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Title: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: domingo on May 29, 2006, 01:56:36 AM
Hi friends!!! i?ve been in the Madrid and Lisboa concerts and i wonder if anybody noticed that in the Richard Fortus/Robin Fink solo they play that Christina Aguilera?s song called "Beautiful"...Why? Good Lord! Why? hate that song!!! and what about Robin?s new look? he looked like a homeless or maybe Jesuschrist Superstar!!!!


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: jameslofton29 on May 29, 2006, 01:59:36 AM
I dont understand why they play that song either. Maybe its some sort of inside joke or something, or Axl just likes it. Who knows?

:phone: Mysteron?       :hihi:


As far as Finck, his look is much better than the gothic freak look of 2002. He looks like a normal person now.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Mobenrad on May 29, 2006, 02:08:03 AM
I think it's a great idea. They aren't playing it for nothing.

GOOD JOB FORTUS AND FINCK!!! : ok: : ok: : ok: :beer: :beer:


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Schwarzgold on May 29, 2006, 02:12:09 AM
I hate the song to, and THEREFORE its cool to see how the (technically) ?same music rocks, if it's played soulfully on guitars. I thinks its a cool idea.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Top-Hatted One on May 29, 2006, 02:13:01 AM
I dont understand why they play that song either. Maybe its some sort of inside joke or something, or Axl just likes it. Who knows?

:phone: Mysteron?       :hihi:


As far as Finck, his look is much better than the gothic freak look of 2002. He looks like a normal person now.

normal?  ;D


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: saint seiya on May 29, 2006, 02:15:42 AM
robin had a thing for aguilera


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: alexh0618 on May 29, 2006, 02:30:14 AM
Richard and Robin playing that song was one of the best parts at Rio IMO. I hate the original song but they made it orgasmic.

Yes, I said orgasmic.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: mega_music on May 29, 2006, 02:31:16 AM
Richard and Robin playing that song was one of the best parts at Rio IMO. I hate the original song but they made it orgasmic.

Yes, I said orgasmic.

I agree, I loved the little jam on beautiful!


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on May 29, 2006, 02:33:53 AM
It's actually a very cool idea, they cover a song no one would expect them to and make it sound great.  So what's the problem?


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Brody on May 29, 2006, 02:42:24 AM
I really like it! I thought it was great!


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: BlackGuns_15 on May 29, 2006, 02:48:54 AM
Richard used to play guitar for Brittany Spears and N'sync...im sure he picked up Christina Aguileras "beautiful" song somewhere along the lines of the era....it sounded cool and i like how robin and him just jam out...reminds me of izzy/gilby and slash!


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: BLS-Pride on May 29, 2006, 02:56:24 AM
Richard used to play guitar for Brittany Spears and N'sync...im sure he picked up Christina Aguileras "beautiful" song somewhere along the lines of the era....it sounded cool and i like how robin and him just jam out...reminds me of izzy/gilby and slash!

Those names along with covering any material have no place in hard rock.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Schwarzgold on May 29, 2006, 03:05:16 AM
But "America The Beautiful" has?   :hihi:

 Seriously, I think you can turn many of the crappy popsongs of the last 20 years in wonderful rock versions. You just have to dig deep sometimes.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Ines_rocks! on May 29, 2006, 03:08:16 AM
ye I hated it, thought it was lame... like, what the hell does it has to do with GN?R?? oh god. :confused:


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: BlackGuns_15 on May 29, 2006, 03:08:32 AM
Richard used to play guitar for Brittany Spears and N'sync...im sure he picked up Christina Aguileras "beautiful" song somewhere along the lines of the era....it sounded cool and i like how robin and him just jam out...reminds me of izzy/gilby and slash!

Those names along with covering any material have no place in hard rock.


Well the names don't have anything to do with hard rock but to take that song, play it on guitar, and make it sound a whole lot better and turn it into a great solo...that's hard rock to me


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: BLS-Pride on May 29, 2006, 03:08:47 AM
But "America The Beautiful" has?   :hihi:

 Seriously, I think you can turn many of the crappy popsongs of the last 20 years in wonderful rock versions. You just have to dig deep sometimes.

Yeah and Im pretty sure your refering to Zakk playin America the Beautiful and it being on the album. Which in this case it does cause BLS are an AMERICAN metal band. Plus it wasn't written for or by any teenie boppin waste of air.

Pop songs are just that and should stay that way.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: ClintroN on May 29, 2006, 03:49:15 AM
It's actually a very cool idea, they cover a song no one would expect them to and make it sound great.  So what's the problem?

spot on dude, it DOES sound great, i dig it :beer: :beer: :beer:

 :beer:


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: kockstar999 on May 29, 2006, 03:53:18 AM
i think its good... its a beautifull piece of music....  its better than that shite finck played in 02 before PC..


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: ClintroN on May 29, 2006, 04:05:47 AM
i think its good... its a beautifull piece of music....  its better than that shite finck played in 02 before PC..

u take that back, it rocked AND U KNOW IT!! >:( >:( >:(



Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: kockstar999 on May 29, 2006, 04:40:26 AM
i think its good... its a beautifull piece of music....? its better than that shite finck played in 02 before PC..

u take that back, it rocked AND U KNOW IT!! >:( >:( >:(



lol... i hated it... i absolutly hated it... worst shit ever.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Jizzo on May 29, 2006, 04:43:23 AM
is it possible that fortus played on that track?


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: axe on May 29, 2006, 04:45:58 AM
If Aguilera isn't tasting good, how about the classical music that Robin played before SCOM, a piece called Finlandia by Jean Sibelius?

(Yeah, I'm still trying to get it acknowledged because I seem to be the only one who noticed or knew the song! And people are adding all the jamesbrowns and don'tcrys and christinaaguileras on their setlists for the solo spots, but I don't see no Sibelius there anywhere for Robin's first solo. Do I have to start another annoying topic to get some fame for a fellow Finn here? You know, we DID win the Eurovision song contest, too!)


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Axlative on May 29, 2006, 04:57:32 AM
If Aguilera isn't tasting good, how about the classical music that Robin played before SCOM, a piece called Finlandia by Jean Sibelius?

(Yeah, I'm still trying to get it acknowledged because I seem to be the only one who noticed or knew the song! And people are adding all the jamesbrowns and don'tcrys and christinaaguileras on their setlists for the solo spots, but I don't see no Sibelius there anywhere for Robin's first solo. Do I have to start another annoying topic to get some fame for a fellow Finn here? You know, we DID win the Eurovision song contest, too!)

Robin played Finlandia? So cool.

Now the next step for GNR is to also drink Finlandia...  ;D


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on May 29, 2006, 04:57:43 AM
as someone would say


BEAUTIFUL IS NOT a song from Aguilera.

it's a cover.
thousands of artists covered it.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: elevendayempire on May 29, 2006, 05:41:32 AM
Richard used to play guitar for Brittany Spears and N'sync...im sure he picked up Christina Aguileras "beautiful" song somewhere along the lines of the era....it sounded cool and i like how robin and him just jam out...reminds me of izzy/gilby and slash!

Those names along with covering any material have no place in hard rock.
Yeah, it'd be terrible if they covered a song by a pop band like, say... Wings.

SG


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Alan on May 29, 2006, 06:15:24 AM
is it possible that fortus played on that track?

linda perry played guitar, bass and piano on it and also wrote and composed it for christina.


as someone would say


BEAUTIFUL IS NOT a song from Aguilera.

it's a cover.
thousands of artists covered it.

it's not a cover, as far as i can tell i've googled the lyrics and the only artist that comes up is christina, she didn't write the song as i mentioned above, but she seems to be the only artist to have recorded it.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Tomorrows on May 29, 2006, 06:16:24 AM
Whoa, welcome to two weeks ago.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: CAFC Nick on May 29, 2006, 06:18:36 AM
Richard used to play guitar for Brittany Spears and N'sync...im sure he picked up Christina Aguileras "beautiful" song somewhere along the lines of the era....it sounded cool and i like how robin and him just jam out...reminds me of izzy/gilby and slash!

Those names along with covering any material have no place in hard rock.
Yeah, it'd be terrible if they covered a song by a pop band like, say... Wings.

SG

Talking of wings...Bumblefoots guitar!  :o


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: domingo on May 29, 2006, 06:47:04 AM
So maybe in the next bootleg "Covering em vol.2" we wll have this wonderful song...


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: jimmythegent on May 29, 2006, 06:50:10 AM
its certainly an interesting choice and given it's Finck, i'm sure he's bring some arty, symbolic meaning to it  ;)


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: russtcb on May 29, 2006, 07:08:24 AM
Hi friends!!! i?ve been in the Madrid and Lisboa concerts and i wonder if anybody noticed that in the Richard Fortus/Robin Fink solo they play that Christina Aguilera?s song called "Beautiful"...Why? Good Lord! Why? hate that song!!! and what about Robin?s new look? he looked like a homeless or maybe Jesuschrist Superstar!!!!

I'm not her biggest fan but I really like the melody of that song. I think the way they play it together is really cool. I also think that it's cool that they play something like that just cuz they like it even though it could be viewed as "uncool".

As far as Robins look goes, I was always trying to defend him to stupid people because of his old look. In that respect I'm glad he changed it (for the stupid people). I personally could care less if he took the stage in a diaper as long as he played his heart out which he does so I'm happy!

 :beer:


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: jameslofton29 on May 29, 2006, 07:14:18 AM
As far as Robins look goes, I was always trying to defend him to stupid people because of his old look. In that respect I'm glad he changed it (for the stupid people).
 :beer:
Thats the worst post Ive ever seen here. People who dont like the goth look are stupid? You wouldnt like it either, but since Finck did it its the best thing since the invention of the wheel.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Pinball Wizard on May 29, 2006, 07:39:17 AM
People who says that it's lame that they are playing it are just some stupid closed minds people. I don't like Aguilera, I just HATE her!!!!!!! But I've got to admit: if she had always focus her carrer in songs like Beautiful, instead of shits like "Let's get dirty", she would be more respected, because that "Beautiful" song is indeed a good song...and isn't a shame to admit that!


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: .Seal on May 29, 2006, 07:48:13 AM
If Aguilera isn't tasting good, how about the classical music that Robin played before SCOM, a piece called Finlandia by Jean Sibelius?

(Yeah, I'm still trying to get it acknowledged because I seem to be the only one who noticed or knew the song! And people are adding all the jamesbrowns and don'tcrys and christinaaguileras on their setlists for the solo spots, but I don't see no Sibelius there anywhere for Robin's first solo. Do I have to start another annoying topic to get some fame for a fellow Finn here? You know, we DID win the Eurovision song contest, too!)

Robin played Finlandia? So cool.

Now the next step for GNR is to also drink Finlandia...  ;D
Omfg I need to hear that!  :D Damn now I just have to wish they play the whole Finlandia in Helsinki since its my fav song from classical music  ;D


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Bostonrose on May 29, 2006, 07:52:31 AM
You guys call yourselves GNR Fans  ???


Richard Fortus wrote that song.....


newbies ???


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: nesquick on May 29, 2006, 08:10:16 AM
That was THE highlight of the Rio show for me, with Paradise City.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: AxlsMainMan on May 29, 2006, 09:29:21 AM
Robin & Richard are simply electrifying each and every time they play this song.

You dont even need Christina singing the words since to me it sounds like their guitars are singing for them... :hihi:

I definately hope they keep playing it, or maybe throw in another cover here and there..maybe take off KOHD or L&LD since no one is a stranger to those two songs...

You just gotta love the chemistry between those two though...so thick you could cut it with a knife... :hihi:


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: LittleFly on May 29, 2006, 09:37:38 AM
Thankfully, I've never heard the Christina Aguilera version of this song, so I am not biased against it.  All I know is when those 2 play the song together, it moves me  :love:  It's possibly the most soulful thing I've ever experianced live.  ;D


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: estrangedpaul on May 29, 2006, 09:38:25 AM
You guys call yourselves GNR Fans? ???


Richard Fortus wrote that song.....


newbies ???

Nope Linda Perry wrote it.

http://www.ascap.com/playback/2003/fall/perry.html

Unless you can provide a source saying Richard wrote it, coz I can't find any page saying anything like that. On the Barnes & Noble it lists all the musicians who played on that album and no mention of Fortus, although Dave Navarro did.

It's a decent song and the guitar version is brilliant, but this is Guns N' Roses, once the most dangerous band in the world. What the hell has gone wrong in the last ten years?


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: russtcb on May 29, 2006, 10:16:51 AM
As far as Robins look goes, I was always trying to defend him to stupid people because of his old look. In that respect I'm glad he changed it (for the stupid people).
 :beer:
Thats the worst post Ive ever seen here. People who dont like the goth look are stupid? You wouldnt like it either, but since Finck did it its the best thing since the invention of the wheel.

Huh? I in no way said that people that don't like goth are stupid. What I said was that people that don't like how someone plays guitar based off their looks are stupid. I also in no way implied that I like goth at all. I like Robins playing.

