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i went to dublin and bullet for my valentine and funeral for a friend were playing. to be honest i didnt even listen. i dont like that kind of music!

bullets for my valentine fucking sucked each night at hammerstein ,they were to fucking loud for that place.... Got way to metal and it became fucking noise.. No one cared really, was a beer athon, I enjoyed the music on the stereo more.. eevryone singing metallic and ac/dc songs

front row on the 17th - bullet for my valentine was horrible

the songs started out good, but waaaaaay to much crazy screamo shit :confused:

Yeah, they should have just played the house music for 2 hours each night, oh wait............... they did.

Bullet was just not the right band for a GnR crowd. They sounded best the final night when the bassist(?) was gone. He was the worst one with his backing vocals. I'll give them credit for sticking it out, they were catching hell each night.

BFMV was ok, but that is becuase i do not mind angry type music. I can get into it but it was to loud for that place it did become just noise at times. As mike stated I prefered the music over the sterio system more after bfmv. The crowd was having fun then.

Basically you're all a bunch of fucking morons... Bullet for my Valentine are fucking crazily good.  They are incredibly talented, write heavy but melodic tunes ...  Anyone who labels them is a dick.  By the definition of labels, Guns N' Roses are a fucking hair band....

Just stop slagging off BFMV, because they're amazing.  And live, they sound incredible ...

I seen highlights from Bullet For My Valletine on the Download show. They were horrible, screeching guitars, screaming (not singing) vocals. Just crap noise

Avenged Sevenfold at Hammersmith were pretty good.

Funeral For A Friend at Donington sucked, but then I've seen them open for Maiden and they were crap then as well.

BFMV are pretty good, and should go down well on the UK tour.

sex action in budapest. lousy. i was almost praying for them to leave the stage. all songs sounded pretty much the same.  ???

I was near the front for their set at Download - they sucked. ?Like Busted on steroids. ?Melodic? ?I can only think of about one riff that vaguely caught my attention, the vocals were sucky - they almost sound ok until they start growling and screaming, I find that so boring. ?And before you say anything I like Strapping Young Lad, where screaming works with the music not against it. ?So they have technique, great. ?They were wearing Megadeth and Metallica t-shirts - now there are two bands with awesome technique and yet have the talent to turn it into decent music. ?I fucking love metal but that wasn't a very good metal band I heard.

As for "By the definition of labels, Guns N' Roses are a fucking hair band...", what the fuck are you talking about?

The only band I saw at Download that were worse was Funeral For A Friend ?:hihi:

bullet for my valentine isn't bad... just not a good fit as an opener for gnr. Now buckcherry... that would be wikkid

Funeral For My Valentine

Bullet for A Friend

Avenged Seven Fold

were all just screaming emo crap the only reason i put up with them was because GNFNRS were playing next shame we cant have a decent non screaming real rock band to open for them liikee.....hmmmm....let me think....errr....a ha er no ......fuck it were has the real music gone ah i know how about The Prodigy opening for GNR id be up for that  :hihi:

WTF!?  They focus on tight riffing, vocal melody, and searing solos ... You're a freak if you couldn't hear quality from them...

You're just fucking short sighted and closed minded.

we are all entitled to our opinions of who is crap and who isnt some people dont like the bands others do but its fuck all to do with
and more to do with personal taste and not liking the noise they make :peace:

the drums were fuckin annoying

Did any of you guys see Living Things in Madrid? What you guys think of them? I went to see them at Download and they didn't seem in to it at all, was a really small, unenthusiastic crowd they were playing to, but some of the stuff I quite liked!

Yes. Yes. and Yes.

I loved the music and I could tell that there was a melody trying to present itself, but it just didn't come across live. The singing was either drowned out by the instuments or screamed to the point of being un-recognizable. I heard him introduce the titles of the songs fine. After that I couldnt tell you one word that man sang.

No I'm just not deaf. although after listening to them I'm surprised I'm not now.

Like Anythinggoes said it's personal opinion, if you can't accept that them you shouldn't come to a board to discuss things. You like them I don't, end of.

Right, so when 90% of the people that have had the unfortune of seeing them say they're horrible.. they are the morons.


Frankly it was one of worst musical live experiences of my life.


..And I've seen The Duke Spirit

BFMV were just to loud for a small venue like hammerstein ,it became a mashed up mess... maybe thy are good, I only know when all the intruments, especially the drums kicked in it was like a noise fest with the drums giving you heart pains..

dont give us all that rubbish we saw you go to the T shirt stand and buy two t shirts one FFMF and the other BFMV you seemed a lot happier after them purchases believe me ?:hihi:

Went for a burger before Download show so didnt have to suffer any of it.  Saw Lacuna Coil who were pretty good.  Suffered ...... and I do mean suffered through Avenged Sevenfold at Hammersmith.  Biggest load of shit ever.

