Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Is it me, or was Axl really not into the Download performance....how will he gain acceptance from the non-die hards if he just stands around and gives a half ass performance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyDje3LsHY0

that really sucks...
I know Tommy had something thrown at him and there was probaly some tech difficulties, but if I was there and witnessed Axl standing around and not even caring...well...what would I care...

very sub par performance...Axl can do better...better oohh  (haha)

Bad Example. The Download Festival was like 2 different shows. The first half was a disaster with the band having problems and people getting rowdy. And the second half was an amazing show where Axl, the band and the crowd really got into it.

OK cool,  I was hoping that he wasn't a sour puss the whole show : ok:

It was only the first half of the concert so it's all good? :peace: Check out the Paradise City video from the TV broadcast from last night, he has alot of energy in it compared to the Better clip? : ok:

"We want Slash!" What bullshit! You'd think 10 years'd be enough to get over the druged up dude but no, a bunch of pissed (both ways) Englishmen yelling shit.

Who would want someone who's died 5 times to be in your band? That isn't a good resume. :hihi:

 :hihi:that surely adds a bit of an edgy aura to the band :smoking:

We want slash we want duff :hihi:

yeah I mean imagine the fans wanting the real gnr players...

They booed the shit out of him after better

english seem to not be taken so easily, can't just throw anyone up there with them

I wouldn't have said anything but someone always needs to throw in digs, like he was just some drugged up dude.. Fucking gnr fans ::)

yeah fuck Slashand his resume which includes

AFD
LIES
UYI 1
UYI 2
TSI
ContraBand
  3 of the greatest solos ever recorded (according to various mags) SCOM, Nov Rain, Estranged

 Some of the most recognizable and greatest riffs of all time
WTTJ
PC
Nightrain
etc....

and only inspired hundreds of thousands of guitar players

yeah fuck him

 ::)

Like read the Download concert thread   ::)

I forgive them, they are 17 and 13...? people that age never experienced anything but this..

Look i'm not anti the new band....but come on folks...Slash wrote the solos in all these songs we like, and a good deal of the riffs too...so unless the ONLY  GNR songs you like are the leaks...

I agree its pointless to call for him when he's not even in the same country and so not about to come out on stage. And noone denies the dude did a lot of drugs. But lets not insult the guy by pretending he wasn't a massive massive part of GNR's sucessess.

I grew up with GNR and I don't miss the old band. At all.

that is so weird, like who grows up with the original but loves the replacement band more.. The band that ruled the world and made the gnr name then the people who jumped on teh badnwagona dn get the free ride because of the past... Guess I'll never understand this logic..

When I grew up we got a dog, a lovely, smart labrador. I loved that dog to bits, really. Then one day, our buddy passed away and I was in tears for days, until my parents bought me a new one, also a labrador. That day, I sold my heart to the new dog, because I was hurt so much by the death of the first that I needed something to direct my love at, it helped me forget about the old dog. It helped me not miss the old dog. I loved the new dog in every single way and thought it was the best dog in the world. When I grew up and went to live on my own, the dog stayed with my parents and I didn't think about him that much anymore. Come to think of it, I hadn't thought of the new dog for a long time until now. All my memories of me and my dog seem to be of the first one. Yeah... that was a damn good dog... I could talk to it in 'people speak', you know, just saying whole sentences and he would understand me... I would be like "wait here a minute for me will ya, I have to get something from the garage, but I'll be right back" and I would come back and it would be sitting there, waiting for me. That dog rocked!

Yeah, the second dog wasn't really that great at all... just laying there, getting fat, losing hair in my bed, being generally uninterested in anything I did... But it was there to fill the gap that the first dog left, I just didn't understand that at the time.

Axl pouted through 1/2 of a show..  Thats a real shocker....

I'll never understand why people take it so personally. I've already heard the old band, great yeah, but they were going down hill fast. Breaking up was the best thing for them.

I mean, if people don't like it why do they stick around? I think another album by the orginal band would have been boring as shit... to me, anyway. Robin is what got me interested in GNR again. 

yeah you are 100% correct.. Having Axl, Slash, Izzy and Duff release an album would have been alot more boring than Axl releasing nothingin 13 years..  I have seen the light.

from what ive seen of download i wasnt too impressed either!!

you guys cant say you havnt missed slash, him duff and axl are guns n roses, just because axl owns the rights to the name, doesnt make the band so......the band is great though, but slash and duff coming back would be the greatest thing to happen in rock n roll : ok: since AFD

I don't understand how another album from the old band would have been boring, they did afd lies the the illusions then TSi which doesn't count.. So basically they release 3 of the best albums and one of the best out? of four in rock..

I think robin is cool and all but he was nothing special in 01-02.. I am hearing just a lot of old tunes by a new band really.

The way you say I saw the old band already, like it was a phase or something.. That was the gnr that wrote everything played on the radio day in and day out, those are the solos and we love,....

As I said I'll never get it, I couldn't be into slash izzy duff axl for that amount of time just to say I saw them already who cares.. There was no others making music it was them, they are apart of those 90 million albums sold ,they are the only people thought of when gnr is mentioned

you should never forget about the things you loved....
loving that first dog..opened your heart to loving others..
if it wasn't for the first dog  where would you be?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying: if it wasn't for the first dog, I would've realised the second one wasn't really all that, but instead a big fat lazy sloth...
It's only with time that I came to realise that though...

Just like me. This band is more GN'R to me than the old one.

I hope that a reunion thing will never happen.

As for Axl's attitude during the first half of Download, well, it was not an easy crowd ...

how the fuck can this band be more gnr then teh real gnr ???

that's like saying queen is more queen without freddy mercury

It's just because the old band never gave me a 'band' feeling, that's all ... They always seemed so appart.

Look for how long this line up is together. And they do seem more like a band nowadays.

and the sorry-ass hater bandwagon rolls along...

that's insane, from their shows pre afd till the illusions started they always looked tight.. I can agree they weren't looking tight in 1992

They made some great music together for the brief time they were together. But I got over the old group not being together 12 years ago. My life or love of other music didn't stop when they left GNR. When I heard about Axl making a new GNR album and saw who was in his band I got really fucking excited. It's nothing against the old band at all, I just dig this line up more. You're attached to the old one. That's the way it is. :peace:

Like I said, I was never attached to Slash or Duff. And I'm not going to knock this line up that I love just because of memories I have.

That was then this is now. I have no desire to revisit the past. I have the old records and I still listen to them sometimes, but not as much as the boots and leaks. I don't know how to explain it but this line up means more to me than the old one.

many people are attached to slash, eevry great gnr song is him ripping it up... many people think axl and whoever he hires is just acceptable ,like you'll just forget about everything.. If he's so new band and all how about he plays more then just afd covers for teh second straight tour and plays what his new band did..

I mean how can you think about the old band, afd songs, same two covers, izzy onstage, bach out there.. I mean geez it's like 15 years ago again..

I agree, he should play more new tunes. :hihi:

But see, you're enjoying the new shows... Enjoy the band, dude. You'll have a much better experience. Don't be a killjoy.

Yeah but Id, man people say it's the past when I say I prefer the old band but it's like ok but how can I go to see a new band nad have all the music I loved from the old still in my face..

if I want to forget an X I don't keep pictures of her in my room :hihi:

I want new really, i enjoyed better more with them because it was theirs

I understand where you're coming from. One of the things I looked forward to was hearing the new line ups take on the old songs. I just enjoy it for what it is.

Look at it this way: Your new girlfriend comes over and finds a sexy maid outfit that you got for your ex and that you love... Do you let her wear it? Or do you throw it under the bed because of the memories of your ex?

I'd have her wearing that shit. :smoking:

I guess your favorite members are you favorite members no matter how many years pass, you can appreciate people or respect their talents but the love or devotion to the old or what you like can never be matched.. You always remember your first, or what made you get into something,...  I had those guys on my wall for 10 years, that was the only band that was more then music but a lifestyle... I am glad axl's back, I just really wish he had used a diferent name, would have been so much easier for all. I was perfectly fine with the idea gnr was over. most great bands fizzle out

Just like I'd see slash or duff for vr, I'll see axl for his work..

When I saw them in 2002 the best part was the new songs like CD and Madagascar.. Those are the only new songs I liek anyway.. Those and "Oh My God" was goos 7 years ago. But that was cool to watch them play their songs. ?Watching them do all the GnR classics didnt do it for me at all.. Axl should rename the band and play 90% new shit with a couple old tunes here and there... That would be too risky for him though...

that would have been great, new band new name start with a clean slate.. The only risk would have been it would have been much harder work, he'd have to do smaller venues, less money and time for cd, plus he'd have to promote... The minute gnr's attached he has the world , vmas closing, money for cd with no time limit, and arena tours quickly, plus rio 3..

Well... Seeing that its his band... That he's actually in... Playing the songs he had a part in making... In a band he never left... That he started... I think he can do whatever he wants with the name.

Man I would have liked to been old enough to see the original band in concert.....I love that music......my babysitter used to watch the videos and pant and drool....I guess that?s why i started liking GN'R so much. Too bad I wasn?t born earlier!! :love:

an idea has to be started by one man, anyone can draw up something but the people you join forces with to build it are the true owners and people that made it.. people leaving is called breaking up, they wouldn't have onwed rights if it was just axl's band.. true they gave em away, but I have no doubts axl was not going to continue on unless they did..

A name is just that, the people in it that made the name are what matters

Yeah the original band in concert was something to behold. (No disrespect to the new band). The stage presence and aura alone was MASSIVE...let along the cool music!! :beer:

i saw the ritz show in the 80's plus bougth afd and watched all the interviews and videos but was on 11 really when I got afd so no shows then.. Either way they caught my attention instantly and followed me through HS and ever since