Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Well I was thinking axl has gotten all this crap about no album coming out , and no work being done and such all that stuff. I really hated the '02 band , i found it down right sick. 06' line up is pretty good , thal while wierd has the right attitude and is such a kind person.  But I mean SOMETHING has had to be getting done , something very good , important , or sale worthy because the label has kept them right? I mean if the label found GNR to be up to nothing then they would've been dropped , but they see something in them correct? That just kind of re newed my faith of CD being pretty freakin awsome.

The only change from 02 to 06 was Buckethead leaving and Ron joining. So its Buckethead you didn't like?

The band's chemistry is a lot better! Axl doesn't look like a rapper anymore, and more new songs are being played.

It may be that the label think its great, or more likely they think it'll sell.

/\ And its hardly worth waiting ten years and dropping it if you think it will be out sometime

Mandy: I'll stand corrected on the chemistry and more new songs(although I dont think thats what he meant) but does Axls' clothes really decide how much people enjoy a show? I accept that people didnt like it but if a football jersey ruined the experience for someone, they have bigger issues to deal with :peace:

after donating $13 million dollars I'm sure they would just let them leave without being compensated ::)

Nah, it doesn't decide how much people enjoy a show, but it was just too weird seeing Axl like that. Like I've said many times, now they look like a proper rock n' roll band. I'm sorry, but it looked like a freak circus back then.

it's pathetic.... with the only difference bucket/bumble... it's an image thing.  fink doesnt look goth and looks like more of a hippie now.  Bumblefoot looks like an old 80's rocker so that "improves" the band even if bucket is one of the best guitarists alive and axl lost the jerseys making him look less new school.  i love the 02 band.  i love the o6 band.... but i miss bucket.

I remember a lot of people in this board giving the band hell because of their image in 02, if that was the hard core fans can you imagine the rest of the public, the music industry is now more than ever more about image than music. To please a larger public the way they present themselves is very important, they look more to what the general R&R public would expect, and yes a lot of people would look at BH and just see a fric and not a great guitarist, as they did with Fink.
As far as i'm concerned they could rap themselves in toillet paper...wait i would actually like that a lot...but theres a big diference in the energy and mostly the confidence each individual shows on stage this time. i've only saw bootlegs of 02 but even thouse compared to the ones of this tour it seams like a whole new band.

they 02 band was different
attitude, style, chemistry

you people are very wierd sometimes

Well I was looking for a more elaborate answer from the original post but since you took up the cause....

All those reasons could be made as areflection of Buckethead leaving, or a change in how they dress, mainly Robin and Axl. Granted the guys are playing more of their own material now, but on most nights recently they have only been playing 2 extra new songs that werent played in '02. So what is it that makes the '06 line-up better than '02?

If there's something to hate about the 2002 band that is Axl's voice for sure.

Yeah ... he doesn't sound like he did in 02 ... I think he'd forgotten how to sing back then...

I thought about that myself. Nightmare. Glad it's over  :P

The majority of songs are better now in '06.  LALD "'02 style" is still my favorite LALD. 

Yes, the look of the band is much cooler now...but the vocals are just so much freaking "better."  (as an aside, if you can't see Axl is hungrier now than in '02, check your vision.)  Really good bands have an aura, this '06 GNR has exactly that.  While '02 was a talented freak show, the '06 version is a talented rock band.   :peace:

No, there's no way the label would drop GNR.  You don't pour 11 million dollars into an album and drop the band. 

we're talking about commercial stuff...you don't change all your clothing style suddenly...
izzy on stage, special guests and all these gnr stuff...news, news and news  :beer:

yeah...the record company is playin' its role now in my opinion :yes:

I like the current concerts and the band; these guys rock!  : ok:

If I was a betting man, I'd bet alot on this theory ;D

As for the band, v2006 looks and sounds more like a rock act. v2002 looked like a circus freak show with a cheap imitation of Axl singing

That's the truth.  Whatever you want to say about Axl's voice in 2002 the screams during LALD were unreal

he deserves all this crap

its the same minus one guy

its the same minus one guy

same could be said for mr carrol, do u know who he is?


maybe yes, or maybe no.. even george michael has kept a label.

maybe yes, or maybe no.. even george michael has kept a label.

dollars!!! they see.

: ok:

sorry-ass doubters...

I'm pretty sure they got a good bid of that back after the Greatest Hits release though and those few DVDs they released that were on VHS before.

they are not trying to break even.  and re releasing old shit that was on VHS or Greatest Hits albums doesnt even come close to what new records sell or make. : ok:

Getting even it's not just about how much you make but a lot to do with what you spend to make it, and GH sold a lot as it did LE and still sells, with minimal publicity, it's a great deal.
I think that the record company it's not that interested anymore, they pressured the band to release when that article appered (all the money and AXl being impossible to workwith blabla), and now the band is pressuring them, Axl comprimised with a soon is the word date, and as far as i know the record company has no information on their pages about the release of the album, it's supposdly in 3/4 months.
This tour may be to prove that they are relevant, still a good and relieble investement and have a broad audiance that would buy a new album. The beahviour of the band and record company looks a lot with the business push around game.

Buckethead is gone and Thal is in.
Robin doesn't look like a goth anymore
Axl lost the wigger look that he sported back then.

So all in all the group doesn't look like a freak show anymore. Plus them being much tighter helps.