Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Obviously Chris Pittman and Dizzy Reed have gotten sick of being bored at GnR gigs so they've been given a few more parts. Unfortunately! Keyboards do not work on Sweet Child but as far as I can remember they were there last night in all of their non-glory. I think they were on a copule of other Appetite songs as well. Unfortunately keyboards do not work on AFD songs

The most annoying thing was on the new songs. If he wanted to give Reed and Pittman something to do he could have played Madagascar and TWAT. But the keyboards destroyed Better. That was the most amazing performance of the night until midway through they started playing keyboards way too hgh in the mix. As for IRS, that's supposed to be a heavy rocker, but it sounded more haunting last night and seemed to be copying Friends by Led Zeppelin. That kinda arrangement worked on Friends but not IRS.

They did what they always do... the problem was the mix.

the keyboard/synth party were there in 2002 as well. even on songs like it`s so easy. the mix just sucked yesterday. that?s the reason why those parts were way too loud and destroyed some songs...

Paradise City is on AFD and it has keys on it.

Seriously, what was that all about? The keyboards on SCOM sucked!

if you didn't like the show  leave,   cause everyone else thought it was great  :rofl:

yeah they fuckin' ruined SCOM.. i don't even understand why the fuck pitman is in the band

"Duuuuuuude, why are you being suck a diiiick?"

You have some serious comprehension problem.
Please, do quote (or copy and paste) the part where I said I didn't like the show.

To My understandings Pitman puts synth effects and such. he did great job on the oldies. And that swallowing a bowlful of spaghetti kind of noise on better.

I really liked Dizzy's solo before the blues and that jazzy piece with axl before I feel good.

two keyboards and axl plays the main piano song they have... makes no sense

Theyve always played that much its just they were never as apparent in the mix as last night.

Dizzy plays a mean set of bongos.

bullshit, as told a million times before, the problem was in the mix, not in the guys

yeah, Appetite has held up pretty well in the last 19 years just fine without synth and bongo drums

im sure they fit in great with the new material, but if they're to continue with "AFD rehash" (to quote my friend Mr Lofton  ;)), lets leave this shit out

it only serves to add to the Kareoke flavour

yeah the keyboards make it sound like a karaoke or ringtone..

too right - especially on the 'rehash'

Adding keyboards and such to the Classic Gn'R tunes that didn't already include them is fucking lame... It made the Appetite songs weaker in 2002 and I am sure it is even worse now....

Yeah, Mr. Brownstone was ruined too.  Over-production to the max.  Can't wait for Chinese Democracy...   :-\

Axl just likes to try new stuff.

This ain't a critisicm, on the contrary - I praise him for it, but "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". The AFD songs should NOT be changed.

i found the only problem with what pitman did was that it was too loud from what i can make out Dizzy does keyboard (and bongos) pitman does all the technical whizzy and orchestral background effects whick when mixed right sound good too loud and yes its too much like on the end of IRS now if we wanted to hear GNR as it was dig out the old boots listen to them, what is played is GNR now with the new people Pitman included and the songs have a litle bit of extra effects fucking wow so what they still sond great but have that little extra something we never used to hear and im glad of it, it refreshens the songs

I'm confused.  What are you trying to say, exactly?   :beer:

Mix aside, I understand Pittman's role in the band, but it still seems that he has an awful lot of downtime during the shows, and swaying back and forth with that keyboard looks a bit silly.  Just my opinion, of course, and I definitely like what he brings to the new material...

They had two people playing keyboards during the Illusion tour.  What about the huge fucking band they had back then and with backup singers???  Dizzy and Teddy Zigzag on Keyboards, trumpet players, backup singers, etc.  I don't think it's half as bad as that was.  The synth usually isn't so bad, but like other people said, the broadcast mix sucked.  I'll take a keyboard and a synth anyday over the bloated fucking band they had for a leg of the Illusion tour.

yeah its a good thing we don't hear them on most nights. I was shocked when I heard keys on its so easy ITS SO FUCKIN EASY!!!! a hard-hitting 2:30min rock song!

I could barely even notice keyboard effects at the Hammerstein shows.  They were there, but they supplemented the songs and didn't overtake or detract.  At RIR the sound feed was horrible and the keyboards were drowning out other instruments

I never get some peoples allergy to keyboards n synthe. They'd hate zeppelin to death. ::)


that nasty mix on what we heard via Aol is not Chris's fault, is it?
Otherwise I totally agree.
the latin feel from the bongos and the baroque piano-ish sounds added to the old songs are refreshing.

I mean that we heard wrong source of the sound, actually AOL fucked everything up. the people at the show heard perfect sound but in the broadcast there was just stage monitor mix.

read more here http://www.chinesedemocracy.com/viewtopic.php?t=14246

I got that.? It was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, considering how big and bold (literally) your comment was...

Dizzy has been a waste of a paycheck since the illusion days and chris is even worse. The keys and syns make it sound like fucking bon jovi. If you're gonna have 2 of them then do songs like breakdown, civil war and estranged. Axl could utilize everyone in the band with better song selections. God knows they've had 10 yrs to get to know them.