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You guys think Axl might invite some more old GN'R members on stage over in europe?
Like maybe if VR were in the area, you think Slash and Duff would follow in Izzy footsteps and maybe play a few songs with Axl on stage?

This seems alot more plausible then a full out reunion right now.
Maybe one could happen after both Axl+friends and Velvet Revolver stop touring though.

In a word......no!

I think this was more of Axl inviting an old best friend up on stage to play some songs he helped write than Axl wanting to start talks of a re-union.

Duff's at Download with AIC, Axls there a day later, anythink is possible.

Same, and Axl knows how respected Izzy is by the GN'R community. It's a different situation with Izzy I feel.

I could picture Duff and Matt maybe playing with Axl, probably not Steven because he talks alot of crap about Axl and I am sure Axl listens,, also Steven sued Axl and friends and I am sure that didnt go to well with Axl,,, the day Slash joins Axl on stage is the day they are guaranteed a 300 million dollar contract for a 40 show tour

Well what are we waiting for?
Lets start a fundraiser!  :peace:

Or we can enjoy this KICK ASS band that everyone here LOVES!  :o   : ok:

Right On? >:( fuck a reunion... fuck a reunion

I completely agree dude!  : ok:

It's a full reunion or no reunion. I'm pretty sure Slash doesn't want to make a guest appearance in his own band.

I could be wrong but this is how I see it.

Thats a good point.
Plus if the fans got a taste of Slash and Axl reunited they'd never let it go.

Oh and every concert after that all the jealous fans would be chanting for Slash.

slash needs axl.. axl doesnt need slash  ::)

Last time I checked VR is doing just fine.  ::)

news to me  :o

Guys, nobody needs nobody! Both bands are doing just fine doing their things! Let's just enjoy what we have just experienced! Even the die hard Slash fans had a kick ass time and think this band rocks! And as a bonus you have VR too!

Just enjoy!

Keep on dreaming? : ok:

Slash and Axl are both great. No one is better than the other.

I don't foresee a full out reunion anytime soon. It would be nice. What we have now is great too. Like gunner said, we should enjoy the music that's currently being made.

Seems to me they're having an amazingly hard time letting it go right now, with absolutely zero evidence of a reunion...

uh......NEVER GONNA HAPPEN


i'm sick of this reunion bullshit....just because izzy played 3 songs at one show does not mean the whole band will get back together.....axl already recorded tons of shit with this new band.....why would he trash all that material?

there's just no reason for it....both axl and the other guys are in seperate bands and are still working on material with their own bands.....


not going to happen

Agreed. It would be nice if all the members came to a peace about their experience in the original GnR, but honestly - the band is fucking awesome at the moment!

NO! nor am i interested in seeing it...its the one thing that would make me not a gn'r fan!

Gee thats weird, the last time I check there was no guy named slash in gnr now. So how is it his band?   ::)

... comment's like this make me think you are not a GNR fan.

A GNR reunion > anything else.

Yeah guys please stop this REUNION bullshit.....I just want CHINESE DEMOCRACY by this new kickass lineup.....

THANK YOU

What would be so great about a reunion anyway?

The original line up made some good albums, but they were dysfunctional as people and probably better off where they are now (except for poor Adler lol). Far as Im concerned, the new line-up is the future and its better than the original.

its remarkable to me that anyone who claims to be a fan of GNR could not want that to happen  ???

Why - the members all seem happier apart. I think theres a lot of old wounds that won't heal with the original members and pressuring them into a reunion wont be a nice experience for anyone.

i'd like to see a reunion happen... around 2012

Why?

Because they were one of the greatest bands of all time

Axls new band is great and all, but we're talking about a magic that has only been created very rarely in rock n rolls history

Yeah but there are the "new" fans now.

You know - the ones to whom Slash, Izzy, Steven and Duff mean nothing. ?::)

Hell... I love this new band but we shouldn't forget who Guns N' Roses really are.

or were.

Thats what I think. GnR mean a lot to me - AFD was the first rock album I ever listened to back when I was 5. I remember crying when Slash left.

But seriously, whats a bunch of old men getting together and jaming 25 year old tunes going to prove? Weve got plenty of concert and album recordings that speak for themselves.

You know, people on this board flip flop more than John Kerry,
"I hate Slash this new band is 110 times better"
Izzy shows up
"I hope they have a reunion and rock the house again."

 ?IT IS OVER! ? Slash and Axl will never play again. ?Perhaps you need to find the interview with Matt Sorum from last week. ?Slash will not play with Axl again. ?

 ?IF you all love this new band so much why are you PRAYING for a reunion?

