that matters. Even better if you meet new people based on a shared interest and go out and share the interest, whether it is gaming, or sports, or jamming in a band, whatever.


Take care.

Ben.

oh, Donald, Donald, Donald  :no:.. My name is Jon u know :P

and yeah i'm sorry that you had to find out this way but.. uhm yeah.. it's exactly what u suspected all along.. everytime you're getting home early i'm hiding in your gf's closet..

come say hello right now :D

btw man, i like how this works.. i'm getting her all heated up, u come home and do your minute-and-a-half-magic then falls asleep like a baby and i'll continue :hihi:

Rocksteady, the proof is in the pudding man.

If you wanted to do something to yourself, you would have already done it.

It doesn't matter where you seek help from.  On a deep, subconscious level, you wanna find solutions and live a great life!

Don't be embarrassed, and for the love of Axl, stop apologizing!  There's nothing to be sorry for!

You're gonna be alright.  : ok:

how gay is running?

now go train in boxing, now you get to feel good AND beat the shit of people if need be.

I know you don't believe that exercise will do any good. It will, but you got to make it a habbit so maybe it won't be the easiest step.

Some say you have to put your mind to it and you have it. Actually that's not true, you can think you want a keg of beer you can think of it all you want, but you actually have to go and buy it from the store. You can try running if you like D's gayway with pink spandex, or you can hog some from a teenager if you're mean enough.

But for the record there ain't one thing that comes in mind that I haven't had after I put my mind to it.

The girl I'm seeing now, when I laid my eyes on her I told my mate I'll have her (even tho it's easier to have than keep).
We went on a date a week from that. She weren't easy.

We're moving together soon.

Even tho we're going through a roughspot now and I can't help.
Her brother committed suicide a few months ago and and the days she feels from bad to worse and there ain't any miracles to pull.

And what about when I have a bad day and there's no one to turn to.

Rocksteady - I haven't replied, before, but this whole thing, here, makes me wonder.  Bottom line is - either you are for real or you are a bullshit poster. 

If you are for real, then I think you need some serious help - major counseling and therapy.  Hopefully you have been doing that.  If you're not getting help and answers, there, then find someone else.   

Again, if this is for real - you obviously have very low self esteem, and there is some underlying reason for that. 

At one point, you talked about "past nightmares".  What "past nightmares"? 

I'm thinking that there may be more about yourself that you need to figure out or what you have revealed, here.  And whatever that might be - it's going to be ok.       

:lmao:

ZING, one for jon

Huh? Sorry I just saw this. I know I know I have to get a pic. I keep forgetting to send myself one at work cause that's the only time I have time to post here. And I like to browse the subjects dude. But I promise I will soon.

yup, u r :beer:

Pics or work means, If u don't show pics, it means u are fibbing and aren't really a cougar.