Here Today... Gone To Hell!

The other day I was at an LA Dodger game and Kid Rock was sitting next to me, I asked him about playin w/ the band and how Axl's doin. I also asked him if he'd heard CD and he said he's heard every song that could possibly on it, he just doesnt know which ones, so that was pretty cool.

Did he mention any tracks in particular?

he said all the leaked songs are on the demo, and that there's more new material which he failed to mention

kid rock was just sitting next to you?!

thats crazy

i had really good seats, first row behind the plate

Did he say it was good-no opinion on the material?

he said the "new material" that have been leaked, he considers awesome and that there's more new material that is gonna blow you away when the album comes out, but he also said some songs are really poorly written, but that happens

watch kid rock get abused for this :hihi:


glad he told you that, that's cool, new music that's great too.. :beer:

Yeah, Kid Rock is probably gonna get hammered for saying that.  But I respect the mans opinion.  He's a great musician.  Not much of my style, but he knows how to play and how to write a hit.

gimme a fuckin' break.  :confused:

thats just delayed the album by another 15 fucking years.................way to go.....thanks ?>:(

some songs are poorly written, who does kid rock think he is fucking mozart. ?i guess bawitdaba is considered a real fucking masterpiece

Cant all be lyrical masterpieces like Ba Wit Da Ba or whatever the hell that was :hihi:

So hes confirming that more songs exist than the 4 that we have heard? Thats a relief ::)

dude, chill out, there's always some bad songs on an album, you can't say that u like every gnr song ever written, and if u do, u need to branch out

again..........gimme a fuckin' break.

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thanks for the info, tell this other guy to fuck off and stop annoying people who try to communicate genuine info and opinions ;)

right on  :nervous:

thanks man

you're a complete asshole mate ::)

wtf, where did that come from?

dont know but someone just lost a karma me thinks..... :o

wasn't directed at you man sorry!!! it was for the guy with the sarcasm problem who was trying to annoy you....sorry. i should really learn how to quote :P

just hit the quote tab  ;D

lol, no problem man, sry i went ballistic

yeah i may get -ve karma....... i apologise. it just annoys me that here, people slate others opinions daily. thats shite. someones opinion is ther own, its personal. just because some guy doesn't like kid rock doesn't give him the right to take the piss out of others, when all this guy was trying to do was tell as story, that was relevant in gnr world.

its just reall ygets me sometimes y'know!

apologies to those who were offended :peace:

i see your point of view and i know where your coming from but i figure the last things axl needs to hear is that some songs have been poorly written. the masterpiece has been in the making 10yrs+ already

Im guessing Kid Rock heard the polished version of Silkworms, only it really isn't that much better than the Rio '01 version we've all already heard... :hihi:

you're right, i was at hammersmith ;last night and when all the boo's and "where's slash" stuff started i was like................... :nervous:

the band doesn't need that, and negativity is maybe what has killed previousl tours, half filled venues in the 2002 tour...

i live in uk, so any confirmation that this is indeed BS!

he did say the OTHER day and not today   ;D

there ya go!

I see your point, I still question the credibility of the post. Anytime I see something "Hey I ran into so & so" I really have trouble believing it without any form of documentation. I still don't beleive it.

While I agree that all the opinion bashing is sort of annoying, you can't just have everyone agree with everything. If someone doesn't agree with what someone said and writes that on this board isn't that stating THERE opinion as well? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, wether it be agreeing with something or not.. you can't let what people write on a board get to you, makes no sense, it's not like you saying that they are stupid for writing whatever is going to make them change what they do. Everyone contributes to this board in different ways, some with useful info and others with strange criticism, but in the end it's all entertaining to read : ok:

Also I highly doubt Kid Rock would socialize with some person at a baseball game about Guns N' Roses :P

why would u say that, kid rocks a pretty down to earth guy, and if yall think i'm lyin, the game was on monday, the mets won 4-1, Alay Soler got the win  Brett Tomko got the loss and the game started at 7:05

Assuming the story's true, did he mean poorly written lyrically or musically I wonder  :P

I wonder if Silkworms was on the demo and this is what led Kid Rock to make that comment  :hihi:

