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Title: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: SINSHINE on June 04, 2006, 09:11:35 AM
I see alot of people complaining about the Appetite heavy setlists (why, I'm still not sure) so my question is this. Would you be more satisfied with a reversed setlist (ie: mainly Illusion songs peppered with only 4 Appetite songs)?

Perhaps a setlist like this:

Welcome to the Jungle
You Could Be Mine
Live & Let Die
Bad Obsession
Pretty Tied Up
Better
Civil War
Knockin' On Heaven's Door
Sweet Child O'Mine
The Blues
I.R.S.
Don't Cry
Yesterdays
Dead Horse
November Rain
Chinese Democracy
There Was a Time
Nightrain

ENCORE:
Patience
Paradise City


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: Sagolik on June 04, 2006, 09:12:46 AM
that would be really cool actually


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: Origen on June 04, 2006, 09:13:48 AM
Of Course  ::) : ok:


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: Calcy on June 04, 2006, 09:22:20 AM
Cool, but people would still probably moan. Can't win!


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: Mandy. on June 04, 2006, 09:22:37 AM
I would kill to see Pretty Tied Up being played live again!!!

And Estranged.....


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: AxlFink on June 04, 2006, 09:23:41 AM
ive actually wanted to suggest that everyone post their perfect gnr setlist.  it would be interesting to see what people would come up with. 


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: Tomorrows on June 04, 2006, 09:34:52 AM
Thats a pretty cool setlist actually.


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: jimmythegent on June 04, 2006, 09:43:35 AM
I think people would be happier because it would not only provide a bit of variation, it would also be a bit more daring and adventurous. AFD is proven and hallowed turf to a degree.

Some areas of UYI still remain somewhat unexplored and could be more suitable material for this lineup


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: makane on June 04, 2006, 09:43:42 AM
Cool, but people would still probably moan. Can't win!
I would. 15 old songs and 5 new. Yippee...


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: Mandy. on June 04, 2006, 09:52:24 AM
Some areas of UYI still remain somewhat unexplored and could be more suitable material for this lineup

Yes, yes, indeed.

They could play something like Right Next Door to Hell or Don't Damn Me.


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: eddiesson on June 04, 2006, 10:08:29 AM
more Appetite songs brings the inevitable comparison of Slash vs. new guitarists. And new songs breaks the integrity of the setlist. UYI's mark the passage from a hard rock band to a fresh sounding, experimental rock band.

I won't propose a setlist, because it's an endless discussion, but I would be very glad to hear:

1. Locomotive (3 different guitars solos and very interesting guitar tones at the end + piano)
2. Breakdown (same reason)
3. Double Talkin Jive (it would be interesting to hear with new layers of sound and 3 guitars)
4. Estranged
5. Coma

and I will be happy if thet drop "Knocking on Heavens Door" and "Live and Let Die". they are not even original GNR songs! I'd rather hear two original GNR songs from UYI instead of them.


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: Back Off Bitch on June 04, 2006, 10:23:54 AM
I'd like em to drop LALD but lately with the 'I sing one, you sing one" I know it... Drop Patience & My Michelle, IMO too...


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: Agno on June 04, 2006, 10:38:22 AM
That would be awesome


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: nesquick on June 04, 2006, 10:41:44 AM
All those Illusion songs can't work without Slash because he is a genius.


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: life_247 on June 04, 2006, 12:28:16 PM
Why can AFD work and not UYI songs ????

Lol i discovered the other day that izzy doesn't play on civil war, i was quite surprised. Its a cornerstone of the UYI II album and lacks the izz-man. Anyhoo i Digress.

I would like to see civil war and estranged. Possibly if izzy joins them do like some of his UYI songs like "Right Next Door to hell" or "Double Talkin.." or "Pretty tied up".

As for KOHD, that song lift's the roof when played. LALD is a little too close to the orginal with all the synths and none of the guitarist's attempted the like neck run up the way slash did (and i do - braggin' I know) in 2001/2. (Can't comment on 2006 as there are no really decent videos of it yet.)


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: Mandy. on June 04, 2006, 12:41:05 PM
All those Illusion songs can't work without Slash because he is a genius.

Wow, how weird. I've also heard people saying SCOM wouldn't work without Slash, but the guitar on SCOM ROCKS! (The song itself is shit nowadays though, but that's besides the point, cos it's to do with the keyboards, not guitars)


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: makane on June 04, 2006, 01:01:28 PM
All those Illusion songs can't work without Slash because he is a genius.