After seeing bullets the first time I decided to give mustang harrys extra business, like I didn't have enough beer already :hihi:

it had been so long since axl performed and so much news to spread that any band before had no chance

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The sound for Avenged Sevenfold at Hammersmith was not good and I don't think did them any justice. I've seen them live before and its a fun show. Plus their new album is more 'rocky'

A7X aren't bad, some of their stuff can be catchy. BFMV however was the worst band I had ever seen. I was front row on May 12th. They were FAR too loud. The bass just shook the floor. I could feel my hair slightly moving. He drowned the guitarists and the singer out except for the screaming. I looked at my watch like 15 times each song. It was to the point where it was so damn loud my ears were hurting alot by the time guns came on. Boy, was I in for a treat then. It wasn't overly loud. I could hear every instrument but Pitman and Axl was great.? :love: I hadn't even thought about BFMV again since the show until today.

PS the living things are pretty damn good too.

fuck sake man how many times does it need to be said avenged sevenfold aren't emo.
i swear some people just use emo as a tag for anything they don't like.

if you really feel like classing them at the moment a7x would come under metal. the iron maiden and metallica influence is so clear on city of evil. and at times you can really hear that slash is one of syns idols.

personaly i thought they were awesome, helps that i knew the music though, and i agree with the person that said the sound at hammersmith was shit, it was and has been at every gig i've seen there.

FFAF were rubbish ... but I WAS ALSO there at Download and BFMV played a blinder of a set.  I fucking hate most of the 'fans' here because they're so fucking small and closed minded.  And you sir, fit into that category... you like Strapping Young lad?  Why?  It's not music.  It seriously IS noise... You know how I see it ... you never gave Bullet a chance... you just fucking went in thinking something and came out thinking the same without giving a chance.  Pathetic.

You know what also makes me laugh .... most of the people here will suck Axl's cock til it's Raw, over band members, and his actions in public, ie: court etc.... yet his choice of support act (yes... HIS ... he's powerful enough to have that decision), get's slagged most of the time ... usually doesn't matter what band it is ...

Oh well... I'm going to go and listen to Bullet now ... and enjoy it... I hope you enjoy the GnR album, because it sounds like it's all you wanna listen to...

Neither Avenged Sevenfold OR Bullet for my Valentine are Emo .... Emo is a fucking label put on by people who don't know shit about music... they confuse stuff... want me to tell you a real emo band?  Jimmy Eat World.  Yep.  Like em?  Think they're emo?  Well, they are... they're one of the first bands to have that label.... wann know what emo means?  It's Emotional Rock ... so fucking what?  I don't get the whole label thing...

Avenged and Bullet are both metal bands ... and two of the best around today if you ask me.  People that don't like them are conforming to a stereotype of 'hater' for the sake of it ... it annoys me because I know Axl will have specifically chosen the two bands .... You're disrespecting the bands AND Axl if you shout shit to these support acts... they're there to SUPPORT GnR...

Does no one get that?

Hey twisted,  You are always in here picking fights with everyone .  Are you even a GNR fan??   If you don't like the people here then get the fuck out . their are tons of music message boards out there  that would be better suited for your taste in music . Just because some of the people here don't like the music you like does not make them close minded morons , it just means they have good musical taste   that's all.   I bet  you probably think CKY  are music Geniuses    right??    I guess you took Da Pope's place as the most annoying poster .

Judging by your posts in this thread, I think the feeling is mutual.  ::)



Bullshit. Some people like the opening acts, some don't.

They've always had different kinds of opening acts. It's nothing new.

Where were you defending Mix Master Mike in 2002?  :P


Stop acting like you're above everybody else just because you happen to "get" Avenged Sevenfold and Bullet For My Valentine.




/jarmo

I do!


A7X were decent at Hammersmith. Glad of my seat to kick back and take in their set.

Bullet For My Valentine and Avenged Sevenfold are about as good as modern hard rock / metal gets these days... i compliment Axl for choosing those bands.

Sebastian Bach plays mostly Skid Row, right? that's kinda gay... he should play stuff from his upcoming solo album instead.


i'd like to see GNR on a big co-headlining tour with Metallica and Alice In Chains... that line-up would crush.

twisted are u a PR for Bullet For My Valentine?

I was defending two bands ... not slagging GnR ... so why don't you fuck off as you tell me to do so?

And Jarmo, I'm not above everyone else... and I don't profess or act it ... I just think most of the people on your forum are twats.  I do like some of the people here tho ...   Do you think Dave2K is Mr nice?  No... he slags people and argues with people too ... as do plenty of others (btw, I'm picking Dave as an example... not as the only person).

This is a discussion board.  If I choose to defend some bands, fucking right I can... same way people will defend GnR or Axl when they're slagged off ....