Also the story is pretty believable because Kid Rock has a reputation of being cool to fans

what he really meant is that he didnt like the songs, i asked him that

Anyone can tell you what happened in a game that was on Monday, I could tell you what happened with the Sox game and I didn't go.. but listen, I have no reason to question you if you say you talked to Kid Rock.. fine. He said that he heard all the songs that were going to be on Chinese Democracy, does this mean that it will FINALLY come out this year?
If so then can't wait to hear it, gotta be the most anticipated CD ever :beer:

Liar or not... A "poorly written song" isn't anything to worry about. Just listen to the AFD version of "Anything Goes": it's nothing compared to the early demo versions. That could be what happened: it started out fucking great, but then after the lyrics get reworked and the music is altered (all in the interest of making "the best record possible"), it sounds like garbage. Besides, Kid Rock has nothing to talk about. One of his biggest songs was a duet with Sheryl Crow. Not really relevant (cuz I love that song), but he shouldn't judge the demos until he hears the completed ones.

Kevin

i think anything goes is good, not appetites strongest but a good song

I can totally understand him not liking songs like Rhiad, Silkworms OMG.....

I'm sure there are a few stinkers, i mean, he's working on how many songs?  like 30something?  if he heard everything some of it may not appear on the 1st album so give the guy a break :peace:

Not every GnFnR song is a motherfucking masterpiece :hihi:

Just the majority of them :rofl:

so he says there are some songs that will blow us away.... but again poorly written dude is on crack on your full of bullshit

kid rock sucks imho his lyrics blow.

I dont know if i believe this, Kid Rock wouldnt be this open with a casual fan would he?

guys, he didn't give me any information of which we hadn't already assumed, and how could this in any way lead u to believe im not tellin the truth

Give me a reason that makes my true story unbelievable

I don't know if he's the type to care that much, he really didn't say much beside his opinion... Not much revelation....

Anyways axl has his hands full with tommy these days :rofl:

actually guns n' roses are the only band/artist i like every single song from, so yeah.

kid rock is not in the same category or planet as gnr... poorly written? trailer trash rock/rap/country  this guy has an identity crisis

need a? tissue?? I was waiting for this, but in the right thread :hihi:

stay on topic, but even more important IN the topic  ::)

warning: attention seeking noob ::)

yep me too, isn't that hard if you've been listening to the songs since you were 6  :hihi:

 :o

It looks like you and I can predict the future Mike. :hihi:

obviously im new to this...
i can write anything and u geeks respond....


Get in the ring!
 :rofl:

dude, how can u say that im full of bullshit, how do u arrive at that? and if kid rock sucked he wouldnt get paid millions of dollars to write musci

u idiot theres already a thread , fucking dumb ass....

 :peace:

dude, get a fucking life

dude, chill out, there's always some bad songs on an album, you can't say that u like every gnr song ever written, and if u do, u need to branch out


I guess I need to branch out then.

where do you think this was read to start a new thread :hihi:

 :crying:

Did I miss something? What is "poorly written'?

you do realise this album is people's lives, they will attack a police officer or the queen if he aid something negative about cd before  a listen..

This is no big deal at all. Kid Rock, if he did hear the demos, must have heard tons and tons of songs.

to los99: what an incredibly sad person you are :nervous:
"i can write anything and u geeks respond, looool, get in the ring!!!!" was what he said.
wow.
yeah, get in the cyber ring, internet tough guys always last, foo! :drool:

dude, chill out, there's always some bad songs on an album,
Just out of curiosity what bad songs were on some of the albums Zep 4, Abbey Road, Dark Side of the Moon, and AFD?Oh yeah, I think Kid Rock is alright.

  I think he meant that of the demos some of the songs sucked....like of the UYI demos some of the sucked like
just another sunday
Bring it back home
Sentimental Movie
etc...

Compared to most of the other rock-wannabe shit that's come out recently, it might as well be a fucking masterpiece.

I don't understand this sentence. All the leaked songs are on what demo? The leaked songs were all demos, so... And, there's more new material which he failed to mention; who failed to mention? Axl? Kid Rock? And if Kid Rock failed to mention it, how do you know about it?

I think you guys are over-analyzing again! 

There's not too many people who are going to like every song on an album.

sad but true

I don't value kid rock's opinion on anything...

Some of you guys can slag Kid Rock all you want, but the fact is he is one of the most talented musicians out there today. He has managed to become relevant and accepted in like 3-4 different genres, which takes alot of creativity and talent. And anyone who said his lyrics blow hasn't ever really listened to him. His ballads are fantastic, as evidence by Only God knows Why lifting Devil Without a Cause to like 10-15X platinum.

Some of the people on this board need to learn to let it go a little, as an artist saying they don't like some New GNR songs doesn't make them a talentless hack. He has accomplished more than enough in his career to comment on the music of others. Very few artists have managed to be relevant in as many different genres as he has.

I'm not really trying to diss Kid Rock(I like some of his work), but he does seem to be a bit of a media whore. Country special? Kid Rock's there. Rock? Rap? Mentos commercial? There. And as far as being one of the most talented musicians out there today, well that's not saying a whole lot when you consider today's music vs. yesterdays. Kid Rock, fitty, Britney, "You're beautiful..."  vs. Led Zep, AC/DC, GnFnR. Not even close.

This is probably the most attention Kid Rock has ever gotten :hihi:

Oh please... ::)

The amount of users and topics on our board here doesn't even compare to the sheer variety of topics, and intellect found on a Kid Rock message board.. :hihi:

Five and half.

Other than My World,as far the old lineups songs are concerned I do like everyone. But I also listen to Kid Rock,Pantera,The Doors,Black Label Society. I think I've branched out quite a bit :smoking:

I like every song written by Gn'R and listen to all kinds of music. So your opinion is now meaningless. ::)

Enough with the Kid Rock bashing, he just spoke HIS opinion. Is that so hard for some of guys to understand.

The reason why Kid Rock is a so-called "media whore" is because you HAVE TO BE nowadays for the press (and therefore the public) to give a shit about you.

Kid Rock is playing the game of the music biz well. I'm not a fan of his music but whatever, he's done something right.

i dont belive kid rock would tell you something like that...

kid what?

based on what asshole           its not like he gave me inside information or anything0

I believe it. Kid Rock is down to earth and will shoot the shit with you.

I love every GNR song.

U guys on here wanna always bash Jon Bon Jovi

so I wanna see Kid Rock get sliced and diced.

It is highly entertaining to me that Kid Rock said that some songs were poorly written (if he said that at all...I really doubt that he did)....
I am very sorry, I like Kid Rock, but he is miles away from being able to judge!

Quote from American Badass:

"I'm an American Bad Ass
Watch me kick, you can roll with Rock
Or you can suck my dick
I'm a porno flick, I'm like Amazing Grace
I'm gunna fuck some hoes after I rock this place"

Excuse me...write something like Estranged or Coma before you give an opinion!

i met sebastian bach yesterday.... he said that he listened to everything axl has recorded for the last 10 years. some songs are great, but some not so ::)

i don`t really think kid rock would consider some songs "poorly written"....  but that`s just my opinion anways :beer:

Kid Rock has been a big deal where I live for like 15 years or so. Mostly because he was out working his ass off to get signed at like EVERY SHOW in the Detroit area for years and years. He actually lives right by a friend of mine out near Clarkston and we run into him every so often at a bar we hang out at.

Having said all of that, I've never really liked his music. Does that make his opinion on GNRs music invalid?? No. Who knows, maybe Kid Rock fans love the simplicity of stuff like "Only God Knows Why" and they think GNRs stuff like "Estranged" is a bunch of overdramatic shit. It's all good, it's just different strokes for different folks.

To be honest (no disrespect to the original poster), Kid Rock actually had every right to be like "HEY LOOK, I'm trying to enjoy a baseball game here! GET A LIFE". But he didn't. He entertained their conversation and maybe even told them a little of what they wanted to hear ("some other stuff will blow you away") just to make them happy. Who knows.

Either way, even though I've never been a fan of Kid Rock, that doesn't mean we should all shit all over him just because he said some of the songs he's heard were poorly written in his opinion.

and now your 7....lol :rofl:

I would have to agree with Kid Rock.  Some of the songs that we have heard are poorly written let alone some of the stuff we haven't.  OMG and Silkworms are horrible so what he said is not a stretch of the imagination.  One of the rumored early producers or Brian May said  similar things.

me too  : ok:

A person's celebrity status does not automatically imply that he or she will disassociate with the average person. It's appalling to see how many forum posters immediately go for the throat when it's something as inconsequential as this. Kid Rock had a conversation with someone next to him at a ball game, and he stated an opinion about something. What's implausible about that? It's not like we have a forum member talking about Kid Rock giving him advance copies of the next two GNR albums.

