Here Today... Gone To Hell!

As most people know Wal-Mart refuses to sell music with explicit lyrics. They say this policy is based on "family values" and such... If that's the case, why do they sell movies that are rated R? If they were really concerned about selling family safe products would they sell Final Destination 3 and Brokeback Mountain? Why don't they just change their policy to not sell CDs with explicit lyrics to anyone under 16? or 18? or whatever. Anyway, that has always pissed me off.

Raven

Yeah I think that is dumb they don't sell cd's with explict lyrics. I still say if you don't like it don't buy it and just have to watch what their kids buy. Oh I think I heard on the news last week that some or maybe all Wal-Mart were not going to sell Brokeback Mountain.  :-\

I think it has to do with sales. They know that the majority of music buyers are under 18. So they want to make sure that they can sell all those cds. Having the explicit label may hinder the sales process in their minds. I think that's the reason for selling the music pre-edited.

Actually, I think it's just the opposite. I think more kids would buy music from Wal-Mart if they had both edited and explicit music to choose from (as most big stores do). Like I said, they can get around their "moral" dilemma by putting age restrictions on the purchase of CDs with explicit lyrics. They already check ID of people that buy DVDs that are rated R. As for Brokeback Mountain, I haven't heard if certain stores will be selling it or not. Their website has it for sale though.

Raven

Well they (kids under 18) wouldn't be able to purchase those explicit cds even if the store provided them.

It's not a moral dilemma , it's a money issue. Their current system seems to be very profitable, so I don't see them changing it.

I don't agree with it. They're a corporate company, so it's to be expected.

The walmart here sells appetite and its not censored or anything...

They get pissy about naughty words yet break labor laws, and take out peasant insurance on their workers. ::)

Yeah, I remember buying Live Era from Wal-Mart years ago and being so pissed because everything Axl says is censored?:crying:

So they would sell guns, not the band but actual guns and not cds, compact discs not the other disc.

It was, actually, because of pressure from the government (or, rather, certain members of our governemnt) that was the original impetus behind the change in policy.  They "bowed" to the pressure and forged some sort of agreement to not carry the explicit lyrics versions of CD's.  No such pressure has really come to bear in relation to DVD's (with the exception of the occasional outcry over specific movies like The Last Temptation of Chirst, Brokeback Mountain, and some others).

I've always wondered, but have no proof, if Wal-Mart brokered some of the rather favorable legislation that's gone their way as part of that agreement.

They're selling Brokeback Mountain over at my Wal-Mart...

But, it is pretty stupid they some/all aren't selling cd's with explicit lyrics.

They don't even sell metal. Not even Nightwish, Power Quest, or other happy bands. I couldn't even find a single punk album at the Wal-Mart where I live. Blink 182 doesn't count. They have LOADS of country music, though. It's all country, gospel, and radio friendly pop.

I took my gift certificate (only reason why I was there) and bought a copy of Doom 3 instead. Hmm...

No, I know they sell it.

What I meant was that Walmart doesn't see the complaining/pressure about selling R rated DVD's that they saw when selling the explicit lyrics. ?Instead, they see complaining (usually from specific special interest groups) about selling specific DVD's, but they don't bow to those complaints.

Sorry...I wasn't as clear as I should have been.

Some of us may even be old enough to remember watching Dee Snider fight Tipper on the 7 O'clock news........(cough cough)

No Problem, batman.

I will now set the coordinates for the next wave of missles to launch at your local wal-mart store.

Wal Mart is the great destroyer of small town America.  I would rather spend dollars more on items than to go there to save money on the backs of the poor. A few years ago they wouldn't sell a Sheryl Crow disc that had zero profanity but she criticized them for selling guns.  They have bowed to pressure from the Christian Right.  Go toTarget or K Mart they don't censor.

That's just fucking eerie.

That was the PRECISE image that was floating through my head when I posted.....

SPOOOOOOOKKKKKKKYYYYYYY!!

No need, no need.

We shop at WalMart every week.

Cheap diapers, among other things.

I'm not one of those that is a huge WalMark hater.  I shop there without any problems.  They're a reflection of a true capitalistic business at work, so I have a hard time taking their business practices as personal insults.  It's hard to blame THEM for offering goods people want at prices they want to pay...that's WalMart's sole purpose, after all.  They're a corporation.  They make money...

Meet me for shuffleboard around 4:30, before the early bird dinner.

I am not a big fan of walmart, but I have to wonder how much the keep market prices down as a whole.

Since I'm Mr. Liberal, I'm not a big fan of Wal-Mart's business practices.  Specifically, how they treat their employees and the like.  Because of this, I shop at Target for 'that kind' of shopping.  I realize that, overall, Target's not much better - but at least they give that 1% of sales back to the local communities (charities and the like) - at least I feel not quite so bad about shopping there.

Honestly and truly, though - they are corporations.. who's primary goal is to make money for their stockholders.  I don't kid myself into thinking that shopping at Target has brought me closer to Buddha or something.

Oh, and yeah, I remember that Tipper / Dee Snider thing, too.  Getting old(er) sucks.

-darknemus

They seriously ID people ib The States for buying a Parental Advisory album, or an R-Rated movie?

Ive never heard of, or seen that practice in place here in Canada... :-\

They IDed me once for buying a protein supplement. Can you imagine?  :hihi:

IDing kids for cigarettes is one thing, but a protein supplement is a whole other... :rofl:

Yeah, I don't disagree. ?I'm not the hugest fan of some of their internal HR policies (my wife worked there for awhile as a SIS manager), but I, like you, recognize the nature of the beast. ?And their propensity to sort of "force" (indirectly, of course) companies to outsource production overseas to keep costs down so they can SELL goods to walmart and survive is a bit annoying.

Their practices are well publicized but don't seem to deter enough people from shopping there to have much effect. ?That's pretty much the corporate model of capitalism working at it's peak. ?"Do exactly as much as you can to increase your business advantage and not break the laws and piss off your consumers so much they stop buying shit from you". ?They all do it. ?WalMart just seems to be exceptionally good at it. ?They don't do anything that offends me enough to boycott them, so...I'll take the cheap diapers, wipes, and assorted other sundries that are less expensive there than anywhere else on the freaking planet.....and quietly walk out the door with them. :)

Oh, and WalMart gives a % of their sales back to the local communities too. ?At least our local WalMart does (and the others I've been to). ?Usually a big ole board somewhere within the store crowing loudly about the amount of money they've given since they've opened, and who their largest contributions have been to. ?That kinda stuff always did make me laugh....sorta like buying back good karma from the universe or something...I mean, it's not like they don't write it all off in taxes anyway.

R-Rated movie, if you look remotely close to 17? Yup.? At least it's company policy at Walmart to do so (and lots of other corporate stores).? Same with MA and even, I think, the next level down (who's name/symbol escapes me) video games.? Now, what the level of compliance is on actually carding people is debateable.? Various studies and TV exposes would lead you to believe it's pretty mediocre.

Not sure on the CD's.  I've never been carded.....but then again, I'm 32 and the labels went on when I was 16-ish (not exactly sure)....

They ID'd me the other day for buying Pseudophed (the real stuff, not the "new" version).  Had to show my license, and they entered the number into the register....I would assume to track how much of the stuff I was buying to make sure I'm not running a meth lab or something.

Thats common practice in Canada here now too.

I work in a grocery store, and half our medicine supply had to be thrown out or put on clearance before the 30th of last month because it contained that ingredient.

Thank you Tweekers for making us all feel like criminals when we have colds or allergies!

That stuff makes me feel like a tweaker. I practically take off running down the street when I take it.

Wal Mart does the same thing, they give back loads of cash to the communities they are in, much more than Target,?

Wal-Mart gets a bad wrap sometimes...if you want swears in your music, don't shop at Wal Mart...I don't think anythign is wrong with it...