I think this new band is great, would I like a reunion, of course, but I know it won't happen, and after seeing them on the 17th, the attitude, the swager, the energy....it was Guns N' Roses.
in '02 it was a cover band, ?on the 17th..the owned those songs and they rocked the fucking house...

Just because Izzy shows up means NOTHING.......

my point:
LOVE THE NEW BAND and stop bitching about reunion.

you all know for a fact that Axl and the rest of the band read these message boards,
All they hear after four amazing fucking shows is
"WOW IZZY, SLASH MAY NOT BE FAR BEHIND."

I think the Hammerstein shows more than validated the current lineup of GnR.  Now that we've seen what these Guns are capable of, I honestly -and somewhat surprisingly - have no interest in a reunion.  Tommy, Dizzy, Robin, Axl, Chris, Brain, Richard, and Bumble have officially stepped out from the shadow of the old band, and there's no going back, nor should there be.  I want GnR to move into the future, and these are the guys to make that happen.

Oh yes... the "just saw them live" effect.
Notice how for the few weeks after you see a band in concert they're far and away superior to all things on earth?

Let the hype of Axl playing die down and you'll all want the old band back.

agreed.



Izzy joining the new band for a few songs. was cool but lets see what this version has up it's sleave as far as albums .



After words then maybe a reunion would be cool.

I'd love to see a reunion as much as anyone, but isn't inviting ex-members up on stage at these gigs, kind of a disss to the new guys there that REPLACED them?

I think it's silly for Slash to get up with the new band when there's already 3 guitarists up there.

If there's gonna be a reunion, I'd prefer it without the new line-up on stage mixing with them.

I think it's great that so many have embraced the new band like they have and that the NY shows were so successful.  I saw two of them (not the 17th  :-\ ) and enjoyed every minute of it.  Was totally impressed with Robin and even Ron - even though he's a bit of an odd choice.  Well I guess after BH, thats pretty much par for the course. 

I understand these are the current members and they have spent alot time writing and recording this music.  I've even thought that it will be so weird to think about reunions after CD comes out.  Even if they decide to get back together a few years from now, would they play any new stuff?  how would that work?  But thats just me.  I think about these things. 

however, i do think that the strong supporters of the new band who speak out against old members, or even those who bitch at other fans for talking about a reunion, just need to deal with it.  I'm not saying that to be a dick.  I mean, I used to sit in high school and draw pictures in my notebook of GNR performing on a stage.  I would draw Duff's bass rig and Matt's kit, and to the best of my feeble artistic ablilities would pencil Axl, Slash, Duff and Izzy in various parts of the stage...always trying to make them look as cool as possible...ya know, cig hanging out of Slash;s mouth, etc.  Anyway, this turned into a tangent, but my point is that they were the coolest band in the world.  and it had every bit to do with the music as it did with the fact you were dealing a bunch of f'ing characters.  The guys names were AXL,SLASH,DUFF, IZZY, and DIZZY.  I mean you can't beat that.  They became larger than like really and in many ways caricatures of themselves.  Hell, I'm sure everyone on this board at some point had a some poster or Tshirt that had the band members depicted as skeltons or skulls...and even as skeltons you knew right away who the fuck everyone was! 

So I understand why all the reunion talk happens constantly.  It's not only bc Izzy came out last night.  Most GNR fans are ALWAYS talking about and hoping for a reunion.  At least all the ones I know do.  I'm not putting the new band down.  I think it's great that Axl managed to "save his life" these past 13 years and find musicians he could work with to get him to play for us again.  I hope CD comes out soon and that it's great.  But I also hope that at somepoint in my lifetime I see the original members put aside the differences play together again.  We all gotta keep in mind that we wouldn't be here on this board if those guys weren't already the best band in the world.  But they were, and now that axl is back and sounding phenomenal, some of us need to use this forum as a place to talk about how bittersweet it can feel at times...

I think its definitely possible, in fact I'm predicting it.  I mean for Izzy to go on stage with Axl was a huge step that may have paved the way for a possible Slash/Matt reunion show.

or should be.

Anyway, good question...

I mean... who's next ?

Duff ? Alice In Chains is going to coincide with Axl's band this summer... :yes:

I've never wanted a reunion, I've always wanted to see what direction Axl would take a new set of musicians in when the other guys didn't want to stick it out.... I'm waiting on Chinese Democracy.

If the album isn't good, then I'd probably hope for a reunion, but it looks like the album is going to be great.

I appreciate both what Guns N Roses was AND what Guns N Roses has now become. : ok:

Im down for a reunion but that shit won't happen. And I am more than happy with the New GnR. So in this situition I win either way.

I've always said I'd take a reunion in a second.  I was at the show last Friday, best damn show I've ever been to.  Hats off to the new band, they were great.  That being said, if Slash, Duff, and Izzy were to reunite with Axl I'd forget the words Chinese Democracy and the names Finck, Fortus, Bumblefoot, and Stinson in about 3 seconds.  I still think its gonna happen (a reunion that is), and I also think its not as far off as we think.  Pretty much every band gets back together eventually.  Aerosmith, the Eagles, Black Sabbath, Motley Crue, and tons more have went from absolutely hating each other to it being just like old times.  Its gonna happen one day, and when it does we'll all remember who Guns N' Roses truly is.  Not just Axl...but Axl, Slash, Izzy, and Duff.  I'd like to reiterate, this isn't a knock on the new band.  They're talented dudes and they put on an awesome show.  That being said...when Robin, Fortus, and Bumble were playing those solos, not a second went by when I wasn't thinking in the back of my mind..."Damn I wish that was Slash playing that Les Paul."  When Tommy was doing a kickass job on the bass, the whole time I was thinking, "How cool would it be if that was Duff up there?"  And you all can deny it, but I'd bet a good deal of money that if Slash, Izzy, and Duff got up on stage during those Hammerstein shows, you all would have screamed, danced, and head-banged just a little harder.  Ok, I've said my piece.

Well said Rob - jeez, the guys on here that flame the old band etc. What the fuck are you thinking of?!!! Granted, the new Gnr are good, but they are in effect a covers band. Especially when 90% of the setlist is by the real Guns. Cmon, take off the 'Rose' tinted spectacles and say to yourself really 'Idont want the proper Guns to reform, I want the new band' Lol it cracks me up.

Bet if you went to watch the Stones and just Jagger turned up you wouldnt be going 'Oh that hired guitar player ruuuuuuuuuuuulllles far more than keef Richards dude - I hope the proper band never come back'.

it's not impossible for another ex gunner to step onstage with them..... If slash would have stepped onstage at hammerstein the entire place would have went 3 times as nuts then for izzy... People were talking about slash all over the building..

I agree, Hell they could sell out Madison Square Garden 10 nights in a rew in under 5 minutes if Slash was to join the guys on stage.

The fucked up thing is with Izzy joining them on stage I want a reunion even more. It's just crazy.

i renunion is something everyone wants to happen, i think its very unlikely to do so, and anyway if it did it would not have the energy of a band that wants to be playing together

look at pink floyd at live 8 they were back enjoying individually but they were not the band they once were i don't want to see the same thing happen to gnr they have issues with each other maybe not all the members but certainly 1 or 2 of them so a full reunion in my eyes just will not happen

people have been saying for months now how the new band rocks (not just because they are now doing live shows) so why does all this come out just because izzy joined the band for a few old songs, thing is axl is unlikely to drop the enw songs from his set list, or at least all of them if a reunion happened axls new songs would not get played, would he like that?

Me to. I want the new band

The one band I could compare the GN'R saga to is Anthrax.

The original band (lead by singer Joey Belladona) split in 1992 and got a new singer (John Bush) and continued to tour and put out albums up until last year, when the original line-up reformed. And since then they've been doing a reunion tour playing only pre-1992 Anthrax songs.

Now I was a fan of the John Bush fronted Anthrax, so didn't particularly care for this reunion and the fact that they don't play any John Bush-era songs, whereas the new Anthrax (with John Bush) did play old songs as well as new.

So having said all that, I guess you'd have people in the same boat with GN'R.
There might be fans of the new band that don't care to see the old GN'R reform only to play old songs, much like myself with the Anthrax reunion.

Does that make sense?

made me feel the same way, but it is also because the set list is very heavy in old material.... So it's kind of like new band but lots of reminders of something I'm trying to look past..   Then again less then half the crowd knows all the leaks, people still talking about where's slash and missing older members...

I'd like the new guys to carry out this project being they worked on cd... in a few years if it changed it wouldn't matter to me... Old guys can play the new music just like the new guys play the old..

It would be cool at Rio or somthing if Duff came onstage and played/sang on It's So Easy.

That, and more Izzy appearences! Patience, Brownstone, DTJ, 14 Years, Think About You, Don't Cry...ah hell just replace Bumblefoot.

izzzy is the key to the gate of unleashing GNR on the world. the first steps have been taken and since he is on speaking terms with almost all original members, i say that it will happen, i always did, but it may still be a while away.

i've been waiting for CD for years and years. If a reunion happened the wait for CD would be over, there would be no CD. I 100% do not want a reunion to happen, i want to hear CD!!!!!

What do you think? Do you think it's posible in a near future?
I'm goin to see Axl to rio. The tickets have just arrived and i'm very excitin' to see welcome to the jungle, it's so easy, paradise city .... It's goin to be awesome. But i'd like to see Guns n' roses and not a bunch of guys who i don't know and don't mean nothing to me, They're not Guns

I hope they can get the way to get back to the original line-up.

Even if a reunion were to happen, whose to say the chemistry, or any chemistry would still remain amongst them?

They haven't all been on the same stage together in over a DECADE...

That's a long ass time to go without playing with eachother...

Back then it was natural chemistry, and creativity between the original guys, in particular Axl & Slash...and I seriously doubt no amount of rehearsing could recreate or reignite that natural born chemistry that was once there.

All of the guys have all gone in completely different directions both musically and in life, and finding their way back to eachother on a relatable and respectful level would take a ton of work and effort for all those involved... :-\

I can't help but think there is a lot of hard feelings between the old guys.  I think axl also wants to show what he can do on his own.  There is NO WAY we'll see a reunion of any sorts until CD is released.  I would bet that Axl is determined to shatter the sales numbers of Contraband.

I still think a full blown reunion will never happen, maybe a few shows, but not an actual tour.  Not anytime soon at least.  Maybe in 5-10 years if they still want to rock out and tour ala KISS/The Stones....

The way Axl sounds right now though, you'd think GNR could play for another 20 years!  : ok:

Same here.
If it weren't for this GNR, I, just as a rock fan, wouldn't know every ex gunners name. One day I came across the song Chinese Democracy and since then I've learned a lot about the band-The 2002 lineup. And now I know them better :P . 
I like this band better or rather, there is no comparison. Even what they say in interviews sounds cooler than former guys comments.
Among the formers, Izzy proved himself bigger. It might be Nice if other former guys realize it was their band and not anymore and come as guests to give their blessings to successors. But I don't see it happening.

What it is now is the only real GNR.
I'd refuse to call you a fan if you were wishing them a bad luck, such as disbandment.

I'm predicting a full out reunion show in 2012 when GNR is eligible/inducted into the rock n roll hall of fame. wouldnt that be awesome old school Gnr back for at least one show.

I don't think the two bands are at all comparable.  Anthrax put out severa albums with Bush and played countless shows with him.  Axl hasn't done much at all with this new band.  I guess there is one similarity though...I was damb happy to see the old Anthrax back together...just like I'd be damn happy to see GN'R back together.  And to ppbebe...what the hell have these new band memebrs even said in interviews.  All I've heard them say is either how they're still working on the album, or them kiss Axl's ass.  How is that cool?  No matter what way you spin it...Slash, Izzy, and Duff are what Robin, Fortus, and Stinson wish they were.  The only one who needs to realize its not his band is Axl.  GN'R is not Axl's band.  Its Axl, Slash, Izzy, and Duff's band.  Just like Aerosmith was never Jimmy Crespo and Rick Dufay's band.  I really can't wait for the reunion to happen.  I wonder how many of you are gonna say, "Damn I wish that was Robin up there instead of Slash."  My guess is none of you will say that.  This new band is quite talented, but stop kidding yourself...you all want the old band back and you know it.

That's a more than a little presumptuous. I'd take Robin over Slash, and I could give a flying fuck about the old band. They left GNR, and we have more creative and energetic guys in their place.

Slash and his snooze-inducing recent work are right at home with VR, and I don't want him cluttering GNR with his same ol' sound and complete lack of interest in moving forward.

not anymore.. I want to see what this band can do... ive followed it for so long i want to see what it does... its too early to talk about a reunion... i dont want to see the old band up there playing the hits...


I want Chinese Democracy... Parts 1, 2 and 3.

I agree absolutely.

Its amazing how easily swayed some people are.  You hear a few demos and see a couple shows and already you forget completely about who GN'R adctually is.  Aside from those annoying intros, the leaked songs are just as "same ol' sound" as anything Slash has done.  And just cause Robin jumps into the crowd a couple times all of a sudden he's a better live peformer than Slash?  Please, give me a break...and what are you basing your claim that this new band is more creative on?  I think you're the one being presumptuous.

I haven't forgotten about who GNR actually is. The guy in your icon - He was GNR, but he left.

The guy in my icon currently IS GNR, and has been for 4 years now. If anyone disagrees, then they're either blind or ignorant. It's reality, not 1991.

K. The guy in your icon is not in Guns N' Roses.
He's in a cover band plain and fucking simple. Get that through your fucking head. THIS IS NOT GUNS N' ROSES.