Kid Rock will change his style and do ANYTHING his record execs tell him to do to sell an album. The only reason he changed "genres" is because he isn't talented ENOUGH to remain relevant in any one of them.. thus the change from time to time, it's all for record sales. He's not very talented at all, most his songs are horrible and the lyrics look like a high schooler wrote them. That being said,  he at least puts on a decent live show, and there are tons of hot sluts there, so I give him props for that.

okey you're a naive person judging from what you are writing.. not talented?.. he must be talented if he wasn't he would not have been famous in all those genres.. and no he is not changing genre on every new album he's releasing.. he's mixing different genres to a whole new genre, and he is great doing that just look at his record sales.. Kid Rock is talented
the best lyrically song hes written is "only god knows why"... and if you listen to it or at least read the lyrics you would probably would change your opinion on this so called untalented artist.
it maybe look like a feel sorry for yourself song when you read the lyrics. but when you hear the song.. well it's just great..
 know you're artist or subject before you talk about talent.. kid rock is a great artist and performer.. he's not in the same universe as axl when it comes to who's the best.. but that's because.. axl has his own universe that he rules and noone is close to be as good as him..

sorry for my english. swedish 16 year old cocky mutha-fucka who happens to know a whole lot about gn'r and kid rock and other rock n' roll acts

Mr. I, GnR changed styles with their albums. Listen to AFD then the Illusions, they sound very different, does that make them not talented enough in any one category?

off topic but....

alexh0618 that's i niiiice avatar you have  :hihi: :rofl:

I'm not a fan of Kid Rock's music, but he worked to get where he is today. Furthermore, as far as I know he plays all or nearly all of the instruments on his studio records.

I tend to disagree with your comments about changing genres, Mr. Intensity. What about changing genres in an effort to challenge himself in other ways besides sticking with the same one? As a career musician, shouldn't he be trying to push his record sales higher? Artistic integrity is respectable, but if someone's going to bury himself or herself by going that route is it worth the effort? And do you know for a fact that he will do anything that the record executives tell him? Or to use a scenario such as you've proposed as an example, if you found yourself to be in a situation in which your music wasn't "good enough," would you feel obligated to maintain and conform to your own shortcomings regardless of whether or not you'd be losing money?

It's true: anyone can do what he does with enough effort, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. The problem is that a lot of criticism falls short, and surely everything isn't as horrible as people make things out to be.

Bawitdba da bang da dang diggy diggy diggy said the boogie said up jump the boogie....  :-\

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Kid Rock busted his ass for years before he got signed.   The man was selling out 3500 seat theaters without any label or management support. 

I have respect for him AND his opinion.

i went to the ny shows and i got to tell ya....im a die hard and i walked out the last night when that talentless piece of garbage came out! I WALKED OUT OF A GNR SHOW! axl shouldnt let losers hang on stage.

I guess to each his own, but I personally think thats a terrible decision. You robbed yourself of the rest of the show because you think Kid Rock is untalented??

If he was talking about some that are poorly written, surely IRS is on that list.

^ says you ^

For those that don't remember or weren't around, Tommy said ages ago that the album is 90% fucking incredible. Axl has said he's trying to do some different things and that there will only be a few appetite style songs on the first album. We can expect one or two Axl-wanking type things that some will worship and others will hate.

The fact that Kid Rock didn't like some things encourages me.

anyone can have an opinion on whatever they want.  I myself am a big Gn'R fan and I happen to also like kid rock.  I have seen him about 5 times and he always puts on a good show. I think he is a talented artist and if i do so big deal.  He can write good songs as well and the problem is people think about all of is rap/rock stuff.  Give his album kid rock a listen, some songs aren't so good but over all I think it is a great album. 

I agree. The lyrics from American Badass sound like something a teen would write.

no you didn't

exactly what i was thinking. what a loser. he probably wasn't even there.

:hihi: nice.

The thing about Kid Rock is yes he was dedicated and it took almost a decade for him to make it but only when the music industry turned more commercial and looking for the quick dollar did Kid Rock finally made it. Kid Rock is more of a pop star than rock or rap. And his fanbase is primarily in middle america where country music is king and mullets are seen as fashionable.

My point earlier was this; I don't care if it was Yanni who said some of the songs were poorly written. It's an opinion and everyone is entitled to it. My personal dislike for Kid Rock shouldn't cause me or anyone else to say bad things just because he suggested Axl has written some songs that might have sounded less then perfect to him.