Here Today... Gone To Hell!

High Point---1988 MTV VMA's when the boys came out and blew the roof off the fuckin place with 'welcome to the jungle'--Axl with his 'eat the worm'  shirt was classic----TIED  with watching the boys on MTV from The Ritz in 1988 (when things started to pick up) knowing within 6 months this band was gonna take over the world


Low Point---also MTV VMA's---2002---Axl out of shape, no Slash or Duff or Izzy, botoxed face, no singing voice left-----TIED with Izzy quitting in 1991

High Point: Was probably seeing Axl and Izzy with Tom Petty on MTV.  I fucking flipped when Axl did Free Fallin'.  That was fucking awesome.

Low Point:  I went to Philadelphia in 02.  Nuff Said.

High point:  hearing about the come back of guns in '02, seeing them in the VMA's, hearing about the tour....and hit the climax when i walked into the F.U.(First Union) Center in Philly (now the Wachovia Center). 




Low point:  Litterally getting F'ed by Axl with his no show in Philly. 

Listening to AFD for the first time.

Hearing Slasg left.

High point : Hammerstein
Low point: Still waiting

high:rock in rio 2 both nite's specially the second  :yes:
low:when the original line up start to leave  :'(

But i love the new band really dig the new tunes.  : ok:

high: Personally for me, May 15th, 2006, the third show at the Hammerstein (first tickets from the 2006 GnR' band to go on sale.) My fiance and I travelled from Edmonton Alberta, Canada to see this show. A dream come true for me.

low: awaiting a new album from GnR' for 13 years, and still waiting.

High point- Listening to AFD and UYI for the very first time, getting into the band.

Low Point-1994-2001, 2003-2005

High- Appetite for Destruction

Low- Slash leaving  :'(

Highs:  Meeting Slash & Matt Sorum / Being there 5/12/06.

Low:? Finding out the Phoenix show I had tickets for in '02 was cancelled.

High:  Appetitte for destruction

Low:  MTV 2002  -  one of the worst and most embarrassing performance  in award show history.  I wonder if Axl has nightmares about that night on a reg basis. Maybe his therapist has helped him out with the trauma.

High:  Freddie Mercury tribute concert - the band kicked ass.

Low:  Cancellation of the rest of the 2002 tour. 

High point=93.  When they were on top of the world.  Low= 96-02 and 02-05.  When nothing was happening and we were waiting for CD.  We're still waiting for CD but at least they are touring.

old band

new band

 :beer:

Ouch!  :hihi:. What a burn.

Well..



My high points would be...

The Demo Leaks and the announcement of the new tour/ hearing that the record will drop in the fall




And my low points would be...

The "GN'R will not be playing RIR4/Buckethead quit" message from Axl

high: 31.05.2006 budapest, hungary first and only gnr show for now

low: all the years spent on gnr sites with absolutely no news at all.

high point: me getting the leaks and posting them  :peace:


low point: slash leaving. the greatest frontman ever needs the best guitar player ever

Im with you guys!

Ditto.

if u dont like the new band simply GTFO. no point in being here.

high point: VMA's '02 (first time i started getting into gnr)

low point: Cancellation of the rest of the 2002 tour. like cyber said.

Great post! : ok:

High point: Watching the WTTJ video for the first time after school one day at the age of 8!  :smoking:

Low point: Having the tickets in my hand to go see them in Europe back in 2001, only to hear Axl say he didn't even know about the tour and sending back my tickets for a refund.  :-\

High Point: The VMA's in 2002. I know one guy mentioned it as a low point, but I wasn't old enough to even know who GNR was back when they ruled the world. I bought AFD when I was in 7th grade (I think that would've been around 1999) and so I had never experienced GNR except on albums and DVDs and videoclips. I remember watching the VMAs, and I remember when Jimmy Fallon talked about having a big surprise at the end of the show. I kept hoping it would be GNR but I didn't think it actually would be (I hadn't been online any and so I hadn't heard the rumors). But when Jimmy appeared in a GNR shirt and whistled "Patience" just before one of the commercial breaks, I started to get incredibly excited. When he finally introduced the band, and I heard Axl's jungle howl, I totally jumped off the couch. I don't think I even slept that night, and I was so excited for days (if not weeks) afterwards. I was asking everybody at school the next day if they saw it. I made my parents watch the reruns of the VMAs just so I could share the great experience with them (I know a lot of people say that performance sucked, but I totally disagree; I've watched it probably a thousand times since and every time I think it's awesome. So what if Axl was a little out of breath? It was still a kickass "Round 1!!!") That was definitely my fave GNR moment, by far. But hopefully I'll have a new one if they do a US tour and I get to attend one of the shows.

Low Point: It's hard to say. Like I said above, I wasn't old enough to know GNR when they ruled the world, or else I'd probably list Izzy leaving or Slash leaving as my low point. I didn't experience it, though, and so I can't list that. But I'd probably say the canceling of their 02 tour. I was so excited that GNR was back and ready to reclaim their throne as the greatest band in the history of the universe. And then suddenly it was all over and back to normal (which was never hearing anything about them). Luckily they're back now and better than ever. The 02 tour had a very ominous feeling from the very beginning. Things are much different this time.

High point - Hammerstein may 12 2006 - just because I was there to witness an awesome return

Low point - the 2002 VMA's - Buckethead, Robin's goth phase, axl's horrible performance, no new single.... followed by 3 1/2 years of silence.

those are two definetly in this era^

another tour 4 years later without an album is a big low point

High point: Rio 2005 when he came out with a bottle of booze and screamed "you know where the fuck you are!"

Low point: Cancellation of the 2002 tour and Izzy quitting

High Point: Discovering the band for the first time in 1997 and remember thinking to myself this music is unreal.

Low Point: Seeing the 2002 VMAs for the first time and being in utter shock.

HIGH : live in Santiago in Chile

LOW : i guess LA or something.

Robin joining the band :beer:

Buckethead quitting. The silence.

Even though the 02 VMA's wasn't great, hearing Madagascar live on MTV was a very high point.

High: ?MSG '91, Hammerstein '06, AFD

Low: ?Since I Don't Have You, 1994-2005

High ...... going to see them last week at hammersmith

low.... 1991/2 when it was clear the band was no longer a band and knew it was going to end.

High: 5/17/06 - Seeing Axl hug Izzy on stage. I must be the only one who thinks this is of monumental significance.

Izzy coming on stage with the new "Guns" is huge. He is giving his blessing to the new incarnation, which means a lot. Since then, not only is he giving his blessing he has ACTUALLY FUCKING PARTICIPATED on a regular basis. Monumental in my opinion for so many reasons.

Low: A decade plus of silence. GnR (and I do blame them collectively) killed rock music. As unfair as it is to put such responsibility on a group of guys, the fact remains that GnR were RnR in the early 90's. They were the next Stones, Aerosmith to carry Rock into the coming decades and they totally blew it.

Wow... I wonder what Nesquick's contribution to this thread will be....  ???

It couldn't be Buckethead, afterall he interests him so little that he never wants to bring him up in any way. :rofl: :hihi:

-PEACE-

Ps.

Low point: The cancelled 02 tour. I felt really sorry for those who were let down.

High point: Getting here on May 13 to discover Bumblefoot had joined (just like Buckethead back then).

First off - great thread - it's nice to take a break from the tired debates ?:peace:

High:
#1 05/12/06 & 05/17/06 ?Band showed how great the really are.
#2 Freddie Mercury tribute concert - I think the old bands best perfromance, I ge tthe chills when I watch AXl come out during BR with Elton John.

Low:
this doesn't bother me that nuch, but I have to put something so I will say that the lack of communication with the fans. On the flip side it does add a bit of mystery around the band wich keeps me somewhat interesting

Last comment - GNR FUCKIN' ROCK (both old and new members)

HIGH: Freddy tribute.
LOW: The day axl looked in the mirror and thought "It would be cool to wear tight bike shorts on stage"

High point

I was about 9 or 10 and I was going out to eat at the resturant my mom worked at with my dad and he had the radio cranked so loud it gave me a headache. Guess whol was on the radio! GUNS N' Roses SWEET CHILD O MINE


Low point

Slash Leaving, I wish the old guys could get back or at least slash , he blows these other players away

High: Freddie Mercury tribute concert

Low: Dead People at Donnington  :'(

High- tied-waiting in line in 91 to get uyi the day they came out
                 seeing that 2006 is the real return of GNR

low- having tickets for the Tampa show ( which was cancelled)

High: 07/06/06 - Hammersmith Apollo. First time I saw them live, absolutely amazing.

