Here Today... Gone To Hell!

The reason i ask this is because  Izzy has been seen  traveling with Axl  in his limo  and he isn't even a member of the band. I know Izzy is a childhood friend  but I think it would be cool if Axl hung out with the band  outside of a professional level.  I wonder if these people are ever together outside of the studio and the stage.   I know Axl didn't have any contact with the band during the illusions tour   but that was because they were not getting along and couldn't stand each other . I think it would be good for the chemistry of the band  if these guys hung out and did interviews together.  It would eliminate some of that"Hired Guns "  perception that almost everybody has of the band.  What do you guys think of Axl  spending all his time with Izzy and neglecting his band  on a social level .

there was somebody who spoke with ron thal after one show (can't remember who, sorry about that) and ron said that axl goes to a lot of cool parties and they sometimes all go with him but not all the time.

Axl hung out with Fink after the 15th NY show at the afterparty. I think its a different ball game these days as most of the band have their families travelling with them, its not like the early days! Axl also has his entorage travelling with him, Beta, stylist, manager girlfriend etc.

Jonx
 

Well I guess they sometimes hang out and talk about their work, have a drink or two. Those things do happen even if you try to avaoid them. You just can't do it all the time.

not much based on the pics you see of him outside of gigs... He chills with beta.

I think Axl really tries to keep his work as seperate as possible from his private life. Guess he got hurt a lot in the past.

It's definitely not as it was in the old days...

In Austria Axl (plus Merck and about 12 other people) arrived with a private Plane from Prague
Everybody else (including IZZY) arrived by Tourbus from Prague

Axls Party left straight after the show with his private plane to Paris

these people are 35+ years old ... they're not hang out and play video games together all the time, as someone said they have family and friends and all ....

so

Well. Not until the Wii comes out at least.

Anyway, it adds to Axl's mystique if he doesn't travel with the band......

Maybe it's best if the " boss" doesn't travel and get too intimate with the others in a way, because the most intimate you are, the more shit you can expect. Like small problems become huge, etc etc....

Maybe axl can then mediate if that arises, rather than be the source of it.

not even GTA San Andreas :-\

of course not the old band could nevr be duplicated first time is always magic... They came together with nothing and made something.. Now it's axl's show basically a multi millionaire with hired help..

 :rofl:

picture axl and tommy and robin jumping around their dressing room playing wii tennis.

I'm pretty sure I remember Slash saying that they never really hung out back in the old days either.  Apart from interviews and such they went their own ways.  I mean you know since Axl and Izzy hired Slash and such to join the band as a musician, not their buddy.  Nice try to undercut the new band though.  Some will never learn.

During the Illusion tour the band didn't hang out or travel together at all.

Read through the history section and see for yourself:

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/history

well ron, sebastian, tommy, and dizzy were at the after party I was at in New York. Axl was pouring everyone drinking and giving people hugs and what not. So i'm sure they all hang out together sometimes. Whether they travel together is a different story though.

Axl can  afford to fly first class on a moments notice... whereas the rest of the band probably can't

yeah a guy with no money hired slash, this is a little different... The final 5 was the band, love how the hired people owned their own rights :hihi:

I read that at one of those party appearances before the hammerstein shows that Axl was hanging out with some bandmates and other folks at one of those clubs....

but usually it seems like he doesnt hang out with them that much on the tour anyway....

I'll gladly pay you next Tuesday if you write and record this song and solo today :hihi:

Popeye...

How is this any different? ?Axl auditioned the musicians and liked them so he put them in the band. ?Now Axl, Izzy, Traci, Ole, Rob.......those guys came together because they were buddies from playing on the circuit. ?When Ole left and Duff replaced him a few months later, he gave Izzy a tape of Slash and Adler playing who in turn played it for Axl. ?When Tracii and Rob couldn't make the Seattle tour, Axl called Slash and Adler up to replace them in the band he co-created with Izzy and Tracii.

Axl's bandmates leave and he auditions new musicians....some bring friends...a few small changes over the years and voila.........you have another lineup. ?Money or no money...it's how bands work. ? ?As for owning rights....I think all the really have is their individual performing name. ?They don't have any legal rights to the GNR songs. ?

again axl had zero money and the same with izzy, they were trying to form a band with people he felt could make it... It's a big difference when you're trying to start a? band and get somewhere in the LA sene compared to you are the owner of gnr and have millions to pick and chose, there's zero urgancy there.. They were all living of biquits and gravy, this is hardly a hire , it was more of a move to make a final band

Either way, the final 5 are the guys that made it big, they are the guys that made afd.... Tracy was there for such a brief time that it's really meaningless, it wasn't what they were looking for..

I mean the one band started in 1985, the other final one was cemented in 1985.. That's hardly a successfull run or accomplishing anything, slash duff axl izzy steven signed the deal, they released afd...

It's not hard to see the difference.... Axl was nothing when he brought slash duff n steve in, they were headed no where...Today since gnr broke up and he added the new guys all the fame was there already, all the rights to close the vmas was there.... hardly a comparison

The only gnr anyone outside of fan forums know is def axl n slash then the rest

Dude, during the Appetite, Axl produced the band as '...my family as we are always hanging around together...'  It's kinda stupid to discuss this, we all know that during the Ilussions they were not around together because they could not stand each other. However, Axl and Duff were OK among each other. Besides, I have read at least thosand times about the GN'R history and I know very well what I'm writing. :beer:

no doubt at least from 85-89 they were super tight.. The illusions you know axl was seperate, sure money anf fame along with yes men didn't help that..

Sure, he was in a biiiiiiiiig fuckin' depression

Wasnt just Axl. It seems to me that Duff and Slash were really the only ones on good terms with each other (then Sorum when he came along). Izzy was blaze to it all and Adler was too fucked up to do anything.

I don't know what happened but if you grew up in that time you could see they did so many photo shoots together and talked highly of eachother as axl called them family.. every magazine was the original five, by the illusion era you would have been hard pressed to find anything together

Just look at afd gnr then look at 1992 how different it was....

Yeah, yeah, no doubt. I grew at that time and I know how it was. Anyway, I still think that it's not the same as it was. Even during the Ilussions.

No doubt I didn't realise it then but now when I look back at the illusions compared to afd I se one band crazy hungry filled with emotion vs sometimes just going through the motions... 1992 was always killer to me, the band become spinal tapish by then

he wasnt there at the club last night, but someone told me usually dont party the night before a show ...

I dont know if Id call it going through the motions, but I do remember the first time I heard the UYI stuff and knowing something there was something off. I was very young but even then I realised it sounded like a bunch of people, all really talented, with different goals and not really working together. Of course, theyre classics and I loved them but they definately lack that cohesion that made AFD stunning. For every knock out song on those discs, theres another that reminds you how fractured the band was becoming. No wonder Axl doesnt relish those times.

But ... to bring this all back on topic; didnt Axl rarely hang out with other band members once AFD came out?

Whose twisted recollection of events is this?   :hihi: