Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Web site: http://rockinrio-lisboa.sapo.pt/

GN'R on stage 23:45

Ticket sales for Rock in Rio-Lisboa will start next Tuesday, the 21st of February, in the lobbies of Millennium BCP, FNAC Stores and FNAC Service and via SAPO online, through the official site of the event.

Day tickets: 53 euros
Two-day packages: 90 euros.


Board members attending the show: axl8302, Bigphil1, chas, Christos (AG), Cristina, erose, Evil Ash, Festah_GT, grabaraxl, Graciela, Gunnershome, HelioGnr, jarmo, Journeyman, just_one, Kiki, Leontien, MeanBone, msaxl43, Mustapha, Reckless Rose, shotgun_blue, snakepipero, Some1, starz?

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Pre-show party:

May 26th - GN'R convention @
Hard Rock Cafe Lisbon [www (http://www.hardrock.com/locations/cafes/cafes.aspx?lc=LISB)]? [map (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?lat=38.7163&lon=-9.1427&scale=10000&icon=x)]
with Kidnap (http://www.kidnaprocks.com/) playing.

Address: Avenida da Liberdade n?2.

Bus:
-Arriving and departing from Praca dos Restauradores ? N?: 31, 36, 39, 59, 92
-Passing thru Praca dos Restauradores - N?: 1, 2, 9, 11, 32, 44, 45, 46, 90
-From the Airport passing thru Praca dos Restauradores ? N?: 90

Metro: Restauradores (Linha Azul)

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=1621


/jarmo

http://rockinrio-lisboa.sapo.pt/artigo.html?id=644722&lang=pt

 :beer:

EU VOU  : ok:

EU TB VOU  : ok:

translation : im going  : ok: it will be without any doubt the greatest concert i will ever witness

man what a great 3 months i have waiting for me :D

april -> i?m going to london to see wwe raw and smackdown live
may -> GUNS N FUCKIN ROSES!!!!!!
june -> another great concert ..... wembley stadium bon jovi

this is fucking great, i'm defenetly going!!

Are you excited now Jarmo? :hihi: and please don't give me that, i'll believe it when i see it comments... :nervous:


 :peace: :peace: :peace:

I just bought 6 tickets for some of my friends and me
We're coming from Holland.
Last time we were also there, maybe we can arrange another meeting in the hardrockcafe again.
Please try to organize it for friday May 26th so we also can be there.

Anyone in Lisbon who can arrange that?

Tickets just went on sale -
http://rockinrio-lisboa.sapo.pt/bilheteira.html?lang=en

I can't believe this section of the board is open again. This is so sweet! Anyone know if there are any plans to carry RIR on Pay Per View in America? I hope so. For those of you going to the show.....Have a good time!!

http://rockinrio-lisboa.sapo.pt/artigo.html?id=636976&lang=en


So I guess that means at the very least there will be a webcast and an XM simulcast for the concert.

Okay! Just a question. How big can the audience be on the main stage?
I know Rio takes alot, but how is it in Lisbon?

Nyz

100 000

that would be cool, i think i met you last time...me and mate, we were the english ones! the only ones!

I think so too!
So i guess that means you both are coming again?

Yes indeed we met on the festival in 2004 and went to the hardrockcafe were we played the ritz 88 on dvd...fucking awsome!! iam 1 off kikis friends were going! and not 6 but 7 tickets.and Axl if you're reading this ,:please hold the band togetter now...otherwise we will come to your house and have the party overthere.not gonna go to rir 5 again for a NO show.but you new songs are very good and we love to hear the rest of 26!!(cant believe this so FXXXX great!!) songs. hope to met all you fans on the field or in the hardrockcafe...you can see me in a t-shirt from the rainbow bar en grill hollywood. :beer:

I want to go, but noone of my friends like GN'R as much as I do, and I doubt they will pay to go to Lisbon... :(

Same here

Last time in 2004 I spent two weeks in Lisbon alone but I haven't decided yet If I should go this time, I've been thinking of doing only a "day" trip, fly in, see guns and fly back, that would cost about 450 ? (flights and festival ticket) + 50/100 ? for eating and drinking.

don't know

I wont manage anyone coming with me but I'd love to go. Would be great If anyone is in the same position coming from London? maybe we can sort something out.

When you come alone we will wait you up so that its a lot  nicer to come,then when you come alone.

Where staying in the hardrockcafe till we go to the festival so maybe we can meet there....taxis/caps are very cheap in lissabon/lisboa....for 8 euros from the cafe to the playgarden ;D ....last time we met alot of different fans from all around the world there.so when no ones wants to come with you,still come and we will make it happen overthere! greatinx from holland.

Great news to hear GnR are touring again, fat fucking chance for me to get over to Lisbon though, I'd love to, but money and parents will be in the way. Hopefully Axl hits up a few more spots in Europe in the coming months, i.e Dublin, I'll be there, first row in that case. But yeah good luck to GnR for RIR!

Well I think I'm going, just have to wait untill next week before reserving anything...

Last time I missed the meeting at hard rock cafe, thought it was on saturday so I went to see that Beatles guy, then on saturday at hard rock I met four fans from Ireland and drank few beers with them.

Really? You would do that? I'm not too young then..? cause I would looove to go, if I don't have to do it alone...

Sure we would do that.
We're one big GN'R-family.
Let us know when you decide and we're gonna have a party there!

I feel your pain... GRR MONEY & PARENTS!!!  :rant:

It will be a great party, just like 2 years ago. And sure, we will help other GNR fans out......
 :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

in 2004 i put up Gn'r convention at the hard rock cafe here in lisboa. i remember kiki missed it by a day and ended up having dinner there on the next day, which i missed as well!
it was a great time, i had my gn'r tribute band on stage that night for a 2 hour set, and HRC played some dvd compilations i made from 8 PM till it was closed.
At the time HRC said it was their 2nd best night ever - at some point they had to close the doors since it was packed.
I'm sure we can do that again. Gn'R are palying on a saturday. it would be cool to have the party on thursday or friday, but friday i guess it's the roger waters show, so i don't knwo if anybody wants to see that.
Plus, i'll be trying my best to get the party to the knowledge of the band, and HRC is close to both Ritz and Meridian hotels, which is probably where they'll be satying, so maybe we can get some of the band members to come to the party.
the shit is that we don't have a singer for the gn'r band anymore, since we're also an originals band (kidnap - www.kidnaprocks.com)? and i don't know if i could fit in axl's shoes.
i'll try to find one.
it'll be fun to do the covers show again. it was a blast 2 years ago!

Why arent gnr on the list of bands in Rock In Rio??

they are confirmed to headline day 2

on my way to work today i saw 3 big outdoors with gn'r name on it, it feels great!

Yes I can see that - but when you look at the list of bands - they are not present!?

WHYYYY????

The party sounds great- ive committed myself to a three trip in america at the time of the show but I may be able to get out there and then go to america from there! Just wondering how much its gonna be roughly from London for a couple of nights?! flights aswell. If anyone has any ideas that would be great.

P.S I enjoy a good drink so that will push it up!!

I booked my flight yesterday from Stanstead with easyjet, ? 110. Still looking at hotels...

Iam going with Kiki,Some1,Ed,my sister,Jarmo,Hans. here a financial report:

Flight from Brussel belgium at the end of fryday afternoon...arive in Lisboa at +- 19.00..
then 3 days hotel...i thougt same as 2004....(kiki will confirm this) then back on monday morning +- 11.00 back in belgium so 13.00 at home in holland. : ok:

costs flight retour 280,- euros
               hotel +-   70,-
                 ticket     53,-
                             -------
                              403,- for  weekend you cant forget in a live time..

oh and beer + junkfood  that will be 250,-

we will be in the cafe on fryday around 21.00 a clock till closing time.....(then we will go to that donner kebab) ;D

And with me? :P

 ;D

Oh, and we sorted out the hotel yesterday. Same one as in 2004

Jarmo's coming 2? awsome :) : ok:

Only the price is a little bit more... so the costs for junkfood and beer has to be a little less  :P

does anyone know how many tickets that are sold? They won?t be sold out on monday right?

just ordered planetickets for me and five friends. We arive friday night and go back home monday morning!

Please have the meeting on friday, fuck that Waters dude, nobody?s going to see him right eh?? :hihi:

Can anyone recomend a hotel close to the Hard Rock Caf?? Cheap is good! :peace:

That HRC party sounds great...i'll be there, but I live in Lisbon so...Oh, and I would like to see kidnap!!! Hope to meet lots of gunners from all over the world :)

near hard rock, like 5/10 minutes walking there's an Ibis Hotel. the room there is 66 euros a night (for 2 guys), and it's an ok hotel (3 stars i guess).
it's very central, there's subway really close (which you'll take to go to the festival).
and it's like 3 or 4 blocks away from what i guess Axl will be staying at (ritz or meridian).

http://www.ibishotel.com/ibis/fichehotel/gb/ibi/3137/fiche_hotel.shtml

there's a lot of hotels at the area, both expensive and cheap. just google it

oh, and for cheap flights from london to lisboa, try flymonarch.com or easyjet.com
lisboa only has one airport, other airports in portugal with international flights are porto and faro, but both are 300 km away and it'll end up being more expensive for sure.

""And with me 

 

Oh, and we sorted out the hotel yesterday. Same one as in 2004
? Last Edit: Today at 05:43:09 AM by Graciela ?""


 ;D i think it will be a nice one in the hardrockcafe..... :beer:

ibis is also relatively close to bairro alto, an old part of the town , the best to hang out at night - lots of bars and cool people from all over the world, especially erasmus students.

so what hotel are you staying at? how much is it pr. night?


that sounds very good! thanks for the recomandation! : ok:

i'm so excited now, this is really happening!!

hi im thinking about going, could anyone help us with a few questions

how far is the airport away from the festival?
is there any hotels that people could recomend other than the ibis that are near to the festival ground?

thanks begsy

http://www.hotelamericano.com/

That one. It's very close to the Hard Rock Cafe

the airport isn't very far from the festival area. by can it should be something like 5 or 10 minutes.
i wouldn't consider any hotel near the festival area, since it's a park with a ghetto - lisboa's dangerous zone. but it has subway, so you can easily get there.
but for safe areas near the festival, maybe on the expo 98 zone, near the river, but those might be expensive, or maybe the Olaias area. i think there's some over there too.
but as i told you, the park where the festival takes place is near a subway station, so even if you stay in the center of the city you'll get there easily.
i remember 2 years ago it was a pain in the ass to get out of the festival area, since there way few buses and cabs for all the crowd -  the subway closed before the show ended. i hope it's better this time around. i remember when i attended gn'r's show in rio 2001 (brasil) it was also the same shit.
and i wouldn't dare to walk out of there, since it's really a bad area to walk by.

I'm also going to Lisboa. It will be the first time I see a live show of Guns 'n Roses!! Gunnershome has been going on about them for years and years (and years....). I'm really looking forward to it! It's to bad we have to wait for another three months before the show will take place.
So to all of you who are also coming to Rock in Rio to see Guns 's Roses: I'll see you there!!!  :beer:

This is so cool, I look forward to meeting you all at the HardRock, what an awesome idea!!!  My family and I will be coming all the way from Seattle, Wa.  Myself, my husband, and my two daughters who are 14 and 15.  Yes as a parent I have done my job well, I have raised my children well, GNR are a part of their everyday life, just like the mamma.  I can't tell everyone how pumped we are!!!!  Are there any other die-hard fans from Seattle going?  See everyone in about 97 days or so!!!!

That's the plan....


I guess there'll be a meeting on Friday the 26th?




/jarmo

Great all the way from Seattle!! thats the spirit!, Yeah GNR Fan meeting in the hardrockcafe on fryday the 26.



Axl and Guns are taking the stage in lisboa rir5 at 23.45!!!

yeah, my band is planning a gig at the HRC on the 26th so we can all have one big party there!

This one looks nice.

The Greeks will be there too.... again... ;)

i've tried to contact them, but they aren't fucking answering... atlest not by mail...

Check your IM ;)

so do you think axl will be at the four seasons or another one? Im half tempted to back a night there - wat the hell! probably be the only time id get to see them live!

Maybe we can make a list of Fans who are coming from the GNR forums here...or only from htgth....then we know howmuch gunners there will be there or be in the hardrock cafe?....

that sounds good...count me and my girlfriend both at hard rock and RIR

Look at the first post..... ;)



/jarmo

Thank U  : ok:

Jarmo put me up with the rest of the members attending the show as well  :peace:

me too please?

 And me  :)

I have my ticket already too.

What are the rumours for the 2 open slots at the mainstage???

none...
but the first slot will be a brasilian band. problably pitty.
the other slot will be for a big international band, we don't know as of now, and around may they'll problably add a 3rd slot for another big band. that's what used to. they add another band around may to get more ticket sales.

I think nobody can answer that question, if you really want to go:  buy a.s.a.p.

it won't sell out. that park is huge, 2 years ago the biggest crowd was around 60.000 (paul mccartney i guess).

60.000 will be cool... That was almost the crowd at Leeds and it was really easy to move around.

But I expect a lot more than that.

I got a ticket for myself and my girlfriend a week ago now.

Im driving up in my merc from Gibraltar on Thursday or Friday , it'll be a 7 hour journey.

Hope to see some fellow GnR fans there.? :)

You can find us at fridaynight in the HardRockCafe in Lisbon.
See you there! :)

http://www.hardrock.com/locations/cafes/cafes.aspx?lc=LISB


Hard Rock Cafe Lisbon
Avenida da Liberdade, 2
1250 ? 144 Lisboa
Portugal


Telephone:
+351 213 245 280



/jarmo

next week me or "mean bone" will have some news about the hard rock party.
we're planning on doing a gn'r convention again there - gn'r only dvd's from 8:30 (dinner time), and our band playing around 11pm.
2 years we had a gn'r covers band, but we're missing an axl right now, so this year we'll probably do a Kidnap show (our band) but with a bunch of gn'r covers in between.
it'll be cool if any of you coming would like to join us for a song, but only if you really can sing.
otherwise i'll stick with the low tone ones, like brownstone, it's so easy, patience, etc...
it'll be fun for sure.

Which ones can you play?

we used to play almost everything, but we haven't rehearsed it for like 2 years, we've only played some of them on some reheasals for fun. we only kept the "piano" songs like nov rain and estranged out, since we don't have a keyboard player.
if there's something in particular any of you would like us to play, maybe we can do a set list over here!
there isn't any gn'r cover i can show, but if you check our website - www.kidnaprocks.com - there's a billy idol cover there that we played when we opened for Robert Plant.

27 May is comming fast and I am also going  :D !! anyone knows wich chanel is going to transmit it here in Portugal? is it Sic Radical again? thanx

Hi, thanks to both of you for the invite i will definately try my best to make it. It will definately be an unforgetful weekend.

See ya soon ;)

Hey, got my ticket!   ;D
One question though, I'm from England so when I bought my ticket I ticked 'Post Office (other countries)' assuming my ticket would be delivered to my house. But in the confirmation e-mail I got 'The presentation of this page along with an ID document is required to get your tickets' and 'Bilhetes dispon?veis no local do espect?culo durante as duas horas que antecedem o in?cio do mesmo.' which the really unhelpful online translator said was 'Dispon?is tickets in the place of espect?lo during the two hours that precede in?o of exactly.' Does this mean I have to pick up my tickets in Lisbon?
If anyone is in the same boat and knows what to do I'd really appreciate it
Thanks
Phil

Yeah, I got the same thing on my email. I guess I'll just wait and see if they send them. If I don't have them next month, I'll call them and see whats going on

It says tickets are available at the place of the show (venue) during the two hours preceding the show...

i bought a ticket in 04 and i got the actual ticket in the mail, i picked them up at my post office, it also came with a festival map and some aditional info..

my bet is that we'll get them in the mail this year aswell. besides it will be caos if a 100.000 people have to go to one booth first and then through the entrance...

Yeah,

I got that same ticket in my mail too...  ;D

I might and this is a big MIGHT go to this gig if my family get our settlement. 

Same for me, it says I have to pick up at ticket line/sede/office at this address:

Ticket Line- Sede-Av, Elias Garcia
137.3(degree sign after the 3)-1050-099 Lisboa

Tele#+351 707 234 234

Don't worry people.

I just got my ticket in the mail today, so yours should arrive soon too.

I got 7 of them in my mailbox yesterday, they look so great! :P ;)

Here it is...

(http://www.gunsnroses.gr/images/RIR2006/RIR5ticket.jpg)

Kiki, check your pm's...

Wow, is that Nicole Kidman playing guitar? lol

Eww. Yeah, she's hot, but her songs sucks hard.

Well im flying out on the 26th for 5 nights get in. I havnt got email conformation for the tickets yet did anyone else?

Has anyone from the UK received their tickets yet?

Not from the UK, but I just got the second batch of tickets for the other 4 that will come with me...

got my tickets... : ok:

still searching for hotel tho, hard to deside...

This might be a sort-of far fetched question but is this event going to be televised on some channel in the u.s.?

Well, even if it doesn't, we'll have a dvd version really soon.

Actually make that 2-3 dvd versions...

Okay, thank you for answering my question.

"Guns n? Roses Tour dates released

Axl Rose?s band has released their European tour dates, kicking off at Rock in Rio-Lisboa.

Guns n? Roses? first European performance will take place May 26th at the City of Rock?s World Stage."

http://rockinrio-lisboa.sapo.pt/artigo.html?id=651803&lang=en

Wasn't the Guns N' Roses date supposed to be on the 27th of May?
  ???

they are, that's just an error the translator did, the portuguese version says on the 27th

Hello,

 

We?re sorry about this mistake? The 27 th May is confirmed, like you could see here http://rockinrio-lisboa.sapo.pt/programacao.html?lang=en

 

Thank you for your email

 

Paulo Guerrinha

http://www.sapo.pt

Well im from UK and got tickets today, god cant wait now i feel like a little kid waiting for christmas.

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sorry this was not a nice way from me to bring shit....exuses.

Awhh dude! Sorry to hear that....but c'mon, this is GN'R...and she's a mere female ;D

Sorry Gunnerettes out there! :-*

Dude i wish i could go but i live in canada and thats a lot of money .......  :no: But im hoping theres another leg out their of the tour and i hope it goes to Michigan or somewhere close!

So does any1 reckon i can get a ticket while im out there? Im desperate to go but i need to fit it in as im doing alot of travelling at that point. hopefully will be able to squeeze a couple of nights in lisbon if I juggle things round but dont wanna commit to buying tickets? any touts out there?!

I'll be there toO! :D

i think you'll have no problem in buying the ticket on the same day or a day before...
it's a huge open air festival... they never sold out a day before i think... they won't sell out with guns i'm sure

Graciela,did you find a nice place to stay in Lisboa otherwise 1 maybie have some room in Lisboa to sleep....i have some problems with sleeping alone..  ;D ;)

2 years ago the metallica day and the last day were sold out

Fucking Royal Mail has lost my ticket... :nervous:

oh no.....  and now what, you've bought a new ticket?

metallica wasn't sold out. i was there

Are SIC and SIC RADICAL the same channel?

no, they're the same company, but SIC is the main channel, the public one. Sic Radical is from their cable network that targets younger audiences.
they also have a comedy, woman and a news channel.

Is there any info yet on the online broadcast? I wanna get it but I dont know shit about it or even where do get it.
Can someone help me out please?



 :peace:

Any news on this?

If you're going to buy a new one, maybe you should send it to someone else?

Lately Royal mail is anything BUT royal...

Don't they also offer the option to pick up the ticket in Lisbon?




/jarmo

They are now waiting to get my ticket back undelivered... They actually called me a couple of weeks ago and told me not to worry, that they knew I had paid for the ticket and advising me not to buy another one... We'll see...

Yes they do.  Exactly what I am doing!!!!!

Just got ma ticket! see you all there  :beer:

good news. the party at the Hard Rock Cafe is confirmed.
my band (and mean bone's) will play there, and we'll do a bunch of gn'r covers.
check us out at www.kidnaprocks.com or www.myspace.com/kidnap.
work on those lyrics.
we'll take requests!

hell yeah! rock n roll putas!
it's gonna be a blast

i will be there

http://www.some1.nl/gallery/rir4/DSC01039?full=1


The dutch-team thinks this idee is fucking great!

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!! I NEED YOUR HELP DESPERATELY. I LIVE IN SPAIN AND I'M GOIN' TO THE ROCK IN RIO, I AM A GUNS FAN SINCE I WAS 15, NOW I HAVE 23 AND THIS IS THE FIRS TIME I'M GOIN' TO SEE THEM. THE PROBLEM IS WHEN I'M GOIN' TO BUY THE TICKETS THERE ARE THREE SQUARES IN THE ZIP CODE. WHAT DO I NEED TO WRITE THERE http://rockinrio-lisboa.sapo.pt/bilheteira2.html?lang=es
in the first square i put my zip code: 15006, is there anything else i have to writte?

Please, any help from you would be very welcomed
sorry for my english

Guns forever!!!!!

Just put the code in the first square

I see someone with a Gunsnroses.gr t-shirt in there...  ;)

Graciela, have you bought a ticket?
i only have to writte my zip code in the first square?


any of you have bought a ticket at the official rock in rio website?
Hablas espa?ol?

Don`t worry, just put your zip code in the first and the name of your city in the thirth. They put the squares like that because here in Portugal our zip code have 7 numbers (4 + 3 )

Rock on

THANKS A LOT

To get a ticket here is a really shit, now i can't because after fillin' the squares and all it puts something like "opera?ao nao prenchida", Any of you have suffered the same thing?, This a fuckin' shit. I'll retry later but i tought this was goin' to be easier

Are you sure that you completed all the squares?

please, anyone can help me? I have a problem with the tickets. After fillin' in all the squares and put the credit card number it doesn't work. it puts something like "operassao nao prenchido", we are tryin' wiht a friend of mine's visa. We've tried it a lot of times in the past few days. I don't know how to do ...

I really want to help you! Next time you try to fill the squares e-mail me or add me in MSN.If i`m online i`ll help you!

Thanks patience26
I've just arrievd home and I think i got it. After a lot of tryings we've got them, I hope it. We could do it with a mastercard from a friend of mine. But all these days have been really traumatic. We had tried with a visa and a master and it didn't work, i don't know why
Thanks again patience26, and all you brothers that helped me!!!!!!
I'm goin' to see my first guns live, well it's not Guns but it's goin' to be awesome. And the darkness too, I love them
Hope to see you guys!!!!!!

why is it not guns? it fucking is.
anyway, have a good time man.

Hi speed-stone. Are you goin' to Rio?
Surely it's goin' to be awesome, but to me, and that's my point of view, this is Axl Rose's band. It's goin' to be awesome but they are not Guns. To me Guns are Slash, Duff and Izzy, and obviously Axl. I'm not dissapointed with the new guys but Slash sucks over Fink or fortus or Buckethead and the same does Duff with Tommy Stimson. I've grow up with their music and to me it's like Mick Jagger took another musicians and called his new band "Rollin' Stones". It's stupid to think they are the Rolling Stones, Jagger is not Rolling Stones, and the same with Axl. I love Axl but he's not Guns n' roses
I hope you can understand me
anyway this festival is goin to be awesome, i'm really excited
Rock and Roll!!!!

Please no endless discussions about if GN'R is GN'R or not....
Only posts about the Rock In Rio gig in this thread thank you

You're also coming to the party @ HRC snakepipero?

Where is the pre-party?
I'm goin' with a couple of friends, but i think we're goin' to trip the day of the concert, the saturday
What's about the party? is there goin' to be any concert?

Sorry if anyone is annoyed by my comments but at this forum i find it very difficult to say what i think, In the velvet revolver section everybody have more freedom, in the Guns n' Roses (well, to me, Axl's band) you can only say good things, suck their dicks... "their policy" is very suspicious!!

Finally, I'm sure the Rio gig is goin' to be awesome
Great songs and a great frontman!!!
And the Darkness, I love them
Dou you like The darkness?

You can find everything you need to know about the pre-party here --> http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=1621


....and i DON"T  like The Darkness btw

kiki, have you ever saw the darkness live?
if you're a rock fan, they'll conquer you!

1 of my friends always say the same to me.
I never saw them live...  so we'll see, but i can't imagine i'm gonna change my mind about it though...

Ive got a dumb question.  Ive got tickets for both days the 26th and 27th(dont ask). do i have to take the ticket with me for both days on the 26th or can i just rip off the 26th part and leave the GNR ticket safe and sound in my hotel room, ive got a habit of losing things when pissed.

Kiki who do you mean? ;D ;D 


Ok,over the pre party in the hard rock cafe....wich songs are you guys gonna play from gnr ? appetite? please make a playlist so i can rehearsel better. ;D : ok: :peace: :beer:

it'll be funnier if it is a surprise. don't ruin it! we'll do over 15 gn'r songs, even some of the new ones!

Don't tell him the setlist, you don't wanna hear him sing :P


@ Gunnershome:  i was talking about Guus ;)

Hi people, I have a question about the tickets.
Since you've ordered them, how long does it take to get them?
I ordered them this monday, four days ago, and live in spain.

I live in Denmark, and my tickets arrived after 10 days.

wohooow, we get to meet Jarmo  ;D

Can't go to the pre party :crying: have to work very late that day, and the 27th right til 7 , i do have a felling that something awfull will happen to my boss car and his dam precious lap top.
ok breath in breath out, think it's less than a week to see Guns Live, stay happy.

February,? do you live in Lissabon? maybe you can tell when or where RIR5? is broadcast ? some details should be very nice!

Here you can look LIVE to GUNS 'N ROSES at Rock in Rio 5 on the internet.

http://music.aol.com/network_live/concert_videos/guns_n_roses

ill be in lisbon in about 30hrs!! gonna get quite drunk

How far is the festtival from Lisboa? How is called? Parque Belavista?
It's the first time i'm goin to lisboa and i'd like you help me to know these things

P.D.: Is there any camping on the festival or near?

Thanks a lot!!!

Check the first post of this thread.

Also check these:

http://rockinrio-lisboa.sapo.pt/

http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=-1016000&Y=4659000&width=700&height=400&gride=-1016382.57317964&gridn=4659795.16227925&srec=0&coordsys=mercator&db=PT&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&keepicon=true&zm=0&scale=10000&out.x=6&out.y=7

I'M HOPEFULLY GOING!!!!!

leaving for lisboa in 13 hours!!!!!!!!!!

Ok have a good trip and we'll see you on friday!

Sic radical, tv channel will broadcast it live, and they have stream but i don't know if they manage to live stream RIR. here's the link http://xl.sapo.pt/index.html?directo=1#

Sic Noticias had a 2 min special on the show of the hamerstein, they show live footage of the old band, Axl saying "eu vou", and Sebastian screaming Axl back or something like that. Not a word on the new members or how the shows went....they went all they to NY for that  :P

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damn, i can't sleep :p
hope to see alot of you fuckers out there!!!

leaving in 3 hours  ;D

heres another link... aol is broadcasting live as well....

aol.co.uk/rio




to all going to the show... have a fucking great time!

February, do you mean that there will be and internetbroadcast and a TV broadcast on that channel? or only internet? if its on tv do you have the stuff to tape it? and do you live in lissabon? or do you now some1 who's got stuff to burn it on dvd(hdd recorder would be very nice) i want to pay for the job,thank u for your time.

Leaving in 3 hours!! It's going to be fucking great!

I envy you all..
this show is going to be the best one of the european tour, watch.

HAVE A FUCKING ROCKING TIME : ok:

Sic radical will do a TV broadcast live from all the shows in RIR and some speacials, interviews and stuff, you can watch their broadcast on their page on the net to, i just don't know how many users can they support, they are powered by the main provider in portugal so let's hope.
I do live in Lisboa, and i'm trying for someone to tape the show, as i'll be at the show and my computer won't support that much time of recording and the damn TV Card is playing tricks on me, last chance will be the old VCR, last edition of RIR Sic radical repeated all the shows and i'm hopping on recording if it happens. If i managed to record w'll share it, no profit necessary :peace:.

Anyone knows if Sic Radical is on Satelite? Or it's just Sic Internacional?

February, i understand you but for me its not easy to talk with some1 from portugal so, i want to bring the show back to holland with me in best quality so i can make it a dvd and share that one on the trackers.so what i mean is this: nomather what the cost are i want that show on dvd! so please search some1 who can 100% sure he can put it on a disc in full quality.i will pay you every min you use to get done this job understand me? iam 4 days in lissabon so please tell me where i can meet you. iam in the hardrockcafe around 20.00 till its closed hope to see ya there!

Oh yeah and sic radical is on the satelite were tomorow moving the thing so we maybe can tape it from holland.

Leaving in a few hours for Madrid, and from there to Lisbon.

C ya there Gunners...  :beer:

so what time in the uk can i see this broadcasted???

Where i have to look to find information about the Belavista square? I were lookin' at officcial rock in rio page but didn't find something i wanted to know. I've never been to Lisboa so...
Could you answer some questions to help me?:
1- How far is the festival from lisboa? is near to the city?
2- Is there a campin' on the festival?


*this is not important but... how many people is expected to be on the festival? 100.000? more? less?


THANKS A LOT!!!

There's no camping at the festival site but here's camping info in Spanish: http://rockinrio-lisboa.sapo.pt/artigo.html?id=600368&lang=es

Here's a map:

(http://i4.tinypic.com/10o0f2d.jpg)




/jarmo

i read somewhere that it was camping for 6?   ????
is it far from the airport?

this will be the big one for sure. the one we have all been waiting for before they launch into the rest of europe. :smoking:

Yes, it is you have to cross the city, the price for tent/day is about right.
i don't know you age but  here's the contact's for the  youth hostels in lisbon
R. Andrade Corvo,46
1050-009 Lisboa
Tel: 21 353 26 96
Fax: 21 353 75 41
E-mail:lisboa@movijovem.pt
Parque das Na??es R. de Moscavide, 47-101
1998 Lisboa Expo
Tel: +351 21 892 08 90
Fax: +351 21 892 08 91
E-mail: lisboaparque@movijovem.pt
This one is really close to the aeroport and Bela Vista (by subway).
Their site is in english http://juventude.gov.pt/Portal/Lazer/PousadasJuventude/Foreigners/

I was asking for curiosity, nor for you obviously, it could help other fans OK.

I don't know if i can get what you want and in that time frame.
Time is something i have very litle and it's sold out  :(, i have 2 jobs and a family i 'll work all 7 days this week,  and that's not uncomon.  There are several other portuguese members on this board, i'm sure they'll try and record the show and are more likely to have the means to help you get it on quality DVD  than i can. Check the RIR thread on the main board.

I?m in lisbon now, second day!!!

was hoping to read about the show in madrid but nothing is up yet!
going to bed now then and hoping to see a lot of you fuckers tomorrow at the hard rock!!!


LISBON IS FUCKING FANTASTIC!!!!!!

just one more day till rock in rio see ya out there true fans  :hihi:

oh and im not a true fan?

bitch.



 :D just kidding!

Ok! here we go. See ya all tonight!

Hey, I found out AOL is streaming the GnR here www.aol.co.uk/rio

Looks like you guys are going to have a hot one tomorrow-86 degrees and sunny. Perfect weather! 8)

isn't Rock In Rio in Rio De Janiero, Brazil ?

What time are you guys going to the Bela Vista park?

i'm only getting there by 8 / 8.30.

You mean that 8pm, right?   :)

yup right in time to see Xutos e Pontap?s, two of my favorite bands one show, and i'm starting to get ansious  ;D

I?ve just got home now, I?m so fucking tired and I should be resting so I can be at my full tomorrow, I mean, today... lol but I gotta say that the show was pretty cool! It was full of hard-core fans, most of them foreign fans lol, when I arrived I felt like a noob, like they were all my superiors :rofl: hehe... but I had a great time, that place was full of fans so it was like we all understood each other... At first, they passed some GN?R videoclips, and then, at 11.30pm I guess, the band, Kidnap started to play... I think they did great, I mean they are still starting, of course we can NEVER compare them to GN?R as that wouldn?t be fair at all, but I really liked them, their sound (I really enjoyed It?s so easy and nightrain)... ye, it was cool.I tried to figure out if some of you were there, among all of those hard-core fans, but the answer came minutes later when Cristos and Jarmo went into the stage lol... you were great guys, and cristos lol you singing knocking on heavens door, oh god lol u even sang the "I sing one, and you sing one" part... lol I started laughing so much... I was a girl in the middle of the crowd with a blue top, but that doesn?t matter lol... what matters is that I had a great time, although I was not singing and jumping too much as I want to be at my best today lol I really admire you, the hardcore fans, that travel from country to country, following the band, and seem to be always energetic (hehe, I am remembering now the last song, Paradise City :hihi:)... god bless you!

time to sleep now lol otherwise I will be too tired for the RiR

cya guys!! : ok:

sounds a cool pre party .. ;D

i'd like to see a video of those two singing :hihi: oh well, at least some pics

Thanks for sharing!

damn i wish i was there.
i went to super bock super rock (another festival here in lisbon) to see placebo and tool(placebo was great and tool were just :drool: :drool: I WANT A GNR/TOOL TOUR : ok:)
anyways im glad the party went well  :D
i hope axl shows up at least 30 mins/45 mins later because yesterday tool were late for 20 mins and ppl were starting to get angry :S i just hope this wont happens today.

see u all later in rir :D :D GNR IN LISBON :d :d THIS WILL BE THE BEST FUCKIN NIGHT OF MY NIGHT :peace: :peace:

ok then as its 2night now is the time to place links here 4 all available links to webcasts and what not and what times we can see guns in relevent countries.
what time will gnr be on in the uk any1 know?

same time as lisbon  : ok: 23:45, im startin watching at 22:00 tho to see what the darkness are like live  :smoking:

www.aol.co.uk/rio

awesome post girl, thanx for sharing, sounds like you had a great time! ;D
have fun tonight! ;D

It was fun, wasn?t it?  ;D

You should have come and talk to us. That?s why we were there...

Sending you a pm, in case you?re from Lisbon, we can meet at the hard rock cafe tomorrow, I?m here with 5 friends from Greece.

PM?ng you...

are they going on at 20:15 or 23:45?

23 45

23:45 lisbon time ?: ok:

So what time is GN'R going on in USA Eastern Time?

5:45pm est

Here's a review from a portuguese newspaper - I'll translate later if needed cause I'm still too tired from yesterday's awesome show? ?;D

Rock in Rio: Axl regressa em grande
http://www.portugaldiario.iol.pt/noticia.php?id=688541&div_id=291

And the photos :
http://www.portugaldiario.iol.pt/consola.php?tipo=1&art_id=688541&pagina=1

Great pictures! And WHAT A SHOW!!

can someone get me the setlist?

welcome to the jungle
it's so easy
Mr.Brownstone
IRS
finck solo
sweet chille o mine
knockin on heaven's door
piano solo(dizzy?)
live and let die
band jam
dizzy reed(ziggy)
the blues
i feel good
rocket queen
guitar solo(fortus)
your beautiful
out ta get me
piano solo (axl) (fucking off in g)
november rain
bumble solo
(bumble and crowd)don't cry
better
brain solo
you could be mine
patience
robin solo
nightrain
paradise City

WOW  :o :o what can i say about last night?s concert?

simply the best concert i have ever seen in my whole fuckin life
axl?s voice was amzing , the band was so happy to be there.
i dont have the words to describe how the show was besides amazing and great
im a little sad because the tv broadcast from what i?ve heard was horrible.

GNR IS BACK : ok:

i saw someone with a HTGTH shirt sitting next to a tree near the hot stage(glasses and blond hair) but i was to shy to say hi , so if u happen to read this , let me know who u are ;D i was a gnr shirt with the cover of afd

Dear moderators: feel free to put this wherever u want? I just couldn?t find a more suitable place to put this.

I?m writing this without reading any topics or posts about RiR as I want just express myself, my opion based on what I?ve seen and felt yesterday? This sure will get big so feel free to print LOL kidding...

I had a great time yesterday. I was so anxious about the show, I had been waiting for it for months? I was so fucking nervous as time passed? I thought we were going to wait for hours like in Spain, but they ended up being just 30 minutes late? What is pretty good indeed. And then, finally, we started hearing Welcome to the Jungle? and so started a fucking great show, which I won?t forget in the near future.

There were many people there, more than I was expecting? (many GN?R fans and people that just liked the songs, the normal) I loved it, I enjoyed it at my full, but I dunno if most of people who were there did too. I often looked around and when people really looked as they were enjoying it was when the old songs were being played. People were not too excited about the new ones, and to be honest I wasn?t too? And this led me to think about something? GN?R will NEVER be the same?The more I looked at the band, the more I thought of the old one? I never wished so much to have lived in the late 80s and early 90s so I could have felt the real GN?R? I envy so much those of u who have?

I was very close to the stage, I was in the left and Axl was always running there?so I could really glanced at him which on one hand was pretty cool (damn! my brother forgot the camera, I could have taken some great pics... oh well), and on the other hand made me think that... he was old (lol this might be too stupid, but I had to look at him very close to get that conclusion), it?s not the same Axl? I mean he was really energetic, he ran a lot, did the serpentine, all of that, but I can?t explain why but I felt that something was missing there? not his voice however? cos his voice was just BRILLIANT? he sang all the songs perfectly, maybe not so well the new ones, but I really loved his voice? I got the feeling that you, who saw it on TV didn?t feel that way? but I can assure you that he sang too fucking well?better than in the 90s... well but if I could choose, and I think it?s the same for you, I would prefer a Axl who didn?t sing a thing but with the whole band, the real GN?R... as I said before, GN?R will never be the same again... it
doesn?t even matter if they release an album or not, people will always go see these Guns to hear the old hits... that?s what brings people to see the GN?R... and when I mean people, I mean the ordinary ones, not the fans like us, even though I think many fans feel the same way... I mean, if it had been Velvet Revolver in place of these new Guns, I wouldn?t have gone to see them... and why? Cos they wouldn?t play the GN?R hits... yeah... it?s really confusing but even loving Slash and Duff, I wouldn?t go see VR cos they?re not GN?R.... it would have been the same if Axl had made a band of his own...

So, when yesterday I saw GN?R, I felt that something was missing there, and that something obviously is Slash and Duff... oh well, very confusing isn?t it? It?s so sad when you think that GN?R would be soo huge if they were still together... I dunno if I would prefer to have that GN?R were not anymore and keep the old memories... but then... we could not hear our favourite songs live... I don?t think if as I have read here somewhere, Axl will be the one laughing last... cos even if he releases the album... if this tour keeps going great, there will ALWAYS be the ghosts of the old members and the old days... on the other hand, I think Slash and Duff and even Matt may feel great to see that they are really missed there, that they were so important...

I really feel bad about the new members... they were really great last night, Robin and Bumblefoot rocked, I loved their solos... and Richard is just great... but again, we gotta think that it?s really sad that they need three guitarists to do what Slash did all on his own, or maybe with the help of Izzy, yes. Like, in November Rain, they were all switching bettween them in the solos, while Slash would do it on his own, without any problems... People will never admire this new members and they once did with the old ones... What is really bad, cos we can see that this guys are really great, and are so excited when playing the new songs, as they were last night with Better and the blues... But this songs, if the album is released, will never be as great as the old ones., they will not have that magic thing upon them.. and people will always talk about the old ones, as I keep saying. It must be pretty hard for them, I so admire those guys...

Well, but switching to the show again, it was a damn good show, I loved Rocket Queen and You could be mine, they were the best in my opinion... However, I was thinking that this RiR gig would be more special... I thought that Axl, as he did in RiR 3, would be more talkative to the people, that would say anything about the album, or even talk about the past, you know... that would be very cool. but instead, for the little he talked to us, he said almost the same things as he did in Spain and in NYC... he asked us if we were into downloading, and then we said yes and he called us motherfuckers... u know, as he did in NYC... then, he did the James Brown thing, wich I didn?t like anyway (as well as the Richard and Robin Beautiful solos, which I thought were fucking lame :-\ and a bit of Don?t Cry by Mr.Bumblefoot which put people singing just like in Spain- argh why didn?t they just play it?? ??? ) as he did in Spain... I mean, he didn?t do anything special, he did this show as just a tour show, and I was so not expecting this as this would be by far, the most important show of the tour, being aired in so many coutries... but maybe, as my brother says, he just doesn?t care. But this is not all... I did get the impression that he even sang less songs than in Spain (like Madagascar, My Michele and There Was a Time - the only new music I really liked... I was so sad that they didn?t play it)... but I?m not sure about it as I wasn?t in Spain... I really thought they would do a 3 hours show, that they would play more songs, maybe from the Illusions... but no, nothing like that happened, and yes I was a bit dissapointed about that....

Just to finish this big review (soz guys :P), I left as it finished, happy... even being a bit dissapointed and felling that something was missing there (as I said above) I think Axl and the boys did a great show, played the songs very well so I don?t have major reasons to complain... This is what we have now, and as GN?R fans, we gotta be happy that Axl is still doing this shows, so we can have a little about what were the old, magic, fantastic days! ;)

SETLIST (as I recall, not the same order)

WTTJ
It?s so easy
Mr. Brownstone
Live and Let Die
Nightrain
Rocket Queen
Sweet Child O?Mine
November Rain
The Blues
IRS
Better
Knocking on Heaven?s Door
Patience
You Could be Mine
Outta get me
Paradise City

'if Axl had made a band on his own' ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
I don't know how familiar you are with GNR history,  though,  Axl HAS made a band on his own.
GNR was band that was made of Slash, Duff,  Izzy,  Gilby and Matt (Adler too,  though he left much ealier) and they played till '93.   From there on,  Axl was such an obnoxious little prick,  that they were forced to leave the band.
Before they left the band, still during the time of Illusion tour,  Axl has FORCED the entire band to sign that HE was GNR legally or else he wouldn't have gonne on stage that night.
Actually,  VR make 3/6 of GNR from their best years and they are more GNR than the band you think are GNR therefore,  I don't have a clue what you are talking about ???
Axl has made a band on his own/forced everyone else out (the same thing he did in pre GNR days),  but has kept the name.
My logic fails to see how someone with hired musicians (none of the post '94 guys has yet recorded an record under the name of GNR as TSI was the last studio era.  True,  LIVE ERA can be considered the same as it is more studio polished than LIVE recording),   can be considered more GNR than several former guys in a new band.
REMEMBER,   Axl today can as much be considered as a cover band of the old days as he can be considered the way you see him. : ok:
Just the way you wouldn't go see VR (obviously for other reasons that the ones you stated),  I wouldn't go and see Axl although I 'followed' that band from earliest stages.
However,  I am obviously more informed of what is going on in both camps and will therefore inform you that VR play almost as many GNR hits as Axl.
On their latest tour they played Mr.  Brownstone,  It's so easy,   Used to love her,  YCBM intro.
Non GNR bit also played and far more interesting than Axl's 74 solos per concert,  Wish you were here,  Negative creep..
Also,  check out Gilby.
You'll see him playing SCOM,  KOHD,  Used to love her,  Dead flowers among others : ok:

thanks for ur comment... I really appreciate it cos the point of a forum is this... to discuss things... I didn?t know that the bands of the old members played the GN?R songs (soz lol). But this doesn?t matter, maybe I you didn?t understand my point of view here, I was misundertood but it?s ok... I?ll try to explain better, but just don?t forget that this is just my opinion, formed on what I?ve seen last night... they?re my thought just that ...and I?m not negative, cos if you?ve read the full review I said that I really liked that and that it?s great that Axl keps doing this tour for us. You can call me realistic if you want, yeah that?s what I am cos after seeing the show, this came into my mind: GN?R will never be the same... there?s always something missing, and of course, it?s the old members... It?s really hard to keep being the same band when most of the members who helped to build it are not there... Axl can?t do all on his own... If he releases the new album, I don?t think people will regard it as being GN?R, because GN?R is the old one. Maybe it would be better if he has done a new band or something... and then release the Chinese Democracy... but would Axl and his band be as successful?? this is all very difficult to talk about, this is just my opinion and obviously, there are people who will think I don?t care about the new Guns... which is not the case... but I try to see things in a realistic way. But as I said, would we be happier if GN?R wouldn?t exist anymore?  If we just kept the old memories of the gold days... I dunno... this is why we just can?t shut up with the reunite thing... Cos it would be just fucking wonderful to have the old GN?R again.

Inez,
What did the crowd keep chanting?  They kept going thru the second half and I couldn't tell if it was the same thing or what they were saying at all.
XO
Neida

well the crowd sang many things... but not where?s Slash! lol I think we were a nice crowd, that?s why I was a bit disappointed as the concert in Spain we bigger... but anyway, they kept saying Guns N? Roses!! Axl!! and Portugal!! and I think that was it lol... well, there were some drunk people near me who kept singing Porto or something but that?s stupid... they were drunk lol...

THAT's good to hear!  It looked like Bumblefoot cut his solo time short and I wondered...
Neida

Great Show they were very good : ok: : ok:, the problem for me was the 6 solos :no:, i only like the brain solo, and what was Axel doing in that small cabin on the right of the stage?? ??? ???

Is not AXEL is AXl and he was shanking hands  : ok:

Inez,
It looked to me like there were long periods of time where the crowd was quiet during the middle of the show.  I was watching as the camera panned out past the first few rows.  Were they interested?  Bored?  Just sitting there?  I'd like to hear about the encore.  Things seemed...ummm...quiet
Axl was knocking himself out to keep their attention, that was plain and everybody on that stage put on a first class show- 100 %.  (too bad the we can't say the same about the TV sound people) From what you saw, did the audience appear to enjoy the second half of the show; those who were not old time fans or hard core GNR fans?
Thanks,
Neida

the show was great,for all of you that coulsn't go,here's a french site, with some pics and all of the songs from the concert  http://www.gnrfrance.net/gnr/actualites-news-guns-n-roses/actu.htm

keep rockin dudes,

the crowd's reaction was great, on robin's side of the stage everyone was chanting, ROBIN ROBIN ROBIN!
people loved the concert, and they loved Axl's kindness towards the audience. Axl did the most dificult thing he could ever pull off. he came here and he gave a great show and won a lot of new fans over it.

most people didn't like Axl cuz of what happened here in 1992, and weren't at all impressed with what they saw at the VMA's or the 2002 tour. but after this concert everyone was raving about how good the band was, and how they didn't even miss slash ( and i got this from hardcore slash fans that would've never shut up about how this was not guns n roses) well needless to say, after the concert. they just loved robin, richard and bumblefoot.

and to tell u the truth, i was watching the recording of the show. and it seemed like a whole other concert... no energy there, basicly cuz of the sound, u couldn't hear the way the crowd was chanting a singing along to every freaking song, even better! and you couldn't hear the instruments thru most part of the show.

the radio broadcast on the othger hand was very good from what i've heard. so if we can get that source and copy paste it to the video of the show. we'd have a nice dvd out there.

rock on.

and all of you hattin gn'r for this gig. shut it. you weren't there, Axl could've never captivate 50.000 people like that if he gave a bad show. that show was a lot better than the one the original gn'r gave here in 92, and a lot better than most concerts the new gnr gave also. Axl and the entire band did very well. and now, Portugal loves them! :peace:

lol I?m Ines... ;) anyway...I often, during the show, looked around to see if people were enjoying... The crowd was not too energetic, yeah that?s true... I think that around me I was the only one jumping and singing through the whole show... But people loved hearing the old hits such as Sweet Child O?Mine... I went crazy when WTTJ started and yeah, maybe this was when people were more enthusiastic, and in Paradise City too as well... yeah.  I was near the stage in the left and besides some drunk assholes near me, people were enjoying it. I think that right in the centre were most of the hard core fans so obviously they were vibing as much as I was... but as I was near the stage, I couldn?t see if people further were having much fun... But one things is for certain, most ppl didn?t appreciate the new songs, and sometimes it looked that many ppl didn?t even know the lyrics of songs like Mr.Browstone... but I dunno... I was paying much attention to the show to care about the other ppl lol :P Anyway, people went crazy when Axl went near the fence and shacked hands, that was great, it shows that ppl still care about Axl... Now, when Robin or Robert would go to the left, where I was, I don?t think ppl really cared about it... lol except when Robin started to pull the fence... hehe but overall, I think that most of ppl enjoyed it, yes.

don't have time to read everything, can someone tell me where the thread  is or what Axl said during the concert to fans.....

Thanks

who the fuck is robert? ???

Another review from Portugal

http://www.correiodamanha.pt/noticia.asp?id=203280&idselect=185&idCanal=185&p=200

LOL sorry!! I was in a rush to write u know.... Of course I meant Richard... oh well...

Hey You all we are back from a very nice Rock n roll weekend in portugal!
Iam gonna make it a short review because iam to tired to make it a long 1 ;) here it is:


Great Sound very good band with a superm P.A Man.this band plays with lot more balls then when they played in 2002.

Bumblefoot is a very good guitarplayer,also the rest of the guitarmans..its a great band,loved Robin with his "crazy horse" attiute.

Iam now playing clips off the show from newgnr but that sound is not half the sound ive heard in the field.

Axl,.........Axl played better with 1000% full power and he was great on that one! BUT...And now it comes...or no it will not come...ive been spoking to HTGTH managment and its better that when you want to hear my idee about Axl on stage and the "A" tent  then you have to send me an mail or something.

There a some rules on this forum and some censored things about my opinion have to do with that....

I Love GNR and the new songs they are very good but i have to think over things that i saw in the show. and i dont mean the playing en singing that was very good and sounded terefic.

Love you Axl and the rest but iam a true fan and i dont want to lie or let die my feelings! iam gonna see ya all in 4 days in germany and then london and the rest so then i will think an judge again.

Over the Fan meeting in the Hard rock cafe : SUPER GIG BOYS!! YOU RULED THE PLACE specialy with the fast version of one in a milion!!
Christos is a hell off a singer!

Later more! and please reed that this is my opinion so you all must go and judge for yourself!?

Just got back from Lisbon? What a great weekend this was!! It was so nice to meet all the people at the Hard Rock Caf? and put faces to usernames. Many thanks to the boys from Kidnap for organising everything. Thank you, thank you, thank you, guys!!? ?:-* You rock!!!

The show was great. I?m sure a lot of people will go into more detail about it. The highlight for me was Better. I was amazed how great it sounds live. Brilliant.

Oh, and bumping into Robin when we were sightseeing on Sunday afternoon and having a little chat with him was kinda cool too.? ;D Such a nice guy

Ines,

I was also on the left of the stage and really close up front. I actually think that people reacted very well to Robin, considering that many people over there didn?t know anything about him. I?ve heard a guy, very drunk and stoned  to another ?who?s the guy?? and the response ?got no idea but he can fucking play?
I do relate to what you said, we all love the old band and whish time stood still for them and they just kept producing new AFD all this time, but at this point in time, I didn?t felt like something was missing there. I?ve watched as many bootleg shows as I could get my hands on, and with the exception of some early on 87/88, I?ve never seen such happy players, having great fun doing there job, in that band as I?ve saw Saturday. I do think that rubs on the public, they were enjoying it as much as we were, either that or they all good actors.

Meanbone,

I?ve got a promise of a VHS of the show, I don?t know how to covert it, so any help will be appreciated, and I?ll share it of course. The friend that record it and was there, says we?ll be very disappointed with the sound, it was on and off, and no definition (in lack of a better word).

I don?t understand that half excuse us from Merk, if that went bad he should apologise for most of the 2002 shows and the MTV thing.
Anyways on the show it self, and with the exception of the ?I feel Good?, which i didn?t get it, i considered it just amazing, the mistakes were so minor considering everything else, I didn?t find them relevant. But when Sunday I checked the board ready to share my enthusiasm, I couldn?t believe the so many supposed hard fans that we?re just bashing, Axl was out  breath all the time and the new guys butchered the old songs, that sort of thing. I admit I thought that maybe was just my eagerness to see the band live that clouded my judgment. Thankfully, never thought saying it, I?ve got a Axl hater at home (prima dona rose, is what he calls it on a good day), and he loved the show. My husband is really critic even of the bands he likes (Iron Maiden, Manawar, old Metalica and the old time favourite Dream Theater, yes that?s what i have to put up with :P). He was never much impressed with GNR, Slash and Duff for him were average players with a big publicity machine, and a good fucked them all Rock n Roll attitude, that produced some good tunes but that?s it, I?ll share his views and trust me he would love nothing better than to say I told you so this guys suck big time. Instead he loved Brain ?finally this guys come up with a good drummer?, Fortus and Bumble, he thinks Robin has a great stage presence and technical ability but no sense of melody, he couldn?t get the bass sound because of the distortion of the guitars and see?s no need for the 3 guitar players that smother the keyboards and the bass. But he even admitted that Axls voice was very good, considering the demand of the songs and his stage presence always moving around. He loved the solos, and all the true rock nR fans I?ve talked to today at work agreed, that?s a proper r&r show  they said, all that went to reminisce on the 90, considered them to long to much off, but all they wanted was to hear as much old classics as they could get. By comparison with the old no one was very impressed with the new songs, although hubby that hated the new songs when I showed them (as i?m a downloading motherfucker too  :hihi:) now think they?ve a lot of potential especially considering the sort of rock music you get on the radio. I actually think that if they?re playing the songs live at big festivals and not only for the hard core fans, they should play it on the radio and let it be known to the world, if people is earing a song for the first time even if they like it, it breaks the flow of interaction with a big crowd. I also know that they can be bind for legal issues with the record company not to promote actively on the media a product that for all effects belongs to the record company, that doesn?t get the profit?s form live shows or broadcasts but from the selling of the records.
All things considered, and most of the people that I know and went to the show we?re old fans and didn?t care for the band in the last 15 years or not fans at all they just like r&r and went to check it out found it a great show.
Just loved when Axl asked the people that didn't think they would be there to rise their hands and half the crowd puted their hands up  :rofl:
To the lady fans, most my girl friends miss old Axl, great ass and not afraid to show it, long red hair and leaner figure, but still very much eatable, robin stood his foot as a defiantly, strange hottie. 

I just got back home from Lisbon. Just took me 24 hrs to get from A to B thanks to a "slight" delay which made me miss my connecting flight in cold and rainy Frankfurt.

First off I just wanna say that if you weren't there, you can't judge the show.

You had to be there and feel the energy from the crowd. It was the biggest show I've ever been to and it was just amazing.

The two leaks they played sound great live and so does the rest.

The biggest surprise for me was hearing Robin's first solo. I thought I recognized it but then I just thought the heat had made me hear things.

I thought it was "Finlandia" by Finnish composer Jean Sibelius. It actually was! I asked Robin about it on Sunday when I bumped into him out on the town. I told him that I might've been the only one there who recognized the song.? ;)


Also, thanks to everybody who showed up on Friday. Special thanks to the Portuguese fans (Kidnap) who made it happen. It was really great! It was cooling meeting you all. Rui, MeanBone, Lourenco, Juani, Evil Ash, the Greeks, erose, Festah (I didn't hear what you said the first ten times!), the couple from USA, the girl with the flyers and so on and so on...

Edit: Many thanks also to the people I forgot the first time around: The Dutchies, GMG and Christos.

Thank God Christos always has something to say because I certainly didn't. I don't know how he got me up there, I think it was the "few" beers I had that night....? :hihi:


Oh and hello to the guy who had flown in from USA (?) who I bumped into while I was on a bathroom break during The Darkness' set.




/jarmo

Cool, did you talk about anything else with Robin?

jarmo, do you know anybody that recorded your thing and cristos on stage? because backstage we couldn't hear anything and i would love to see that!

a big thank you to everybody that showed up at the hard rock, and for the big recepetion that kidnap got. it was definitly our favorite show since the crowd was so into what we were playing.
special thanks to jarmo and cristos for introducing us, and cristo, we'll miss you anytime we play knocking on heavens door again!

as for the gn'r show, it was my favotite of the 3 i saw on this tour (with madrid and NYC on the 17th), too bad the tv broadcast was terrible.

Lisbon, the show....




I hope not!  :nervous: 

Somethings are better if you had to be there to see...... :hihi:





/jarmo

I'm pretty sure someone did. I missed it cos I had to go to the toilet (all those beers...), but I think Christos told me not to worry, that I could see the recording...

it'll probably be all over ebay soon.  :hihi:
that thing was priceless!

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I thought it would be funny to share, a little drawn playmoAxl  :hihi:

http://www.playkingdoms.com/pk/default.asp

What a Reply from YOU Jarmo,

First off all i dont think that recording of the HRC for Jarmo was nesserly because he didnt speak a note.

2nd thing thanks to US, Jarmo!? the guys that have booked your hotel and payed you youre cab's and drinks. and the ones dat sleeped on the floor so that you could sleep wel in the bed.

3rd Personly i realy don't care how fair you up with saying only the good things about gnr but i hate it when you say that this show was only good performence.

The papers in the netherlands are giving other storys about this show..........

Iam a real music fan and are coming on many rock concerts so ik can give a opion about things that happen on stage. and there where very good things but there were sad things as well.so dont push it to far with only giving a way the good things.

But thanks to kidnap,that was great!

http://www.some1.nl/gallery/rir5/DSC00012

just got back from porto, not quite as nice a place of lisbon but cool to see.

The show was fucking awsome, had a hell of a hangover so just chilled sittin on the grass at the back.


yeah loud music me bing slight pissed at the time slurring my words did not help :P

it was cool to meet everyone, although i'm having difficulty in remembering anyone on account of how fucked i was. i aint gonna get that drunk at hammersmith:P but probably at download :P

A few pics from the pre show.

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http://www.gunnertemple.com/uploads/adam/3.jpg
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http://www.gunnertemple.com/uploads/adam/8.jpg
http://www.gunnertemple.com/uploads/adam/9.jpg
http://www.gunnertemple.com/uploads/adam/10.jpg

Thanks, I'm pretty proud of it considering I got home today instead of yesterday.

I honestly forgot you guys because I was trying to remember everybody. Thanks for everything in Lisbon though and I'm sorry for the fuck up.

I was trying to figure out who I met at the HRC. I met the Dutchies before the HRC. So my mind was on something else. Not that it matters to you.


/jarmo

Hey man,

thanks for the nice words for my singing, I'm pretty sure it was just the band and not me.

Also, forgive Jarmo, I think it was the loooooooooooooooooong trip. I'm pretty sure he was just dizzy when he posted this...

Hey man, here's 2 pics for starters...  ;)

I got it on DVD. If anyone can make a video out of it, in order to get it online, send me a pm with your address and you got in a few days.

And you guys are great, I'm pretty sure you could be at the stage of RIR and handle it great. Maybe sometime in the future we'll all be together on a stage again, who knows? Maybe someday in Greece...  ;)

(http://www.gunsnroses.gr/Christos/Jarmo_Christos.jpg)

(http://www.gunsnroses.gr/Christos/Christos_Kidnap_On_Stage.jpg)

I think I know the man that sings  :P

Christos, I thought it might be you I saw on the day of the show!

I saw you near the stage, taking pics (I was right up front) and then passing with Jarmo, I think  :)

hey everyone thanks for coming to our small show last friday :)

thanks Jarmo and Christos for the intro to the show!

Christos i gotta send u an e-mail soon!

as soon as i get the video for the show i'll put some of it on you tube for you all to see.
Christos do you have the whole show on dvd?

thanks to everyone else i met there! u guys were very cool! :peace: :beer:

I have some of the show on dvd, something like 35-45 minutes...

Just listened to the Rio show the whole show just falls apart the first few shows.  Im not talking about sound quality or anything I know there was problems, the show just lacked any flow.  It was just perform a song then stop for a while do a solo then repeat that.  Didn't hear one song lead straight into another.

Didn't sound like a rock concert as the crowd couldnt get into it will all the stopping.  Sounded more like a studio Jam or something they would do on a radio show. Thats my 50 pence

Pics uh? I got some too, this one's from friday too.

http://www.gnrcomplete.com/download/rir091.jpg
http://www.gnrcomplete.com/download/bumblefoot.jpg <=bumblefoot
http://www.gnrcomplete.com/download/axl.jpg <= Axl
http://www.gnrcomplete.com/download/finck.jpg <= Finck

got more pics but can't be bothered to upload 'em right now, packing my stuff for germany.

Hey Everyone!!  Been back from Rio for a week now, but have been contimplating what exaxtly to tell.  First of all, the first part of my journeys schedule was HRC, my goal to meet Jarmo, and some of the others from HTGTH.  The Hardrock was packed full when we arrived, and I seriously didn't think we would get in, with about 10 couples ahead of us in line, I think by the grace of God my husband and I were pulled ahead of all of those in line in front of us and let in.  I just started asking people about HTGTH, and Jarmo.  We finally made our way back to the table where some of them were, and that is where I met you Jarmo!!!  Truly it was a real pleasure!!!  Thank you for HTGTH, you are a miracle worker, you have given all of us die-hard GNR fans something to look forward to each and everyday.  (PS we are the couple from USA).  Secondly Graciela, who loved my GNR belt I was wearing, you were very sweet, also a pleasure to meet you.  Christos from Greece, I don't know if you remember me, I was the gal who tapped you on the back and told you I was Greek, buy had never visited Greece before.  You have an incredible voice, hope you are using your singing abilities at home as well, you totally shine, what a nice gent you are.  You gave me a card, I promise to look you up when I visit, and I will.  Thank you Kiddnap (pardon If I spelled that wrong) You were all absolutely awesome, I enjoyed your band fully, I envy you all for your talents as well, you guys got me pumped for the concert  the next night.  Thank you all for making my goal complete.  In regards to the concert,  I am in no way here to complain as I flew 8000 miles just to see you Uncle Axl and see you I did.  The rushes that were going through me were incredible in the beginning when Axl said "Do you know where the fuck you are?", but you couldn't see him. The next thing I knew I was standing 500 feet away from him.  Axl thank you for showing up, you are still my hero after all of these years,  I look forward to seeing you again here in the USA next year,  and since I know that you hate downloaders as you made that quite clear, I promise you I will not share my video of the concert with anyone online.    Portugal  will not be heavy on my list of places to go, as the people in general were not very hospitable at all, with the exception of our Hotel staff at Hotel Real Parque, you all took such good care of us, we thank you.  P.S. The food was yucky, so I bless good o'l McDonalds, and Hardrock Cafe for wonderful tastes from our homeland.  Well I could go on forever, but I am not here to write a book, but anyone feel free to ask me anything anytime and I will gladly chat with you later!!!  Thanks again to all of you.


msaxl43

Hey,

ofcourse I remember you and your husband.

Thanks for all your kind words, you are a true hero, travelling from the US to Portugal to see GNR...

Email me when you can, you got it on the card.

Hope to talk to you soon...

Best regards,

Christos

Here we have some pics from the rio trip!


Kidnap in action!

(http://i3.tinypic.com/15oe2k8.jpg)

A "Gunner" and me during Kidnap!

(http://i5.tinypic.com/15odjrs.jpg)


Me and my fireds from norway!... right before the gig starts...


(http://i5.tinypic.com/15ob043.jpg)

Here i'm getting interviewd by some american camera team lol!

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(http://i4.tinypic.com/15obdys.jpg) jarmo is watching out for me so i'm not saying anything stupid eh...


pretty close to the stage

(http://i5.tinypic.com/15odmr6.jpg)

...

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paradise city

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chilling out at the hard rock the day after the gig!


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waiting for Kiki to deside to come with us or not... she tried, but when the hard rock staff cought her outside with a huge drink she was thrown back in to the hard rock he he

(http://i5.tinypic.com/15odw9l.jpg)


Jarmo and mr. fucked up...
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And last but not least, the lovely Graciela!

(http://i4.tinypic.com/15occ5c.jpg)


what a hell of a weekend!!!? : ok: : ok: : ok: