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I remember this sort of debate last year with people wondering how a band like VR who have there fair share of ballards, will be recieved by a largely metal audience.

These sorts of festivals have played hosts to Metallica, Slipknot , Megadeth, AC/DC, Black Sabbath etc. These being particularly heavy bands hence it appeals to a more heavy fan base.

Taking into account that GN'R are a hugely popular band it will be no problem, but do you think the fans that aren't their specifically for Guns but are watching them regardless will take well to the piano solos, the band jams, the ballards etc.? Do you think Axl will take this into account when considering the setlist and cut the jams down and include heavier numbers?

i don't like festivals,because there are many manynon gnr fans.
in budapest 13000 people sang with axl

well i think they will be received well. gnr is still a guitar driven band : ok:

I'm still old school too, and consider GnR to be hard rock/metal, like not as hard core as bands you mentioned but during their time they were considered metalish and alot of metal heads i know still consider AFD to be one of the best albums ever.

Yes! I totaly agree  : ok:

Too true, fuck this new material, i'm not even sure how well November Rain would go down at download. All the people at my school that are going plan on booing if he plays any new songs. (i played them the leaks). But since they're headlining the last day, who knows? people might not be in a headbanging mood by the time gnr come on stage. Plus i know they throw a lot of bottles and shit during download. Wouldn't be surprised if Axl stops in a song and tells them to calm down. :hihi:

I think GnR will get a mixed reception at festivals like this. Of course there'll be the usual haters that'll just watch them to be negative, but at the same time GnR are definitely experiencing huge amounts of popularity nowadays. So it'll be a mixture of both probably

when i wes at leeds festival 2002,all day they had bands like hundred reasons,slipknot,ragin speedhorn,nofx,and i thought GNR were goin to get booed off,but to my suprise id never seen 50,000 poeple shut the fuck up and get their lighters out for november rain.amazing  : ok:

if your into rock, metal and don't like GNR you got problems.  :P  most metal bands these days all sound the same its boring.  ::) 2nd part of November Rain is kind of heavy. Any festival like whoever said your gonna have your haters. Not everyone likes everything.

At the leeds festival in 2002 there were more G N' R fans there than all the rest put together....G N' R have always been an outdoor band and they always seem to give better performances outside at stadiums and festivals.

Guns owned Leeds in 2002. 8)

They are gonna own DOWNLOAD 2  8) ;D

didnt they  :yes:  : ok:

Depends what kind of fans show up. Hardcore metal fans do not like Axl Rose in general. If it was the original line-up they would fair a better chance. But we will see... I dont think they will be boo'ed of stage. But those bands you mentioned aren't even that heavy so its nothing to worry about.

All true, but download has the most hardcore metal fans around apart from those guys that want to kill people. And yes they do hate Axl. But that said if the band plays well Axl could change a lotta people's minds.

In the original post you mentioned AC/DC and Black Sabbath. These two bands particulary AC/DC, are not as heavy as GnR, so if their ok to play so will GnR. I just think the fact they are rock legends it doesn't matter if they are not metal enough because they influenced so many metal bands.

When Guns first got announced to play, the forum at the official Download site was full of extremely scathing comments and remarks, most of them ill-informed.

But since the Hammerstein shows and the emergence of Axl into public life again, perceptions are becoming increasingly positive.

I think they will do fine, gnr's such a known name today it's like ac/dc or something showing up..  I know many aren't into the axl is gnr bullshit and what not but it should be all good

I never go by what boards say, two different types those who post and those who go see them..

Fair point, but the Download forum is more or less run by people who are going to the festival.

Anyways, as we've seen from the shows so far, the band are playing enough of the classics to make most people happy.

that's it' it'll be heavy afd and everyone knows these songs, they'll be playing it safe as usuall.. How can you go wrong playing mostly songs from one of the best debut rock albums ever?

GnR should be recieved well at the up and coming festivals. What with so many bands playing, there is less of a we came to see just one band kind of feel as is normally associated with concerts put on by a band just for themselves.

i'm not familiar with the crowd of these big festivals since i've never been to one.. but if its mostly semi-gothy metalheads that are  more into slipknot and metallica then they might not take gnr too keenly.. i know plenty of people, formerly of my own circle of friends, who were into the whole heavy metal scene but didnt like gnr because of all the bad rep axl had

If it was the original GN'R lineup...I'm 110% certain that they would get an absolutely AMAZING reception. But since its just Axl with a hole new band I think it will be a poor if not awful reception.