Speaking of stupid posts......go ahead and read yours again.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: jameslofton29 on May 29, 2006, 10:27:05 AM
Huh? I in no way said that people that don't like goth are stupid. What I said was that people that don't like how someone plays guitar based off their looks are stupid. I also in no way implied that I like goth at all. I like Robins playing.

Speaking of stupid posts......go ahead and read yours again.
"As far as Robins look goes, I was always trying to defend him to stupid people because of his old look. In that respect I'm glad he changed it (for the stupid people)."

At what point did you mention playing instead of looks?


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: kockstar999 on May 29, 2006, 10:31:22 AM
Fink looks like old school Phil Anselmo, Jim Morrison, or Chris Robinson from the Crows ... oh but i guess thats a bunch of  pussies  huh?

fuck he rocks and he could kick your ass and fuck your mom if he wanted to...


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: AxlFink on May 29, 2006, 10:35:21 AM
i thought it was cool in NY.  Robin looks cool....people... stop bitching.  If there is so much to complain about.... i mean... every day there is a new thread complaining about something with gnr.... then dont be a gnr fan anymore.  its getting so lame.  it was a cool solo with them.  It's no different than making a chord melody with a jazz tune.... they both played some cool stuff in that solo.  it doesnt matter what song they picked... which isnt even a bad song in its original form.  I bet ya anything axl likes it.  Also, bumblefoot is doing the same thing they are doing only using Dont Cry.  I dont see how its any different.  Its kinda cool... instead of dumb pointless solos they are playing some cool chords with some melodic content.  Bumblefoots solo is shit until he gets to dont cry... its just pointless noise..  fink and fortus rock.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: russtcb on May 29, 2006, 10:50:38 AM
Huh? I in no way said that people that don't like goth are stupid. What I said was that people that don't like how someone plays guitar based off their looks are stupid. I also in no way implied that I like goth at all. I like Robins playing.

Speaking of stupid posts......go ahead and read yours again.
"As far as Robins look goes, I was always trying to defend him to stupid people because of his old look. In that respect I'm glad he changed it (for the stupid people)."

At what point did you mention playing instead of looks?

"I was always trying to defend him to stupid people because of his old look"

I was talking about defending his playing.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Luigi on May 29, 2006, 11:00:33 AM
That is one of the best dueling solos I have seen in person : ok:  If you have any musical feeling this wil defenitly give you goose bumps. I like Aguilera, she can sit on my lap any day. : ok:
 Guys this is the new G&R. If your expecting a 80's 90's GnR,  its not gonna happen. I expect everything and anything with AXL and Company to happen, that's exciting, thats creativity!
I'm ok with whats going on cause it new and fresh, this world needs Guns & Roses  Its time to look at them with an open mind. :yes:


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: deanaxlrose on May 29, 2006, 01:17:09 PM
whats next? Jinny in the bottle?Imagine axl sang that song with snake dance :rofl:


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: AXL 20 on May 29, 2006, 01:19:10 PM
i didnt know it was christina agulera. I doint listen to that music or lack there of. I liked the solo, if it sounds good why not like it? just because its really a pop song?


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Timmy on May 29, 2006, 01:21:32 PM
they rocked that song, now get the fuck over it


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Elrothiel on May 29, 2006, 01:36:02 PM
I have to say, as much as I hate all that contrived manufactured pop shit, I actually like that one song.

Christina Aguilera might be a contrived manufactured pop whore, but that one song is real, and I like it.

People shouldn't say "Oh noes! Gn'R played a CHRISTINA AGUILERA SONG!! They're turning POP!! NOOO!" because if they say that, it just proves what ignoramuses they really are.

Just because its a pop song doesn't mean that Guns N' Roses can't play it!! Hell, it doesn't even mean that fuckin' Morbid Angel or Deicide can't play it if they don't want to!!

Music is music.

What I'm trying to say is that it doesn't matter whether the original song was pop/trance/emo/classical/dance/whatever, if its a good song, and it'll sound good as a rock version, then there is NO REASON why a rock band shouldn't play it. They'll probably make it better.

So don't get pissed off that Gn'R played it. Be pleased! : ok:


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: NickNasty on May 29, 2006, 01:45:36 PM
i find thw whole thing rather creative and beautifully played...i imagine it came out of some jam session where they were just fucking around, the other guys thought it was funny and they put it into the set.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: DEAD HORSE on May 29, 2006, 01:53:55 PM
I dont like it

Ok, let say,  If Metallica would have played that song live, it would've been the WORST experience ever! but Gn'r played, everyone is HAPPY!  ::)

I love Gn'r but i dont like that shit!


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Skeba on May 29, 2006, 01:54:38 PM
I think the song's amazing. Both when GN'R cover it, and when Christina does it. Not really a big fan of her, but I think that song's excellent.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: gabble on May 29, 2006, 02:07:34 PM
Even though they didn't sing the song, I think "Beautiful" was played because of the lyrics.? I think Robin's guitar work imitated the vocals.? This song would be a great lead in to "Madagascar" as the lyrics share a similar theme.?

"Beautiful"

Don't look at me

Every day is so wonderful
Then suddenly, it's hard to breathe
Now and then, I get insecure
From all the pain, I'm so ashamed

I am beautiful no matter what they say
Words can't bring me down
I am beautiful in every single way
Yes, words can't bring me down
So don't you bring me down today

To all your friends, you're delirious
So consumed in all your doom
Trying hard to fill the emptiness
The pieces gone, left the puzzle undone
Is that the way it is

You are beautiful no matter what they say
Words can't bring you down
You are beautiful in every single way
Yes, words can't bring you down
Don't you bring me down today...

No matter what we do
(no matter what we do)
No matter what we say
(no matter what we say)
We're the song inside the tune
Full of beautiful mistakes

And everywhere we go
(everywhere we go)
The sun will always shine
(sun will always shine)
And tomorrow we might wake on the other side
All the other times

We are beautiful in every single way
Yes, words can't bring us down
We are beautiful in every single way
Yes, words can't bring us down
Don't you bring me down today

Don't you bring me down today
Don't you bring me down today

"Madagascar"

I won't be told anymore
That I've been brought down in this storm
And left so far out from the shore
That I can't find my way back, my way anymore

No I won't be told anymore
That I've been brought down in this storm
And left so far out from the shore
That I can't find my way back, my way anymore

No, I..I


Forgive that they tear down my soul
Bless them that they might grow old
Free them so that they may know
That it's never too late

For the many times that seemed like a memory
I searched and found the ways you used to lure me in
I found the ways,
For why it had to be
Mired in denial and so afraid

If we ever find it's true
That we have the strength to choose
Free the ball the chain
We held together

(Quotes)

I won't be told anymore
That I've been brought down in this storm
And left so far out from the shore
That I can't find my way back, my way anymore

No I won't be told anymore
That I've been brought down in this storm
And left so far out from the shore
That I can't find my way back, my way anymore
Oh, no


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: AmyRose on May 29, 2006, 02:10:11 PM
Robin Fink looks MUCH better now. he should keep that look.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Elrothiel on May 29, 2006, 02:11:15 PM
Robin Fink looks MUCH better now. he should keep that look.

Yea, he's rockin' the hippie Jesus look! :beer:


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: journey on May 29, 2006, 02:29:26 PM
I was thinking maybe Robin got the idea to play the "Beautiful" song, because people are always negatively commenting on how he dresses and his overall personality. Just a guess.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Eduardo on May 29, 2006, 02:41:07 PM
If it was an average unknown song people would be raving about it. Since it's a Christina Aguilera song people seem to forget the fact that it's a great piece of music


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: dr. light on May 29, 2006, 03:49:08 PM
i like christina aguilera too she has a great voice, but c?mon this is guns n roses and how the fuck anyone dare to compare slash and izzy or gilby (remember the jams in the ilusion tour?) to this wannabe rockstars that jams a christina aguilera song?

please give me a break


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: lennonisgod on May 29, 2006, 04:18:54 PM
Fink looks like old school Phil Anselmo, Jim Morrison, or Chris Robinson from the Crows ... oh but i guess thats a bunch of  pussies  huh?

fuck he rocks and he could kick your ass and fuck your mom if he wanted to...

Wow, talking shit about Jim Morrison??  You must really know your music. 


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Eduardo on May 29, 2006, 04:28:19 PM
(remember the jams in the ilusion tour?)



yes, and they were great.

However, that doesn't mean this one is not great, because it is. I said it, and I'll say it again. If it was a unknown pice, people would be saying its the best thing ever


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: gin hotel on May 29, 2006, 06:11:13 PM
irs starts off exactly the same as christina aguileras song fighter. scary


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: faldor on May 29, 2006, 06:25:13 PM
I thought the duet was great.  I heard about them doing that at one of the previous concerts and I didn't know quite what to make of it but after hearing it firsthand it's got my approval.  I personally would rather hear something like that than an original improvization.  That's just me though.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: dark n doom on May 29, 2006, 07:12:25 PM
Beautiful (Christina Aguilera) = Dear Prudence (The Beatles)


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Top-Hatted One on May 29, 2006, 07:52:38 PM
dont give Christina credit for that song. Linda Perry wrote it. I always liked Linda Perry and that song


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: erose on May 29, 2006, 09:19:51 PM
If Aguilera isn't tasting good, how about the classical music that Robin played before SCOM, a piece called Finlandia by Jean Sibelius?

(Yeah, I'm still trying to get it acknowledged because I seem to be the only one who noticed or knew the song! And people are adding all the jamesbrowns and don'tcrys and christinaaguileras on their setlists for the solo spots, but I don't see no Sibelius there anywhere for Robin's first solo. Do I have to start another annoying topic to get some fame for a fellow Finn here? You know, we DID win the Eurovision song contest, too!)

Robin played Finlandia? So cool.

Now the next step for GNR is to also drink Finlandia...? ;D
Omfg I need to hear that!? :D Damn now I just have to wish they play the whole Finlandia in Helsinki since its my fav song from classical music? ;D

acording to robin himself, he did play finlandia! How do i know, ask Graciela and Jarmo!  ;)


so look out for a real crowd pleaser in helsinki!!!


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: jsg2295 on May 30, 2006, 12:25:59 AM
The Beautiful song is no different than the Godfather solo. Different strokes for different folks.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: F*ck Fear on May 30, 2006, 12:31:18 AM
When I first heard that they had played that,I thought for sure I'd hate it. But turns out,it's not that bad really. Fortus makes it sound pretty good.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Evolution on May 30, 2006, 12:37:19 AM
Well down well with me  : ok:


It's cool to see a nod to a more modern song.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Voodoochild on May 30, 2006, 03:55:44 AM
Axl sang Bad Time by Grand Funk Railroad, a pop song. Nobody complained by that time...


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: NicoRourke on May 30, 2006, 04:00:11 AM
As far as Finck, his look is much better than the gothic freak look of 2002. He looks like a normal person now.

Except for those silly boots he likes to wear ;D

Man, he should just drop that ::)

Regarding "Beautifull", I just don't know what to think ... Man, an Aguilera song ...


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on May 30, 2006, 05:47:14 AM
If it wasn't by Aguilera, everyone would love it. They just don't want to admit it now because some whore is singing it..


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Schwarzgold on May 30, 2006, 05:59:59 AM
Except for those silly boots he likes to wear ;D

Man, he should just drop that ::)


Someone called that a "horse-rider look". I think that fits, and I dig it. Especially with his sunglasses on at the beginning of the show, he looked cool as fuck. And his strange moves add to that coolness.  8)

Indeed, regarding the fact that Robin apparantly changes his outfit completely every months constantly over the last few years, I'm rather sad that this new style will also be gone soon.  :no:


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: oldgunsfan on May 30, 2006, 12:49:27 PM
I dont understand why they play that song either. Maybe its some sort of inside joke or something, or Axl just likes it. Who knows?

:phone: Mysteron?? ? ? ?:hihi:


As far as Finck, his look is much better than the gothic freak look of 2002. He looks like a normal person now.

yeah, I think the whole band looks more like a rock band than the circus of freaks look they had back in 2002....as for beautiful...I dig the song and Aguilera's voice


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Death Cube K on May 30, 2006, 01:12:16 PM
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the circus of freaks look

I liked that look...especially Robin's...

Oh well..


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: RancidPunx on May 30, 2006, 01:35:56 PM
Who the hell cares how Robin looks? I don't care if he comes out with his ball bag hanging down, as long as he contributes to Gn'R. Back on topic, this isn't 1987 anymore. This band has earned the right to do whatever the hell they want, including playing "Beautiful"


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: kockstar999 on May 30, 2006, 01:47:37 PM
Beautiful (Christina Aguilera) = Dear Prudence (The Beatles)

i dont hear it...


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: ppbebe on May 30, 2006, 02:59:14 PM
I dont understand why they play that song either. Maybe its some sort of inside joke or something,
.......the gothic freak look.......

Tommy has said it's all about not being pigeonholed, refering to GNR.

Finlandia              early20th? classical
I feel good           50s? funk?
Ziggy stardust     70s   glum
Don't cry              90s   rock
Beautiful              early 21th pop

If it wasn't by Aguilera, everyone would love it. They just don't want to admit it now because some whore is singing it..

I think that's about it.
like "This .........'s  song is simply a masterpiece." "No? '*********' wrote it? Actually, it's mediocre."

