Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Im really liking this new found love of touring GNR has all of a sudden, I hope the dates get announced, Im already working on the bullshit Im going to use to get off work. 200fuckin6 year of the GnR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i wonder who is the promoter?

Merck ?  :o

Hopefully all the US tour dates are in NYC :hihi:

Smart ass. They did pretty good in Chicago, Boston, and Canada as well. They do need an album however.

I like that... ;D

Interesting. That means the dates will HAVE to coincide with the CD release - surely they won't risk touring the US without new product again...   :peace:

OK Fine, we'll share them with Boston, Chicago, LA and Vegas :hihi: but they have tp specnd the rest touring NYC :hihi:

we don't want Axl getting seperation anxiety from his new home ;D

That seems about right.  That would make the most sense out of everything.  Hopefully well be gettin a release date within the next few weeks also. : ok:

YES!!!

Please let it be true. And dont be a stranger from Kentucky! We need Axl too... Hell, I am going to hit several shows anyway. :peace:

they need to visit Mexico . i hope they will included in this next tour

In my opinion he should hit the bigger markets first and make sure they do well there and then after a while after the album is out, go to the smaller cities.  we don't want them to have to cancel any gigs because of poor ticket sales or any other bs!

good idea. i really hope that they are planning to go to mexico and south america as well!

since they are doing such a big European tour, im sure it will be a killer US tour also... And lets hope we have CD by that time..

LiveNation probably.

It would be cool if they would do the Instant Live cds for each show, like KISS did in 2004. That would be cool to get a CD of the show right after you leave.

I am hoping for shows at MSG, NYC, Continental Airlines Arena in East Rutherford, and the Nassau Coliseum in Long Island.

or do like Bruce does and play 10 shows at MSG or Radio City ;D

sounds good to me!!

He should just make all the US shows at Hammerstein, god i love that place,

where ever they are though, i just hope the floor will be GA Standing

i can't wait to see if he'll play philly. and if not, how close to philly he will play.

i would also love a show in AC. the borgata is incredible. ?

They should do small venues9the warfield in San Francisco) at first like hammerstein in New York.  If everything goes well then they should add bigger venues.

I think if they can't play Philly, they'll play Wilkes-Barre. Its about an hour and a half away.

This is tremendous news -

If someone told me in December that in the next 5 months, we'd have 4 new leaks, 4 excellent shows played in NYC, a set tour in Europe, Axl being interviewed by Eddie Trunk, Axl saying that the album would be out in the fall and definitely in 2006, and that they'd be touring the USA again, I'm gonna be one happy fucking pig swimming in his own shit

OF COURSE that's where they'll play!  That's where you live after all ;)

Good stuff.  Cant wait to see them again :smoking:

I saw NIN there last November.  It's a nice little arena, but they had more security and check points there than a federal prison.  Plus they cut off all alcohol sales before NIN even took the stage.

Can someone post "Rumor" beside this title.

It got my hopes up when i first saw the subject.

It will be interesting to see if they come back to Philly. ?I have no problem headed back to NYC though. ?Hopefully there will be more presales. ?It will be weird to have bad seats after being so close at Hammerstein. ?I will always have fond memories of the 2 Hammerstein shows I went to. ?

This is great news...Tickets go on sale earlier and earlier every year...Its insane..Hopefully they come back to Toronto

this is great news :D although im quite shocked no one has yet to think of this

if in fact next week the US tour dates are going to be announced then at RIR axl will say something huge for sure ;)

am i the only one who thinks that? :-X

He still said late fall for release, and for what we can tell the U.S tour starts in september... So Chances are it will still not be released

Yeah. Hopefully they'll tour America as a whole, both South and North. I have friends from Argentina and Brazil that are just dying to see them live.

any one think theyll play michigan?? :beer:

All I ask for is...Air Canada Center in Toronto Canada,and Copps Coliseum in Hamilton Ontario Canada. :drool:

Hello, BankAtlantic Center in Fort Lauderdale, FL.  (Well, hey, I have a connection for tickets there.. so like, yeah, a guy can dream!)

-darknemus

Please Cleveland, and Detroit, here I come again : ok:

That would mean I would be making my own mini tour of the East Coast

C0ma,

The way I see it - you need to make up for lost opportunities.. I'll get you into Ft Laud if it happens.. come on down!

-darknemus

LOUISVILLE/LEXINGTON Kentucky!! Come on Axl I've traveled to Vegas, New York, and Columbus Ohio to see your ass play...so come to me for once man...GN'R 06' takeover baby.

Isn't that the southeast?

Hell yeah. I mean, I will go to wherever to see Axl, but it would be really nice if I didnt have to travel TOO far. An hour and a half drive. Thats what I'm talking about...

Did Axl say the albums coming out in the fall or late fall?

I hope they show CT some love, or else I'll have to trek to NYC or Boston. ?They've played Hartford in the past though so there's a good chance. ?I'd expect a lot of the same cities from 2002 would be on the list.

both

I have a crazy feeling i will be seeing some of you rockin new england folks at the TDBanknorth Garden this fall :yes:

I believe he said fall, but I've also heard December, which would be late fall/early winter.

The canceled in Greenville SC in 02. ?GNR needs to make it right and play there. : ok:

Hell yea...Cleveland here i come...once again!!!

Buffalo Please ! : ok: ya came here on the illusion tour... can't forget that quickly.  :drool:  :drool: that'd make my year.

yea, i am hoping they play all the cancelled dates first in the US but i guess we'll see..........

providence baby!! :beer: last time was 198fuckin7, and i'll try to go to Boston Ct and maybe NY  :smoking: video shoots for me :rofl:

I here ya! I flew out to Las Vegas for the 12.29.01 Hard Rock show. It was amazing!!! Now please come my way.....please!!!!! :yes: : ok:

Strongly seconded.  You could have all the board members at these shows again - this time with plenty of tickets still left for the public onsale.  Merck, are you listening?  : ok:

all 24 at hammerstein ;D

Can your liver handle it? :rofl: You'll be like Otis on Andy Griffith, but you'll be staggering to the Hammerstein instead of the Mayberry Jail. :hihi:

I guess you weren't one of those pinned to the railing up front. Hammerstein on the 12th was unbearable on the floor for many people.

yeah man the Dunk! ;D

count me in lol

yeah it was pretty dangerous up close... the floor can be pretty insane sometimes!

I was in the thick on the 12th, but crushed on the rail on the right side on the 17th. Though I wouldnt have it any other way, the moshing pit was direectly behind me, though I have to say , even 4 days later, my ribs, and muscles I didnt even know existed were still sore!

Please, Please come to Calgary!
Were the second fastest growing city in North America. : ok:

Lots of people I know are hoping for Canadian dates. I'm sure they'll happen. If the album is as successful as we all hope for, I'm sure they'll tour for 2 or 3 years like for UYI. I think Axl said something to that effect before as well. I'd like them to hit all the coasts in Canada and ofcourse down here in Detroit ASAP!

That's why I switched to Mezz 1, although I did almost fall over the rail 3 times since i was dancing and rocking so hard!

I also hope they break the touring up so they have maybe 8-10 shows, a short break and then more shows to give Axl some vocal rest.

FLORIDA BABY! COME TO FLORIDA!
I BET THEY WILL!


AND IF THEY DONT.....ILL BE ON A PLANE!


(i have connections at soundadvice amplitheatre in palm beach!)

Agreed. I still have my tickets.

Hey man, I live in Calgary too. : ok:

I dont think we have a chance in hell of them coming here, but you never know.

I wonder if they'll go back to Vancouver??... :confused:

A US tour would be spectacular, but after the Hammestein shows, arenas and stadiums just won't be the same...

Im wondering what sized venues as well - I guess it will depend on how well CD is received? Or will they start out small?  Arenas seem a tad too large straight off the bat

I really really hope they play Lexington, KY

or Cinnci, OH

Somewhere close for me!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please Axl

who didn't fall off the wagon for those shows :beer:

lol I didn't ;) But I had a fuckin GREAT time! ;D

I'm in Calgary as well. Don't think there's a chance after Axl got booed off the stage here last time. He vowed never to return to Calgary, and I thought that was why they played Edmonchuk instead??? Vancouver, well they'd probably have to play Pacific Coliseum or somewhere's else. I'd go to Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Saskatoon, etc., etc. As long as it's close and cheap to stay at I'm in. Will also go to anywhere in Ontario (friend lives there).

The Rev.

I hope they make back to the states in the fall, Come to Ohio Axl.

I gotta assume there'll be several Ohio stops. I'm guessing at least Columbus and Cleavland plus maybe Cincinatti (sp?). But here in Michigan I'm sure we'll only get one stop at the most!

I doubt it.  I would expect one Ohio show, if any, in Cleveland.  I don't think they are going to make the same mistake they did in 2002--which was booking way too many shows.  If I was GNR, I would hit the largest regional centers.   I think, they should play Philly, Chicago, Seatle, LA, Miami, NY, Dallas, Atlanta, San Francisco, Las Vegas, and Denver.  If they book dates in secondary markets like Minneapolis, KC, Phoenix, St. Louis, it should be in theatres like the Hammerstein--and maybe book two nights in the larger cities of those markets. 

If they tour the U.S., they better ensure that they keep demand high, unlike 2002 where there were too many dates and seats to choose from.  Just my two cents.

When they play the NYC area again they should also consider the PNC in NJ...not as cozy as the Hammerstein but not as overwhelming as MSG...I've seen several concerts there and its always a great night, especially if it's a nice night seeing as its outdoors.  Has a lawn area for SRO....I'll be traveling the entire tri-state area next time  :hihi:

NEW YORK CITY AGAIN!!!!

no dylan. los angeles  : ok:

completely agree here.. keep demand high and don't risk having shows that are way undersold.  play only more major-ish markets first for sure....

In 2002 they had no new goods to promote. Most of the people coming out were people who didn't even know it was a new band or people coming out of curiosity. The size of the tour will depend largly on when CD comes out and how well it's doing at that point I would imagine.

With a cd out, they will do fine in the second tier venues. If Poison can do it, GNR sure as hell can!

Poison doesn't do it alone, and it's a cheap ticket, and billed as a vegas-type/county fair like spectacle.  This year it's Poison, Cinderella, and some other band.  Personally, I would take Cinderella over Poison any day of the week.

Texas will get at least three shows because we are such awesome rocking MFers.

I think they should play major markets first, but start out in smaller venues like the warfield or fillmore in San Francisco.  Once they do well on this first round of dates, and the album(hopefully) is out they can move to the larger venues.

And don't forget you have the Bush guy  : ok:

LOL...yeah, and we all know Cheney's a big guns fan, too!  :hihi:

And Cheney luvs lesbians...just like Axl!!!!!

What are you talking about?  People mentioned that the current Poison/Cinderella, double-headlining tour was selling fairly well.  That's it.

You guys should watch a movie called This is Spinal Tap - that's where Cinderella/Poison are at!

Two points. This isn't 1987-93. Nu-Guns are not neccesarily gonna play arenas b/c of the past glories. It all depends on record sales and fan interest. There is 13 years of lost ground to make up. Things are VERY different now.

Secondly, as i pointed out in another thread, the only bands opening for G'n'R will be those whose record companies are willing to pay the biggest amount of money to 'buy on' to the tour. That's how it works these days. Alas the days of NIN, Soundgarden and Skid Row being invited to tour b/c Guns like them are long gone.

I don't understand why people post non informed shit like this. Most of the Poison/Cinderella Tour is booked into regular size summer tour venues not "second tier" ones. Second, I don't think anyone on the planet regards GNR (in any incarnation) as being on the same level with Cinderella or Poison.

The CD being out has nothing to do with the size venue they play. The success of the CD after it's released will be the deciding factor.

Thats not what I was saying! Sheesh... What I was referring to is where some people were saying GNR should only play major cities like NYC, LA, Chicago, etc. They could play the places that Poison is playing as well, which would include smaller cities. They just couldnt do the whole ampitheatre thing obviously because of the weather. And I certainly wasnt trying to put Poison on the same level as GNR. I really didnt think that I would have to even specifically say that.

Does that make it more clear?

No youre wrong as usual. Sebastian Bach has allready been offered the chance to tour with guns later this year. He said so himself. And he is only on Spitfire records, who arent gonna pay huge $$$ to have him tour. The reason he was offered the spot is because Axl wants him there. Thats pretty plain to see.

Anyone know how much BFMV had to pay for just those four NY shows?

Nothing, they are on one of Sanctuary's European labels.

Dallas, Houston, and PLEASE GOD-- Wichita Falls.  I know there's no way in hell the latter will happen, but I can dream, can't I?

As usual? Please direct me to any previous points where i've been proven wrong... ?

Baz says a lot of things, he's a well known motormouth. Show me the CONFIRMED dates when the tour is announced then i will gladly concede that point. However, IF Baz and his band open for Axl it will most likely be in lesser markets or his home country,Canada, or as part of a three band bill. There is no reason why any major act would clammer to take Baz on an extended tour - as you stated yourself he can't even get a major record deal these days - he's a nostalgia act now. I saw him live in the UK last year in a three quarters empty theatre and the music was dated and the show was cheesy. Every dog has its day he had his. ?:yes:

Based on the 2002 tour, GnR can fill an arena in major markets (Chicago, NY, Boston, Toronto, Philadelphia, and probably LA, Atlanta, SF, Dallas, etc) and probably need to play 5,000-to-8,000 seaters in so-called secondary markets (which include Seattle, Fargo, Boise, etc.).  If the album lands with any success, they could fill arenas in all markets.  But it doesn't look like the album will drop before the US tour begins in September-ish.

Whats this Probably bullshit.

With all do respect, the show that matters most is the GNR homecomming in L Fucking A.

dude that?s actually the point chineseblues tried to make :hihi:

axl wants him on that tour. it`s not about his succes : ok:

i guess you`ll see some other opening bands though...

I just hope GNR plays all the major  markets and makes it through the entire tour this time so I don't miss out like in 2002.

Would you consider Florida a major market? :nervous:

First step (and it is a big step!) is to make all the Euro dates. Any talk of a US Tour is very premature in my opinion. :P

true in a sense..

but also, i would bet my life on a US tour..

this is there comeback tour

this is the chinese democracy tour

this is the gnr revolultion baby

plus they did anounce there cali show and accordign to this thread, the dates are in the works and will be announced shortly :P

WHOOPS! Sorry. I completely missed your point. Understood now and well taken.

I wish they would stop adding all these fucking Euro dates so they can hurry up and get back to the states so the can play more NYC dates :hihi:

Cool beans man!  :beer:

I gotta hope that the date they added September 23 in California is the start of our fall North American dates!

screw nyc!(j/k) it's other people's turn now(n/k).

Orlando is, thats all.

However I'm guessing West Palm - Sound Advice Amphitheater
 and the Amphitheater near the Hard Rock Casino in Tampa

well ive got an 'in' with people at sound advice.. so lets hope they play there

Lets hope thats it, because other than the Hard Rock the indoor venues here sound like shit. If CD is released before any possible shows, the Hard Rock will be too small.

There's alot of places over that way in both Tampa and Clearwater they could play. I would imagine Miami will get a show too.

I hope not because acoustics are crap at the American Airlines Arena, same for the whatever their calling the Hockey arena in Sunrise. Hard Rock would be perfect but probably too small at 5,000 seats. They were going to play Sound Advice in 2002 so if Clear Channel sponsors the tour it is the most likely choice as they own that facility. Sound is great there, would be an excellent choice.

This tour will be a complete fucking joke if Chinese Democracy isn't out at least a couple of months before it starts.

Well then I guess we'd better hope for CD to come out at the begining of September or August since it looks like they'll be back on our soil in late September.

What about Montreal?  :'(

I'm sure they'll play there too. I'm kidna hoping for a Toronto show cuz I've always wanted to see that city too so it'd be a great reason to go.

once the GUNNERS get back to the US, there is gonna be so much hype and excitement, if indeed the show Sept 23rd is the start of the Us tour, its probably a safe bet that CD will be out by then, or at the very least a few weeks after, seeing that show is more of a festival show, it could very well be "and end of the summer festival tour", and the official US tour may start up in Oct. Nov. I guess it all depends on the momentum that has build by then. BUT CD will be out for the US tour. And then its a whole new ballgame, and setlist!

Im pretty sure they will play Toronto. In 2002 it was one of the shows that was almost completely sold out.

the timing is looking good for a CD release in Sept-Oct. Im certain the US tour will coincide with the release? ? ? ? ?: ok:

never say never, after playing "used to love her" and "you're crazy" acoustic i don't rule anything out anymore ;D
however, being that the US audicence is a bit harsher than the europe one, this increases the chances of CD arriving soon in my opinion 8)

And other than MSG most likely the best performance.