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Title: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: Chief on June 07, 2006, 02:10:44 AM
I was talking with someone about this recently and i agree somewhat with what he was saying. He said that some of the newer songs need more lyrics.. for example i think Chinese Democracy would be better with some more lyrics.  Also, IRS has a lot of repeated lyrics...

What do you guys think?


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on June 07, 2006, 03:30:45 AM
I was talking with someone about this recently and i agree somewhat with what he was saying. He said that some of the newer songs need more lyrics.. for example i think Chinese Democracy would be better with some more lyrics.? Also, IRS has a lot of repeated lyrics...

What do you guys think?

You have seen the old song lyrics too right?


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on June 07, 2006, 03:41:47 AM
IRS is fine

madagascar and the blues need one more verse.
better also maybe.


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: Tomorrows on June 07, 2006, 03:47:37 AM
I think they are all very solid so far. Some are definately better than others.

The Blues was perfect in 2001 (in all ways) and its still lyrically great. Better has a lot of complex (ie hard to sing) words/lines but it works well. TWAT is great too.

Eerie, I just realised my list of strongest songs lyrically matches with Axl's list of favourites  :nervous:


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: AxlsMainMan on June 07, 2006, 08:53:50 AM
When it comes to the new songs, lyrically, Madagascar is the weakest of the 10 we've heard thus far, followed a close second by Rhiad probably...

I absolutely adore Madagascar, but sometimes when I listen to it, I can still picture Axl to this very day having troubles penning the lyrics, or scrapping the song, and starting from scratch a million times over... :-\


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: Death Cube K on June 07, 2006, 08:56:08 AM
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He said that some of the newer songs need more lyrics..

I actually think Better and IRS could use less...Axl's puking out words in such a hurry he doesnt have time to catch his breath...nor do I when I try to sing the songs..  :hihi:


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: johngnr on June 07, 2006, 09:03:04 AM
Has anyone noticed the lack of swearing in the new songs? the worst it gets is in silkworms (which appearently won't be on the album) and the reference to 'masterbation' in ChiDem (which is pretty tame and not literal)

Could it be that Axl has done an RHCP and cleaned up the language to make it more commerically appealing?


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: ashlar on June 07, 2006, 09:03:24 AM
Some of IRS is fine but the one passage gets fuddled with words really easily and you cant understand what he is saying.

Feeling like a dumb right on the lawn
felling like a greaver thats gotta be sung
if i can share poop right along etc

i know the actual words, but that verse is rough :P


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: CheapJon on June 07, 2006, 09:39:27 AM
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He said that some of the newer songs need more lyrics..

I actually think Better and IRS could use less...Axl's puking out words in such a hurry he doesnt have time to catch his breath...nor do I when I try to sing the songs..? :hihi:

well i think that better is the best song thus far.. both lyrical and melodic.. i think that like paradise city is a harder text to sing along with if you should compare PC to "better" is PC harder.. :hihi: :hihi:


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: CAFC Nick on June 07, 2006, 12:01:24 PM
I think IRS is pretty weak in terms of lyrics.

"What would you do if I, gave my heart to you"? What does that have to do with the IRS exactly?

I still like the song got a really great melody and it sounds good.

Better and TWAT have amazing lyrics.


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: Mobenrad on June 07, 2006, 12:03:19 PM
Are you retarded?

"Better" and "The Blues" are the songs that DON'T need more lyrics. They are the strongest songs of the new ones, lyrically.


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: The New Fiona Apple on June 07, 2006, 12:48:34 PM
Wasn't overly wordy lyrics what people wanted GNR to get away from? I think the new songs are fine as they are.


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on June 07, 2006, 12:59:46 PM
I think IRS is pretty weak in terms of lyrics.

"What would you do if I, gave my heart to you"? What does that have to do with the IRS exactly?

I still like the song got a really great melody and it sounds good.

Better and TWAT have amazing lyrics.

How long have you been a fan of gnr? Have you not learned that a lot of Axls songs have hidden meanings and are not meant to be taken literally?


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: .Seal on June 07, 2006, 01:11:21 PM
Has anyone noticed the lack of swearing in the new songs? the worst it gets is in silkworms (which appearently won't be on the album) and the reference to 'masterbation' in ChiDem (which is pretty tame and not literal)

Could it be that Axl has done an RHCP and cleaned up the language to make it more commerically appealing?
Or maybe Axl is just older now and the old attitude is gone and atleast I don't need swearing or well let's say I don't care do they contain it or not aslong as it sounds good


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: estranged.1098 on June 07, 2006, 01:21:01 PM
I think IRS is pretty weak in terms of lyrics.

"What would you do if I, gave my heart to you"? What does that have to do with the IRS exactly?

I still like the song got a really great melody and it sounds good.

Better and TWAT have amazing lyrics.

Do you really think IRS is about tax evasion?  :hihi:


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: Chief on June 07, 2006, 01:44:56 PM
no i'm not talking about these songs. mainly IRS and chinese.

however i do believe that a lot of the songs we haven't heard yet are going to have some amazing lyrics.

i thought songs like locomotive with a lot of great lyrics do set the bar pretty high...




Are you retarded?

"Better" and "The Blues" are the songs that DON'T need more lyrics. They are the strongest songs of the new ones, lyrically.


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: Buddha_Master on June 07, 2006, 02:57:55 PM
IRS fucking kicks so much ass that when someone says anything degrading it in anyway...I want to reach through the comp and feed that someones face to their asshole. Oh...and I do mean that literally.


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: Chief on June 07, 2006, 03:21:33 PM
whoa, calm down there buddha dude!!  i love IRS but i do think the lyrics could be a bit better.


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: Buddha_Master on June 07, 2006, 03:39:51 PM
whoa, calm down there buddha dude!!? i love IRS but i do think the lyrics could be a bit better.

Then take a look in the mirror friend. You are about to toss your own salad.


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on June 07, 2006, 08:17:19 PM
Remember, their greatest songs had no obscenities in them.  :yes:


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: gabble on June 07, 2006, 11:23:40 PM
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the worst it gets is in silkworms

Well, if you go all the way back to "Oh My God" . . . "So give it away like they're not gonna fuck you".? And if you listen to the quotes in "Madagascar" . . . "This whole thing was fucked up".?


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: dariano on June 07, 2006, 11:57:00 PM
Don't forget how Axl opened Rock in Rio and all his shows, "do you know where the fuck you are?"? ?He also still enjoys flipping the crowd off while singing "why don't you just fuck off" from "It's So Easy" and I happen to like his classic reference to banging a bitch doggystyle..."turn around bitch I got a use for you, besides, you aint got nothin better to do and I 'm bored" Those are lyrics to live by until we all leave this fucking planet and women love it ;D


Title: Re: Lyrics in the "new era"?
Post by: You Gonna Eat That? on June 08, 2006, 01:22:14 AM
I think IRS is pretty weak in terms of lyrics.

"What would you do if I, gave my heart to you"? What does that have to do with the IRS exactly?
He says it's about tax evasion, etc. but honestly, I think it's about Slash and/or the press.