Low: The fact it's not Slash, Duff, Izzy and Adler. I miss the old band so much :( (despite the fact I love the new one)

Love the av, I've had that comic book for so many years now :beer:

HIGHT: everything of the old band. It was an amazing erea. I was lucky enough to know the old band back in the days, and even if I was a child, I will never forget it. It will never be the same and never be as fantastic as it was. They were the real deal. They were "Guns N' Roses".
Also the Axl and Slash combo, they were like Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, or Page and Plant. Put these two guys together and this is History.
Slash was as important as Axl.

LOW: Buckethead joining the band and ruining the name "Guns N' Roses" during 4 or 5 terrible years. What a nightmare he was!
Also the 95-2001 erea, we didn't have any info, it was a very hard time.

I thought yoko was huge :hihi:

High:  Seeing the band in June of '91 at the CNE in Toronto, before the UYI's came out.  People were just yelling songs, and they played them.  Almost a 3 hour show, and that was the first time I saw them.  Also, Slash almost ran us over on his BMX bike before the show! 

LOW:  2002 VMA's, everyone knowing I love Gn'R, then trying to justify to my friends why there was a guy in Gn'R wearing a bucket and a Phantom of the Opera mask, when I thought it was ridiculous too.

November 24, 2002 Cleveland
Such an awesome show, the guys totally blew the roof off in cleveland, as well as Hammerstein 5/14 took a greyhound to see the show.

Low point would be after waiting so for their return only to have it overshadowed by cancellations and no official reason only speculation

high point- realizing in 1988 after seeing a show that this band was going to make history, and now in 2006 seeing that this new band is amazing, and im really impressed, and being able to move on from the old band, being able to love the new one

low point- hearing about it when izzy left and then slash and duff, and the hearing slash and duff saying less then nice things about their time in GNR

High------Coming back to Texas from a month long Colorado trip and hearing that some band called Guns n Roses had somehow invaded America while I was in the mountains. I waited for around two hours driving in my car for a gnr song to be played. Finally my patience was rewarded by the station playing SCOM. I didnt stop to go home. I went straight to the record store and bought AFD.
LOW---Getting a -1 karma point on this website. :beer:

Why do people slag on the 2002 VMA's as a low point.  Fuck, I was glad to see them.  It looked like they had some technical problems but that medley was kick ass!  Check your fuckin heads.

High Point:There still being a band
                           Low Point: The Spaghetti Incident?, i was excited about that album and was very disappointed

High Point:? High Pont Seeing my 3rd Gn'R show at the Boston Garden on St. Patricks Day 1993.


Low Point:? Axl and 7 other musicians that have nothing to do with Gn'R's legacy touring under the Gn'R name...

High: Use Your Illusions.  They are two very awesome albums.  & also when the band as it is today came back and did the Hammerstein shows and RIR.

Low: 95-01, when there was no news of GNR's return or anything else.

High Point: May 12, 2006 Hammerstein Ballroom, New York City. Hands down the best concert I've ever been to in my life. I've seen over 300 shows in my time including several concerts with the old GNR lineup and this statement remains true.

Low Point: November 21, 2002 Palace of Auburn Hills. Despite the show going well enough to play Rhiad for the only time ever in the US, Axl gets pissed a techical issues during Patience. He throws the mic down and leaves. The house lights come up and the show is over without an encore.

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?board=15.0

Hahaha.

Some people need guidance in their lives towards salvation.  :hihi:

High - Joining this board and officially becoming a GN'R diehard. And the first time I listened to Estranged all the way through.

Low - Having never seen the new or old band live. Especialy the old band.

doesn't he have a legit point if he's been a fan for a long time>? Why does everyone dismiss that as being alowpoint.. ? Is it a high point of queen going on without freddy, or the doors without jim morrison? I think those are low points.. Most fans who were so into something can't just switch their likes and dislikes because the gnr name just goes on with new people.. What's the point of getting into a band then it changes completly? I love motley crue, you think if nikki tommy n mick were replaced I'd love the new band the same.??

Fair point, but this is not the time or the place and to compare Axl Rose with Vince Neil is utterly stupid. This not something that happened over night, it's been changing since 1991 and that gives people plenty of time to either go with the flow or jump the ship all togheter.

it doesn't matter if you like vince or not, it's the point that counts... We aren't comparing talents, just bands.. It is true it has been changing for years, but it didn't change in front of your eyes, it kind of went away then people left during the hiatus then a new band appeared while waiting for one album all that time... if it was like th illusions it might had been easier to adjust, just to many key members who made gnr left, ..

I mean only one person from the afd cross is in the band, that's the album that is praised by every rock or metal fan...

I think a band that became as big as gnr can't just leave for that period of time and just switch up like that..

How many people can be in one band before it becomes spinal tapish.. 99 you had diferent players, 2001 you had different players, 2002 you had different, 2006 different again..

Sure a few have remained like robin n tommy but it seems to just be a revolving door, that's not the way a band should be, how can you like anyone when it always switches up.. The album cd must have had tons of other players through the years, it's crazy

Lack of proper communication during those 10 years is the biggest problem.

I didnt say Vince Neil was bad in any way, it's just a way different situation. Hell, my other fave band just replaced their lead singer and Im not very happy about that.

But this aint the place for another discussion. Ive had plenty of them during the last 8 years and Im fed up with it.

If this was 1998 I would have agreed with you, but it's been 8 years and people from my point of view are too late. They should have said something back then and not now.

High point: RIR3 .. The band was back. Axl was back.. The Future looked bright.

Low point: RIR5.. The same setlists, still no album in sight, no new single, no website, a few new members come and gone... The same thing as 5 years ago.  Total lack of progress and not where i expected the band to be in 2006 after watching RIR3.   

Well I never really spoke about gnr after 94, kind of just looked at mags now and then and watched from a far... When I heard oh my god on teh radion in november 99 I had no clue who was in the band ,I assumed I knew being it was gnr.....

I never talked about it because I didn't get a computer until 2002 :hihi:

Thanks mikegiuliana, but if you are not a fan of the new Gn'R I guess you can't have a say. Or atleast I can't.. Those were my high and low points.  I saw alot of other posts that listed the new band as the low point...

it's no biggie some people just get too serious... Like what you like, dislike what you want as long as you're a gnr fan of one of these groups

Same as the first post... Blowing the roof off of the VMA's in 88 & sounding like Mickey Mouse out of breath @ VMA 2002...

Lol I had to rewatch the 2002 VMAs today just to see how bad it was. Just terrible. Buckethead, Fincks goth look, Axl's massive clothes and horrific vocals. Im surprised they didnt just call it a day after that.

If it's such a problem and it really causes you lots of greif and disappointment, take my advice and check out some other stuff that causes you entertainment and fun and not complaints and negative posts.

Im not a Metallica fan and therefore I do not post on their boards. I used to be an Aerosmith fan, but the CD in 2001 really turned me off and therefore I do not post at their boards anymore either.  : ok:

Obviously all these unhappy former fans think there's something interesting about the current band because they stick around....

It's not like they're here talking about the songs on AFD, Izzy's hats, Slash's tattoos or which version of You're Crazy they prefer.

If they're only interested in what the former members are doing, there's different boards for them to visit. But they still stick around....



/jarmo

but he is a gnr fan, just maybe not a big fan of the new band... If you never were a gnr fan then no doubt why be here, but if you were it's a gnr forum..

And Izzy does have some wicked hats!

I have been saying he looks like the boss :hihi:

highest point: getting the leaks and going to school the next morning and when my only friend that likes gnr and knows about the new band walked in the doors i screamed "I GOT THEM!!"  soo kick ass

lowest point: just waiting while almost everyone i know hates gnr

I've been trying to figure it out for 8 strong years now why they come to this and other boards and not boards dedicated to the old band and no one has been close to giving me an answer yet.

High: Watching Rock in Rio 3, and seeing the huge audience go ballistic while Axl owned the stage.


Low: The Spaghetti Incident, overblown music vids during the UYI era.

One of my lows to, this one.

because gnr fans like to follow the gnr name even if the lineup isn't their cup of tea... Plus you can like axl and not give two shits about anyone else to have interest in the new music...

is that any different then following adler or slash individually?

So willingly you put yourself thru disappointments and obviously all kinds of frustrations concerning this lineup just because you declared yourself a GNR fan maybe 15 years ago?

That's just rubbish mate.

I didnt follow Slash's solo career with Snakepit because I thought it was rubbish, so I didnt bother with it.

-Honestly, think about if the situations were reversed.  Let's say that Duff, Matt, and Slash got together with Wieland, and they called themselves Guns n' Roses.  And let's say Axl had a band called "The Axl Rose band."  I'll tell you what - I would bet almost anything that more people would like and follow "The Axl Rose Band." 

I DON'T follow this band because they're named Guns n' Roses.  I follow them because Axl is fuckin' awesome.   When these shows were first announced, NO ONE (except for a few people who like to claim they're "insiders") knew who was going to be on stage that first night at Hammerstein.  And you know what?  I didn't care, because Axl was going to be there.  There are more people like me, than people who "love Tommy" or "love Robin."  Those guys aren't bad, but they could throw anyone out there to play Appetite songs, and as long as Axl was there, that's fine by me.

Even though you make some good points, I think it's a bit unfair to state that. While I couldnt PROVE that the lineup would be the same, I had EVERY reason to believe it was the same guys plus a new guitar player.


If that had happened and say, I didnt like it, I would DEFINETELY not be here bitching and moaning about it but rather do something fun.

the high point will come in fall/late fall and the low point is bucket leaving.  get over the past.

Fair enough, but isn't a new guitar player a big deal? ?But that's what I found funny about it: ?Unless it was Slash, no one cared!! ?Sure, there was some speculation of guys that only guitar die-hards knew, but once the lights went up, I looked at that guy (Bumblefoot) and said "OK, I have no clue who that guy is. ?Now where's Axl." ?I think that I'm in the majority here. ? I won't get into an "old vs. new" debate again for the millionth time, but I will say that I follow the new "band" because that' where Axl is. ?In my opinion, he has the most unique voice in rock music. ?THAT'S who I go to see.

-DCK, I also understand your point about moving on if you didn't like it, but that's essentially what I did with VR. ?I had (and still don't) have any interest in what they're doing, no matter what they call themselves. ?Because Scott Weiland is not Axl Rose, and Duff and Matt aren't important enough to me. ?They can be replaced.

And anyone who says "Move on" with the new band, I am.  I'm moving on with whoever is playing behind Axl. 

high points- being so close to Axl in RiR and being so fucking proud of being a GNR fan that day, Axl?s voice (now and then)...

low points- axl?s braids :no: :'(, axl?s new pimp-like style, slash leaving, three guitar players in the band (not that I don?t like time, I actually do, just think three are not needed, at least to play the old songs, that will just put ppl comparing them to Slash)....



Off-topic (or not): guys I think we gotta be a bit more comprehensive here... This is a forum so it?s pretty normal ppl come here and write their opinions on the topics... I just don?t get why all ppl that come here and just say they prefer the old band, are treated like morons or as if they should shut up or not being here and whatever. God, what?s the problem about saying they prefer the old band? That?s so pretty normal indeed. In my case, although prefering the old one I support this new band. But some don?t... and we gotta respect that. I think the new guys are great and the new songs too. But you gotta see that as this band is still called GNR ppl will ALWAYS compare them to the old band... it?s inevitable! And by playing so many AFD songs and all that, it will just put ppl thinking about the old band. I don?t have a formed opinion on if this new band should or not be called GNR... But one thing I know for sure, all this old band vs new band would just end if the name was different. This new band would have its own reputation and popularity, they would play only their songs, u kno all of that. But then, where would we hear the old songs again? In our computers? That?s the problem down here... lol this is all very complex indeed. This all to say that we?re here just for one thing- GNR... It doesn?t matter if we prefer the old band or just this new one, or even just Axl lol... or am I in the wrong board too to think this way? ::)

High: Chris Pitman joining the band

Low: Mickey Mouse Gig at WMA's

Its not that some people are treated as morons...its just ?(and I may be speaking out of my ass here) but I got the feeling this is a pro-now gnr forum. If someone wants to take a crap on the new band surely they can go to another forum and do that. Or just post in dead horse.Because everytime I hear someone say I prefer Slash this or Duff that I just hope that the forum guys (or girls) just take the subject to dead horse so I dont have to read it. As for the name we all know why axl has got it and there is no need to regurgitate it here. If he wants to call it that it is his right.

It just that EVERY SINGLE THREAD doesn't have to be reduced to old/new band bullshit. His low "point" isn't a "point" at all. It's been going on for years and years now so it's not really one low point in time.

It was just yet another way to say something stupid about the new band.

how come allman bros fans dont really bitch cause dicky is gone? 

No because I follow axl rose... That's what I'm saying, I don't need to be into a member beside axl to still want to hear the music or see him perform live... It's like following any ex member, who cares about the people in their bands, the interest is in them..

high point:see them in budapest 2006 and ron and finck in the band

low point: duff,slash and mat ballshit about Axl

Regarding Bumblefoot you are quite right. Most people don't care, they will care as time goes by but most don't care. I care about Robin Finck, a member of GNR for a whopping 10 years, or Tommy Stinson, a member of 8 years. I would have known who he was by seeing him as I knew who he was and even mentioned him to Tommy in 2004 even before HE know anything about him.

I do follow VR a bit, it's just that it doesnt really thrill me. I go where the fun is and I dont seek frustration and anger by will.

Thats where my interest lies also...



/KFed

So, you feel the positive sides to this GNR outnumbers the negative?

Or do you wanna follow Axl Rose despite being frustrated and annoyed all the time?

The last one doesnt add up for me.

Yes the positive sides to this GnR outnumber the negative.. anything that gets Axl out of his house playing music is good for me.. Im a huge Axl rose fan...i have been for years.. i have a portrait of the guy tattooed on my leg.... i love the guy and his music.

Im frustrated and annoyed because i have seen this show before.. this setlist, this lack of info, the same songs and excuses for the last 6 years...  I expect more from this band.  I dont want to hear the same songs or setlist at RIR 5 that i heard at RIR3.... If hes gonna do that just put the old band back together and play the hits.... 

If not stfu about CD and the "Big Guns"... 


time to shit or get off the pot axl.... even some of your diehards are getting pissed.

High points:
- discovering my fetish for music made with attitude = discovering AFD
- VMA '88
- The return of a "real" band at hammersteins (even though i wasn't there
-Rock Am Ring 2006. That sow was so fucking cool i was litterally scared sometimes through out the show

Low Points:
- 1993 until 2002
- VMA 2002 (nightmares anyone?)
- december 2002 until early 2006

High point - Watching the band in 2006 at Rock am Ring (dream come true)

Low Point(s) - Chancelled tour in 2001 (had tickets for 2 shows, that was bitter to read that mail), Buckethead being in the band, Axl's new high pitched voice from 2001-2002, Axl in HipHop clothes, since 2001 only old material except for 3 or 4 songs/show

Please 20% die hards or please 80% of the rest

High point: seeing a sneak peak of the world premier of the "Patience" video on MTV a week before it was released.  It was this video which got me into the band and the rest was history.   :peace:

Low point: speaking as a long-time fan, the low point for me has to be the departure of Izzy Stradlin from the full-time lineup in 1991.  By this point I was so into the band and I was listening to the Illusion albums every day after school over and over again.  When it was announced Izzy left, I had bad feeling.  Am I not the only one?  Even then, I knew it was the beginning of the end when he left the band.  Steven could be replaced, but not Izzy, as he was very instrumental in the bands projects and lyric writing, whereas Adler had very little overall input.  At the time, I thought Matt kicked ass, and the band rocked.  I was never a big fan of Gilby either.  Of course, I was right, Izzy's departure was the beginning of the end,  and the band has still yet to cut an album of original material since. 

The band just had a different feel after Izzy left.  The YCBM video ranks as one of my most favorites just for the small Izzy parts (even though he forsook the final scene with Ahnold).  Don't Cry, NR and Estranged would have all been better videos with Izzy.  OK, OK... enough of my rant, but I think I'm on to something here.  People saying the 2002 VMA's were the low point haven't been a fan since 1988 I suppose, because there were so many much lower points for the band before 2002.   By 2002, the cancellation of the tour and the lack of an album came as very little surprise to most who had lived and died with the band since the 80's.   I don't think any of us were quite ready for Izzy's departure.

High: 1986 'till 1993, seeing them in 1993 in Nijmegen, GnR returning to a rock 'n roll band on the 2006 tour! Axl in public again!

Low: Departure of the old members and the arival of Buckethead and Chris Pittman, songs like Oh my God and Silkworms, Axl's clothing and style in 2002 getting all exited about the 2002 tour and seeing that Axl turned what once was the greatest rock 'n roll band on the planet into a freakshow.? :'(..........and still waiting for the release of something that probably is never gonna be as good again as it once was.

there's many highs and many lows, but i will narrow them down to one of each....

HIGH: june 1991 concert in philly -  a fight breaks out in the front row during WTTJ and axl stops the music and goes off on this guy big time. i'm thinking a riot is gonna break out. then axl says to take it from the top, so i get to hear the first half of my favorite song ever made two times. it was incredible and something i'll never forget.

LOW: philly riot in 2002. i had that night planned in my head for years. me and 7 of my closest friends and family, most of whom had never seen guns live before. we made an entire day out of it, and even rented a limo. we had great seats and the entire day could not have been more perfect. then axl used and abused his biggest fans.   

According to newgnr.com he joined in 1996. I thought it was in 1997, but it's basically the same and the man has been there longer than Slash. He's (Finck) the longest running fulltime guitarist of GNR of all time.

And still he hasn't been featured on one single studio album... Hell, he hasn't been on a real live album either...
So he's just been on bootlegs, right? You've heard like what, 4, 5 solo's he wrote? So no singles either? Videos? No?

If CD comes out tommorow, GnR release three albums in the next 4 or 5 years, have several hit singles, have several videos in daily rotation on MTV that withstand the test of time. Well by then you could have a point. For now, Slash is the legendary lead guitarist of GnR and Fink is just his succesor, playing material that Slash helped write. I'm open to everything, and I really really really hope Fink does all the things mentioned above, really! But for now, your numbers mean nothing to me.

a small correction if you don't mind:

June 6th, 1985 - The GN'R lineup of:
W. Axl Rose (vocals)
Slash (lead guitars)
Izzy Stradlin (rhythm guitar)
Duff McKagan (bass)
Steven Adler (drums)

slash left officially in 1996 so that gives him 11 years in gnr

not tryin' to be a smartass  :peace: :beer:

Amen! 8)

No, actually I don't think there is anything interesting about the current band but their name... I think your board is great and there really isn't another place to go to talk about Gn'R with as many Gn'R fans so I come here.? I do spend 99% of the time in the Dead Horse/Vr/ and Ex- Gunner sections.. But this section is for Guns N' Roses and I pop in to see if there is anything to talk about. I generally never post in topics about the New GnR because I will have nothing good to say , although I did give my two cents on a Better post.? I posted in this topic which asked my high and low point sof GnR and I gave them and got shit for it. There ocassionaly are topics here about the future Hall Of Fame band called Gn'R that I look for.. As long as Axl's bands is called Gn'R it's gonna happen. You cannot have a band of that magnitude and not have diehard loyal fans.

High point: Growing up with the old band's music. For the new fans, I don't think you'll ever quite know what it was like to not have this new band on your mind while thinking of GNR. Yes, the new band are good, but it's just been such a mess these past 5 years or more, that it's hard to think of "GUNS N' ROSES" in the same way you could before '99. A band never captivated me like GNR did. And I don't think no band ever will again, not even present Guns N' Roses. Likewise, I can't imagine what it must have been like to experience GNR during the Appetite years. Must have been unreal.
Another high point was hearing Oh My God in 99. I thought the new CD was coming for sure! I really liked the song, and was really excited about the new band. It's been hard to keep that excitement for nearly 7 years...

Low Point:
- The 92 touring lineup... The horns and backup singers really make me sick.
- 2002 VMAs. While I was probably the most excited I had been in my life when I saw that the surprise band actually was GNR, the performance itself was terrible. That pretty much made me realize "This isn't Guns N' Roses."

That wasnt the fucking point. The point was years in GNR, not how many solos I have heard.  ::)

It doesn't matter what the point was. There are way too many people on this board that try to turn every thread into a pissing contest between the old and new band.

Your point was how long Robin has served in GNR and that it was longer then you'd thought. I feel the same way, I didn't realize how long he's been involved trying to help keep this going in the right direction. If I could call that a "point", I'd probably think of it as a high point.

Unfortenately....