Here Today... Gone To Hell!

in 2001, he was the man who saved the band, in 2002, axl said that huge is not for touring, and we havent heard anything about him ever since.
is he still working with Axl?
how come nobody ever asked axl about him?!!

Coz people dont get to talk to Axl much, and when they do, they normally just blurt out 'whens the album coming out' seeing as thats what they care about

 :no: stupid fans  :no:
why do only idiots get to meet him :rant:

I've heard that noone liked Paul.

Slash hated him..

Izzy & Axl only liked him because he was from Indiana / lafayette or something, so they knew he was local

He was suppose to be Axl's best friend but why he did not even turn up for one night at the NY gigs.

I did a search on this website:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns_n_roses

It says that:
"Paul Tobias left the band because of his frustrations with delays in the album's recording. He was replaced by Richard Fortus, formerly of the bands The Psychedelic Furs and Love Spit Love"

Is this true???

he stayed in the band till at least 2002 that we know of.
he is said to be one of the reasons why the band broke up.
Axl brought him in because he was his friend. that pissed off slash and the others.

in 2001 Axl said that Paul was one of the reasons why he keept the GNR name/project alive.
in 2002 Axl said that Paul doesn't wanna do live performances, and that's when fortus joined.

I have no idea what happened with Huge after that.

I'm not being funny but if you met Axl one of the main things you would want to ask him is what happened to Paul Huge? I can think of a million things to ask him before I asked that. At the time of the original GNR break up Huge was believed to be a large reason for the break up, this may or may not be true but you will never get too many fans of the old GNR wondering what Paul Huge, the man who 'saved' or 'destroyed' GNR (depending on how you look at it), is up to.

he was replaced by Richard Fortus, but we never got an official explanation except, "paul isnt a guy that likes to tour"
the "frustration" part is something somebody made up.

I'm not a huge fan of Paul Huge, but just because he played such a big role in GNR history, I wanna know.

Well for what it's worth the last I heard he was still involved with GNR but apparently in more of an advisory capacity and just became a behind the scenes man. No idea if this is true though.

Does Paul have any solo/band stuff?

Dudes... who cares about this guy, just cause he co wrote back off bitch and laid some riffs on sympathy for the devil doesn?t even make him worth discusssing, my humble opinion only

after leave Guns n roses Paul Tobias was rumoured in 2002 to create a new band called Mak Rage with Dave Lank, no news on this project.

LOL, I agree. I was trying to think of a way to carefully phrase "who gives a shit about Paul Tobias" but you got there first.

 :hihi:

I dont really care about Tobias I think he kind of sucked. His stage presence is nothing like that of Fortus. Fortus has a much more like kick ass rock and roll vibe and in my opinion is a much better guitarist then Tobias.

you know nothing on his involvement in the band since '95, so dont go jumping to conclusions.
I at least wanna know all I can about the guy before I start judging and bashing him and his work.
in period 95-02 he did something in the fuckin band and I wanna know what.

Yeah I agree with you..
Like AXL said, people think they know what's going on inside GNR but they have no idea.

For all we know, Paul could have wrote all the new songs in their entirety. :hihi: LOL. I know im been stupid, im just saying what the others have said, we dont know his involment, so dont bash him til we can prove he's done jack shit.

Hey Einstein, he did exactly what the rest of the band did between 95-02... NOTHING!

Huge was a shit musician in comparison to world class players like Slash and Duff and that's what pissed them off. That's why he didn't have the balls to play live cuz he knew he couldn't cut it. Just one of many that have come and gone in this embarrasing musical soap opera. NEXT!!

maybe you should just chill out a wee bit.  :-\

I am chilled! Just stating the truth. End of.  : ok:

Paul Huge left in 2001, becuase in December 01 when the band played the vegas shows he wasn't there. That means he only played two shows, HOB 01/01/01 and Rock in Rio III.
Anyone think he looks like Sawyer from Lost?

Maybe Sawyer is Paul. That would explain why he left. Right?

go fuck a razor.

i think axl said somewhere that paul was there to help axl write, and that he was there as a friend to axl while he was putting the new band together, but that he was never gonna be in the completed band...i was wondering that the other day though if he was gonna be at the nyc shows

The hell with Huge, all I have to say is that fortus is way underappreciated, he has always been overshadowed by Buckethead, and Robin, not really by Bumblefoot but I need more than a week to see if that happens. Fortus has always given a solid preformance and to be honest his solo was the only really amazing one at the NY shows, Finck's were really good but Fortus' solo just seemed to fit more to me. I really think Fortus is a mix of Izzy and Slash, I mean the guy can rip and he puts a lot of heart into his work and I hear he is a really cool guy to meet in person. So hell yea for Richard Fortus, way "better" than Paul Huge. Sorry to go off on a bit of a tangent on Fortus, just could not help myself.  :smoking:

Interesting.  Lucky I think you have some very valid questions, I wonder the answeres to some of them myself

yeah i wonder what happend to that guy, looked like he should have been in a take that video in RIR3.
maybe he's at the reunion of there's!! :rofl:

there's been so many guns n roses guitarist changes i forget who's who now, anyone got some pics and label who's who please, i get confused with finck and fortus

Finck = Jesus looking Guy

Fortus = Izzy looking Guy

Izzy = Fortus looking guy
Buckethead = the guy in yellow jacket

Axl  = White rastafarian Goatte Coffee House Poet

I think that's an old band from the early 90s really. Axl was gonna co-produce the album that should've been out in 2003 or something like that.

He was at the vegas shows in December 01.

He was in both shows in Vegas Dec 2001/2002. I talked to him after the second. Really nice guy, down-to-earth. So, he played a total of 4 shows with guns. I remember he was playing a solo on Rocket Queen (the one Richard currently does) and the intro to Paradise City. He is ok, but nothing impressive. His stage presence though is no worse than Richard's or Robin's or Bumble's.

And the Bucket on his head.  : ok:

I'm one of the few that actually liked the guy, if only for the fact that he helped Axl. I wouldn't be surprised if he's still somewhere behind the scenes helping out...

Paul Tobias/Huge is that guy from RiR3 who looked like a danky version of Kurt Cobain in a leather trenchcoat.

No proper photos of him even appear on google image search under either name.

he was cool..... everyone of you bag on him now coz hes not in the band anymore.... back in 2001 you were all singing a different tune werent you?

pauls pre-gnr band was mank rage...dave lank , darin mickler and drummer ..have done some recordings which may see the light of day..from what i hear it is 'interesting'....they played around l.a. in early 90s..saw them live at whisky ..and paul can play...they rehearsed at hollywood and western..i was a ?friend...paul deserves none of the shit he has gotten..

no i?ve always think he shouldn?t be there, but i guess i can give him the chance to see if his name appears in any of the new tracks in chinese democracy

oh Paul Huge.... i saw him a few times with Guns .. I weep for the past!!

Paul Huge represents everything that is and has been wrong with this incarnation of Guns

Good riddance I say  : ok:

true.. they all just bag on him coz they dont know whats going on with him... he was there and then not there... but they all stood up and cheered him at vegas and rio.... they are just fair weather fans ....

i did see them pop up in a movie...jimmy hollywood...evidently they had some songs in it...i do think if anyone is an axl fan then they should be a paul fan....so i defend him..everyone wants to bash his playing when they havent even heard it..bash his character when they dont even know him.. and..   no i''am not paul.......iam the walrus....but this guy is obviously a musician and songwriter..and helping a friend seems to have done some serious damage too his rep

Paul Huge is a lousy songwriter...a lousy guitarist....and an overall douchebag. Good riddance I say.

and you know this how? what songs of his have you heard? what original music have you heard him play? why is he a douchebag?  your a douchebag.... talking about someone you dont even know on the internet... bet he would would kick your ass across the street tho and buy your entire life with his "lousy songwriting skills"... your a fag.

 :rofl: :rofl:  I guess that's better than Fatty Magoo... lmao....

are you for real?!
what kind of guy wears a bucket on his head?

buckethead wears a bucket on his head... what kind of guy wears the faggot clothes you wear?

Could you guys stop with the insults?

And stop calling people faggot, I don't really think you know what that means.

broke back mountain beayatch!!!

Yeah, isn't Laup the brother of Noob Saibot?

Ok, bad joke. ?It's early.

LMAO - this kid is a dweeb but thats a fucking great comeback!! ?: ok:

Very funny... Yeah, well, have fun with your insults then.

LOL  :peace: You rock leesixxrose!  : ok:

I still dont care about Paul Huge, but youre one of the most down to Earth people on this board.  :beer:

yeah ok.. back on topic now about paul..... you all cheered him when he played at rio and now its the same people talking shit....

lol.. thanks... tell jarmo to raise my karma!! lol...

I will never forgive Paul Huge for the role he played in the demise of the old band.

Hehe, yea the mods dont seem to like your attitude or sense of humor.


Oh c'mon - if him playing on one song could make Slash leave it was obviously going to happen even if he wasnt around.

oh yeah? and did you ever watch the RIR 01 videos? did you cheer when he played PC? did you get excited and sit by your internet computer beating off waiting for some pics of the band at the joint in 2001? Did you? or do you know Paul Huge? he was a member of the old band? he is to blame for the demise of the "old band".. even tho he wasnt even a member? how about you blame the actual members of the old band? you fucking jackass...he didnt do anything but support his friend... his friend and his friends band...  im sure paul huge doesnt give 2 fucks about wanting your forgiveness... dick

Why thank you.

You know I'm right by the way. If I was in Paul Huge's position I would'ntve turned down the opportunity to join GNR but he did really ruin it.

he did turn it down... hes not in the band anymore is he.. hes back to obscurity.. yet you internet nerds keep putting the man down......you dont even know the guy... but you gladly stood up and cheered when he was in the band in 2001... he didnt ruin anything..  Slash didnt ruin anything, Duff didnt ruin anything, Axl didnt either.... get over it... they dont want to make music together anymore... get over the old band..... get over paul.. he helped his friend from the fucking 10th grade.. his friend from over 20 years.. do you have any friends from over 20 years ago? give it a rest man...you dont know Paul Huge from Doug Goldstien... Paul didnt "ruin" anything...

In my defence I wasn't actually a diehard GNR fan back in 2001 so no, I didn't stand up for Paul Huge.

Paul Huge was the cancer in the old GNR band, he made them die. None of the old members liked him and Slash hated him because he re-recorded his solos for SIDHY. Duff and Matt hated him and he was the reason Matt was fired from GNR in 97.

So If Paul Huge never joined GnR we'd still have Slash/Matt/Duff/Axl on stage? Pfft.

Youre like those people who claim Yoko Ono broke the Beatles up.

Members of the original GnR left because they didnt like being in the band anymore. If one person can get in the way of a band like that they obviously have serious issues beforehand.

I'm not saying that he is the SOLE reason the band broke up but he was a big influence in this.

Its obvious you werent a "diehard fan" in 2001 thats why your posts are so full of shit.. you just re post what you have heard or read...  you reposted what you heard about his relationships with Slash and Duff and Matt... you reposted what they said in the press for simpletons like you to read and make up your minds about someone you have never even met... he didnt "re record" anything slash did on that song... he played what was missing when gilby wasnt around anymore.. and it wasnt on SIDHY it was on SFTD.. the sound track song from the tom cruise movie ... you think Matt Sorum or Duff had a problem with Paul when they knew Paul was axls friend? or just when Slash used paul as another reason to not get along with axl? you have a simple mind and you really should look to both sides of what you have been told/read on the internet before you tear a mans name down in public. 

Matt was fired because he was an asshole.
Duff stayed in the band after Slash left. Duff left becuase he OD-d and had to quit. Slash quit because he couldt get along with Axl.
Huge had nothin to do with it.

get your facts straight.

no he wasnt... re read your GnR history... Paul had nothng to do with them not getting along... read about the drugs, the drinking, the power trips, it was years before this started.. not just paul laying down some guitar tracks for a irelivant movis soundtrack cover song.

All this Paul Huge shit is crazy - Im not really that interested in the guy but saying he broke the band up and re-recorded Slash's stuff is absurd. As far as I know all he did was play a guitar track that Slash didnt like which Axl refused to compromise on. Big fucking deal - more to do with Axl and Slash than Paul.

You guys need to watch that VH-1 behind the music deal and get some facts clarified from the horses mouth... the MEMBERS themselves.

First up according to Sorum, he was fired because Axl and another guitarist (Huge i think but can't be assed to check for sure) were openly dissing and ripping on Slash and Matt stuck up for him saying "he is my FRIEND - he isn't here to defend himself" bla bla and Axl then threw his toys outta the pram over that. Conclusion:- kudos to Sorum, he was in the right, and hey, i don't particularly like the guy myself but that was a cool thing to do.

Slash left because he got tired of waiting around for Axl, the fights just got worse as Axl got more and more flakey and distant. Slash actually called Keith Richards about holding onto the band, Keith told him you NEVER leave, but the cumulative damage was so immense he just couldn't take it any longer. Conclusion:- Slash was in the right. No one would put up with such misery over a period of time in any job so Slash was in the right to walk and Axl was the guilty party. I once respected Rose but after all the evidence against him i truly believe he is to blame for the demise of the greatest rock n roll band of it's generation. Only newbies and dumbasses can ever say this nu incarnation is an improvement.

Don't know about Duff so won't comment. As for Huge you are right - he had nothing to do with the big split... because he was and is NOTHING.? :yes:

Oh yeah - MTV is a bastion of reliable and unbiased journalism.

All we'll ever know about the breakdown of the original GnR is going to be one persons opinion vs another, but Id warn you against believing anything that blames one party solely.

And even Slash has said more recently that Axl didnt deserve all the bad press he got.

i think ur facts are wrong & hell i wasnt there but ill chim in on what ive read in interviews & the like overrthe years

the thing is there was difference in opinion in which direction GNR should go, Axl wanted to go one way Izzy wanted one way Slash wanted one way i think Duff tried keeping it together. Once Izzy left, Gilby ccame on board they did the tour & thats it. Slash had told Axl that before making a decision with the band he should of course consult him & Duff as they were partners with Axl in the GNR business end.

In 1994 Duff had the OD i think u are refering to, thou in reality it wasnt an OD, his panchreas (a part of ur body that distributes chemicals in ur body to where they need to go i believe) exploded, which meant he couldnt drink alochol or do drugs anymore other wise he would die. Also from having an experience with someone with a similar condition he wouldnt have been able to consume much fat without getting extremely sick or even dying after a while.

in early 1994 Slash & Axl met Slash brought along a tape (which would later be songs used on the original Snakepit album) & Axl listened. He didnt like any of the tracks on there, this is kinda the beginning of the end of the end breaking up for good. Axl was interested in doing different things than Slash was hell even i guess you could say Gilby & Matt, who both partnered with Slash for the original Snakepit album. This prompted Gilby's exit...

Axl made the decision to fire Gilby (& i believe rehire & then refire) in 1994-1995 without consultation (hell he may have been re hired coz slash fought to keep him in, Gilby did say in interviews he reckons Axl was pissed at him siding with Slash) then also without consultation he replaced the void izzy & gilby left with his friend Paul Huge. Understandably Slash was not happy without being consultated or discussing or making a decision together. Then Sympathy for the devil came out & some (not sure how much some claim all some say parts) of Slash's recordings were removed which futher angered Slash.

Everyone in the band reunited to talk about the new album & direction Guns N Roses was going to take in Mid-Late 1996. Slash i believe said him & Axl tried to discuss but could not agree on the direction the music & the band was going to take. It is then when Slash left Guns N Roses & Axl did that press statement saying him & Slash hadnt been able to agree for quite some time & that if band members Duff & Matt didnt get there act together they would be left behind.

I think both Matt & Duff stuck around for a little longer hoping Slash & Axl could come together & settle things, but once Matt & Paul got into an arguement about a comment Paul made about Slash Axl stepped in & fired him. Duff held out for a little longer b4 finally deciding to move on

So yeh thats how it happened, nothing to do with an OD, or Matt being an asshole (why do ppl hate him so much he's cool to me maybe a bit of an ego but he's nice enuff)

Uhh, VH-1 is NOT MTV dumbass. The behind the music show has unbiased interviews with all the major players and is as close to truth as you will get until Axl has the balls to say his piece.

An interesting point in this docu that i remember is Slash saying how the UYI vids became so bloated, cheesy and over budgeted/produced, but when he complained about this to Axl, he would throw a fit and start issuing threats etc. Only last week on K-ROQ Axl ADMITTED he now feels the same way about the vids! That says a lot about Axl. He is a very flawed individual who needs to think and listen to those around him a bit more. Kinda like the nu-Guns fans on this forum who constantly flame the original guys then rave about the AFD, Lies UYI songs!  :confused:

Good posts, tommorrow.

I never blame their breakup on anyone as I think

1) it's not good for anyone to cling to something they really can't stick.
2) probably they had accomplished almost everything they could do together in the band. a burnout in another word.
3) Actually it's none of outsider's business.
4) It has come good. The band is fresh and great again now.
5) In the long run a breakup or two is not the end of the world.
the end of one thing is the beggining of another. where there is life, there's always the heven above you....:peace:

Paul Huge is the guy who wrote OMG right? I love the song. He's good. :yes:

,

ooooookkkk  :confused:

yeah oh my god is a great song,.,pfffff

what a big crap is this.,.,

i have fan since i was 10 i saw the original band and believe me the magic is long gone, this new guys play well but it isnt the same magic.

and paul huge can suck my dick, if all the old members hate him there must be a reason beyond he is the man behind the brake up.

Great summary! I agree with this explanation. It is consistent with what I've read/heard over the past 12 years.  EVERYBODY READ THIS!!!

Dr. light..you are cannot spell ..and you want head jobs from men...could you spew us more wisdom?

I'd like to know how much of Slash's guitar parts were re-recorded for Sympathy... I mean, you can easily tell that the solos are Slash's. No one plays like him. And judging from Paul's performance at Rock In Rio, he doesn't seem to be the most capable guitar player. So, it would be pretty easy to tell if it was him trying to do a solo instead of Slash.

Maybe Slash recorded 2 rhythm guitar parts, (one for himself, and one acting as "Izzy")
Then Paul came along and redone the 2nd rhythm part (the Izzy part)

Just my thoughts on it all

I think Sympathy For The Devil is a great cover, nicely done by all the members, except the guitar solo near the end where one guitar plays, then the other guitar plays the exact same notes.  Its not much of a solo and I don't care for the guitar tone... could this be Paul playing?  If its him and Slash, their guitars sound remarkably similar.