People's fixed ideas amaze me. Just look through this thread there're so many of them. Musts.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: alexh0618 on May 30, 2006, 03:04:34 PM
I'll be honest, when I first heard that Richard and Robin did this song at Hammerstien, I was thinking WTF? But after hearing it for myself, I think they did a great job with this song. Even if people don't like it, they have to appreciate the amount of feeling R & R put into it.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: jameslofton29 on May 30, 2006, 03:39:53 PM
I dont understand why they play that song either. Maybe its some sort of inside joke or something,
.......the gothic freak look.......

Tommy has said it's all about not being pigeonholed, refering to GNR.

Finlandia? ? ? ? ? ? ? early20th? classical
I feel good? ? ? ? ? ?50s? funk?
Ziggy stardust? ? ?70s? ?glum
Don't cry? ? ? ? ? ? ? 90s? ?rock
Beautiful? ? ? ? ? ? ? early 21th pop
I think its a little more personal than that. I'm sure Axl didnt wake up and say,"Hey, I dont want us to be pigeonholed. Pick a solo from anyone you want so we are not pigeonholed". I think it goes a little deeper than that. Maybe Axl just likes the song. Maybe Axl had sex with her in the past and he is paying tribute to her. Also, someone mentioned Finck always liked her.

I understand what you mean about Stinson's comments, but I think he was referring to Chinese Democracy and the quality of the songs on the album, and the direction of the music.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: bumblerocks on May 30, 2006, 03:44:17 PM
I dont understand why they play that song either. Maybe its some sort of inside joke or something,
.......the gothic freak look.......

Tommy has said it's all about not being pigeonholed, refering to GNR.

Finlandia? ? ? ? ? ? ? early20th? classical
I feel good? ? ? ? ? ?50s? funk?
Ziggy stardust? ? ?70s? ?glum
Don't cry? ? ? ? ? ? ? 90s? ?rock
Beautiful? ? ? ? ? ? ? early 21th pop
I think its a little more personal than that. I'm sure Axl didnt wake up and say,"Hey, I dont want us to be pigeonholed. Pick a solo from anyone you want so we are not pigeonholed". I think it goes a little deeper than that. Maybe Axl just likes the song. Maybe Axl had sex with her in the past and he is paying tribute to her. Also, someone mentioned Finck always liked her.

I understand what you mean about Stinson's comments, but I think he was referring to Chinese Democracy and the quality of the songs on the album, and the direction of the music.

why is it so damn difficult for you to just accept his comments without burying them with conspiracies and bullshit?


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: jameslofton29 on May 30, 2006, 03:51:24 PM
why is it so damn difficult for you to just accept his comments without burying them with conspiracies and bullshit?
Why is it so difficult for you to not jump on every post I make? I wasn't "burying them with conspiracies and bullshit". Thats what YOU choose to see in the comments. If you have nothing intelligent to say when responding to me, then don't even bother.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: moreblack on May 30, 2006, 03:59:45 PM
a good song is a good song.

Beautiful is a good song.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: 25 on May 30, 2006, 04:10:36 PM
conspiracies and bullshit
You have had tendancies in the past  :hihi: I seem to recall in 2002 you had some hilarious ideas about CD not existing and Axl scamming us all  :rofl:


On the topic of Beautiful, it makes for a great  duet between the two guitarists. The "why" is irrelevant when the "what" is so good. 


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: uncleslashbob on May 30, 2006, 04:11:17 PM
it sounded good, i didn't even know it was her it sounded good!!and people say whats a hard rock band playing a CA song,and i say what the difference between beautiful and a hard rock playing a song like patience it sounded good thats all that matters.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: jameslofton29 on May 30, 2006, 04:15:12 PM
conspiracies and bullshit
You have had tendancies in the past? :hihi: I seem to recall in 2002 you had some hilarious ideas about CD not existing and Axl scamming us all? :rofl:
you remember that? Those were some great theories weren't they? :hihi: Until the album is released, no one can disprove any of the points I made in concern to that. :smoking:


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: 25 on May 30, 2006, 04:26:13 PM
you remember that? Those were some great theories weren't they? :hihi: Until the album is released, no one can disprove any of the points I made in concern to that. :smoking:
I remember it like it was yesterday  :hihi:  Luckily, the four-year gap has probably rescued your credibility because by the time the album is released no-one will remember who said what. Hell, when we have the cd in our hands we'll probably forget our own names. They're going to need crisis centers at record stores to deal with the GNR fans going into shock and having seizures, still clutching our copies of the album.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: russtcb on May 30, 2006, 04:27:10 PM
The Beautiful song is no different than the Godfather solo. Different strokes for different folks.

You know I actually thought that same thing yesterday. Whereas Slash might love the Godfather theme, these guys might just love playing this tune. I personally think it sounds great.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: ppbebe on May 30, 2006, 04:31:16 PM
I dont understand why they play that song either. Maybe its some sort of inside joke or something,
.......the gothic freak look.......

Tommy has said it's all about not being pigeonholed, refering to GNR.

Finlandia              early20th? classical
I feel good           50s? funk?
Ziggy stardust     70s   glum
Don't cry              90s   rock
Beautiful              early 21th pop
I think its a little more personal than that. I'm sure Axl didnt wake up and say,"Hey, I dont want us to be pigeonholed. Pick a solo from anyone you want so we are not pigeonholed". I think it goes a little deeper than that.

Maybe Axl just likes the song. Maybe Axl had sex with her in the past and he is paying tribute to her. Also, someone mentioned Finck always liked her.
how deep are these?

I understand what you mean about Stinson's comments, but I think he was referring to Chinese Democracy and the quality of the songs on the album, and the direction of the music.

I didn't say Axl suddenly got the idea and told them to do this and that.
I'm pretty sure Tommy was referring to the band and the whole project.
It's all natural that in the band that doesn't want to be pigeonholed, each member is open minded.
I'd imagine solos were done by band consensus and they played what they like.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: jameslofton29 on May 30, 2006, 04:42:14 PM
I remember it like it was yesterday? :hihi:? Luckily, the four-year gap has probably rescued your credibility because by the time the album is released no-one will remember who said what. Hell, when we have the cd in our hands we'll probably forget our own names. They're going to need crisis centers at record stores to deal with the GNR fans going into shock and having seizures, still clutching our copies of the album.
That did nothing to hurt my "credibility". All points I made were valid, and no one could disprove what I said, or even debate the issue in an intelligent way. They could find no facts to back up their insults, so they moved on to an easier topic to debate. It wasn't even as far back as 2002. It was late 2004/early 2005 I think.
how deep are these?
I dont consider 'I Feel Good' to be "deep". Like I said, its probably just songs that have some special meaning to Axl or some of the band members.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: oldgunsfan on May 30, 2006, 04:49:12 PM
conspiracies and bullshit
You have had tendancies in the past? :hihi: I seem to recall in 2002 you had some hilarious ideas about CD not existing and Axl scamming us all? :rofl:
you remember that? Those were some great theories weren't they? :hihi: Until the album is released, no one can disprove any of the points I made in concern to that. :smoking:

funny theory :hihi:  CD is a myth excepth they've done about 9 songs in various stages of completion....some better than others :hihi:


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: oldgunsfan on May 30, 2006, 04:53:21 PM
a good song is a good song.

Beautiful is a good song.

actually the whole CD that beautiful came from is a good fucking listen ::)
sure i call her Christine Skankuliara but that doesn't take away from the fact she's got a great fucking voice.....
she even wrote or co-wrote about 3/4 of the 18-19 songs on the album


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: jameslofton29 on May 30, 2006, 04:57:41 PM
funny theory :hihi:? CD is a myth excepth they've done about 9 songs in various stages of completion....some better than others :hihi:
A few studio sessions can create a few demos. Like I said, my points made way back then are still valid. But we are way off topic. If you two are interested in another round of 'CD is a myth', maybe you should start another thread about it.
I'm not saying I still believe it doesn't exist, but until the album is in everyone's hands it still remains a possibility. Most recent person to question its existence is Kurt Loder. :o


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: oldgunsfan on May 30, 2006, 05:00:15 PM
you remember that? Those were some great theories weren't they? :hihi: Until the album is released, no one can disprove any of the points I made in concern to that. :smoking:
I remember it like it was yesterday? :hihi:? Luckily, the four-year gap has probably rescued your credibility because by the time the album is released no-one will remember who said what. Hell, when we have the cd in our hands we'll probably forget our own names. They're going to need crisis centers at record stores to deal with the GNR fans going into shock and having seizures, still clutching our copies of the album.

I'll make sure to have a cardiologist and EMT team on standby when i go to the record store to buy my copy ;D


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Verse Chorus Verse on May 30, 2006, 05:03:37 PM
Maybe they played it just to have fun. God forbid they should do anything along those lines, right?


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: St_Jimmyuk on May 30, 2006, 05:16:19 PM
i thought it was brillient, didn't one of them have something to do with guitar in a christina song before? in the past?

anyway it sounded great


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: ClintroN on May 30, 2006, 05:39:14 PM
i cant beleive how a simple thread entitled Christina Aguilera can turn into bitchin' n' bullshit from some of u guys!!

shut the fuck up : ok:

the BEAUTIFUL rendition is great, enough said!! :drool: :drool:

lotsa feel n' emotion, a shit song turned great!!



Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: ClintroN on May 30, 2006, 05:47:02 PM
I love your new self Robin, but go the skullet again just to piss off these JUDGE MENTAL arseholes around here!!!

before these shows, so many of you hated Finck based off his appearance,  now its a whole new story!!

The man is a great/cool person n' GREAT player, n' (some) of u fuckers, its all about show!!!



Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: directionality on June 05, 2006, 02:47:36 AM
Linda Perry is an amazingly creative singer/songwriter, and if she were to be involved with Guns N' Roses in any way other than the cover of "Beautiful" I'd be even more excited to hear the new album.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Locomotive98 on June 05, 2006, 03:16:52 AM
I have to say, as much as I hate all that contrived manufactured pop shit, I actually like that one song.

Christina Aguilera might be a contrived manufactured pop whore, but that one song is real, and I like it.

People shouldn't say "Oh noes! Gn'R played a CHRISTINA AGUILERA SONG!! They're turning POP!! NOOO!" because if they say that, it just proves what ignoramuses they really are.

Just because its a pop song doesn't mean that Guns N' Roses can't play it!! Hell, it doesn't even mean that fuckin' Morbid Angel or Deicide can't play it if they don't want to!!

Music is music.

What I'm trying to say is that it doesn't matter whether the original song was pop/trance/emo/classical/dance/whatever, if its a good song, and it'll sound good as a rock version, then there is NO REASON why a rock band shouldn't play it. They'll probably make it better.

So don't get pissed off that Gn'R played it. Be pleased! : ok:

Would love to hear Deicide cover it!!! CLASSIC!


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: crofty on June 05, 2006, 07:04:40 AM
Richard and Robin playing that song was one of the best parts at Rio IMO. I hate the original song but they made it orgasmic.

Yes, I said orgasmic.

Yup I saw the vid of that last night. I nearly had to go knock one out afterwards.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Jimmy? on June 05, 2006, 07:09:41 AM
Richard and Robin playing that song was one of the best parts at Rio IMO. I hate the original song but they made it orgasmic.

Yes, I said orgasmic.

Yup I saw the vid of that last night. I nearly had to go knock one out afterwards.

 :rofl: i liked it but not that much  :hihi:


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: SADIS on June 05, 2006, 07:36:11 AM
Linda Perry is an amazingly creative singer/songwriter, and if she were to be involved with Guns N' Roses in any way other than the cover of "Beautiful" I'd be even more excited to hear the new album.

Man, that would be fucking amazing! Linda Perry is one of the best songwriters in this universe and her working with Axl would be 2 of my alltime favorites together. She wrote Beautiful as her comeback hit but then producing other artists took off and well, Christina got to sing this song.

I remember when VR were just "the project" and looking for a singer and they played a few shows with CF with Linda singing; I so hoped she was gonna be the lead singer.  :drool: But anyway Linda is amazing and has a powerfull voice just as Axl so she could write him some crazy shit.

And check out After Hours or In Flight by Linda Perry they are amazing albums!


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: grover on June 05, 2006, 09:11:07 AM
Again, this is an example of the complainers not thinking back to what old GNR did in the past, and thus making a fool of themselves.   

GNR (any lineup) playing a song like this is not that unusual, be it a brief snippet, a guitar solo, or a cover. 

During the Mosters of Rock tour with Metallica and Faith No More in 92/93, for many of the dates, Axl would actually open up one of the songs (SCOM, I think), by singing the chorus of "The One" by Elton John.  I remember, the first time I heard this, I was like WTF?????

Additionally, have any of you heard the original song "Since I Don't Have You" that they covered for TSI album and even put out a video for on MTV???   I mean, that is FAR from what you would expect from "the most dangerous band in the universe."

The point is, while we all may concentrate on ONE style of music, great musicians ( I would put Axl and Finck into that category) can see beyond simply WHO sings a song, and see a GREAT song for what it is - excellent music.  I have often times thought that there are pop songs I hear that I think suck by the artist, but if GNR had the chance to take that song and make it theirs, it would be AWESOME.  That is in the same point of how MUZAK can take a GNR song like SCOM or NR, and turn it into elevator music, and it will suck.

Long story short, I agree that "Beautiful" is GREAT music, and hearing these two make it into a guitar duet is AWESOME!!!!



Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Elrothiel on June 05, 2006, 09:26:29 AM
Damn Grover! That's a great post! You're totally correct! :beer:

I would applaud you with karma, but seeing as we can't do that here, I'll just do it in post form

*applauds Grover with +1 karma!*


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: The Estranged MrFlashbax on June 05, 2006, 09:42:32 AM
maybe they played beautiful because gnr's image is beautiful no matter what the haters say  :hihi:


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: //JK75 on June 05, 2006, 10:26:10 AM
i like christina aguilera too she has a great voice, but c?mon this is guns n roses and how the fuck anyone dare to compare slash and izzy or gilby (remember the jams in the ilusion tour?) to this wannabe rockstars that jams a christina aguilera song?

please give me a break

Totally agree with you... GNR is a hard rock band... covering a pop song like Cristina Aguilera instead of doing some Rolling Stones, Zeppelin or something like that, just don't fit Guns.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: russtcb on June 05, 2006, 10:28:10 AM
Again, this is an example of the complainers not thinking back to what old GNR did in the past, and thus making a fool of themselves.   

GNR (any lineup) playing a song like this is not that unusual, be it a brief snippet, a guitar solo, or a cover. 

During the Mosters of Rock tour with Metallica and Faith No More in 92/93, for many of the dates, Axl would actually open up one of the songs (SCOM, I think), by singing the chorus of "The One" by Elton John.  I remember, the first time I heard this, I was like WTF?????

Additionally, have any of you heard the original song "Since I Don't Have You" that they covered for TSI album and even put out a video for on MTV???   I mean, that is FAR from what you would expect from "the most dangerous band in the universe."

The point is, while we all may concentrate on ONE style of music, great musicians ( I would put Axl and Finck into that category) can see beyond simply WHO sings a song, and see a GREAT song for what it is - excellent music.  I have often times thought that there are pop songs I hear that I think suck by the artist, but if GNR had the chance to take that song and make it theirs, it would be AWESOME.  That is in the same point of how MUZAK can take a GNR song like SCOM or NR, and turn it into elevator music, and it will suck.

Long story short, I agree that "Beautiful" is GREAT music, and hearing these two make it into a guitar duet is AWESOME!!!!



Well said. The other intros used for SCOM were hardly songs you would think GNR would use as well.

In my opinion the more music you appriciate, the more alive you are.

Isn't there some quote in TSI liner notes like "Great music can be found anywhere"?


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: //JK75 on June 05, 2006, 10:33:24 AM
I just hope next step won't be a 50 cent cover  :hihi:


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: russtcb on June 05, 2006, 10:40:15 AM
I just hope next step won't be a 50 cent cover  :hihi:

They could easliy throw it into Rocket Queen where the "Tastes Good, Don't It" stuff used to go!

 :o


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: sic. on June 05, 2006, 10:46:42 AM
Finlandia              early20th? classical
I feel good           50s? funk?
Ziggy stardust     70s   glum
Don't cry              90s   rock
Beautiful              early 21th pop

1899-1900, to be exact. A very significant and personal piece of music to the Finns, can't wait to hear Robin do it in Helsinki.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: RitzWalker8 on June 05, 2006, 10:52:52 AM
This topic is stupid.  Rock fans are so insecure.  Who cares . . . .


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: IndiannaRose on June 05, 2006, 10:53:20 AM
i like christina aguilera too she has a great voice, but c?mon this is guns n roses and how the fuck anyone dare to compare slash and izzy or gilby (remember the jams in the ilusion tour?) to this wannabe rockstars that jams a christina aguilera song?

please give me a break

Totally agree with you... GNR is a hard rock band... covering a pop song like Cristina Aguilera instead of doing some Rolling Stones, Zeppelin or something like that, just don't fit Guns.
Don't be close-minded/biased.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: ppbebe on June 05, 2006, 11:44:32 AM
i like christina aguilera too she has a great voice, but c?mon this is guns n roses and how the fuck anyone dare to compare slash and izzy or gilby (remember the jams in the ilusion tour?) to this wannabe rockstars that jams a christina aguilera song?

please give me a break

Totally agree with you... GNR is a hard rock band... covering a pop song like Cristina Aguilera instead of doing some Rolling Stones, Zeppelin or something like that, just don't fit Guns.
Don't be close-minded/biased.

Some people just don't know what they are talking about.
 :hihi: Zep made songs inspired by James Brown and reggae as well as by arabic  music, celtic folk etc.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: gnrbr on June 05, 2006, 11:47:52 AM
i dont like cristina aguilera, i dont like her songs and i hated when guns played ure beautiful :rant:

thats it, peace u all :peace: :beer:


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Budweiser Froggs on June 05, 2006, 11:52:51 AM
i dont see why people hate this just because it's a different genre.  if the rolling stones sang beautiful everyone would love it, but just because its christina aguilara you dont?


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: younggunner on June 05, 2006, 11:53:07 AM
Whats worse...playing Beautiful at concerts to kill time or writing a song about Paris Hilton an putting it on your debut album?


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: russtcb on June 05, 2006, 11:59:19 AM
Whats worse...playing Beautiful at concerts to kill time or writing a song about Paris Hilton an putting it on your debut album?

Oh jesus....who did that?


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: younggunner on June 05, 2006, 12:01:32 PM
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Oh jesus....who did that?
the most sleazy, dangerous in yo face band in the world...Armani Revolver


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: russtcb on June 05, 2006, 12:02:24 PM
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Oh jesus....who did that?
the most sleazy, dangerous in yo face band in the world...Armani Revolver

Never heard of 'em. Either way, what a dumb move.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: younggunner on June 05, 2006, 12:05:43 PM
lol i think you have...their street name is velvet revolver...ull hear them soon though im sure pharrell gave them a nice summertime beat for their next single


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: russtcb on June 05, 2006, 12:07:44 PM
lol i think you have...their street name is velvet revolver...ull hear them soon though im sure pharrell gave them a nice summertime beat for their next single

Oh. I'm dumb and missed the joke. Is there really a song on Contraband about Paris Hilton?? Is that another joke I missed or is that serious??!!


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: SADIS on June 05, 2006, 12:39:05 PM
Whats worse...playing Beautiful at concerts to kill time or writing a song about Paris Hilton an putting it on your debut album?

Dude, there were 6 pages without a Vr vs GNR debate and you have to drag them into this without any reason. You really think that everyone hating on GnR for covering Beautiful is loving VR? You're just seeking a stage to show you're anti-VR attitude. Knock it off, no reason for doing that in THIS topic.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: younggunner on June 05, 2006, 01:01:21 PM
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Is there really a song on Contraband about Paris Hilton??
Dirty Little Thing

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Dude, there were 6 pages without a Vr vs GNR debate and you have to drag them into this without any reason. You really think that everyone hating on GnR for covering Beautiful is loving VR? You're just seeking a stage to show you're anti-VR attitude. Knock it off, no reason for doing that in THIS topic.
Im not trying to drag this into another VR/Gnr debate. ALl Im saying is that there are a zillion whiners on this board who look at every single thing this band does and analyzes it.

Can you imagine if GNr asked some1 like Pharrel to come in and help produce a song or 2 for the album? There would be thread upon thread of how Axl is a wigga wanna be whos selling out cause he cant write his own chart topping song....

As for what they play at concerts...same thing..old gnr use to play whatevr they wanted. Its the spirit of GNr. do whatever u want. That has not died with this band. And concert by concert day by day they are proving that to me. You may not liek them doing something like that but tough luck. They dont care about what you think...and thats rock n roll...

the only gripe any1 should have with this band so far are 2 things....the album and the same setlists. Thats it. the late starts,solos, and anything and everything else some people complain about here is bullshit....

if the album is not out this fall and the setlists dont change when the album is out to where they are playing mostly CD with some hits then I, myself will be pissed and give up. But for now Im enjoying this band correct some 02 mistakes and putting on some great shows

will every show be perfect hell no. Its impossible for every show to be perfect. Its just not gonna happen. But the bitching and crying around here over the past few months is pathetic....


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Locomotive98 on June 05, 2006, 01:21:32 PM
Why does everyone slate Velvet revolver? If it wasnt for 3/5ths of that band half of you haters would still be on the Korn board whining about something else.

All this 'Oh Bumblefoot rules more than Slash' crap - have you heard yourselves?!!! The guy has only been in the band for 4 weeks and already you say hes far better than the greatest rock icon of a generation - Mr Slash.

Wise up.

Anyhoo, back to the 'Beautiful' solo. Are you rushing out now to buy Aguilera's cds? Thought not - cant be that fucking great can it.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Skeba on June 05, 2006, 02:54:14 PM
Okay.. Everyone who feels like they need to start a GN'R/VR comparison in this thread. Don't.

Anyhoo, back to the 'Beautiful' solo. Are you rushing out now to buy Aguilera's cds? Thought not - cant be that fucking great can it.

No, but I never buy albums because of just one song. I really wasn't all that impressed with the other material. It's not that she can't sing, but I just don't like the music. But it's a good song. And covering it with 2 guitars sounds great.


And I'm really glad that the solos that everyone's been doing are varied. It's great. And for them to go out and do all these different styles of music in these brief moments. It's not away from anyone. There are amazing melodies in all categories of music. The way they're presented isn't always to my taste in the original compositions, but can be turned into something great with a guitar or two. These things of course are just a matter of taste. But whether I like it or not, I'm not going to go tell anyone how they should play _their_ solos. It's none of my business. I wasn't a huge fan of Bucketheads solos, and I didn't feel that some of the songs fit the show well. But it was his time there, and that's what he wanted to do with it.

Some of you may not like the song, but to not like it just because the origal performer is Christina Aguilera, is not one of the best arguments I've heard.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: oldgunsfan on June 05, 2006, 03:51:54 PM
I bought the CD from Columbia House as it was a throw-in for postage :hihi:
but the only reason I did was it got great reviews and saw that she wrote most of it....

I was pleasantly surprised....really good album and that chick has a voice

so what she's a skank :hihi:    nobody's perfect


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Alan on June 05, 2006, 04:00:51 PM
Anyhoo, back to the 'Beautiful' solo. Are you rushing out now to buy Aguilera's cds? Thought not - cant be that fucking great can it.

i already have them, and from what i've heard so far from the new one i will be getting it on it's release.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: directionality on June 05, 2006, 08:07:49 PM

Anyhoo, back to the 'Beautiful' solo. Are you rushing out now to buy Aguilera's cds? Thought not - cant be that fucking great can it.


Who cares who made it if it's a good song? It has a catchy melody, thoughtful lyrics, and people can relate to it.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: SADIS on June 06, 2006, 02:51:24 PM
Check this: Linda Perry, who wrote Beautiful performing with VR. They do the song Whole Lotta Love by Zeppelin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jpl76Hbeu8&search=linda%20perry


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: pebbles on June 06, 2006, 08:53:22 PM
i think its a great song, loved it when she did it and i guess it was good when they did it, not heard it yet. :'(


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: //JK75 on June 06, 2006, 10:25:09 PM
i like christina aguilera too she has a great voice, but c?mon this is guns n roses and how the fuck anyone dare to compare slash and izzy or gilby (remember the jams in the ilusion tour?) to this wannabe rockstars that jams a christina aguilera song?

please give me a break

Totally agree with you... GNR is a hard rock band... covering a pop song like Cristina Aguilera instead of doing some Rolling Stones, Zeppelin or something like that, just don't fit Guns.
Don't be close-minded/biased.

Some people just don't know what they are talking about.
 :hihi: Zep made songs inspired by James Brown and reggae as well as by arabic? music, celtic folk etc.

I would never compare James Brown or serious reggae artists with Cristina Aguilera... maybe Britney Spears...? :hihi:

Some of us dont know what are we talking about and some other would always justify everything the new band do no matter what... tomorrow they could cover a reggaeton song and it will be great to you.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Fusion on June 07, 2006, 12:37:01 AM
If it wasn't by Aguilera, everyone would love it. They just don't want to admit it now because some whore is singing it..

Everyone?  I hate that song, and this is a guy who isn't ashamed to admit he kind of likes Oops I Did It Again!!!  :yes:  It's pretty catchy.

Never liked Beautiful.  Don't like it as a GN'R solo.  The old solos were much better.  And it's not just because Slash did them.  They were just better.  It might have something to do with the fact that they were all classic and timeless songs, unlike Beautiful which will never be either of those.


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: gnrkid03 on June 07, 2006, 12:40:29 AM
Wait wait wait... lets backtrack here.... Dirty Little Thing was about Paris Hilton!?


Title: Re: Chistina Aguilera?
Post by: Albert S Miller on June 07, 2006, 09:18:43 AM
Hey I was in Lisbon with my family, my 14yr old daughter kept telling me that they were playing that, and I kept saying "no".  So now the truth be known!!!