You just don't like my attitude because you don't agree with me most of the time...

i wish they hadnt chosen (or whoever did) shitty emo-metal bands like they have. but they are better than cky mind.

but they shoulda got some proper rock n roll bands like black rebebl motorcycle club. or queens of the stone age! or primal scream! (i know how unlikely that was likely to happen, but it woulda been sweet). and maybe if the support acts hadnt been so shite, i wouldnt have missed the first four songs in dublin!

but there is a real dearth of good rock bands around at the moment so its understandable the support acts being so rubbish. and of course, its easy given the european festival circuit for bullet and avenged to tag along.


shoulda got the flaming lips.

and i think a lot of people think the same of you

this is a Guns N Roses board if you want to defend the bands go and post your love for them in the Jungle

You hit the nail on the head there

Emo: Emotive Hardcore. The Emo genre has its roots in the late 70's but officially came into being in the mid 80's in Washington, but afterwards died down quite radically. What is called 'emo' now, is actually pop-punk. Examples of Emo bands: Rites Of Spring, Moss Icon. Examples of bands labeled emo that aren't: My Chemical Romance, The Used ect.

Believe me, I've gotten this lecture several a time by my friend, so I've pretty much memorized it. And now we're all smarter, ja?

And my opinion of the opening acts: While I haven't seen them live, based on what I've heard, they're rather 'meh'. Avenged Sevenfold do have a decent guitarist though.

How bout dropping the opening bands altogether? Personally, I would just as soon hear the mixed tape of songs they play after the opening acts end. I can't imagine these opening acts are bringing any "new" fans to Gnr. If they want exposure to new fans, just periodically play festivals. When it is their own show, NO OPENING ACT!!! If you need an opening act to fill a 10,000 to 18,000 seat arena, then play a smaller venue. :-\

I know what you mean about where has the real music gone.All these  bands of today are shit-they're just following a trend(a crap one at that).In my opinion gnr are the only band left who make 'real' music.I also didn't enjoy bullet for my valentine, there's way too much of that screaming shit(that's not music!).Although i must say the lead singer(i think his name is mathew tuck(?!)) is hot! :drool:

bands are just copying GNR so music isn't progressing, examples of this: tower of london, red star rebals!

There are good bands out there today folks, just look a little harder - they're not all as bad as Funeral For A Friend  :peace:

I know Buckcherry have ties to Velvet Revolver, but is there any way they would ever open for GnR?  That would be a great show.

I think BC these days would open for axl quicker, the whole not making josh the frontman might not have left a good taste in his mouth

I think gnr should get some older style ands to play with them at their shows like some 80's bands it would remind people of the good ol days  : ok:

then they'll wish for the old band more, crowd would be older... When does bach open,. or has that already started?

i went to dublin aswell and was in the pub so didnt see any support acts  :D

Hear, hear. I doubt if the people who stick to the 80s like them tho.

On topic, I hope GNR fans aren't too hard on the supporting acts on the spot.

i'd rather hear some unsigned brit bands supporting them on their UK tour! : ok:

i saw the living things in madrid and they weren't bad at all

buckcherry would be great

just what we need, a nostalgia tour. i hope this was sarcastic. this is the opposite of what they should do. they need to expose themselves to new fans. one way of doing this is by getting bands that actually sound current and not dated. it may make people such as some of those that posted here a little upset because they are still living in 1989 or early 90's or whatever, but it allows high school kids that may be into avenged sevenfold see what all the legend of gnr is all about. in order for gnr to be as important today as they were back in the day, they need the support of a new generation of fans.

what do you guys think of Evanescence opening for Guns?

^^^

are they even still around? i was not a fan of theirs. and they already sound dated.

I think that'd be awesome, but I doubt many here would.

I think they should have Leonard Cohen open up...that would fuck with peoples heads...no really GN'R needs to bring Placebo to the US, either that or Wolfmother, or Muse. Or Gnarls Barkley that would be "CRAZY," I could see Axl covering that song...lol

I hated Bullet but I wish A7X opened instead of Bullet on the 17th in Hammerstein.  A7X rules.

I generally agree with this assessment of 'emo'. and it didn't necessarily start out bad, but some bands have made it have bad connotations.

That said, anyone who calls Avenged Sevenfold and Bullet for my Valentine emo has no idea what they are talking about. they have no grasp of music in the now and probably only listen to the same stuff they listened to 10 to 15 to 20 years ago. the whole time complaining that there are no good bands out there anymore and today's bands "don't have a clue". these people are funny to me in their ingorance.

that said. funeral for a friend suck. the have no "teeth". boring.

go and enjoy your crappy band message board`s  :hihi:

good one  : ok:

i still say The Prodigy they would definaltly get the crowd stirred up :hihi:

emo bands get labled when they all wear black, pain their nails, have a long fringe that covers there face or at least half of it! the songs normally start with the singer screaming, then he growns the rest, then some more screaming etc.

Thats what i thought emo bands are and thats what some people I know think they are, all hate there parents n wanna kill themselves, n their idol is cobain!

Hey what about Breed77?.I'd never heard of them before until i went to download and i thought they weren't too bad.

I didn't particularly care for "Be My Valentine".  heh