Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Does anyone know how/why/who leaked this song?
I'm just curious.

And also, is it possible that this song is indeed "The General"
Look at the lyrics, it would make sense.

The whole thing leaked now? :(

Did i miss something?

Uh-oh.

Frozen?  :hihi: What do you think?

So, the whole song has been leaked?

Whole thing never leaked...

Thought so...

but merck was talking about that it wasn't a gn'r song.. you think he was only talking bullshit or what?

Why would he admit it was a guns n roses song, only 15 seconds of it ever leaked....

to admit it was a gnr song would just make more people want it and try to pry the leak loose.

actually, razz had it, he got it from "in town terry" or somethin like that, then he gave it to Dave and some random dude gave it to me, then me &dave released it.. and no, the whole thing hasnt leaked yet.? :hihi:
yall can listen to the 16 seconds of checkmate here?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=y7i-r45GAmQ&search=new%20gnr%20checkmate

so razz has the whole song? and does anyone know who does?

what are the lyrics then? surely to come to some conclusion on whether the song is "The General" or not, you'd need to hear at least the verse and chorus? I haven't heard the clip, but i heard its really short so i think it may be a bit hasty to start speculating at the moment  :hihi:

yeah there you have a point.. but those 16 seconds was great i think.. sounds so much like axl.. i think that it's kinda hard to hear the lyrics. what is the lyrics in your eares? if you understand what i meen..

i wish

ok after listening a bunch of times just now this is what i came up with.

Checkmate Lyrics
All cautions made
Every chance we're given
No effort spared
To save what we had
All in good faith

Also, someone told me that Axl a while back said "The General" starts off with loud drums or something of that sort which is what we hear from this leak. So yeah anyway..the lyrics i wrote seem something of a war so that is why i said The General might be this song.

it could be anything..

hmm think i'm gonna listen to it now and try real hard to hear the lyrics hehe..

oh ok then.... i guess we'll find out........ "soon"!!!!

I can honestly say that i am 99.999 percent sure my lyrics i posted are correct.

yeah i think so to.. i think i've also read that lyrics in another post somewhere else... anyway.. i'm with you on the lyrics sounds like you're right

i still have yet to here this, can someone let me know where i can find it? i tried soulseek & kazaa, no luck

^look at Frozen Inferno's post about 10 up and there is a link to it there.

not sure if that is really axl or just someone who almost sounds like axl

I know I'm in the minority but I honestly do not believe it's Axl.  Listen to it loud, the thing is every leak I've heard I immediately knew it was Axl (including CITR) and this one does not give me that immediate certainty.  If I'm wrong I'm wrong but I don't think so.

you honestly dont know axl. open your ears hun

I saw a video on YouTube with a clip of "Check-mate" and the poster claims to have the full version, and his email is chrisshaw_7@hotmail.com. I've been trying to contact him with MSN but I haven't caught him online when I've been on.

thats not gnr... sorry its just not. The only way that is gnr is if it was made back in the appetite days....

To me, it sounds more like:

Every chance was given

Yeah.

All cautions made
Every chance was given
No effort spared
To save what we had

I agree. I have also heard this clip over and over, very loud, and its obvious its not Axl. I no longer care about this clip. More of it would have leaked by now if it was GNR.

I may be wrong, but I wouldn't bet any money on it.

i just listened to this clip VERY loud again and again and again

and im still deffinetly convinced that it is Axl.

I really don't think this is GNR either, although it does sound very similar to Axl's voice. The song just seems too generic and boring to be something Axl put together.

its 15 seconds of the song.

if this is indeed gnr... i guarntee this will be very complex and amazing

i still think it says...

all cultures made.....

no, damnit, its cautions..  >:( cautions  ;D

The reason I think there's uncertainty over whether its' Axl singing or not-- is because he is using effects on his vocals. I, for one, think that it is Axl.

i am prety convinced that this voice belongs to Axl

sounds good to me.

"and it's geting closer....closer to us......."

If it is GNR (which I don't think it is), it would be quite a new sound for them (although its only 16 sec).

I knew you were a leaker, but I didn't know you also leaked Checkmate  :hihi:

Yet, huh?  Is that to say it inevitably will?  Perhaps "soon"?

I appreciate your difference of opinion but not the sarcasm. I am a long time GNR fan from the 80's and most certainly do recognize Axl's voice as well as anybody.  No doubt this has similarities or could even be Axl, I'm just saying I don't think it is.  Ever heard White Xmas...that sounds a bit like him too, but it's not.  It could just be the quality of the recording but I have listened to it over and over and I don't think it's him.   

I think its "All fortunes made" How do you make a caution?

The 4 lines are talking about taking every precaution to make sure things would work out.

Like "We were very careful not to fuck up what he had this time, we spared no effort, and gave it every chance we could."

All cautions made--
every chance was given--
no effort spared,
to save what we had.

I'm sorry, I just had to laugh.

First, someone says that the full song isn't out there.

Then someone says I have a clip, which I got from someone else.

The next comment? "So RazZ has the full song?"

I love people. Really.

Anyway, Frozen basically got the gist of it. I got it from In Town Terry, yadda yadda.....

 And hey, great. It's not real apparently. Can someone figure out where it's from. I mean, it sounds like a kick ass song. The band that made it deserves credit after all.

Wait. Merck said it was fake? Nevermind. It's a G'n'R tune

its fake

It has Axl written all over the song, If it is indeed a leak then someone must have spent alot of time mastering Axl. It even has the sound quality from around the catcher sessions. It even sounds like Josh Freese on the track.

I'll take a yousendit.com link please.  ;D

Its faker than Pam Anderson's tits. Funny how some people say its the best song they've ever heard. :rofl:

It's probably just as funny to them when you say it's a fake.  ;)

I heard the clip a while back, and I find it strange how people can't recognize Axl's voice. Do they spend all their time on a certain message board talking about Guns instead of listening to them?  ::)

Just kidding. It's all good. We'll all have it confirmed "eventually".  :beer:

So...are you willing to say that without a doubt this is Guns N Roses and Axl singing?   You mean to say you have no doubts whatsoever?

I think it's "every chance was given" ...

I know for sure its gnr.. so does dave2k.. listen to catcher, its fucking axl's voice.

It definitely does sound like Axl.

Listen to the intro of better, does that sound like axl if only that chorus was leaked? No one would have believed that was guns n roses.

I've been listening to Axl & co. repeatedly/consistently since '87.? From 87 to 93 I listened to GNR every-friggin-day.

THAT is without a doubt Axl.? He's singing in a key different than his norm no doubt.?

Remember that girl in that band (sorry i forget) that Axl was talking to in LA right around the time he started hitting parties and clubs??? The blond??? Anyway she stated that Axl told her that he was going to be getting away from the screetching style singing.

Which leads me to another thing, I believe we should all enjoy and appreciate the current setlist as someday it may end up being rare to hear material from AFD.

Makes sense if Axl wants to be able to save his voice for the future.

AND if that is not Axl, then I want to know who the hell that is because that clip as ABSOLUTELY OFF THE HOOK FUCKING INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!

C'mon people, if that was from an existing band other than GNR they would be beyond well known.

I know Axl's voice when I hear it. No doubt.

imo

i take it he never got back to you

He does not have it, he claims someone put up his email addy saying he had the full song as a joke

No argument with this statement  :hihi:.