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some website called rock sound has been emailing people its "official news" saying duff is joining guns on the europian tour.

Anyone know why they are saying this?

Because people are always saying Duff, Slash, Matt or whoever will rejoin Gn'R at some point. But who knows what can happen? I mean, this isn't any reunion talk, Izzy did it.

Perhaps they mean Izzy...

there will always be rumours

im sure they ment Izzy..

u have a source for the rumours..? ?: ok:

Untill I get proof that Duff is there all that talk is bs. ;)

more moronic bullshit

The thing is that Duff were/is set to play bass for Alice In Chains and they were to open for G&R...

is Tommy happy in Guns or would he prefer Soul Asylum?       

I think he would be happier in Soul Asylum. I don't know much about them but wasn't that the band that made him big, and isn't he an original member in Soul Asylum. I think he'd be more appreachiated in SA then GnR

fuck for that,i don't wanna see duff mckagan in gunsnroses again

Tommy is realy good man and player

And showed some attitude Duff never had.

i think tommy have a better time in gnr!!!
He have abigger shows,and every misician have a dream to play with bigger crowd

Is any1 else like me, they want this new band to play and wants the new record. If we are going to have any old members that werent in the band as of the beginning of this tour, then it has to be a full blown original reunion (Adler or Sorum) and Chinese Democracy has to be put on the shelf. If the old band reunited, they would do their own material and we wouldn't see this chinese democracy that we all want.

Tommy is an original member of a punk band called the Replacements.

Not Soul Asylum. Hes only toured with that band due to their bass player = dead. And they are a Minnesota band just like the Mats. So they have his respect.

Your really don't know much so dont comment on something you dont know for sure. thanks.

so these emails are a load of shit then lol?

Yes.
The closest thing Duff will be G&R, if he playes with Alice In Chains, is two days.

http://www.novarock.at/fileadmin/novarock/pdf/zeitplan_novarock.pdf

Ugh I hope none of them rejoin, as much as I like (the old) GnR, I think that Brain is better than Matt, and I like Bumble/Finck alot too... I hope all those who left GnR are pissed now that they are making a comeback and wish they never bailed on axl...

Duff is spineless, why would we want him back?

why everyone bad mouthing duff, great bass player n writer!

agreed i love duff.

I am but I doubt that any guest appearance could be a serious threat for the band and its Chinese Democracy. Cos I should think that Axl is also like you and takes this band over whatever else and so does everyone in the band.
Donno about the people who are nomore in the band but possibly if they are happy about that for Axl and happy about themselves, they may well be willing to appear on the stage for GNR as GUESTs, like Izzy.

I want democracy as much as the next guy but lets not forget what songs got us into Guns N Roses, and what musicians played on them. AS much as I love Bumble/robin/tommy and all the new guys, they didnt write Jungle, or November Rain.

duff rocks, but i dont think he's coming back. I love stinson so i dont really want him back.

bullshit - Duff had attitude to burn

Tommy is cool, sure, but why bag Duff?

I'm going to get bashed for saying this, but Bumblefoot is better than any guitarist GnR has ever had.
Well it's only my opinion.  :hihi:

Yes! He is by far the best foot-shaped guitar player GNR has ever had.  :smoking:

I do love Bumble though... But its all about the Finck.

saw Duff jam with Phil Anselmo and Alice in Chains on VH1 Classic at the Heart special which was interesting..From Axl to Weiland to Anselmo...Interesting group....

Wow! Just when you thought you heard and saw it all, something new pops up. Duff has no attitude?! Wtf! If it wasn't for Duff, you wouldn't have ISE and PC. As for Bumblefoot being the greatest GNR guitarist, I disagree. I think Bumblefoot is good. I was very impressed by him at ?the NYC show. However, the greatest guitarist for GNR will always be Slash. Slash put his heart and soul into GNR. You ?can't duplicate the guy's passion. That passion is what made Slash the best!

i just dont understand what tommy has done thats so great, no one knows yet, i hope he worked some mastery on chinese democracy but until we find out  i dont know ow you can want him over duff, duff writes some of the smoothest bass lines ive ever heard, but i think you would have to have slash duff package for duff to be the appetite/uyi duff.  wow i just said duff like 8 times, now i wanna duff beer.

It takes a whole lot of attitude to be completely obliterated and incoherent 24 hours a day... ?

Yeah, lol, Duff could barely speak most of the UYI tour  :hihi: Makes for some hilarious interviews and stuff.

I'd agree on technique...he's faster than slash, and seems to be able to keep the soul of the songs closer than Bucketdid...but slash is the composer...bumble is cool...but its big shoes to fill to write as many amazing riffs and solos as slash has. Hell i like them both anyway.

Just ask Tommy what he was like in the 80's. The was getting completely wasted by age 12.

so, to put it all in prospective he's only filling duff's shoes!

WTF?! LOL!... don't be stupid.

Tommy is great, and in my opinion the man who is best suited to filling Duff's shoes but like so many people are saying we can't diss the guy who gave us the intro to ISE!!

