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Title: Nond-die hards digging new GNR (+Everybody digs "Better" @ Ebaumsworld)
Post by: newgnr on May 24, 2006, 03:18:19 PM
Ok, so I also like Pearl Jam and I am a member at their board.  So I was curious as to what folks who don't obsess over GNR thought about the new songs (actually, just Better).  So i gave them the song to listen to....and well, check out the results for yourself:

http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?p=3275757&posted=1#post3275757


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: Mandy. on May 24, 2006, 03:21:18 PM
Niiiiiiice! That's great news  :D


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: WARose on May 24, 2006, 03:28:41 PM
everyone i ever played better to absolutely loved it : ok:

they liked the other songs as well, but i didn?t show them to that many people..

one friend of mine even downloaded the songs himself without me telling him about them and he thought they were great. "the old stuff is great music, but this is really mature and it kicks ass"


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: WARose on May 24, 2006, 03:31:25 PM
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Never thought I would buy another GNR album in my life, but looks like >I might......


sounds good ;D


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: ppbebe on May 24, 2006, 03:32:49 PM
Great! as expected.
Way you go newgnr.

Likewise, I've never been a die hard of any band till I bumped into this band.....the chinese democratic GNR.


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: Jimmy? on May 24, 2006, 03:35:38 PM
nice one dude  : ok: im likin the research, as would axl  : ok:


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: WARose on May 24, 2006, 03:50:09 PM
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Likewise, I've never been a die hard of any band till I bumped into this band.....the chinese democratic GNR.

 you`re not the only one :hihi:


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: St_Jimmyuk on May 24, 2006, 03:51:29 PM
everyone loves better, but they also start listening to all otehr gnr stuff after hearing it as well

its all good a song all the fans and non fans can love together :P


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: Nytunz on May 24, 2006, 03:55:39 PM
NICE!

And just to add something: i did this to a tool messageboard also.. and got the same POSITIVE responce.. :D


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: Wando on May 24, 2006, 04:04:11 PM
Nice ^^, I did the same thing on another messageboard: http://www.gtagaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71186


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: mornintrain on May 24, 2006, 04:18:49 PM
^lol gta rocks! san andreas is my fav game ever : ok:


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: bumblerocks on May 24, 2006, 04:32:28 PM
awesome stuff! :D
gnr takin' ova!! ;D


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: Vegar on May 24, 2006, 04:41:19 PM
yeah this is great news!

I gave 'Better' to 4-5 people in my class, who don't like GN'R, and they were thrilled!! They absolutely dug it! Now they're asking when the record I've told them about (CD) is gonna come out and stuff! Its pretty awesome!!  : ok:


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: Steel_Angel on May 24, 2006, 04:44:52 PM
thats great! and yes the vid sucks  :crying:. but it sounds cool  : ok:  :hihi:


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: ARC on May 24, 2006, 04:50:03 PM
It's actually kinda hard not to like this song...


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: Mr Rage on May 24, 2006, 05:20:16 PM
this is gonna be crimnal to most, but i have not heard any leaked songs not one!!!!!!

I will when i can go to HMV n buy the CD, hopefully this year!


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: HungerForChaos on May 24, 2006, 05:23:00 PM
I think this will be the new band's SCOM. Meaning it will be a #1 hit...


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: Super-Ecwfan1 on May 24, 2006, 05:48:51 PM
                   I actually think I.R.S is a better song than " Better " personally. It has a lot of in your face that G'n'R used to be.


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: newgnr on May 24, 2006, 05:54:49 PM
I personally think Better (aside from a CITR, if it were better quality) is the best of the new leaks, but also, I showed them this song because it has the best quality of any of the leaks.  It really shows off Axl's voice.  Apparently ppl are impressed, as they should be.


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: vince41090 on May 24, 2006, 06:28:08 PM
my experience with introducing people to Better is, the very first time they hear it they think its just fucked up because of the intro and don't bother to listen to the rest of the song. but when i get people to listen to the whole thing, the love it.


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: F*ck Fear on May 24, 2006, 06:41:46 PM
Man even when I first downloaded Better I thought it was fake because of the intro :hihi: But as soon as the vocals kicked in I knew it wasn't.
Most of my friends don't actually even like GN'R but they dig this song.


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: Jim Bob on May 24, 2006, 06:43:45 PM
Better and TWAT are both instant classics  : ok:


Title: Re: Non-die hards digging new GNR!
Post by: anythinggoes on May 24, 2006, 06:49:23 PM
It's actually kinda hard not to like this song...

 i agree even my five year old daughter sings along to it its great :rofl:


Title: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: Steel_Angel on June 05, 2006, 08:25:20 PM
http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/showthread.php?t=142110

heres a post from the link
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HOLY SHIT
that surprised me. i was skeptical and almost didnt click on the thread but im glad i did. i had to call my brother and send him the link. good song.
id buy the cd.

 :'( this song is gonna be a huge hit. even the haters like it.


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: badapple81 on June 05, 2006, 08:29:33 PM
I play it at work in the evening as a few of my team I manage are casual "Greatest Hits" listeners and a few are familiar with the albums and Tokyo DVDS. As a result I had to burn the song onto CDs for everyone, they loved it! This song really is the shit.


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: jimmythegent on June 05, 2006, 08:29:57 PM
Im not so sure

I reckon ditch the mid section BH solo and Axls screaming "I never wanted you to.. " part. You ?might have a rock single on your hands then, otherwise its too complex


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: Steel_Angel on June 05, 2006, 08:31:46 PM
Im not so sure

I reckon ditch the mid section BH solo and Axls screaming "I never wanted you to.. " part. You ?might have a rock single on your hands then, otherwise its too complex
true. its still a good song though.


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: badapple81 on June 05, 2006, 08:32:24 PM
The screaming part is essential! Perhaps edit the musical parts around that though if anything.


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: Tomorrows on June 05, 2006, 08:33:11 PM
Im not so sure

I reckon ditch the mid section BH solo and Axls screaming "I never wanted you to.. " part. You  might have a rock single on your hands then, otherwise its too complex

Thats like the best part of the song for me!


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: Steel_Angel on June 05, 2006, 08:33:50 PM
i hated that part at first but it just grew on me.


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: jimmythegent on June 05, 2006, 08:34:02 PM
The screaming part is essential! Perhaps edit the musical parts around that though if anything.

Perhaps essential to the album version, but for a single I think not. This is the weakest part of an overall solid vocal performance I feel.


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: BurningHills on June 05, 2006, 08:36:16 PM
I feel if Better is released as a single, there'll be a radio edit for poppier stations with the screaming part edited out, and then normal rock radio would play the part with the screaming in (album version.)


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: metallex78 on June 05, 2006, 08:40:12 PM
Im not so sure

I reckon ditch the mid section BH solo and Axls screaming "I never wanted you to.. " part. You ?might have a rock single on your hands then, otherwise its too complex

Are you kidding? Thats the best part! : ok:


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: jimmythegent on June 05, 2006, 08:40:48 PM
I feel if Better is released as a single, there'll be a radio edit for poppier stations with the screaming part edited out, and then normal rock radio would play the part with the screaming in (album version.)

that would be exactly the way to go about it. I still think that Chinese Democracy would make the best first single from what we've heard.

I wonder if a decision has been made?


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: ashlar on June 05, 2006, 08:41:06 PM
The screaming part is essential! Perhaps edit the musical parts around that though if anything.

Perhaps essential to the album version, but for a single I think not. This is the weakest part of an overall solid vocal performance I feel.
I disgree, i am really impressed with that note. Whenever i play the song for someone they kinda take a second listen at that part.


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: Scabbie on June 05, 2006, 08:41:32 PM
Why delete the screaming part? I hate when bands compromise for Radio. IMO Led Zepplin had it right, don't bother ith singles, concentrate on albums.



Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: michaelvincent on June 05, 2006, 08:41:37 PM
If they release that tune then they should keep it intact. It is a bit complex for radio but fuck it. It is a cool tune.


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: newgnr on June 05, 2006, 08:41:42 PM
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=30716.msg592060#msg592060


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: jimmythegent on June 05, 2006, 08:41:58 PM
Im not so sure

I reckon ditch the mid section BH solo and Axls screaming "I never wanted you to.. " part. You ?might have a rock single on your hands then, otherwise its too complex

Are you kidding? Thats the best part! : ok:

i dont dislike it entirely, just doesnt sound right to my ears


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: jimmythegent on June 05, 2006, 08:42:58 PM
Why delete the screaming part? I hate when bands compromise for Radio. IMO Led Zepplin had it right, don't bother ith singles, concentrate on albums.



well assuming that the single is to be used in marketing the album to make it successful, these things need to be considered


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: Steel_Angel on June 05, 2006, 08:43:30 PM
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=30716.msg592060#msg592060
yea but thats why i put the (ebaumsworld forum) in my title. uhhh.. hehe..  :nervous:


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: the dirt on June 05, 2006, 08:44:29 PM
Remember the 3:54 leak where someone took a part or two out? That was my fave.


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: Timmy on June 05, 2006, 08:44:53 PM
I've sent it to a couple real GNR haters and they dug it

 : ok:


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: Steel_Angel on June 05, 2006, 08:45:04 PM
Remember the 3:54 leak where someone took a part or two out? That was my fave.
it was kinda boring tho after a while imo.


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: the dirt on June 05, 2006, 08:45:55 PM
Remember the 3:54 leak where someone took a part or two out? That was my fave.
it was kinda boring tho after a while imo.

It seemed to have a lot more flow this way  :-\


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: KIKO2K6 on June 05, 2006, 08:46:27 PM
Im not so sure

I reckon ditch the mid section BH solo and Axls screaming "I never wanted you to.. " part. You? might have a rock single on your hands then, otherwise its too complex

Thats like the best part of the song for me!

Has a fam made edited version ou there, that cuts out ?the Metal Part .... afeter heard this edited version you understand and realise wy the metal part is there , the music is so much powerful and great ?, just blow away !!!




Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: Tomorrows on June 05, 2006, 08:49:35 PM
The metal part is actually what got me into the song and Im not even that big a metal fan.

I was listening to it and tuning in and out until BANG that bit came. Ive loved it ever since.


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: newgnr on June 05, 2006, 08:52:52 PM
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=30716.msg592060#msg592060
yea but thats why i put the (ebaumsworld forum) in my title. uhhh.. hehe..? :nervous:

i know, its all good.  i just added the link to show (remind) ppl of what even more ppl think of the song


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: HoldenCaulfield on June 05, 2006, 09:20:25 PM
Yeah, no one can deny the songs greatness. Anyone who has any doubts about Axl needs to listen to 'Better'. If they don't release it as a single, it will be a HUGE missed opportunity. BTW, all of the strange guitar noises are FANTASTIC. It really adds to it...


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: Bill 213 on June 05, 2006, 09:27:52 PM
Everyone I've let listen to the song (and some of them have THEE worst taste in music you could imagine) all replied with...."Who's This?" and I'm like GNR and they're like no fucking way this rocks.  The thing about it is.....you people understand that the demo has a horrible mix.  I'm sure much work will be done to make it sound right in parts (especially the last verse where the lyrics are the same volume and clashing).  Let it be worked with in the studio and I'll sound fucking incredible once it's actually mixed and mastered correctly. 
Seriously though out of all the new songs, this one has gotten the most buzz from my friends.


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: DunkinDave on June 05, 2006, 09:41:22 PM
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Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum) 

Retarded kids at ebaumsworld are not "everybody".


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: Steel_Angel on June 05, 2006, 09:43:36 PM
you got that right. u signed up there too?


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: destroier on June 05, 2006, 09:44:03 PM
Of course they do, it's one of GNRs best. I can't wait to hear the final cut.


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: DunkinDave on June 05, 2006, 09:46:34 PM
you got that right. u signed up there too?

I'm not 11 years old, so no.


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: Steel_Angel on June 05, 2006, 09:47:39 PM
you got that right. u signed up there too?

I'm not 11 years old, so no.
yea but most of them are 30 yr old pedos aswell. u havent checked the picture section have u?? :nervous:


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: Steel_Angel on June 05, 2006, 09:59:52 PM
lol anyway, anyway  :P


Title: Re: Everybody digs "Better" :O (ebaumsworld forum)
Post by: RichardNixon on June 05, 2006, 11:09:58 PM
Im not so sure

I reckon ditch the mid section BH solo and Axls screaming "I never wanted you to.. " part. You ?might have a rock single on your hands then, otherwise its too complex

The RATM-esque "I never wanted you" is the best part, IMHO.


Title: Re: Nond-die hards digging new GNR (+Everybody digs "Better" @ Ebaumsworld)
Post by: SLCPUNK on June 05, 2006, 11:59:47 PM
They need to drop this thing as a single.........


Title: Re: Nond-die hards digging new GNR (+Everybody digs "Better" @ Ebaumsworld)
Post by: Steel_Angel on June 06, 2006, 12:01:48 AM
they must .... tomorrow    :D


Title: Re: Nond-die hards digging new GNR (+Everybody digs "Better" @ Ebaumsworld)
Post by: RichardNixon on June 06, 2006, 02:51:01 AM
They need to drop this thing as a single.........

From all the songs we've heard, I think "Better" would be a good single, but I'd open the album with "IRS."


Title: Re: Nond-die hards digging new GNR (+Everybody digs "Better" @ Ebaumsworld)
Post by: mikegiuliana on June 06, 2006, 02:53:12 AM
the only one I got positive feed back from was Better :beer: It's the only one I really really like too


Title: Re: Nond-die hards digging new GNR (+Everybody digs "Better" @ Ebaumsworld)
Post by: SLCPUNK on June 06, 2006, 03:02:39 AM
They need to drop this thing as a single.........

From all the songs we've heard, I think "Better" would be a good single, but I'd open the album with "IRS."

Either or............drop it now.   8)


Title: Re: Nond-die hards digging new GNR (+Everybody digs "Better" @ Ebaumsworld)
Post by: WARose on June 06, 2006, 04:07:32 AM
better got as much crowd response as it`s so easy where i stood at rock am ring..... : ok:


Title: Re: Nond-die hards digging new GNR (+Everybody digs "Better" @ Ebaumsworld)
Post by: A Private Eye on June 06, 2006, 06:09:05 AM
I played Better to two friends the other day who are both into rock music and they thought it was dire although unfortunately it was only the Rio performance on youtube so the sound and quality maybe didn't do it any favours but I was surprised they didn't like it.