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Title: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: anythinggoes on June 15, 2006, 10:34:57 AM
i would like to but a recorder that will get me a pretty decent audio bootleg where do i start

price wise no more than ?250 i would prefer it to record to memory and have enough memory for at least 3 hours recording obvoiusly i wnat the batteries to last as long as possible and the sound quality to be as good as possible is there anything out there that fits my needs?


Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: imsorry on June 15, 2006, 10:44:11 AM
http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/pub/a/oreilly/digitalmedia/2005/11/30/m-audio-microtrack-review.html?page=1

I think its a bit more expensive of your price range but not much dunno how much will cost the expansion card .... but u can give a look at it edirol has a new one too those are very PRO .  :peace:


Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: anythinggoes on June 15, 2006, 10:49:14 AM
http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/pub/a/oreilly/digitalmedia/2005/11/30/m-audio-microtrack-review.html?page=1

I think its a bit more expensive of your price range but not much dunno how much will cost the expansion card .... but u can give a look at it edirol has a new one too those are very PRO .? :peace:

nah $500 dollars is pretty close but it adding the flash card thatll bump it up id have to start selling the bootlegs instead and people wouldnt be to happy bout that here eh

thanks i will look closer into that one but looking more for one availible in the UK


Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: imsorry on June 15, 2006, 10:51:31 AM
m-audio usually to be a UK company but Avid (Digidesign)  bought it but they probably still in UK.


Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: SuicideUZI on June 15, 2006, 01:41:59 PM
if you dont want to spend the money on a MicroTrack you could always get a mini-disc player or mp3 player htat has the ability to record.  I have the iRiver H340 mp3 player and if you use the rockbox firmware on it you can record to .wav format with no time limits like the regular firmware has.  But if you want the recordings to be good quality the most important thing is probably to get good mics which can cost $200+ by themselves    http://www.soundprofessionals.com has gome good stealthy ones.   You should probably also ask advice from people on this forum:  http://taperssection.com/index.php


Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: Pandora on June 15, 2006, 02:06:30 PM
JB3 from Creative. The hard drive holds 20 GB and it records directly in WAV, therefore there is no compression,  unlike what you get with minidisc recorders. The only downside is that's it's a bit bulky, but other than that it's fine.

However, like SuicideUZI said,  I personnally recommend you to invest more into your mics than into the actual recorder. It's much much more important as far as sound quality is concerned.


Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: anythinggoes on June 15, 2006, 02:27:57 PM
JB3 from Creative. The hard drive holds 20 GB and it records directly in WAV, therefore there is no compression,? unlike what you get with minidisc recorders. The only downside is that's it's a bit bulky, but other than that it's fine.

However, like SuicideUZI said,? I personnally recommend you to invest more into your mics than into the actual recorder. It's much much more important as far as sound quality is concerned.


ok it gets more and more compicated but ill will persue this further and hopefully we will get some bootlegs from the latter uk dates from me.

Edit: ok found this http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/category.cgi?item=SONY-MZ-M100&convert_from=usa&convert_to=uk

i know its minidisc but i can cope with that 2 per shoe

it says it comes with a microphone but it wont be too good so what microphone can you suggest for ?120 or $200 approx

sorry i am going so blind into this i know shit about it all all i want is something easily sneakable into a venue i hope you trust the fact i wont be selling ;)


Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: Pandora on June 16, 2006, 04:38:11 AM
If you want something easily sneakable, a minidisc recorder is the best solution, no doubt. But I don't know much about them so I'm afraid I can't give you any recommendations.

As far as mics, I personnally bought the CMC-4 model, and I'm happy with it.  There are two types of mics : cardioid and binaural. Cardioids are unidirectional whereas binaurals are omnidirectionals. Everyone has different opinions about what's best, it's up to you to weigh up the positive and negative aspects of each.

You might also want to buy a small battery that will give extra power to your mics. This one for example :
http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-SPSB-6


Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: littleredcorvette on June 16, 2006, 04:59:04 AM
How big are these mics? Cause I'm imagining microphones like the ones singers use. What are you meant todo with them in the gig? Hold them in the air and point them at the stage? "Excuse me Mr. Security Guy, could you hold this for a second? I need to scratch my balls."


Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: Pandora on June 16, 2006, 05:08:20 AM
They're about as big as the ones you see on TV when people are being interviewed. You can clip them to your shirt/jacket.


Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: fieldsy on June 16, 2006, 05:14:08 AM
I have a mini disc recorder and it had served me well.  On the hammersmith audio thread, 1st post I have given the name of the mic.  It is a good small mic but more importantly you want a CONDENSOR mic.  This will allow you to record all the instruments in one go better.


Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: anythinggoes on June 16, 2006, 05:20:35 AM
well i took the blind gamble :nervous: and ordered the following within my ?250 budget including postage can always upgrade later if it is crap. :hihi:

Quantity: 1
Item: SONY-MZ-M100
Price: $328.25
Description: SONY MZ M100 HIMD MINIDISC RECORDER - MAC/PC COMPATIBLE MODEL. INCLUDES FREE SONY STEREO MICROPHONE. Include SP-BMC-3 Omnidirectional Stereo Microphones with clips; Include three extra blank HiMD 1gb blank disc

Quantity: 1
Item: SP-SPSB-6
Price: $49.00
Description: SOUND PROFESSIONALS MINI BATTERY MODULE. MADE IN USA. 3 inch output cable; No Bass Roll Off; No AC power adapter; Standard 2 year Warranty (no charge)



Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: Nightfall on June 16, 2006, 05:34:11 AM
you ordered this from the USA? what about the voltage?


Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: anythinggoes on June 16, 2006, 05:35:16 AM
you ordered this from the USA? what about the voltage?

its battery operated

howd you like the Dublin show in the end

(i was the one offering to send you the Hammerstien DVD) if you was wondering who i was :hihi:


Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: Nightfall on June 16, 2006, 05:40:41 AM
i thought it might have been rechargable batteries..like cellphones and such...


Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: anythinggoes on June 16, 2006, 05:41:33 AM
i thought it might have been rechargable batteries..like cellphones and such...

err shit didint think of that better check? :nervous:

edit

(http://www.qualitybatteries.co.uk/Data/PhotoSmall/NH-14WM-s.jpg)

seem to be available in England a well im sure ill get round it fingers crosses


Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: Nightfall on June 16, 2006, 05:43:57 AM


(i was the one offering to send you the Hammerstien DVD) if you was wondering who i was :hihi:
OK...i remember now ;)
Yeah i loved the show, pity though that he didn't go on untill they unplugged them ;) ... anyway...hope to see it again sometime...still to weird that we saw the entire show in daylight...
Anyway...getting ready for my trip to Paris ;)


Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: anythinggoes on June 16, 2006, 05:47:43 AM

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Yeah i loved the show, pity though that he didn't go on untill they unplugged them ;) ...
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that i would of loved to see

anyways seems my problem wont be a problem so thats ok  :peace: : ok:


Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: Nightfall on June 16, 2006, 05:53:40 AM
i thought it might have been rechargable batteries..like cellphones and such...

err shit didint think of that better check? :nervous:

edit

(http://www.qualitybatteries.co.uk/Data/PhotoSmall/NH-14WM-s.jpg)

seem to be available in England a well im sure ill get round it fingers crosses
perhaps...but isn't the whole minidisc set for only getting 120 volts instead of 220/240?


Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: anythinggoes on June 16, 2006, 06:01:23 AM
ill find a way round it no worries  :nervous:  : ok:

thanks


Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: Nightfall on June 16, 2006, 06:04:41 AM
it's your money ;)
Anyway...i hope it works out well!


Title: Re: equipment for bootlegging audio
Post by: anythinggoes on June 16, 2006, 10:55:27 AM
it's your money ;)
Anyway...i hope it works out well!

well just round a charger for the battery so it will be fine now pretty good only $17 inc a new battery and postage  :D