Duff is da man!!? : ok:

At Graspop (Belgium) AIC and GNR play on the same stage, the same day, an hour or 3, 4 apart...

Thats insane. You would probably have said that no matter who was chosen. He's been in the band for a millisecond and hasnt contributed anything, but you think he's the best GNR guitarist ever? Gimme a break. ::)

What!? Duff's got attitude like none I've ever seen before.
He used to sing "Attitude" live btw ;)

So what if he's been in the band for a millisecond and hasn't contributed anything? Didn't I say that's MY opinion? I never said he IS the best guitarist, I was saying what I THINK, if you don't think so, good for you. It's not only because he is in the band, but also because I love his solo work.

If you like his solo work, thats completely different. But the guy cant even properly replicate what BH was doing, so I dont see how anyone could label him as the best GNR guitarist ever.

Ok this is going to be a rant. So sorry if it shits people off. Basicly I just want to say the new band is cool, like tommy is a cool guy, and so is Robin. But guess what? It doesn't make them cooler to slag off at the old band. And guess what else - they don't need to do that, cos they play just fine on their own. You know like Robin's solo in the blues is gold - it sits on his own merrit - it doesn't need to be backed up by people posting insults at Slash. Likewise slashs solos back in the day were fantastic.

Duff wrote some great bass parts, particularly on AFD which is far more complex bass parts than than it needed to, that is to say he could have got away with less, and duff has a ton of attitude to go with it.

That's not to say tommy isn't a good player, but just cos he is good it doesn't make duff bad. Its not like the flipside to a coin folks.

 And if anything I think statements of that kind are a disservice to the new guys. You know why? Because it distracts attention from their talents and onto pointless comparisions. And in some cases the need to push a favourate by insulting others simply detracts from the credibility of the poster's argument as a whole.

for example...when people post things like "Robin is cool, the blues is awesome, slash couldn't play his way out of a paper bag" and stuff like that. I mean - slash is world recgonised as one of the best guitarists of his generation - and is the admitted author of a huge percentage of the guitar riffs and solos in many of the songs we all agree are awesome songs! So such a statement is idiotic - and the part of the statement that wasn't bullshit - the bit about robin also being cool, and also writing great music is lost amongst the haze of rubbish.

In short, i'm not having a go at mandy or anyone in particular, I'm just saying it drives me mental for all this negativity for either the old or the new band, and this apparent need to support a favourite by saying that the replacement/forerunner to that favourate was crap - when the relality is that these are all outstanding musicians.

Furthermore - the irony is - i think the band wouldn't hold these grudges. Like Axl and Slash - whatever BS is between them - neither ever seems to say that the other can't sing/play. And I strongly doubt that Robin would dislike slash's playing or that slash wouldn't like robin's blues solo. And would tommy bag duff - or duff tommy? Some of these people might have their personal issues or whatever (and others who knows if they've even met or care) - but in the end - i think they would all appriciate that the others have talents - and we should too.

Sorry to complain and rant! :peace:

As someone said up there, his technique is great. Yeah, he has just joined, and I think he's got a lot of potential in the band, more than BH if you ask me. Not only him, but I really like GNR's current guitarists.

Now, there's no need to carry on with this pointless discussion... How boring would the world be if everyone thought the same?

I'm desperately looking for the "I bow to thee" emoticon here...

the whole duff with no attitude, does anyone not remember how most live shwos whilst playing its so easy he would stand next to axl and give the middle finger?

I actually agree with you there.
Just to clear some things up, I like Duff as much as anyone, and he's one of my fav original members.




By the way, I know you didn't say that, but I never said he had no attitude, people are making things up? :nervous: What I meant was, I could never picture Duff doing what Tommy did at Download, that's all.

Oh he didn't? Then I've missed something..

if ur pissed off with the crowd, raise above it, not take it out on the cameraman, it don't look cool n it's kinda of childish!

I think the next third guitarist will be GN'R's best guitarist! Ever! It's only my opinion though

Ahh ok...fair enough...I didn't mean to be having a go at you anyway : ok: I just get wound up - anyway - I agree with you that bumblefoot is cool, I hope he stays in post the tour....

I totally agree and I never liked BH. I think Ron is a very talented guitarist from what I heard at Hammersmith and I also love the way he is very sociable with the fans, both in person and online. Great addition to the group and somone who I think can establish himself as a fans favourite if given a chance.

if you had tommy's solo album you might understand.

because it is from the parallel  universe in which truth is  inverted.

Well said mate. Duff is the man.

i love the way as soon as a classic Guns member get mentioned on this board everyone starts saying 'Slash is a cock' 'Duff is spineless' - WTF.

I guess being spineless is walking away from the biggest band in the world, sorting your health out, going to college, starting a family, whilst still being able to rock without resorting to making sniping childish comments to the press about his former bandmates. Unlike certain folk.

Duff you ol' jellyfish you....