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Title: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: CAFC Nick on June 01, 2006, 07:27:58 PM
It will be released on Nov 11 2006 and Nov 17 2006 in Japan and North America, Europe, Australia respectively

Will cost $499 for the less-equipped model with a 20-gb HD and $599 [?425] for the better-equipped model with a 60-gb HD.

What's everyones view on it?

The redesigned controller now has gyroscopic functionality and is wireless, with a USB port in the top to link it to the PS3 to recharge the batteries. The disc-drive is the Blu-Ray drive which is the reason for the extortionate cost.

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Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: axlrosegnr on June 01, 2006, 07:36:38 PM
I've always stuck by Sony....I can't wait...the price sucks though...but I don't know, to me SOny is like Gn'R, I'll stick by them no matter what :)


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: themovieaddict.com on June 01, 2006, 07:37:59 PM
I'll tell you why it's a waste of money - the reason it's so damn expensive is for the Blu-Ray player. That's the reason for the delay, and the reason initial costs put it near $1,000 dollars - and they reduced the size of the hard drive to cut back on costs. The final outcome of PS3 will be proportionate to Xbox 360 in terms of graphics.

Blu-Ray is not going to become the new format of video. I thought it would be at first when reading about it, but then I realized it's being marketed very much like UMDs (which were a major flop) and name-wise it will never be able to compete with HD-DVD. The average consumer isn't going to be able to make the transition to Blu-Ray as easily because when they see HD-DVDs on the shelves (which have boxes that are the same size as normal DVDs, as opposed to Blu-Ray's smaller and ugly boxes) they're going to think, "DVD - that's what I've got." MOST people (read: older people who aren't into technology) aren't going to understand what a Blu-Ray is. Anything that incorporates DVD in its title is going to win. And since HD-DVDs are so similar to normal DVDs in terms of marketing and packaging it will be a much easier transition for people.

Plus, HD-DVD is being supported and pushed by Microsoft and Warner Bros, whereas Blu-Ray's only real supporter is Sony and companies such as Artisen, etc., which are smaller scale.

Plus, GTA5 is coming out on Xbox and PS3 simultaneously this time - and the only reason I was even contemplating holding off for a PS3 was due to GTA being launched on the platform.

Financially I think Sony is fucked because they've had so many delays and production problems that by the time it's released people are all going to have invested in Xboxes, and if the Blu-Rays are a failure and HD-DVD becomes dominant then it's going to render the Blu-Ray drive useless and cost them more money.


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: lul on June 01, 2006, 07:50:54 PM
everyone has to have one..  :peace:


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: pilferk on June 02, 2006, 08:20:42 AM
I have pretty much every game console (non-portable) known to man....

I bought a 360 for Oblivion about 6 months after release, and didn't mind paying the $399 for the platinum version of the console.

I won't pay $599 for the PS3.  No way, no how.  It's just too expensive.  So, I'll wait a year or two until Sony realizes that their sell through is going to be outrageously pathetic until they can hit something closer to a mass market price.

Given the fact the E3 showing of PS3 games pretty much put the graphics on par with the 360's games, and given the inordinate price.....Just not worth it.


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: anythinggoes on June 02, 2006, 09:26:08 AM
well ive popped into game to register myself so i can put down a deposit when its comes time to do so the guy told me ?425 with a 60gb harddrive but europe wont be getting the 20gb version???? dont know if thats correct though

looks like ill be playing one on day of release might buy two and sell one a friend of mine did it with xbox360 and basically got his for ?100 not bad


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on June 02, 2006, 10:01:51 AM
yeah ... i'm gonna continue pushing on buttons on a old school pad like some LOOSER ! when i can swing my arms around with my Wii Wii super cool controlers !!!


yeah right. like i'm gonna a looser with a playstation !!

ps3 sucks why ?

01 ) it sucks
10 ) it blows


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: CAFC Nick on June 02, 2006, 10:09:59 AM
I'm getting one with the money that I recieve for going to school from the Government? ;D


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: Danny Top Hat on June 02, 2006, 10:20:34 AM
Excellent 600th post dude! : ok:


I'll probably get one when the price goes down, but i'm getting a Wii first


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: Sakib on June 02, 2006, 10:29:05 AM
I will eventually get one when the price goes way down? ?425??? My dad aint ever gonna pay that money for a Console. Probably get one from Pakistan for cheaper.

I dont get the advantage of a USB with the controller. Whats the advantage?


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: CAFC Nick on June 02, 2006, 10:37:19 AM
I will eventually get one when the price goes way down? ?425??? My dad aint ever gonna pay that money for a Console. Probably get one from Pakistan for cheaper.

I dont get the advantage of a USB with the controller. Whats the advantage?


Well the controller is wireless which consumes battery power. The USB connection is so you can plug the controllers into the PS3 to charge up their batteries, unlike the Xbox360 for which you have to continuously buy 2 new AA batteries for each controller every time they run out.


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: pilferk on June 02, 2006, 10:48:01 AM
yeah ... i'm gonna continue pushing on buttons on a old school pad like some LOOSER ! when i can swing my arms around with my Wii Wii super cool controlers !!!


yeah right. like i'm gonna a looser with a playstation !!

ps3 sucks why ?

01 ) it sucks
10 ) it blows

Actually, that Wii controller is why I will never, ever buy a Wii.

I could never play with people actually IN the room.  I'd end up killing someone.

It's a good idea, but it's completely impractical for 75% of the world.  Saw it "in action" during E3, hoping that the required range of motion would be small enough to actually be useful.  From the looks of things....it's not.


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: pilferk on June 02, 2006, 10:52:07 AM
I will eventually get one when the price goes way down? ?425??? My dad aint ever gonna pay that money for a Console. Probably get one from Pakistan for cheaper.

I dont get the advantage of a USB with the controller. Whats the advantage?


Well the controller is wireless which consumes battery power. The USB connection is so you can plug the controllers into the PS3 to charge up their batteries, unlike the Xbox360 for which you have to continuously buy 2 new AA batteries for each controller every time they run out.

Or spring for $20 or $30 for the rechargable battery pack and charger...which does the exact same thing the PS3 controller makes you do...plug it into a USB slot to charge.


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: CAFC Nick on June 02, 2006, 11:18:19 AM
I will eventually get one when the price goes way down? ?425??? My dad aint ever gonna pay that money for a Console. Probably get one from Pakistan for cheaper.

I dont get the advantage of a USB with the controller. Whats the advantage?


Well the controller is wireless which consumes battery power. The USB connection is so you can plug the controllers into the PS3 to charge up their batteries, unlike the Xbox360 for which you have to continuously buy 2 new AA batteries for each controller every time they run out.

Or spring for $20 or $30 for the rechargable battery pack and charger...which does the exact same thing the PS3 controller makes you do...plug it into a USB slot to charge.

But the PS3 one means it already comes with rechargeable features straight from the box unlike having to spend yet more money on a controller which doesn't run out of charge every few hours.


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: pilferk on June 02, 2006, 11:32:56 AM

But the PS3 one means it already comes with rechargeable features straight from the box unlike having to spend yet more money on a controller which doesn't run out of charge every few hours.

Sure, but you're paying at least $200 more for the PS3 box, so.....they're just rolling the extra cost into the standard package.? You're not actually "spending yet more money" on the 360..you're just spending it up front on the PS3, rather than having a choice to buy it or not with the 360.

 Hell, I've seen X-box "bundles" that include a game  (PGR3), the charger pack, the premium edition 360, and an extra controller for $499 (at BJ's Wholesale). Even that's $100 bucks cheaper AND you get an extra wireless controller AND a game.


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on June 02, 2006, 11:45:20 AM
yeah ... i'm gonna continue pushing on buttons on a old school pad like some LOOSER ! when i can swing my arms around with my Wii Wii super cool controlers !!!


yeah right. like i'm gonna a looser with a playstation !!

ps3 sucks why ?

01 ) it sucks
10 ) it blows

Actually, that Wii controller is why I will never, ever buy a Wii.

I could never play with people actually IN the room.  I'd end up killing someone.

It's a good idea, but it's completely impractical for 75% of the world.  Saw it "in action" during E3, hoping that the required range of motion would be small enough to actually be useful.  From the looks of things....it's not.

nah
i've seen many footages
i used the controller back in september, then january and ... it works
both wide movements, and smaller ones.
works great. and it was like earlt alpha version, i'm sure the e3 version is perfect now

anyway.
if a game's good , it will be good no matter on what system
but then the PS3 price ... come on.


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: unoturbo on June 02, 2006, 12:08:38 PM
I thought the PS3 would wipe the floor with the competition from the off but it's going to be held back initially at those prices: you can get an X-Box 360 and Wii for the same price as one PS3! The Wii especially has surprised me by how strong it looks and the controller may solve the only real thing wrong with consoles - you can't play first person shooty games on them for shit.

However, considering the fact that 90% of people are fucking idiots, the PS3 will probably dominate eventually. A hell of a lot of people are loyal to brands no matter what, which is insane, and parents that don't know any better are going to be pursuaded by the Sony name too. Sony is basically gambling its future that this console will be a success and so it will do everything it can to gain market share. The only unknown is the Blu Ray drive, if the format fails Sony will be left to produce very limited numbers of disks which will increase the cost of games considerably.


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: Captain P?l on June 02, 2006, 12:39:26 PM
nintendo rules!

whats new in PS that does NOT involve graphics? nothing, well, the loading the controller thing, way to go Sony! way to go...

while Sony did that, Nintendo revolutionized the whole controller.... fun..


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on June 02, 2006, 12:49:10 PM
I thought the PS3 would wipe the floor with the competition from the off but it's going to be held back initially at those prices: you can get an X-Box 360 and Wii for the same price as one PS3! The Wii especially has surprised me by how strong it looks and the controller may solve the only real thing wrong with consoles - you can't play first person shooty games on them for shit.

However, considering the fact that 90% of people are fucking idiots, the PS3 will probably dominate eventually. A hell of a lot of people are loyal to brands no matter what, which is insane, and parents that don't know any better are going to be pursuaded by the Sony name too. Sony is basically gambling its future that this console will be a success and so it will do everything it can to gain market share. The only unknown is the Blu Ray drive, if the format fails Sony will be left to produce very limited numbers of disks which will increase the cost of games considerably.

people are idiots to some point. when it's expensive. it's expensive ...
the ipod trend really started when the prices started to look normal.


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: BA on June 02, 2006, 01:06:32 PM
I'll tell you why it's a waste of money - the reason it's so damn expensive is for the Blu-Ray player. That's the reason for the delay, and the reason initial costs put it near $1,000 dollars - and they reduced the size of the hard drive to cut back on costs. The final outcome of PS3 will be proportionate to Xbox 360 in terms of graphics.

Blu-Ray is not going to become the new format of video. I thought it would be at first when reading about it, but then I realized it's being marketed very much like UMDs (which were a major flop) and name-wise it will never be able to compete with HD-DVD. The average consumer isn't going to be able to make the transition to Blu-Ray as easily because when they see HD-DVDs on the shelves (which have boxes that are the same size as normal DVDs, as opposed to Blu-Ray's smaller and ugly boxes) they're going to think, "DVD - that's what I've got." MOST people (read: older people who aren't into technology) aren't going to understand what a Blu-Ray is. Anything that incorporates DVD in its title is going to win. And since HD-DVDs are so similar to normal DVDs in terms of marketing and packaging it will be a much easier transition for people.

Plus, HD-DVD is being supported and pushed by Microsoft and Warner Bros, whereas Blu-Ray's only real supporter is Sony and companies such as Artisen, etc., which are smaller scale.

Plus, GTA5 is coming out on Xbox and PS3 simultaneously this time - and the only reason I was even contemplating holding off for a PS3 was due to GTA being launched on the platform.

Financially I think Sony is fucked because they've had so many delays and production problems that by the time it's released people are all going to have invested in Xboxes, and if the Blu-Rays are a failure and HD-DVD becomes dominant then it's going to render the Blu-Ray drive useless and cost them more money.

i totally disagree.the market of the people that buy consoles will totally undertand.
everyone i know is either waiting for the ps3 or will buy it as well as already buying the x box.


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on June 02, 2006, 01:10:58 PM
are they aware of the price ?


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: pilferk on June 02, 2006, 01:17:58 PM

i totally disagree.the market of the people that buy consoles will totally undertand.
everyone i know is either waiting for the ps3 or will buy it as well as already buying the x box.

We'll see. ?I'm right in the target wheelhouse demographic (almost 32) and there's no way in hell I'll spend $700 (including game and tax) for this system. ?No way. I've bought (or had bought for me) every system I have (NES, Sega MS, SNES, Saturn, Dreamcast, PS, N64, PS2, Xbox, Gamecube, and 360) within 6 months of release, and usually quicker than that. ?There's no way I'll do that with the PS3 unless the price drops a couple hundred dollars.

 And given the loud public outcry that's been documented across the press and the forums, I think there's a LARGE number of people who feel the same way. ?It's just too damn expensive and, until that price comes down to something a little more mass market, their numbers are going to be no where near what their competitors are. ?I'd be worried, if I were them, that I could push through enough units to make "break even" on software. ?They're not offering enough product to charge that kind of premium on it....Blu-Ray or not.

Now, of course, the other option could be that Sony is purposely lowering demand by charging so much, because they know their production is going to be limited. ?It's a way to avoid the 360 launch "shortage" type issues that plagued the console for so long....they couldn't keep up with platinum system demand even at the higher price tag. ?Maybe Sony is figuring they need to charge the extra $200 a system in order to squash some of the demand.....I don't know. ?I HOPE that's the case and SOE is planning a good sized price drop by next years E3. ?'Cause you KNOW that 360 is going to drop their price somewhere around the time Sony releases the PS3, just to steal a bit of their thunder, and certainly by the time the WII comes out.


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: themovieaddict.com on June 02, 2006, 01:21:36 PM
I'll tell you why it's a waste of money - the reason it's so damn expensive is for the Blu-Ray player. That's the reason for the delay, and the reason initial costs put it near $1,000 dollars - and they reduced the size of the hard drive to cut back on costs. The final outcome of PS3 will be proportionate to Xbox 360 in terms of graphics.

Blu-Ray is not going to become the new format of video. I thought it would be at first when reading about it, but then I realized it's being marketed very much like UMDs (which were a major flop) and name-wise it will never be able to compete with HD-DVD. The average consumer isn't going to be able to make the transition to Blu-Ray as easily because when they see HD-DVDs on the shelves (which have boxes that are the same size as normal DVDs, as opposed to Blu-Ray's smaller and ugly boxes) they're going to think, "DVD - that's what I've got." MOST people (read: older people who aren't into technology) aren't going to understand what a Blu-Ray is. Anything that incorporates DVD in its title is going to win. And since HD-DVDs are so similar to normal DVDs in terms of marketing and packaging it will be a much easier transition for people.

Plus, HD-DVD is being supported and pushed by Microsoft and Warner Bros, whereas Blu-Ray's only real supporter is Sony and companies such as Artisen, etc., which are smaller scale.

Plus, GTA5 is coming out on Xbox and PS3 simultaneously this time - and the only reason I was even contemplating holding off for a PS3 was due to GTA being launched on the platform.

Financially I think Sony is fucked because they've had so many delays and production problems that by the time it's released people are all going to have invested in Xboxes, and if the Blu-Rays are a failure and HD-DVD becomes dominant then it's going to render the Blu-Ray drive useless and cost them more money.

i totally disagree.the market of the people that buy consoles will totally undertand.
everyone i know is either waiting for the ps3 or will buy it as well as already buying the x box.

Believe it or not, sales reach beyond die-hard Internet-forum-reading gamers like yourself. There are other markets out there and I have spoken to a lot of gamers who criticize the PS3 for its cost, delays, and Blu-Ray.


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: Gunner80 on June 02, 2006, 03:07:45 PM
The $600.00 price tag is a tough cookie to swallow.  I'm gonna wait until all the bugs have been worked out.


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: Jamie on June 02, 2006, 03:39:13 PM
I think I'm gonna wait a year or two for this one, I'm a video game fan, but not a big enough one to fork out as much as it's goin for. This things usually come out are a mad price for a few months and then dip so I'll probably invest in one then


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: liquidvirus on October 06, 2006, 04:27:40 AM
the XBOX 360 is great..the cell processor is over powered for gameplay for at laeast 5 years...and the price tags and the blu ray discs...nonono...Sonys dropping the ball on tis one...I just bought the XBOX 360...got it chipped...now i can buy games that work for only $4 :D


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: Eclipsed107 on October 06, 2006, 05:20:35 PM
PS3 - 599.99 (cuz the 499.99 version is shit....)
1 Game - 59.99
-------------------------
659.98

658.98 x 1.06 (sales tax) =$ 699.58

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I'm sorry, I love the PS2 and the PS1 but Sony has lost their mind, there's now way I'm paying that much for a video game system, and I think that this generation war is going to be neck and neck between the 3 systems (360, Wii and PS3) because of Sony's arrogance and stupidty to price their system so high.

Sony's biggest mistake was making Blu-Ray mandatory.  They're forcing this tech. on us when they shouldn't be.  I don't have a TV capable of playing Blu-Ray, and I won't for years... just like most consumers.  There's no way we should have to pay an extra 200 bucks so Sony can force this on us.

Do what Microsoft did.. they put the HD-DVD system seperate, for an extra hundred bucks.

I'll be picking up a Wii and Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess on November 19th very much and saving a boatload of money.


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: Origen on October 07, 2006, 05:00:07 AM
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Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?

There is alot of competition with this generation of consoles. The Xbox 360 is doing very well, the Nintendo Wii although a stupid name will probably do better then the Gamecube. With the prices of the PS3 and Xbox 360 being released months before it,  I don't know how well it'll do in the market compared to the previous two.


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: pilferk on October 10, 2006, 10:13:28 AM
So, what do you all think about the fact that Elder Scrolls: Oblivion is coming out for the PS3, at launch or shortly thereafter?


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on October 10, 2006, 11:42:19 AM
3 years old so-so game ? yeah. great.


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: pilferk on October 10, 2006, 11:49:43 AM
3 years old so-so game ? yeah. great.

What???

No, Oblivion is less than 1 year old..came out in March-ish of this year.? Maybe you 're thinking of Morrowind?

Oblivion, to date, is the best selling (and, IMHO, best overall) Xbox 360 game that's been released.? Hardly a "so-so game".

It's not enough to compel me to buy a PS3 (since I already own a 360 and Oblivion), but it's certainly a tough shot at the 360.? The PS3 now has the 360's (debatably) best game, with additional content with somewhat encanced graphics (the draw in is supposedly less severe and the distant landscape is a bit less dramatically different than the near landscape).? I'd say that's a bit of a coup.


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: Guns N RockMusic on October 10, 2006, 11:13:13 PM
I reserved my PS3 today at a Gamestop.  I'm guarunteed one at launch since they only reserved for their allocation and I'm 3rd on the list.  I haven't decided if I'm gonna sell it or keep it.  I'm 6th on a list at another store, so I'm hoping I can sell my first one for double the cost and use the profit to pay for my other one that I may get at release or a few weeks later.


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: w.axl.rose on October 11, 2006, 01:15:02 AM
I'm getting one with the money that I recieve for going to school from the Government  ;D

haha same here


Title: Re: Playstation 3 - What's everyone's view?
Post by: Mr Rage on October 11, 2006, 04:50:05 PM
when is it going to be released in europe i heard it that it has been delayed