No one except for a few of you die hard Axl dick suckers on the internet consider these poser's GN'R. This new band is a laughing stock to every musician I know. Slash, Duff and Izzy had just as much, if not more, impact on Guns going big... Hell if Slash never strung those few notes together to form the Sweet Child O' Mine riff this message board probably wouldn't exist. None of you would know who Axl Rose is. I can't believe how ignorant some of you are.

What if Slash went and called Snakepit "Guns N' Roses"... You guys would be up in arms. He could do it... He was just as big a cog in the GN'R machine as Axl.
You can't take a band like Guns N' Roses that depended so much on there awesome chemestry take away 4 out of the 5 members on of them being SLASH who's fucking a Guitar GOD. A Fucking Legend!!! and still call it the same band. Get that through your head.

This will never be Guns N' Roses.
You either need Duff and Izzy to return or just Slash before you could call it that.

Sorry. But I just got really fucking pissed off.

Maybe you're the one who should realize that this IS Guns N' Roses.

Why don't you just go to a forum dedicated to the old band, and complain there?

I'm so sick of your way of being negative about GN'R all the goddamn time.

Go ahead, slam me, I don't care.

No it isn't.
This is just some fucker who can't wake up and relize that the band he's in is not GN'R.

Axl Rose is GnR, you need to realize that and if you dont think so go talk on a VR message board

No he isn't!
Ha! Without Izzy, Slash and Duff, Axl would be getting beat by his dad as we speak.

you need to watch the Axl disrespect it is unacceptable and wont be tolerated

Fuck Axl.
 ::)

Axl? is that you?

Fact is he is not GnR. And we could debate for hours but its been discussed over and over again.

you're a jackass, alot of GnR's songs are defined by Axl's unique voice, i respect the old band members but they are not the backbone of GnR. Axl's proving he is now with this tour.

All I'm trying to get across is that if GNR was GNR when Matt and Gilby were around, then it's still GNR now.

I don't understand how  the Illusion/TSI era gets a pass, when they'd already lost two Original Gunners by that point, while the 2006 GNR gets slammed.

I've always said the "purest form" of GNR was the lineup that Recorded Appetite and Lies:

Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Steven. After Izzy and Steven were gone, it was a whole different band and approach - I just accept it and move on with the changes as they come.

Tara da_Pepe.

Like many bright boardmates said, now Axl Brain, Chris dizzy Tommy Richard, Robin and BF really are GNR.
Honestly I still miss the BH + Robin pair but hopefully BF will do.


GNR guys wish they were the formers? I don't know where you got the idea from. no way in the hell.
there're so many slash wannabes in the world (and on the fan boards)but none of them are in the band.
Wear glasses. and a hearing aid.  See the lineup. Each one differs. This GNR obviously highly values individuality.

Can you quote the article where they kiss Axl's ass. Have you even read their interviews properly?
And Axl interviews. What he said about the members correspond to what dizzy and Tommy said.
If you call compliments ass kissing, you should call Axl an asskisser too. And you slash's asskisser.
 

it WAS. If it was two decades ago, I'd name them. I might be saying "who need Traci (I learned this name here)  when there's Slash" or whatever, if I was around.
But geez, do you know where we are? it's 2006 baby.

Slash.
Axl and Slash is still Guns N' Roses.

There the two Icons in that band.

newsflash----slash is in velvet revolver, he quit GnR

Yes but Slash, Duff, Izzy and Axl made the band famous.
Not just Axl. The band was big because of there contributions. It's there band.

You're saying the same thing over, over and over again. Why don't you just stop?

So you value the band because it's big and famous.

Because you guys can't get through your heads.

Because you guys can't get through your heads.

you can't get through your head that Axl is a bigger part of GnR than Slash, Duff, and Izzy. Velvet revolvers music isnt nearly as good as GNR, wonder why?.... maybe cuz Axl isnt in VR

I'd Take Slither and Fall To Pieces over any leak.

i dont think you would

Yeah, well, have fun with that.

Can't you just go to a VR board or something? You're obviously not "accomplishing" anything with your opinions here.

I do.
I know alot of people who would.

go to a suck scott weilands dick board and stop tarnishing this board with you VR bullshit its not needed.

And you will find none here so off you go..

I would. And im a huge new gnr fan. The only leak I would take over Slither is CITR


Also.. comments like these deserve negitive Karma... keep insults to yourself.

Ok, I've had enough of a few of you and your reunion dreams.


Leave this board right now if you can't handle the fact that GUNS N' ROSES are gonna start a tour in a few days.


Maybe you can come back when your dream comes true. Until then, just get the fuck out of here already. We don't need to hear your whining about the band at a point in time when stuff is actually happening and the band is having a great time.



/jarmo