Wow, how weird. I've also heard people saying SCOM wouldn't work without Slash, but the guitar on SCOM ROCKS! (The song itself is shit nowadays though, but that's besides the point, cos it's to do with the keyboards, not guitars)
Well, that is just your opinion.
We shouldn't be thinking what they should bring out of the OLD catalogue, but what they should bring out of the NEW  :-\

1. Locomotive
2. Breakdown
3. Double Talkin Jive
4. Estranged
5. Coma

All these songs have a  "classic-rock" vibe. The new-gn'r represents more industrial sound(and I actually can't imagine Finck doing any of those, come on, him doing Breakdown or Locomotive? :no:), so that's my reason why they're not playing those.


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: daubs on June 04, 2006, 01:11:26 PM
i think that first list was too heavy on UYI. i like the current  setlest.  most people going to the shows either want to see 1.appetite (old gnr) or 2.the new band. its just the die hards that want to hear UYI's. the only UYI song i really miss hearing is 'pretty tied up'...i think thats pretty much agreed across the board.


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: justincrowe on June 04, 2006, 01:19:54 PM
don't know about that setlist but it'd be cool if they changed it around a little more. The Black Crowes and Pearl Jam, for example, never play the same set twice while on tour. Guns should take a cue from those guys.

personally i'd love to see them add stuff like Coma or Civil War or Sympathy For The Devil.


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on June 04, 2006, 01:41:57 PM
for the people like us who sees 5 shows in one month and download 'em all, yeah it' be cool

for the simple guy who just wanna go to a GNR concert - meaning 80% of the crowd - , he'd be mad not to get his favorite tunes, which are, admit, mostly appetite and some UYI hits.


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: wadey on June 04, 2006, 03:23:51 PM
dont forget NEW ROSE from tsi  ;D


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: jimmythegent on June 04, 2006, 05:35:58 PM
All those Illusion songs can't work without Slash because he is a genius.

Wow, how weird. I've also heard people saying SCOM wouldn't work without Slash, but the guitar on SCOM ROCKS! (The song itself is shit nowadays though, but that's besides the point, cos it's to do with the keyboards, not guitars)

yeah, I always felt that SCOM intro riff would have sounded so much better with some clunky keys and bongos thrown in!  :hihi:


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: Eclipsed107 on June 04, 2006, 08:38:11 PM
Actually I think if you add Don't Cry, 1 more Illusion song and make sure you play 7 new songs the set would be fine.  Play Madagascar, TWAT, Better, IRS, CD, The Blues, and one of others (citr, omg, rhaid) and you'll have a fine set.

7 Appetite
7 CD
6 Illusions
1 Lies

Can't get much more equil than that.


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: HoldenCaulfield on June 04, 2006, 08:43:39 PM
No, I don't want a UYI-heavy set-list. I'm a huge fan of the AFD stuff, I just think they should play the new stuff every night.  I have to say, I wouldn't mind 'Civil War' or 'Locomotive', though...


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: Krispy Kreme on June 05, 2006, 12:11:17 AM
I don't get why people bitch about a setlist that is AFD heavy. It is one of the best albums ever. Ever. It made GNR what  is it today. The new songs are good, but not up to AFD quality. And any set list that is heavy with UYI songs is going to rock. So I don't see how the band can do bad by playing the old songs with a mix of 4-6 'new' songs, three of  which are leftovers from 2002.


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: McDuff on June 05, 2006, 12:21:01 AM
It wouldn't matter what songs they did,there's alot of people who would still bitch about it


Title: Re: Happier with a reversed setlist?
Post by: eddiesson on June 05, 2006, 02:54:52 AM
1. Locomotive
2. Breakdown
3. Double Talkin Jive
4. Estranged
5. Coma

All these songs have a  "classic-rock" vibe. The new-gn'r represents more industrial sound(and I actually can't imagine Finck doing any of those, come on, him doing Breakdown or Locomotive? :no:), so that's my reason why they're not playing those.

hey, the band is playing more than half of AFD, which is the EPITOME of the hard rock :) so replacing them with another classic rock songs wouldn't make so much problem. And the songs they play from UYI are YCBM, NR, KOHD... they don't sound industrial at all too.

but mind you, they are not short rocker songs like It's So Easy, or Back Off Bitch. they give room for guitarists to show their quality and impress the crowd. these are complex songs which can include many new layers of sound unlike short rockers. So, the two keyboardist can give more input (than they give to Mr. Brownstone or My Michelle) Double Talkin Jive can be very interesting with a guitarist like Ron Thal.

and finally, Coma is very suitable to be played with industrial influence.

Oh I must add Perfect Crime to the list.