Get Ready To Hear Alot Of "SLASH" chants.

Thats a garuntee.

I dunno about alot. After 2002 it's more widely known Slash is long gone. I think Download will be receptive to the band.

playing the festivals is smart, because people who wouldn't go to just a gn'r solo show get to see the new band...and seeing the new gn'r live is the best publicity they can get...

how many people wil get chance to throw bottles when G N' R are on stage, the whole crowd will be packed like sardines and will be unable to move their arms nevermind throw bottles. plus when the sea of people starts to move and jump you aint got a clue where you are  ;D ;D

But that band you talk of is NOT the band we're getting for Download.  I purchased SEVEN tickets for me and my friends etc to go (I Paid for everyone) because I was so excited about GnR (among other bands)... I then watched Rio and my heart sank.  Truly, I was scared for Guns N' Roses at Download.  They are not the raw hard rock band you saw before... it's a COMPLETELY different band.  Not as raw... not as heavy... not as guitar driven (anyone who says they're the same band is blind ... since the new members are just that... new.  Not the same.  Therefore ... different... www.dictionary.com for definitions guys).

haha...but the music is the same for the most part :P AFD is GnR's most metal album to date so theretically the AFD fans should get a kick out of seeing these songs performed by the orig (only) GnR frontman. but some people will prolly be, "where's slash", metal fans are usually diehards for the guitarists :hihi:

If that is true they will know how great ron talh is. And they should be impressed with Robin and Dickie

The new band is much more guitar driven, they have three lead players for crying out loud. 

None of which can compare to Slash.

Why do you even post here?  Slash is gone and never coming back, get over it!

And three fucking keyboard players including Axl!  Sorry dude, but proprotionately, they're NOT guitar driven as much as the classic band... you can't say I am not right!  Come on, put aside the differences of our opinions, and just admit that this band is not as hard rock as the classic.  Let me just make you aware.  Metallica are headlining the Sat.  That day sold out ages ago.  GnR's day, the Sunday, hasn't, and wont sell out ... I hate to say.  Axl's new band looks more like a vegas act.  Shiny purple lights everywhere, and the clothes Axl wears... he looks like a fucking pimp!  He used to be the epitomy of sleazy rock.  Not anymore dude... not anymore :(

I don't think the Donnington crowd's reaction will be great, to be honest, especially if they continue with all the solos and the wankery, but neither is it likely to be bad. At least they're not playing on the night England play in the World Cup ?: ok:

GNR's UK tour will go down much better, obviously.

well axl only plays keys on one song first off...and yes you are right..gnr isn't as hard core as they used to be but they are still pretty guitar driven...how many bands have like 6 guitar solo's during the show? seriously

Guitars have nothing to do with it. The Prodigy have played the festival. If the crowd can mosh to it, it's all good.

I believe it will depend on how much energy the Gunners can create from the opening. An opening of WTTJ, Nighttrain, Mr. Brownstone, with high energy and plenty of intensity will blow the crowd away. Then Axl can rest for a solo before YCBM or Its So Easy. Then I think the crowd will be theirs and they can do what they want from there.
To answer the question I think that GNR will do just fine there.

if GnR ever play a concert with no guitar players then i think it's safe to say that there will be a riot :nervous: :nervous:

In gnr, guitars have "EVERYTHING" to do with it :peace:

True, I just meaqnt that guitars aren't the be all and end all at Download. Obviously none of us ever want to hear anything like what we heard on that RIR stream from GNR ever again? : ok:

But I also agree with jsg2295. WTTJ and It's So Easy should see them off to a good start, so they don't want to then go on faffing around with knockin' On Heaven's Door for ten minutes like they did at RIR. I feel KOHD is generally too early in the set at the moment anyway.

lol..true...that had to have been a monitor mix or something though....people who went to RIR said it was great


Yeah they should move it right off the setlist....like after they go home :hihi: i wish they would stop playing the cover tunes

come on you don't want heavy afd and a few covers neemo :hihi:

Im going to download n know a few other ppl there who will welcome axl and co. with open arms.

Yeah, there are gonna be some hard, metal ppl there who wont be in to the new GnR, but there are also gonna be s***loads of ppl like me, eagerly awaitin Axl and GnR.

I know im gonna enjoy it and that its going to be bloody amazing!

He will close up the festival with an awesome performance.

VR have their fair share of ballads?  They have 3, only 2 of which they play live.  ???

Thats probably 2 more than most of the bands on these bills