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Is The Blues the new Don't Cry?  Meaning, is it that power ballad that the public is going to connect with and turn into a huge hit.  They are both soft, meaningful songs that are about the same subject and both have great guitar work.  I really think The Blues is going to turn into a huge hit the way Don't Cry did.

i dont think its anywhere close to dont cry...

I agree.

Wait to hear the studio version first, the lyrics in the blues are better.

It will be better than Don't Cry.

indeed.

I think the Blues is going to prove much more timeless than Dont Cry - DC has aged kind of badly compared to a lot of their other stuff.

I love the Blues.

Not a Chance.

well maybe The Blues.
The blues vs Estranged,definitely Estranged : ok:.

I love the blues too! epic song, girls will love it ?;D

I actually think The Blues will probably be better than Don't Cry as well. We can't know for sure, because the studio version never actually gets released, but it would not surprise me.

I doubt that anything will top Estranged.

This I love maybe but that is it

agree too

You guys are nuts.
Don't Cry was one of the best GNR tracks ever while the Blues isn't even the best out of the 5 songs we've heard.

It's missing that real hard hitting guitar that Don't Cry had. The solo is perfect even though it's not a shred fiesta.

No. It can't top Don't Cry... Not unless they completly change it on CD.

even the best version of the blues (rir3 to my opinion) dont have a chance to top dont cry

Blues.

The Blues is already leagues above Don't Cry in terms of music and lyrics, IMO.

I found Don't Cry to be really dated, and not in a good way - the lyrics have always struck me as really corny.

i love the blues and don't cry but i think they can't be compared at all, the blues's got a different sounds and elements, it's a modern song with old classic hard rock things that's what makes it by its own a wonderful piece. it's going to be a hit just like don't cry in its time . the blues ?sounds is pure and fresh. IMO.

Are we debating if its going to be more successful, or if we like it more?  The former can be debated, the latter is pure opinion.

I don't think it will be more successful than Don't Cry, because DC hit number 10 on the hot 100.  Its hard for a rock band like GnR to do that in today's rap/hip hop era.

I personally think the blues (especially rio 3 version) is a better overall song.  But not by much.

Quiet you! Your opinion is not fact...

Anyway I think the blues has an awesome solo. More catchy than anything in don't cry.

Dont Cry is a cheesy ballad. The Blues is light years ahead of it.

I like the blues and cant wait for studio version and i personally think that it will be better than Dont Cry!

 :beer:

"The Blues" is a much deeper, heavier song than "Don't Cry." Lyrics wise, I think "The Blues" is a stronger song. Music wise, I'm not as sure. I love Slash's guitar solo in "Don't Cry" (luckily he surived that hellacious car crash so he could still play it!). I agree with the reviewers who said that "Don't Cry" has aged a little more than other GNR songs. I'm not sure what the reason is, but it has, imo. I think the studio version of "The Blues" will have the potential to surpass "Don't Cry." As to whether or not it actually will, though, is anybody's guess. Of the few new songs I've heard ("Better," "Madagascar," and "The Blues"), I see "The Blues" making the biggest impact. It's one of those songs that a lot of chicks will dig.

i think there's no fair way to compare the two succesfull-wise. maybe after we'll get cd and get the final version of the blues we would be able to speak about comparing.
but for now if you play the guitar intro to don't cry anywhere people will know the song and probably can sing the chorus (it's not that difficult ;D) and the song is 14 years old. if the blues will stand the test of time i'll be happy but for now, don't cry is the better song. and i don't think it a lot more deeper lyrics wise. don't cry has awesome lyrics imo

The Blues is a better song than Don't Cry.  The lyrics are much, much, much better.  Don't Cry is a great song but The Blues to me is like a shorter November Rain or Estranged

I like dc better more because of the guitar work, better mid solo.. I could care less what the lyrics are..

Granted, the solo in Don't Cry is pretty damn awesome - It's the only part of the song I dig.

I actually like the video more than the song itself. Slash chucking the guitar over the cliff when he's done with it? Excellence.  : ok:

Dont Cry to me has always been somewhat overrated.

I personally think The Blues,Twat and Better are all greater songs than Dont Cry.

Don't Cry is a great song ?and it is better than The "Blues". ?But I bet you if you give the" Blues" to Slash and Izzy to put in their guitar it would easily kick Don't cry's ass . ?The reason that these new songs don't have the magic as the old songs is not because the new songs are bad, not at all, it's that they lack great guitar. ?Axl is an amazing songwriter ?and as good as these new songs are ?they would be totally incredible if they had a bluesy guitar player like Slash. ?The way That Slash was able to bend those notes and hold them for so long gave the songs life ?and soul . ? These New players don't make the guiatr talk ?like Slash did. ?I understand that Slash can't write shit on his own ?but he would totally kick ass on these songs. ?The new songs are great ?but these new guitar players don't do the songs justice. ?How fuckin great it would have been if in the late 90's ?brian May would have joined GNR ? we would have some kickass solos .

Agree with the exception of "Better"

the rest of the songs especially an amazing song like TWAT just screams out for Slash.

Great contributions you both... ::)

If you don't have anything else to say other than "I agree" or "I agree too", don't bother posting.

I agree with Ignatius :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:












Ok that wouldve been funny but anyway:

I always thought the Alt Lyrics version was far superior to the Original Dont Cry.

U know the most interesting thing about GNR songs.

GNR are the only band who have amazing songs with complete Shit choruses.

Dont Cry's chorus is horrible, The Blues,NR,Estranged dont even have choruses.

SCOM's chorus is SHIT.

U know they got amazing abilities to be one of the biggest bands ever but yet not have very many choruses to speak of.

Agreed on Don't Cry's chorus (in fact, it's damn annoying)... But SCOM? That's a bold statement there.  8)

Come on Dude


Whoa oh oh oh Sweet Child O mine
Whoa oh oh oh Sweet Love of Mine


not exactly Longfellow.


For Axl to write such amazing lyrics for some reason he somewhat drops the ball for Choruses.

Well for me its no contest.

The Blues is a much better song than Dont Cry. The solo in The Blues is also awesome and on a par with many of the solos found on the older GnR songs, its bluesy melodic and kicks ass. Blues i also find to be 'heart wrenching' than Dont Cry as the way the song is sung almost sounds as if Axl is crying....Very emotional sounding song.

I do see your point, and to a certain extent I agree. But in this case the catchiness of Axl's wail makes up for it - It's simple and it's instantly memorable, and fun to sing along to. Perfect chorus, IMO.

Don't Cry is a GNR classic. You won't be able to compare any new songs to the old until they too are classics.

The Blues is much more than a ballad, same as Estranged  : ok: It'll be great for a first single  :yes: I personally prefer it to Dont Cry. And the guitar work kicks ass.
Come to think of it, the lyrics are better too.
Not that Dont Cry isnt a great song.

That doesn't make a better song ....

Melody, Chord Structure, Guitars...

Sorry, Don't Cry is a better song... but you're right, the Blues lyrics are better.  Overall tho, Don't Cyr.

Who said Blues had better solos than Don't Cry?  You're fucking smoking some heavy shit if you think that! :D

I do love the Blues tho.  So far, the best newGnR song for me.

The Blues is miles better than DC, The Blues is deeper, more mature and musically brilliant, if Slash's solo wasn't so good in DC it wouldn't have got any recognition at all imo, I think it's cheesy and imo the worst ballady/epic song on UYI.

The Blues as it was in 2002 is better than Don't Cry in my opinion. I am not really a fan of how they seem to have dicked around with the intro though. Hopefully on the album it sounds like the 2002 version.

It has not aged! Everybody still loves it, not only Guns n Roses fans... The song is timeless and awesome! I'm talking about "Don't Cry" by the way :P

Don?t Cry

Dont Cry hands down. I dont get the hype over the Blues its probablt my least fave of the new songs, Maddy is better and Better is best.

Have to disagree there! don't cry is the blueprint to a sucessful power ballad!

Dont Cry is hands down a Gn'R classic, which is what I bet The Blues will end up being once it's on an album available to the mass public.. : ok:

Musically, and lyrically, The Blues is far superior, but Dont Cry is by far the more catchy of the two, and for me, the one which tends to get stuck in my head more so than the Blues.

Maybe because it's such a simplistic ballad, that's why it's so easy to digest, but as many have pointed out, it has not stood the test of time as well as some the other songs in Gn'R's back catalogue have.

You can't compare them.

Don't cry is the old classic, The Blues is the new classic. Both songs are lirically perfect and have a beautiful melody.

just don't see how DC has not stood well, it's just as meaningful now as it was then, it's simplicity is what makes it so good. People say the blues is better lyrically, that should be the case has axl has grown up since then n so should his songwriting!

Viewed objectively it appears that the blues is overall well written than DC.
That doesn't mean I like the blues better.
I like the simplicity of Don't Cry.

If it is released as a single, it may well be a bigger hit than don't cry, but that all depends on how it is promoted.

Don't cry is more legendary, and will probably continue to be. Though Personally, I do prefer the blues.

 Well if this CD isn't finally released than Guns n Roses will NEVER have another hit. But I think that if the public actually gets to hear "The Blues", it will easily be a chart topper. It's new, it's fresh and in my opinion the best new song heard so far. It sticks in your head. It's a song that plays well across the board. It's not just a Rock song, but also an Adult Contemporary song and a TOP 40 song as well. Most radio stations will be able to play "the Blues" which is the main reason why it would be very smart to release it first! This is going to be the song that is able to get the word out that Guns n Roses is back! It's my personal favorite.

I like Don't Cry much better than The Blues.....I think Don't Cry flows much better and Axl's voice is stronger in Don't Cry

Te Blues, Love this one and Axl's voice is much stronger on it than it was in '02

Agreed with Shirell about the vocal on the blues of 02.


That's my first impression of this song.
Reminds me of some George michael song, "MY way" by Frank Sinatra (and not by sid) and such.
It's a super pop song with deep lyrics.

It's also my personal last favorite (of new songs) but who cares. : ok:

Donno about the first single idea, as it's different from other songs.
For an indicator of the album, a more schizoid song would be Better.

Don't Cry has a little bit better solo, but I really dig the solo on The Blues too.  Don't Cry's signature guitar intro is great too.  It's hard to compare which is better musically because they're different songs.  The Blues is piano driven, Don't Cry is guitar driven.  The Blues, overall is a better song to me.  The lyrics are leaps and bounds ahead, and musically it's just as good but in a different way

here are the facts:

The Blues is equally a great song as Don't Cry

HOWEVER, Don't Cry has MUCH more of a pop edge to it then The Blues... there isn't that catchy melody in the Blues that'll make it a hit on the radio or with the teen chicks of today.

We all love Estranged and think its one of the greatest songs of all-time... but guess what, much of the common public don't care for it and VH1 even voted it one of the worst songs of all-time.? It was too long and even in some opinions, too boring, to be a real hit.? I think The Blues is similarly a boring song and ballads with a really catchy chorus tend not be successful singles.

and if you honestly think the lyrics to the song will help make it a hit... then you need to get a reality check.

I love the people who swear The Blues won't come close - without ever hearing the studio cut...

on par with any solo of gnr, you must be kidding me the blues solo is so boring... It ranks right up there with coma :hihi:

The 2002 version of the Blues is far superior than Don't Cry. I don't like the new piano intro from 2006, but hopefully that won't be the version on the album. I remember reading an interview with Dizzy where he said they had three versions of each song. I think that Axl reads these boards to see what we think of the different versions of the songs. I hope he does anyway, because I'll be choked if he puts this inferior version of The Blues that he's playing right now on Chinese Democracy.

I couldn't have said it any better.

How cool would it be if Axl picks up his mic during Ron's solo and starts humming don't cry

How much different can the Blues studio version be from the live performances?  Don't Cry by a mile.

Seeing how we've heard about 3 different versions of it live since 2001, I'd say the studio track could be very different.

Definetely like The Blues much better then Don't Cry! I think even more people will feel this way also when we have the studio version.  The Blues is my second favorite of the new songs, Catcher in the Rye definetely is my favorite, really hope that it turns up on the album with Brian May on guitar as well

I think The Blues is a better track than Don't Cry. Especially the ending with Axl wailing away, its simply amazing.

Serious question.  How old are you?

Doesn't matter, he's got good taste.

you will have a tough time selling the idea that the blues is a better song than don't cry to "orignal line-up" GnR fans!

The last verse of The Blues is some of the most emotional heartfelt lyrics and to me, the last verse of the blues ranks up there with Estranged.

Its fuckin brilliant.

Dont Cry doesnt come close to "The Blues" in my opinion.

forgive my loyalty to don't cry I live in the past when it comes to GnR

Dont Cry = Izzy, Axl, Slash, Shannon Hoon masterpiece.. timeless classic

Blues = Axl's NR version 2.0


both versions of Dont Cry destroy all 3 versions of the blues.

I can easily say that I love "The Blues" a lot more.

Thanks man  :peace:

What difference does it make how old he is?  I've heard Don't Cry probably around a thousand times, maybe more, over the last 14 plus years, I still think The Blues is a better song, and it's reached the point where the novelty factor would have worn off if it wasn't a great song

it can't be, live songs are suppose to be the song from the record basically.. maybe some sound effects or something like that..

I am an "original lineup" fan, and I think it is light years ahead of Dont Cry. Dont Cry is pure cheese. Axl and Izzy probably wrote it in 10 minutes. The Blues is an incredibly powerful song that is on a much higher level then Dont Cry ever could be.

dont cry is one of my favorite songs of GNR, i realy dont think the blues will come anywhere near it, but its a good strong song

I never liked Don't Cry that much.. Its cheesy and boring. Slash's solo is wonderful, tho. IMO, of course.

But its only a matter of opinion. I don't get how can you guys say things like "you are nuts if you prefer bla bla bla". Why don't you get that its just opinion, not fact? Not everybody likes what you like...

Anyways, I think it would be fair to compare both songs live (obvious, as The Blues is still not released). DC didn't sound as powerful and the song sounded softer (in a bad way). The backing vocals were ridiculous and Axl sang with no emotion. It was really boring to me... The song is already simple, they made it to sound even more simple live.

The Blues is not that simple and has Dizzy's piano, wich is another thing to add to the sound. Axl's vocals is way better now than in 2001 or 2002. Robin's solo is amazing, so is Richard's outro. But the song has no real chorus like DC, so it might not be a hit like DC.

Overall, I think The Blues live is way better than DC live. Of course, again, IMHO.

true it's all opinion, but you find robin's solo "amazing".. very few things in this world are amazing

Don't see similarities in either.

But Don't Cry is the better song

I would like to be able to listen to a studio quality track of The Blue's before making a final decision, but right now I say Don't Cry is the better song live...of course I saw The Blue's at a show in '02 and Axl's voice wasnt that great the night i was there. :smoking:

Don't be a smartass, you know its a matter of opinion. It's amazing for me and for a lot of people here.

^I second that.

No disrespect to all people who like The Blues, but its pretty boring compared to Don't cry...

I place them mostly on equal footing with one another, but I'm partial to "Don't Cry." The reason I say such a thing is because of the piano introduction to "The Blues." It's always sounded forced, almost as though it were added after the fact in an effort to give it an introductory portion. Overall, and to end any more of this digression, I'll conclude with this sentence: "It flows well but not nearly as well as what I hear in 'Don't Cry.'"

I'd have to disagree about The Blues intro. It's just a difference in taste, but i feel that the intro really sets up the pace and opens up the rest of the song, I love Dizzy's work there.

I think a more appropriate comparison is "The Blues" vs. "Estranged" as they're a lot more similar. Both songs are much, much, much more complex than "Don't Cry" is.

I think the simplicity of "Don't Cry" helped it to be a big hit. "The Blues" might be too intelligent for the average audience, at least for it to climb all the way up the charts.

The Blues is a pop love ballad that sounds dated. Kind of a November Rain kind of song which I consider dated also.. Just not a big fan of love ballads.? I hardly ever listen to Don't Cry anymore either cause I find the lyrics cheesy this day and age.. The music to Don't Cry is still pretty incredible and Axl's voice and harmony with Shannon are great too so Don't Cry all the way.

EDIT: also one of Slash's Best solos.....

i aggree, dont cry is the best! :peace: : ok:

I think the Blues is stronger than Dont Cry.

To me, Dont Cry is a very commercial formulaic song, one of Guns' popular but weaker songs. When comparing it to the likes of SCOM or even NR, it doesnt hold up too well

The Blues is going to be a great song I feel

right now i feel the blues is the better song. i don't know how i'll feel 10 years from now but right now def. the blues. georgous and sad, heartfelt lyrics.

After hearing it yesterday, the Blues. I thought yesterday's perf of the song was better than Hammersmith.

Prefer the more guitar based version though

are not

When I was growing up, my family had chickens. My mom was really attached to one specifically. Named her Betsy (or was it Bertha?). Anyway, when The Illusions came out, I was still living in that old home with the family. I was playing the album an insane amount of times. Betsy passed away (she was really old for a chicken), and my mom was heartbroken about it. Don't Cry was being played really loud, and my mom started crying so hard. One of those deep hard crying moments. She took it as a sign or something.

Now whenever I hear Don't Cry, I can't help but think about Betsy the Chicken. My mom brings it up once in awhile too. I don't think about Betsy the Chicken when I hear The Blues.

I think comparing the Blues against Don't Cry, is like comparing part 1 and part 2 of the Godfather.  They're both great, one will only be better then the other depending on the mood you're in, or if you grown tired of hearing one, therefore play the hell out of the other.  I think the new intro with piano in the Blues makes it more epic, and Don't Cry is a special song because both versions are awesome.

Don't Cry will always be great to me. The live version of The Blues in 02 was amazing, and at that point i thought it could rival Don't Cry, but the newer version I don't like. Slash's solo in DC is phenomenal, but the solo in The Blues is also great. In the end, it's going to come down to the studio work. I'm betting The Blues will get over-produced like Estranged and end up cheesy instead of soulful. I'm betting on DC being better, but it could go either way.

I think out of the two, I still prefer Don't Cry.. I will have to wait to studio version of The Blues though to see if I change my mind..

but right now I feel The Blues is kind of cloying, too sweet that sometimes I can't stand listening to it. Don't Cry can be annoying too but I find it easier to the ears and not that suffocating ya know..