Here Today... Gone To Hell!

first ron was told to learn it
now this

http://bkatrin.fotki.com/2006/dublin/dsc03009-1.html

Man I want to hear the studio version of this song... I just wonder how its evolved over the years. :drool:

Does this mean its going to be on CD

Can someone tell me where I can find an MP3 of it?

I love the song, my favourite along with Better! :rockon:

But why they didn't play the song yet? :(

I think it means it will at least be a b-side.

Why the hell would they play a song, or have Ron learn a song, if the fans will never hear it on an album? With their set list being as it is there's really no reason to play it otherwise.

I'm pretty sure they had it at newgnr.com (http://newgnr.com). I know you can find it on their "radio."

Well tommy did ask during i think the dublin show, can we play a song we have not played in a long time ( I ?think he meant riyadh) and ask said no and wanted to play better

ya think they changed the song title to just "rhaid"?

i don't think it means it will be on the album for sure, it could be on the 2nd album.... or it could be a b-side.
i bet they have at least 20-30 songs we haven't even heard of yet!

I like the song and Id welcome a return to it this tour.  : ok:

I still have this feeling its not going to make CD.

Or maybe it was TWAT. But I see your point, looks like Rhiad indeed. Hope they play it at least on smaller gigs.

No, they put it that way on the setlist because its easier to read. They did the same on 2002.

Thanks, but it didn't seem to be there.

My guess is it will probably show up as a b-side on one of the first couple of singles.

Would be nice to hear them play it at least a couple of times on this tour ...

Ill yousend it give me 5

Either way I want to hear the studio versioin

vegas Rhiad And The Bedouins remastered by "imsorry"

 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NNCXDH7I

This song definitely has potential. Would love to hear a finished studio version.

This one i think is a little better http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4DTEELBR

the one i PMd to him was the best

id love a studio ryhiads

It seems a lot of people are assuming that, but I don't think so. In my opinion that list of 7 songs means two things:

1) Rhiad has the same chance of being on the album today as it did in 2001, when they first played it.

2) Oh My God and Silkworms are very likely to not be on the album.

Now, regarding 1), I don't think the chances are that good, considering they don't play the song very often. They're working on 32 songs to be on the album, so the final list could be anything.

And for those who don't know yet, when the song was first played Axl introduced it by saing "This is totally under development" or something along those lines. I can't wait to hear a demo of it.

i personally think it will be on the album and is probably alot different than 01 and alot better!

also.. demo-wise...

we will not hear any more demo's of CD. nothing more until it is released.

Theyve slipped once, and there not going to let it happen again.

So can u share with everybdoy or tell from what gig it was?

dave, are you interested in another one of our Riyadh debates? :rofl:

I do not think this song is album worthy, especially on an album that has 13 tracks. Sounds like filler to me. :nervous: If it was a double album, then I could see there being room for it. But with supposedly 20 "A-List" tracks, I see no reason whatsoever how Riyadh comes into the equation. This song is such a fucking mess. The music is pretty good, but the lyrics are absolute garbage.

In my opinion, it will be on the album. With CD supposedly coming out in a few months, there is no reason to consider playing new songs that wont be on the album. Which means Madagascar will likely make the album as well. If this is correct, here is Cd so far:

CD
IRS
The Blues
TWAT
Better
Madagascar
Riyadh

Thats 7 songs on a 13 track album. Add This I Love and Prostitute, thats 9. Only leaves room for 4 more. General? Thyme? Seven? CITR? There's also a few more I cant remember at the moment. At what point were possible "Big Guns" decided to be scrapped in favor of Riyadh?

Having said that, I would like to hear a studio version of this song. I would like to hear how the vocals sound on the song, and also to see if any changes were made to those amateur lyrics. But I think it is more worthy of a demo leak, a B side, or a soundtrack. I dont think it is worthy of being on the most mythical album in history.

If it were a triple album I wouldn't use it as an excuse for filler considering the obvious.

Its hard to make a judgement on whether it will be album worthy from just the live cuts weve heard (obviously). It was clearly a work in progress then, but I think its got a lot of potential. For one thing, its using Axl's voice in ways we havent heard before. It could turn out very interesting.

But, one objection I would have to it so far is that it really doesnt suit the mood of the album (if the likely candidates such as Chinese Democracy, Better, TWAT etc. are considered representative of CD). Same reason I wouldnt want CITR on the album as it is right now.

But who knows, considering how little we know of whats happened to either the song or the album in the last 4 years, its hard to say  :nervous:

Good point, and I feel the same. I have listened to all the CD songs in a row, and songs(in my opinion) that kill the flow are Madagascar, Riyadh, and TWAT. But I think CITR fits in nicely. I guess we all have varying opinions on why certain songs fit, and others dont. There will be some interesting debates when the album is released. :smoking: :beer:

You never know though, I think with just a little production tweaking they could all fit very well in the album. Thats the hard thing about making an album for so long, which I honestly believe has been happening. As easy as it is to conclude, I dont think the band has just been dicking around and these leaking demos from different times support that work is being done. Anyway, as a result CD is getting songs coming from very different times and places and they might not fit as a cohesive album. Its almost like a greatest hits album where weve never heard the stuff. The upside of course of having a long production time is there are more songs to choose from hopefully.

But, who knows. I like to speculate about CD (why I think were here) but I have no fucking clue as to what it will be like in the end. I am confident that itll be good, but if not, Ill make myself like it  :beer:

Yeah you lost the last riyadh debate when 70% of the forum liked the song and 30% didnt when you claimed everyone hated the song, you got owned on that one? :rofl:

I want Riad to be released for sure at least as a b side.....

Im dying to hear a studio version of that song.

I didn't lose shit, dave. You were losing the debate, and then you had to have Jarmo let you do a little poll that about 20 people voted in. I consider all the disinterest in the poll as a 'No' against Riyadh. : ok:

Do you really want to do the poll again? Over 60 people voted in the poll not 20. I dont now why you have to lie. Just look at this thread for example, pretty much everyone likes the song. Go ahead and make the poll. Oh and your little comment about the disinterest in the poll, yeah I guess 60 people voting was not good enough for you  ::)

It wasn't an intentional lie. :rofl: That was over a year ago. I dont remember the exact number. You must have the memory of an elephant. :hihi:



Bring on the new poll. : ok: :smoking: :beer:

Did you not understand that this track was still unfinished? If you think the music is pretty good you should be looking forward to see how the song evolved, instead of automatically assuming it will be on the album (and complaining about that).

Also, the band is working on 32 songs, don't assume you know the name of 9 that will be on the album.

We have went over why there is a strong possibility that Riyadh could be on the album. Read that thread before automatically jumping on me with your usual criticizm.

It saddens me that their still dragging that awful mess with them, and that it, is considered an equal to TWAT as an alternative
I'm also starting to wonder exactly how many songs as he done, considering we ain't heard anything new and this song is still been carried  :no:

I just wanna know why half of the people that "love" this song spell it "Riyadh" as opposed to the correct spelling of Rhiad.

Because Riyadh is the correct spelling.

Maybe because it's a difficult word to spell ::)

I think it is hard to vote either way on this way. All we have are some bootlegs, no demos, no studio sounds, we don't know how much of the song has changed over the past few years. I'll hold my judgement until it is released or played in one of the gigs. I do have to say, so far, I'm not a big fans. Haven;t listened to the song in ages, which would be an indication that it never stuck on me. I do listen to the boots of the Blues, and the leaks of Better and CITR. But again, maybe I will absolutely head over heels in love with this song once I hear the studio version.

The proper spelling is riyadh just because the set list spells it wrong doesnt mean its correct. Look it up on google. Its riyadh.

Exactly, that set list spells Nightrain wrong too.

I think they should throw it in the setlist and subtract a solo or two, maybe the Fortus/Finck "Beautiful" solo should get taken out, I didn't really care for it when I saw GnR at Hammerstein.

beautiful should stay imo but the other noodling can get discarded. don't need a solo before sweet child or the other stuff. godfather was a staple for so long and a great choice at that. maybe beautiful can fill that void for now even though nothing seguays into it all that well. with godfather you could go into rocket queen, pretty tied up, bad obsession.........anything with drum intro. 

anyone know what the numbers near the song names meam?  :hihi:

Richard wrote in an e-mail (in a year? or in two years?) that Rhiad was A-listed. I think it'll be on CD, otherwise Axl didn't make Ron learn the song.

Thats what Im wondering.

I have the idea that it might be priority numbers with 1 being the highest (all the essentials are listed as "1" if I remember correctly). Then again, IRS at 9? Hmm.

EDIT: Upon review, that idea is actually ridiculous. Maybe its a guide for the lighting, with different numbers meaning different lighting settings?

Whatever it is, Im curious.

im sure your right

i doubt it has to do with the order of the songs and stuff..

probably about the lighting or something technical..


nothing important  ::)

Id just like to say that i love Rhaid...ive allways said id love to hear a studio version.. :beer:
I hope its on CD..I dont think CITR will be on cd..Didnt Axl say it would be on the second cd?? :peace:

Where would someone look that up since there's no official source that I know of?

The dictionary or a world map.

I see. Thanks for the info.

I've only heard 1 version of this song, I'm not sure when it is from or anything, but it sounds quite good. Not one of my favourites from the new ones, probably out of all of the ones that they have in the 'maybe' list, and the new ones they play in the set, it would be my least favourite. However, I think that they will have improved this song (which I already think is pretty good, don't get me wrong!) '02, actually, really it is pretty inevitable, as Axl's voice has improved since then. I'm sure they will throw it in the set soon enough. Actually, I'm quite surprised they didn't play it at Download, since Axl was obviousley enjoying himself, "I don't want to go home" and they played everything else on that list. Looks like we won't be hearing much Silkworms from now on!

I asked Bumblefoot if they were going to play Rhiad (I mentioned him learning it and sent him that picture of the setlist) and this is what he replied:


 << You guys rocked at Download.

Thanks so much! We did our thang, didn't let anyone or anything stop us :)

<< Hey, play Rhiad already.

lol! In time... :)

bbf

You should ask him if they ever rehearsed it with Axl singing it... and asked him how he thought it sounded.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the song.  In my opinion, it's easily forgettable and rather dull.  I would much rather hear it left off the setlist if it meant TWAT was performed.  For some reason, I've got this funny feeling that when I'm at the Paris show, they'll play it.  I was at the Detroit show when they performed it any my opinion didn't change much.  Please play TWAT and then if you really want to, play Rhiad...

Cheers,

Andrew

In the trunk interview axl said they were practicing a song from the 3rd album. Any chance they were talking about riyadh here.

He said working on. I think it was a new song they were writing

I wonder if Ron will get to play on Riyadh, if it makes it to the third album.

Oh, cocking hell. Y'mean we could've had TWAT or IRS at Dublin? Arse.  :rant:

SG

I sure hope they play it in Stockholm and Roskilde! :drool: