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Continuing their tradition of bringing some of the hottest acts - both legendary and new - to their fans, The "Rolling Stones: A Bigger Bang" World Tour announced today that multi-platinum rockers GUNS N' ROSES will join the bill in both Nurnberg July 10th at Frankenstadion and in Leipzig July 12th at Zentralstadion.

 :beer:

edit:  you`ll find this on both the eventim (promoter) and stones homepage : ok:

GnR as an opener? weird. i know axl is a fan of the stones, but i'm still surprised he'd be an opening act, for ANYONE.



05.04.06 The Rolling Stones 'A Bigger Bang' Will Be Joined By Guns N' Roses
THE ROLLING STONES
A BIGGER BANG - WILL BE JOINED BY
GUNS N' ROSES
MONDAY, JULY 10 - NURNBERG - FRANKENSTADION
& WED. JULY 12 - LEIPZIG - ZENTRALSTADION


Starting in just 4 weeks, the most exciting and powerful rock 'n' roll show in the world is coming to the stadiums of Europe. Kicking off on Saturday May 27, 2006 at Barcelona's Olympic Stadium, The Rolling Stones - A Bigger Bang European Tour - will play over twenty countries at the most famous stadiums and venues in the world. There will be 36 European concert dates in 2006 including performances in Spain, Belgium, France, The Netherlands, Poland, Austria, Italy Greece, Croatia, Serbia, Germany, Switzerland, Portugal and the UK. The Rolling Stones A Bigger Bang will also visit Russia - their first return visit since 1998's Bridges To Babylon tour.

Continuing their tradition of bringing some of the hottest acts - both legendary and new - to their fans, The "Rolling Stones: A Bigger Bang" World Tour announced today that multi-platinum rockers GUNS N' ROSES will join the bill in both Nurnberg July 10th at Frankenstadion and in Leipzig July 12th at Zentralstadion.

They are known as one of the most controversial and popular American Rock Bands of all times. They have sold over 85 million albums. They are the only act to hold the top two album spots in both the UK and US on the week of releasing both records with Use Your Illusion I and Use Your Illusion II. Their album, "Appetite for Destruction" holds titles for the Greatest Guitar Album Ever (Total Guitar, June 2003), Greatest Metal Album (Spin, July 2003), #1 Essential Hard Rock Album (Kerrang! March 2004), and their rock-anthem November Rain holds the #1 spot on Dutch Veronica radio for the number 1 song (December 2004). They are Guns N' Roses and they will be appearing at 2 shows only as part of The Rolling Stones A Bigger Bang tour this summer.



http://www.rollingstones.com/news/press.php?uid=535

 :o That'll be a great show. I wish I could go.

more dates?!  :o


 :D

has anbody got a link to the sites

i just relised if this is true,then it fits perfect with the end of the dates we have and the rumoured UK tour

My guess it is a trade for moving the Spain show to the 25th.  The Stones stage must be soooo big that it needs more time to put in place.

Metallica and U2 recently opened for The Stones. ?It's considered an honor.

Perfect!  :beer:

Guns N' Roses everywhere!  :D

Holy crap.

That would be a dream concert for me.

Good for GnR.

The Stones are about the one band in the world (short of the Beatles having a reunion with their original lineup...which would require resurrection) I think GnR could/should be an opening act for.

UFB.

Wow, I know the Stones were friends with the original GN'R line-up, Ronnie Wood even jammed with the band a few times on the UYI tour, so I wonder how they feel about the new line-up opening for them?

Even more interesting when the original GN'R were considered to be the next Stones too.

I can just picture Axl coming out to sing with Mick during the Stones show.  Maybe a little SFTD?

Man.....I wish I was gonna be there.

These are shows we will REQUIRE audio boots from.

16 years later and they are still opening for the Stones  :-X :o

WOW ?:o

This is some good news and should bring some mainstream credibility back to Axl. ?: ok:

Wait didn't Mick Jagger request GnR to open for them in 1998/9 but would only have GnR open for them if certain old members were in the band?

Or Dead Flowers


Or Jumpin Jack Flash

The list is endless.

 :drool:

OMG now I wish I lived in Europe lol. ?The first & only time I saw the Stones, we drove 8 hours to Canada to see them perform at an outdoor festival with AC/DC, which was amazing, but still NOTHING compared to this. ?You lucky German bastards... ? :peace:

That would kick ass, I hope he would sing "salt of the earth" with them like he did in '89.

sympathy for the devil.."...please allow me introduce myself.."........... imagine that   :drool:   :nervous:

Yeah, I remember that too, they wanted GN'R to open, but only if it was the classic line-up. I guess they wanted to see the original band together as much as some of us do. : ok:

To me, the Salt of the Earth duet, with Axl and Izzy joining the Stones, is one of the greatest performances in rock history.  The two greatest rock front men of all time.  You have to appreciate the greatness of Mick and Axl sharing the same stage.  I hope Axl performs with Mick again!!!!  Somebody get the soundboard of this one!!!!

this is monstrous! i can't miss this show!!

Never thought I'd see GNR open.. but hey this is the Stones!

The duets will be amazing!

leipzig/germany july 10th
n?rnberg/germany july 12th
bilbao/spain july 14th/15th
Manchester Arena July 18
Sheffield Arena July 19
Glasgow SECC July 21
Newcastle Arena July 22
Birmingham NEC July 24
Nottingham Arena July 25
Cardiff Arena July 27
Bournemouth Arena July 28
Wembley Arena July 30

these dates look realistic......the rumours fit......

now if Bono came on stage as well at the same time fuck me it would be amazing but not going to happen so back on topic

where did they come from

and wtf Bournemouth Arena July 28 seriously the arena would be full of geriatic 80 year olds asking axl to speak up  :confused: :nervous:

Axl's voice was damn perfect that night. It was brilliant.

Yup, I mentioned SFTD earlier.  That'd be my personal choice, but there's so much material there to do.....Hopefulyl they will.

This is ?ber cool :drool:

I wonder if this also means that certain old members might be returning to the band... probably not, but you never know! :o

It's not so much that GN'R are opening for them, but more like 'playing with' them. That's how I read it anyway. Perhaps GN'R go on first, but it's still a double-bill type affair.

Rev.

Exactly, that's what I was trying to hint at  :hihi:

Yes he sure did. It will be interesting to se how quick these insiders change their tune and start mentioning a reunion.

NOTHING is out of the question now.   Alot of people are going to have egg on their faces in a few short weeks. 

Damn you guys, I was looking for that Jagger statement to make a big splash on the forums...  :P

It certainly does make the reunion rumours seem less far-fetched and I'm waiting to see what happens with the "insiders"

I think the situation in 1998/1999 is/or was a little different. ?We have had leaked songs, and this band has actually played live before. ?The other thing is why would Axl turn his back on the guys who have been loyal to him the past 10 years or more? ?I also don't think Axl is the type of person that would just dump the new band and play old songs again. ?I think he has moved on. ?This being said I don't think it would be out of the question for Izzy to have some hand in the new band(songwriting).

these are all the rumoured dates i heard about until yesterday.... the shows for each country had different sources..and they`d fit perfectly in gnr`s time schedule.  the two german shows happened to be true : ok:

i guess there`s definitely some truth to the other shows as well....

Like this?

(http://gnrontour.com/sets1989/19891219photo01.jpg)

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I guess it must have been in Fortus' imagination that he was rehearsing with the band ?:hihi:

Axl isn't just going to dump the bandmembers that have been loyal to him for so long.  With the exception of Izzy I don't think he will work with any of the old guys again.

Heh, thats a funny statement.  yeah he's never done that before. ::)

Show me a pic of Fortus rehearsing with the band or a statement from Axl and you might have a point. : ok:

will thats just fucking beautiful if thats the case ive got two weeks holiday then so i can make most if not all them dates depends on my money situation not very long to fill all them venues though 2 1/2 months

No he hasnt. Those guys quit on their own. But thats offtopic anyway.

He must have been lying  ::)

Please tell me which loyal bandmember he fired.

Loyal? They've been doing there other projects and getting on with there with careers while still getting paid for being in GnR, it's good business sence that's what it is. But this is digressing anyway.

When? where?  (and my personal favourite that everyone uses) Source?

If they were done with there parts on the album why can't they work on other projects?

The new band makes sense to open for the Rolling Stones. ?I mentioned that this current situation is different than the 1998/1999 situation(Mick only wanting the old band) because GNR have already booked shows in Europe this time, and have sold out in New York.

And why did they quit? ?Because Axl wanted everything done HIS way. ?Kinda the same thing don't ya think?

*SIGH* Would you rather things Axl's way or slash's? keep in mind slash's way is snakepit. Again though this is offtopic, I don't want this to turn into that other thread that got locked.

This is a great opportunity for the new band to play in front of big crowds.  This exposes them to  a lot more potential fans.

It was never about Axls way or Slashs way, it was about THE BANDS WAY. GNR wasn't just Slash and Axl remember?  ?I'll leave it at that.

On topic (sorry guys), It's a great opportunity for GNR to catch some positive mainstream press to open for The Stones. ?I can't wait for the boots.

didn`t you see the "rehearsal pics" that were posted yesterday?? :hihi: :hihi:

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=28947.msg546197#msg546197

Damn, I have tickets to two Stones shows in Europe. G?teborg in Sweden & Warsaw in Poland BUT I also got a ticket to GNR in Warsaw three days before the Stones play there :)

May 12 is around the corner!!!

Wow, My two fav. bands of all time playing together.  Unreal.  Too bad this did not happen in the States.

What if Axl pulled a "no-show" on Mick.... that would be "fuckin hardcore" man... :hihi:

That would never happen, I think Axl has too much respect for the Stones to do that to them.

if somebody said to you about a year ago that GNR would be doing 4 warm up shows in NY,then a european tour including download festival (never thought theyd return to donnington) and then opening for the ROLLING FUKIN STONES on a couple of shows,would you have believed it  :no: .but its true  :yes: .unbloodyfukinbelievable!!! 

What the fuck?

oh god... I was expecting this.. but never really thought Axl would agree to open for anyone... not even the Stones...

anyway its something good... damn I hope Izzy joins on stage...  and If Slash turns up as welll I wouldnt mind :D

They said on the radio this morning that Keith needs some kinda brain surgery from his jet-skiing-after-fallin-outta-coconut-tree accident. ?So maybe the Stones will need to cancel/delay these shows?

Nah, I belive he is having his surgery this week. I read an article that said he will be fully recorvered in about 3-4 weeks time. So that gives them plenty of time before the scheduled shows in July.

Oh shut up already. It has absolutely nothing to do with these shows.

Yet some of you need to bring the whole "Axl ruined the band" thing into the threads.


Great to see more European dates. Seems like this "test tour", as some put it, is getting longer and longer.




/jarmo

He's having blood drained from his head. ?Sounds serious I know, but doctors said yesterday that Keef will be ready for the start of the Stones European tour which starts May 27th. ?So he's ok.

"This is why Kieth can't be killed by conventional weapons".

Remember what movie this quote was from??? :hihi:

Keith Richards, the Rolling Stones guitarist, is facing an operation after suffering a brain haemorrhage in a fall, it was reported last night. ?

The 62-year-old musician has been told by doctors he needs to have blood drained from his skull after banging his head last week.

He is expected to make a full recovery once blood is removed, so i dont think there is any threat to the shows

Boy you're on the ball Jarmo.  We stopped this coversation already out of respect for the board.   ::)

wow.....what an unbelievable show! :smoking:

cool? 8)

Waynes World 2

Axl is not stupid....nice move, don't fuck it up dude! That is way cool...ain't it nice to see management play nice with each other :hihi:
p.s. what's this about Keith and brain surgery...he was released from the New Zealand hospital (mild concussion) a couple days ago...and that was making front page news on yahoo and cnn -which I thought was pretty damn funny actually...what radio station is reporting that he is having surgery...smells a little BS to me...just from a standpoint of it not being picked up by more media...just curious.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006200392,00.html

Keith Richards brain op
By GORDON SMART
Deputy Showbiz Editor

ROLLING Stone Keith Richards is due to have his skull drilled after suffering a brain haemorrhage falling from a palm tree, The Sun can reveal.

The rock wildman, 62, has been told by doctors he needs to have blood drained from his brain after bashing his head in the tumble in Fiji last week.

Keith was originally diagnosed with mild concussion.

But he continued to complain of dull headaches and tests revealed a small haemorrhage.

A close pal said last night: ?Keith?s accident has turned out worse than everybody feared.

?After the tests doctors decided they should drain his skull. It has given him a scare but he has been told that he should make a full recovery once it?s done.?

Keith had the accident as he and bandmate Ronnie Wood tried to climb the tree to get coconuts at a luxury resort.

Keith lost his grip and plunged back down to the ground.

The guitar hero was flown 1,500 miles to Ascot Hospital in Auckland, New Zealand, with his wife Patti Hansen for tests.

Holy. Mother. Of. Screaming. Jesus.

What I wouldn't give to be at these shows...

Mind you... isn't Slash supposed to be good mates with Ronnie Wood?

...nah...

SG

These will be fanfuckintastic shows. The juggernate has started, and on the books doesnt look like it wil stop any time soon. Damn wish I good see those shows! YES audio indeed for that!

thats pretty fucking sweet!! guns and the stones it would be if axl joind the stones and sang a song or 2 with them.

Fuck yeah! 8)

Fuck i hope Keith RiffHard can make a full recovery... Thats too bad.... good shows tho...

me too see you there  8) 8)

You know what, I'm gonna be there. It's only a 30 minutes ride  :beer:

You got it man!

This is probably the most exciting thing for me since GN'R came back in 02'.? The Stones are the greatest Rock N' Roll band ever and the Guns are going to play with them.? I think this is a very smart marketing strategy by the Guns team and this will get diff. people excited for the new Guns album.? I am so happy they decided to? do this.? I really hope someone tapes it because I will get it immediatly.? This would be a real cool time for some of the old Guns to come back into the picture.? I hope that they decide to do more than 2 shows with them.? This is a great oppurtunitiy for GN'R especially when they will be playing in Europe in front of huge audiences.? I would love to go to one of these shows! : ok: : ok: : ok: : ok: : ok: :peace:

I'm amazed that The Stones are interested in having "new" GNR play with them.

I would have bet my house that they would only agree to the classic GNR.

I'm shocked.  :confused:

we don`t know who`s going to play there : ok:

One things for sure...

Slash will hear about this and damn wish he was still a gunner...  :smoking:

 IT WAS JUST  ON CNN.   GUNS N' ROSES  WILL OPEN FOR THE STONES  .   GUNS N' ROSES NEWS IS GOING TO GET HOT  THIS MONTH.

Huge news. Huge.

I am so proud to be a GnR fan now. i really wish the Stones/GnR shows would come to the US. Axl could garner alot of brownie points with the promoters if he worked the country with Keith and Mick.

I do hope that Keith is ok after his fall and hemorrage. Scary stuff.

This tour are growing bigger and bigger... ;D

Any chance of Axl performing with them...?

i guess axl`s taking his comeback seriously this time...

2006 will be the year of gnr!!!

my thoughts exactly - are the stones going to want this new Guns? They were champions of the original line up

Hope that GNR is distributed a semi decent amount of time (like an hour and 30 minutes). People gotta hear themselves some Chinese Democracy. Is strictly JUST a GNR and Stones duel bill with no other bands?

Metallica played between an hour to 1:30 minutes when they opened for the Rolling Stones in San Francisco.

Orale, lets see for how long they play...

The Crue Also opened for them... Crue, Tallica, GnR... wow....

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Guns N' Roses will open two German dates on the Rolling Stones' upcoming tour of Europe, a role they last performed during the Stones' 1989 U.S. trek.

According to the Rolling Stones' Web site, the Axl Rose-rose led rock band will warm up the crowd in Nuremburg on July 10 and Leipzig on July 12.

The tour is still set to begin on May 27 in Barcelona, despite continued speculation about guitarist Keith Richards' health. He was released from a New Zealand hospital earlier this week after suffering mild concussion when he reportedly fell from a tree in Fiji. News reports have said he may require surgery, but the band's publicist said on Wednesday that Richards was fine and his condition was being monitored.

The original Guns N' Roses lineup -- Rose is now the only veteran -- opened for the Stones during their four-night stint at the Los Angeles Coliseum in October 1989. One of their sets was highlighted by a Rose monologue in defence of racist and homophobic lyrics in the song "One in a Million," a bitter complaint that too many people in the Guns organisation were "dancing with Mr. Brownstone" (i.e. doing drugs), and a pledge that he would never perform again with Guns N' Roses.

Wonder what time The Stones will end up taking the stage with GnR opening for them :hihi: 

they may not go on till well after midnight

This sounds like to me another sign pointing to a reunion.  Ronnie did Jam with VR last year as well.  But anyway, the Stones are old school and could get just about anyone they wanted to open for them.  I think they want Slash and Izzy there too.  Slash is good buds with Keith.  Keith is Izzy's idol.  The stones are rock n roll.  Classic guns too were Rock N Roll.  Anything short of the original band in this situation is a shame.

I do not agree. Why does everything has turn into a 'reunion' discussion? Absolutely nothing points to a 'reunion'. And please don't go into that 'new guns n roses not beeing 'rock and roll'. Your definition of rock and roll I find a little, shall I say outdated.  :D

I do remember Mick offering GnR this slot a few years ago if the original lineup would agree to reform. I have not read any of the band's opinion on the new GnR, but I assume the draw is more important.

This promises to be a great series of shows.

Don't Try Me, why can't you think it is possible for some one off shows?  Mick said years ago he would only do if it was the original band.  All the members of the UYI GNR will be in Europe anyway except Matt and Slash so far.  Who is to say they won't be.  I just think all of this is more then coincidence.  You just don't ever hear much tying the nu guys in much.  Why are you so anti reunion.  I really don't care, just noting that way too many things are lining up for a reunion. You can't give me any proof to support your argument.  New GNR is rock, but there is no Roll.  Its great, but there is no sex, groove to it that much.  Original GNR was influenced a great deal by the Stones.  The nuGNR is more influenced by NIN and Queesnryche.

Thats why one of their guitarists is a HUGE stones fan? The reason Richard is in guns was because of how he played stray cat blues by the stones. So Your wrong in saying that this band isnt influenced by the stones.

Maybe someone from the GN'R side slipped Mick. Keith, Ronnie etc. an advance copy of Chinese Democracy and their view of the new band has changed....

It is already fact pretty much that a grande reunion was planned for this summer.  So why is it totally scratched in your mind?  What songs did Fortus write for GNR?  None.  Axl is the main songwriter. So what does Stray Cats have do to with anything?  They just liked his guitar style.  Matt hangs with Axl a few weeks ago.  Matt with Slash last week.  Izzy had dinner and talks to Axl regularly.  Slash goes to Axl's house. 

how come we don't hear shit about Fortus and Axl, Tommy and Axl, Brain and Axl?  Cause they are seeing him.  THere are no articles about them hanging out together.  Apparently he just hangs out with models and old band mates on occasion.

You're right as a general matter.... I do think Axl and Fortus hung out together at the Victoria Secret show in NYC in February. Tommy Stinson? That fucker's so busy right now he probably has ZERO time to hang out with anybody or even remember what bands he's actually in . I wouldn't be surprised he kicks into "Runaway Train" at the start of 5/12 show.

Gnr + R.Stone in Germany ???????
 :beer:The World Cup will stop to people see it !!!

Richard Fortus wrote some guitar parts for the album. Just listen to The Blues, when he joined the band, he added his own touch (outro solo).
He is also definitely a strong bluesy based guitar player in my opinion. He is a versatile player and can play lots of music, but he does have the bluesy/rock edge. I think his main influences are The New York Dolls, Jeff Beck, BB King etc... and he also used to play Jazz Music I think. He likes playing with a Gibson ES 335 wich is one of the most famous Blues and Jazz guitar.
Saying the "new GNR (2006 version) is not "Rock n' Roll" is false. I think they will be more "Rock n' Roll" than what they were in 2002 because the heavy-metal futurist Shredder is gone. So I guess the guitar solos will be played differently, more in the vain of the good old Classic Rock style, updated for 2006. I'm sure people will like it very much.

If you Like Richard Fortus, check also a guy called Dreggen (Backyard Babie, ex The Hellacopters), He is also very good and has an Epiphone ES 335 Signature. They kinda have the same style (energetic onstage, aggressive Rock mixed with a Bluesy touch in their playing)

Anyway, can't wait to hear the "Nightrain" 2006 version? : ok:

I hope Izzy will join the new band for a couple of appearances, especially with the Rolling Stones, 1989 is right around the corner? :peace:

According to who?  ::)

You think the new band is influenced by Queensryche?  Well, I own every release both Queensryche and GN'R have ever had, and I have to disagree.  I don't see any similarities between this band and Ryche.  NIN, yes.  Ryche, no.

Ali

This is fucking awesome! If Izzy really is back, it's gonna be a fucking great show. I wonder if this means the band'll be playing more from the '89 era, and get closer to that sound. Can you imagine a Rose/Jagger duet? Fuckin' a. Just think: if Keith Richards is under the knife for his supposed hemmorhage, then maybe Izzy will fill in for a bit. Looking forward to the reviews. And, hopefully before that, an official press release.

Kevin Miller

Go listen to TWAT. Very heavy Queensryche influence. Sounds like it could have been on Empire.

James, I highlighted all of your thoughts in my responses in regards to the reunion and Queensrych sound.  Have any of you heard the new album by Queensryche?  I saw their new video.  There are a lot of question marks for there to be a show only a few days a way.  I can't wait to find out what happens. 

Great news! Will the Stones be doing a pro-shot, you think? We might actually get decent video from this. Or better yet, a live feed. : ok:

again with the same thing..
dude you are boring...!
BH rules you suck!

I hope it's only Izzy that shows up


Izzy fucking rules

this comeback is going to be so fucking huge, finally all these years of waiting will pay off!! 1 more week of waiting and the ball starts rolling for real, and what's one more week of waiting for gnr fans?! literally nothing! :P thanx axl! :beer:

I understand where you're coming form. I have the same feeling. I find it too weird that Axl is seen with Izzy, Matt and Axl patch things up, Duff toures Europe the same months as Axl even playing Donnington, Slash is now managed by Sanctuary and VR is doing everything but recording the new album. I'm not sure, it could all be coincidence but I find it a bit suspicious.

where ever did it say izzy has dinner with axl and speaks to him regularly? :o
i must've missed that part!

Why don't I think it's possible? The short answer: history, Axl repeatetly stated that a reunion is unlikely to happen. Remember rio 2001? Remember some of the 2002 shows were he talked about some of his former friends? I think those are pretty strong indications.

And about the new guys, the do rock. Just give em a chance. I think I know why you think that the old guys are rock and roll. That is because the are a novelty right? And the new guys, not just yet. No album out? Just give the new dudes a chance.

And about the influences you mentioned for the new band, no way. I don't exactly hear NIN, well maybe little little very little bits and pieces which you could subscribe to a Reznor. Perhaps, perhaps not. But Queesnryche? haha. Not exactly no.

I'm not anti reunion. But it wouldn't exactly be fair to the new guns who stick with Axl for this long don't ya think? Imagine Slash coming back for one show off? That would hurt the new guys for sure man. People at the other shows might whyne / ask for Slash a little bit more. "Why was Slash at that show? and not at ours?  >:( " Can you imagine that?? That would be a knife in the back of the new guys.

About Izzy, well yes. I could perhaps see him coming back, maybe for the whole tour. Maybe for a few shows. Like someone already said in a funny way: Izzy is like Switserland, always neutral.

But Slash? with all those lawsuits and shit happened in the past? The last Little Rolling Stone interview? how much clearer do you need to get that there ain't gonna be Slash?

That doensn't mean I'm anti-old Gn'R at all. I'm just trying to get some logic in hear rather then novelty thoughts.

That is a post I can really agree with, as a long time gunner, since the beginiing, I feel the same, and after seeing these guys back in 2002, at MSG and beyond seeing individual memebers and actually metting them and hanging out talking .

There is no way these guys (Richard, Tommy , Dizzy, . .that I met dont ahve thier heart in this, and are excited about this finally happening).


Izzy is like the wild card, hes always kinda been there and sometimes you cant deny the past as far as friendships. we all argue with people we care about , but thier bond goes way back. Liek in 93 Izzy filling in for a few gigs. I would be estatic if he did a few appearances , just for the hell of it.

Some people in life think that if somethings goes wrong or a view wasnt met by similar, and estangement ensued that thats the end all. I never subscribed to that belief. BUt then again who does.

At then end ofthe day we have 1 week from today to see what is goin on.!

i don`t think so.... i`m from germany and i don`t even know when it`s going to take place :hihi:

i`m a bad example though, since i`m not really interested in football (except for the german team a little...)

anyways... i think the shows are allready almost sold out.


history? if that`s what you base your opinion on, you should reread the 2006 part of it.....

-slash visited axl in late 2005
-slash and axl talked nicely about each other
-axl talked to izzy and had dinner with him
-axl met matt in NYC
-ross halfin posted about a reunion in his blog
-classicrock had an article that had independent sources claiming a reunion was planned. they   didn`t get their info on messageboards by the way
-several comments by axl suggest a reunion
-richard`s site doesn`t list the shows anymore

there are even more points, which i unfortunately forgot about..... i once listed them in a thread...


my point is: ( and i won`t repeat it any further...)

everything is possible. i don`t give a shit what any insider says...

axl is the man to tell us what`s going on : ok:

http://www.nme.com/news/guns-n-roses/22981

Guns N' Roses to join the Stones!
The two heavyweight acts team up for shows
Comeback rockers Guns n' Roses are to roll the clock back by supporting The Rolling Stones on their upcoming European tour.

Axl Rose's mob, who supported the Stones on some dates of their 1989 'Steel Wheels' tour of the US, will play at two German shows - Nuremburg on July 10 and Leipzig on July 12.

The tour is still set to begin on May 27 in Barcelona's Stadi Olimpic Montjuic, after guitarist Keith Richards injured himself in a bizarre accident in Fiji last week (April 27).

Initial reports indicated he had suffered "mild concussion" after falling out of a tree at an exclusive resort. Later reports said he had suffered a brain haemorrhage, though this has not been confimed.

The new line-up of Guns n' Roses are playing a number of dates this summer, including a slot at the Download Festival at Donington Park on June 11. Their long-awaited new album 'Chinese Democracy' is tipped to finally make an appearance this year.

This is personally the greatest news for me so far! I will be back from Brasil just in time for the final match of the worldcup and the next day it is guns n fuckin roses and the stones....How much greater could things be?

Hey, just got back from a short trip to Barcelona (without internet an entire week - a real challenge  ;D) This is a nice surprise. I'm gonna try and get some tix. I alreay have tix to the Stones show in the Netherlands this summer. This might be a nice little addition  : ok:

The news that Guns N' Roses is supporting The Rolling Stones was all over the radio today. Even my fucking little newspaper had this article:
(http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/8684/axl1ze.jpg)
Here's the translation:

It's kind of funny that the article is basically about Rolling Stones going on tour but the headline and the picture is about axl rose.

The media speak about GNR in your country, you are lucky!
Here in France, there is nothing :-[
The Paris show is far from beeing sold-out, the tickets went on sale 1 month and a half ago, and there are still thousands tickets left...
There is no promotion, they get no media attention, not even a single word in the press? :no:

Thank you for posting, lots of zeros and ones. Yes, it is funny that GNR gets more attention as the 'opening act' than the Stones. Maybe they can switch places, considering Axl doesn't like to get on stage early  :hihi:

According to http://www.ticketnet.fr, there's 1143 tickets left.

It'll be sold out soon enough.

ticketnet is one of the ticketsellers. There is also Francebilleterie. There are not 1143 tickets left, but much more. Seeveral thousands in fact.? 1143 are just the figures for ticketnet.

where did you get your global figures???

i don`t think the tickets could sell out at one ticket outlet, while others still have them available....

I hope it begins to sell alot better...

I think this go around, the most devasting thing to Axl would be to play in a half-empty arena once again, ala-2002 :-\

Nesquick, quick question:  why do you feel it's appropriate to make the exact same post in every thread? Is the quoted post, by you, your signature line?  In the GNR Tour section, all you do is complain and moan, and state that tickets are not selling.  From what I have gathered, the Paris show will be sold out in less than a week?  What gives? 

- I don't have a signature, what are you talking about?
- Yesterday, there were about 650 tickets left on ticketnet, today there are around 1150 tickets left. It seems there are still lots of tickets left. They added tickets. It's strange. The promoters still don't want to reveal the official figures, wich is pretty surprising.
- There are plenty of tickets available on Francebilleterie, or fnac etc...
- When I "complain" or "moan", it's not against GNR or Axl or the management, I'm a fan, I support them come on it's my favourite band of all time,? it's against the french promoters (Nousproduction). They don't promote this show at all...and it piss me off. GNR deserve a better media coverage.
- And yes, the general media don't talk about GNR here, I know it's different in the other countries, you have articles in your media, they speak about GNR again, here, still nothing. I just don't understand why everything seems much much slower here than in the other European countries. That's what against I "complain", it's not against GNR at all, it's against the lack of buzz and exitation here. people seem asleept.

Cheer up a little! ?Your name does not happen to be Albert Camus?

it`s not that gnr is hyped in the press in germany.......

and well.... you don`t have any global figures, so stop bitching about "thousands of tickets" left....

ANYWAY,

I hope the 12th May + Rock in Rio +the Rolling Stones opening shows will give a turbo to the sales.
Bercy is a wonderfull, wonderfull place when it's sold out? : ok:

I'm going to fuckin Nurnberg...  :beer:

Hm, wanted to make a very bad joke about nazi moderator going to Germany, but that would be in very bad taste.  :no: I am going to at least one of these shows for sure. Hope I can go to both, they will be amazing. This news really made my day!  :peace:

 : ok:

Want to know what people away from GnR message boards are thinking about GnR?

http://uselessjunk.net/viewtopic.php?t=145299

Richards Avoids Brain Drain

The Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards will not undergo surgery following his mysterious stay in a New Zealand hospital, according to the band's spokesperson. The 62-year-old was airlifted to Auckland's Ascot hospital suffering concussion after reportedly falling out of a palm tree while on holiday in Fiji last week. But contrary reports claimed Richards sustained his injuries in a jet-ski accident. Spokeswoman Fran Curtis would not disclose how the rocker was hurt, but she dispelled reports Richards would require surgery to drain blood from his skull. She added, "He's feeling good and in good spirits." Richards is said to be looking forward to the European leg of the tour which kicks off later this month in Barcelona, Spain.

Source: Movie & TV News @ IMDb.com

Does anybody know if the Stones still ask members of the opening acts to guest on their songs live?

Personally, the idea of GNR opening for anyone disappoints me, but then, the GNR 'brand' has continually left me disappointed over recent years. It's all turned a bit cabaret, I hope the live shows make up for it.

Just ordered my tickets, GnR and Rolling Stones in my hometown  : ok:

That's fuckin cool they are going to do two shows. I'm just very shocked that Axl would open for anyone now. I wonder if more fans at the show will be Guns N' Roses or Rolling Stone fans? They might add more show now in July and some in August now. Then come back to the US in September for a tour and have a date set for the cd also in the fall.

That would be super sweet, and also, a very good idea.

I wouldn't be too surprised if that actually happend.

As for the Rolling Stones thing, I think it's fucking awesome.

Do u think this thing bout Keith will stop the tour coz hes crook? I hope they keep going but if hes unwell then theres not alot that can be done.


 :peace:

Just passing on what I heard.
On the radio this morning (May 8th), they're reporting that Keith DID have surgery to remove a blood clot from his brain and that he almost bought the farm. BUT THERE HAS BEEN NO CONFIRMATION OF THIS FROM STONES CAMP.? And they're still supposedly playing in Spain on May 27.

The Stones have postponed their European tour due to Keef's surgery.

Re-scheduled dates will be announced in due course.

true actually...

not sure if that`s the case with the german shows though-....

http://rollingstones.com/news/news.php?uid=539

edit:  well it`s not the case

I think that they'll just re-schedule the shows that were before June.

If the tour starts in June, they can't cancel the Germany shows in July, where GN'R are playing, they'll lose lots of ticket sales...

Christos, I don't know if this is off-topic, but anyway.

How much did you have to pay for the ticket(s) for the Germany show with shipping to Greece?

160something euros.

Let's talk about this after the Nurnberg show is confirmed for the same date as it was, cause another show moved (after the madrid fiasco) would seriously injure my ass permanently.

i`m pretty confident those dates will stay...  i mean why should they cancel them if the tour starts in june?

i guess you won?t have to taker another reschedule christos : ok:

Well, the thing is that I can't reschedule anything. No more money left.

All spent wisely on GN'R On Tour...  : ok:

Yesterday i read in a very respectable UK newsparer that the Rolling Stone Tour will be cancelled cause Keith Ritchards had an emergency operation in the brain....He fell down from a tree and after few days he was feeling Headaches & dizziness...Then he was diagnosed with a thrombosis in one of his brain artery/vein and they had to emergency operate...It was a serious operation....

Anyone heard anything about that??

yeah its been all over the web,this is off therockradio.com

Keith Richards has skull surgery

Keith Richards underwent surgery in New Zealand yesterday (May 8th), to relieve headaches he's suffered from since his fall late last month while on vacation in Fiji. Reuters reported that after being observed by doctors in Auckland, Richard was initially feeling well until he began complaining of headaches. Richards' publicist wouldn't confirm the severity of his condition until after the surgery took place.

A spokesman for the guitarist issued a statement saying that, quote, "After complaining of headaches (on Sunday), doctors thought it prudent to move ahead with a small operation to remove the pressure. The operation was a complete success and Keith is already up and talking with his family today. He will need a few weeks' recuperation."

Various reports have stated that Richards may have injured himself either by falling while climbing a palm tree or during a jet ski accident.

No specifics on exactly what type of surgery he actually underwent, but a report by the New Zealand Herald stated that procedure was "to relieve a subdural haematoma or blood clot on the brain." The operation usually involves drilling a hole in the back of the skull to drain either a clot or blood that is resting on the brain.

Richard's post-op recuperation will delay the Rolling Stones' upcoming European tour, which was scheduled to kick off on May 27th in Barcelona. New dates are being scheduled for June and an announcement is expected to be announced shortly.

The European leg of the tour will go ahead but its start will be delayed to June, the publicists said. The band had been due to open the tour on May 27 in Barcelona and May 29 in Madrid.

That's from CNN...for what it's worth...

From what I've read, if Keith will be able to tour in June, only a few dates will change.

It's logistically stupid to change a whole tour, when you can re-schedule just a few dates.

didnt GNR move the madrid date forward due to the stones tour schedule?

 :hihi: i don`t know man.....

and well....  the tour will start in june. the german dates won`t be cancelled. i think some people should read the last two posts of a thread before they post themselves : ok:

The latest rumors ... which are of course denied by the Stones camp ... is that Keith has needed several operations and that he has suffered brain damage. ?:'(

Fuck the tour ... just be well Keith!!!

from rollingstones.com...

"They are known as one of the most controversial and popular American Rock Bands of all times. They have sold over 85 million albums. They are the only act to hold the top two album spots in both the UK and US on the week of releasing both records with Use Your Illusion I and Use Your Illusion II. Their album, "Appetite for Destruction" holds titles for the Greatest Guitar Album Ever (Total Guitar, June 2003), Greatest Metal Album (Spin, July 2003), #1 Essential Hard Rock Album (Kerrang! March 2004), and their rock-anthem November Rain holds the #1 spot on Dutch Veronica radio for the number 1 song (December 2004). They are Guns N' Roses and they will be appearing at 2 shows only as part of The Rolling Stones A Bigger Bang tour this summer."

Does Mick know it's just Axl...?  :nervous:

If not they are in for a surprise...

no....   mick doesn`t know who`s going to play with them ::)


pretty useless thread : ok:

i'm really getting sick of some of the topics on this board. fucking useless!

Jagger's a control freak, of course he knows. He probably even knows who the mystery guitar player is.

Ditto to all the post here save the opening one.

Surely they must know it's not just Axl.

Stones' European tour put back

Wednesday May 24 16:28 AEST

The European leg of the Rolling Stones' world tour has been put back by two to three weeks because of guitarist Keith Richard's brain operation, the band's spokesman in London said.

Bernard Doherty, of LD Publicity, said the tour had been put back "by two to three weeks" but refused to confirm reports that the band's two Paris concerts, scheduled for June 3 and July 2, had been postponed indefinitely.

"The Rolling Stones will announce their European tour in the next few days. That's all I'm prepared to say," he said.

"We said when Keith Richards hit his head that the tour would be set back by two to three weeks, but the actual dates and when it starts I can't say."

The European leg of the Stones' "A Bigger Bang" tour had been due to start on May 27 in Barcelona, but has been the subject of speculation following Richards' fall from a palm tree on the South Pacific Ocean island of Fiji.

Richards, 62, was hospitalised in New Zealand with a brain haemhorrage and had to undergo an operation to drain blood from his brain.

He has now left hospital and is in the United States, according to a statement released on his behalf on Monday.

"He is feeling great, happy to be home and looking forward to getting back on the road with the Rolling Stones next month," tour promoter Michael Cohl said.

www.ninemsn.com.au

i don`t think this has any effect on the german dates....

E is reporting the dates with GNR will not be affected:

http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,19106,00.html

New dates for those cities will likely be revealed in the coming days. Nuremburg, Germany, the first city not to have its Stones outing disturbed by the postponement, is now shaping up to be the likely site of the tour launch on July 10. Should that date hold, the new itinerary won't affect the Stones' highly-anticipated reunion with Guns N' Roses, who are set to open Nuremburg and their July 12 stop in Leipzig.

the Stones won't be able to play so GnR will have to play a 4 or 5hr set :hihi:

GN'R are playing the 10th (seems to be RS first tour date..), so essentially they will kick-off the whole tour! Great!  : ok:

So far the stones have cancelled 15 European dates all the way up to July 5th.

Keith needs time to recover from the surgery he had to releive the pressure from mild brain swelling.

the list of cancelled dates began as 8 shows and has now climbed to 15, chomping at the GN'R shows heels.

who cares about Keith Richards, GN'R can sell out the shows anyway :hihi: