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Title: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: Millions on May 17, 2006, 10:10:15 AM

You know......this is great - all this stuff about the gigs in new york ; the shows coming up, etc. Its good to have some movement at last. But is it just me, or is anyone else just a little bit pissed off that these shows and travelling around europe will just  delay the album even further?

Its not finished - we all know that. But its not going to get fn finished with axl galivanting around europe playing the same old songs we've heard a hundred times before.


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: hammerstein2006 on May 17, 2006, 10:12:01 AM
it's a great thing to do for the fans, keep your selfishness to yourself.


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: godiva on May 17, 2006, 10:13:26 AM
Maybe it's the other way around. The band needs to be a band in order to wrap up this record. I have a feeling that these gigs would probably glue the last pieces of the album together.


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: the dirt on May 17, 2006, 10:13:56 AM
What would you rather have? A tour of sorts and no album or no album and no tour. Those would be your choices.


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: GypsySoul on May 17, 2006, 10:16:40 AM
But is it just me, or is anyone else just a little bit pissed off that these shows and travelling around europe will just? delay the album even further?

IT'S JUST YOU!!!

Stop complaining and try enjoying what IS goin' on like the rest of us.


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: GeorgeSteele on May 17, 2006, 10:18:01 AM
I agree with the Chocolatier. ?The tour will expedite the completion of the album. ?In 1991, the UYI tour started in April and we had our album in September. ?Fall ends on December 20, so I'm expecting it by then.


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: WARose on May 17, 2006, 10:34:15 AM
axl has to release the album. that`s a fact... at least if he doesn`t want to get bashed by the media and if he wants to do a succesful america tour : ok:


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: hammerstein2006 on May 17, 2006, 10:37:34 AM
But is it just me, or is anyone else just a little bit pissed off that these shows and travelling around europe will just? delay the album even further?

IT'S JUST YOU!!!

Stop complaining and try enjoying what IS goin' on like the rest of us.

i couldn't agree more. look at what he said about "axl galivanting" around europe, what a selfish douche with no solidarity with the gnr fan base.


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: SINSHINE on May 17, 2006, 10:42:33 AM
I think the album will come out between the Summer tour in Europe and a Fall U.S. tour (or perhaps, simulataneously with). Touring in Europe will regain some credibility for the band in order to tour here in the U.S., however they'll definitely need an album out in order to step successfully onto U.S. soil again.



Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: Judge Dredd on May 17, 2006, 10:49:06 AM
I'm pretty certain the UYI albums weren't complete when they started that tour, so I'm sure it isn't really anything to worry about.

I wouldn't be surprised if they have been doing some stuff in New York while they've been there, and they can always book studios in the various countries they'll be visiting over the next few weeks.


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: 2NaFish on May 17, 2006, 11:05:21 AM
ugh. The band is touring dammit.

Be happy.


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: slashisvr on May 17, 2006, 12:23:44 PM
even though id love to own CD, id much rather see axl ripping up the stage


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on May 17, 2006, 12:37:14 PM
Hmmm...with the band touring so much, how and when will they be able to record?  Not to mention mixing and mastering! :crying:  Unless there is a break between the last Europe gig and the first American gig, I just don't see CD hapeening THIS YEAR!  I hope I'm wrong.


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on May 17, 2006, 12:39:20 PM
what scared me is that IRS wasnt played right, that's wierd considering the time they have ...
if they cannot play IRS rigth now, i dont see the CD coming out soon.


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on May 17, 2006, 12:45:38 PM
Also, in Mr. Intensity's thread, Fortus said that Bumblefoot is gonna re-record Buckethead's parts!


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: Krispy Kreme on May 17, 2006, 01:03:12 PM
What would you rather have? A tour of sorts and no album or no album and no tour. Those would be your choices.

Gotta agree. People complained nothing was happening, and now at least there  is a tour, which is sort of a mini-promotion of the album and the new songs. So we should be happy.


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: godiva on May 17, 2006, 01:46:03 PM
I agree with the Chocolatier.  The tour will expedite the completion of the album.  In 1991, the UYI tour started in April and we had our album in September.  Fall ends on December 20, so I'm expecting it by then.

That's me, right? Just making sure, I'm very tired.  : ok:

Let's see it this way: with the tour happening, ALL the band members will be in the same space at the same time. I was under the impression that that just didn't happen a lot the past few years. Remember Dizzy saying that he hasn't seen anybody from the band since the tour 2002? Even during rehearsals, the band was on the west coast, Axl was in NY, till the band came over. And even then I don't think he showed up at every rehearsal.

So, fall it is  : ok:


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: Markus Asraelius on May 17, 2006, 01:48:08 PM
I live in Salt Lake City, Utah, and I'm happy the band is touring and they're don't have a tour date set up even close to where I'm living! I'm just happy they're out and about and clearly having a good time.


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: phi_kai_phi on May 17, 2006, 01:51:23 PM
what scared me is that IRS wasnt played right, that's wierd considering the time they have ...
if they cannot play IRS rigth now, i dont see the CD coming out soon.


Played "right"?  I don't see how you could possibly know the "right" way to play it.  Maybe you still don't understand what a demo is....


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: Dont Try Me on May 17, 2006, 01:52:05 PM
I've been wondering. What if Axl's voice is going to get rougher and rougher? I love his old voice and dig the new style as well but the new songs are fairly different aren't they? I mean, the key is different, higher. In E instead of the old Es- 'Guns tuning'. It's harder on his voice. So if he gets more and more to his old voice along the way......how will he pull of the new songs? Put them in different tuning?

If you listen to the (bad quality) boot from the NYC, you can hear Axl has a hard time pulling of IRS, Better, for instance, and the blues. Is that because he gets his old rasp voice back step by step? therefor harder to hit the high notes in the new songs? Or is it just me?

opinions?

I think Axl's voice will sound great on IRS if they play it in lower tuning. I think that's why (IRS for instance) sounds so forced on the nyc show?






Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: MJRoses23 on May 17, 2006, 02:01:59 PM
I have wondered about that as far as his voice goes but i think that we dont have anything to worry about.  He said hes got a new vocal teacher and throat doctor so i think hell be ok. And there were times in the show that i thought he was gonna blow his voice but then he would let out a scream.  I think hes just experimenting and as far as the record goes im pretty sure they can work on that thing from any part of the world.  It dont have to be in the US and if most of the vocals are done like Axl said then there shouldnt be any problem in finishing it up while on tour or before the euorpe tour begins.


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: GeorgeSteele on May 17, 2006, 02:09:07 PM
I agree with the Chocolatier.? The tour will expedite the completion of the album.? In 1991, the UYI tour started in April and we had our album in September.? Fall ends on December 20, so I'm expecting it by then.

That's me, right? Just making sure, I'm very tired.? : ok:

Let's see it this way: with the tour happening, ALL the band members will be in the same space at the same time. I was under the impression that that just didn't happen a lot the past few years. Remember Dizzy saying that he hasn't seen anybody from the band since the tour 2002? Even during rehearsals, the band was on the west coast, Axl was in NY, till the band came over. And even then I don't think he showed up at every rehearsal.

So, fall it is? : ok:

That's right.  The best chocolate in the world can't be wrong.  Seriously, you make a great point.  It's very rare that they're all together like this, so if anything it will speed things up.  In fact, I would think next week would be a very busy week for them.


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: shotgun_blue on May 17, 2006, 02:12:41 PM
He said on the 15th show that he was really pleased with his band line up now and looked really a part of them which I dont think was the case ever before aprt from the early days. For this reason I think he'd be looking to wrap up the album soon as he seemed genuinely pleased and happy with everything.


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: horsey on May 17, 2006, 03:22:59 PM
i have not one complant about the whole thing.i think it's great and he sounds better then ever !


Title: Re: Drawbacks Of The Shows
Post by: Butch Français on May 17, 2006, 03:29:48 PM
I think it's a good sign. lots of bands who plan to release an album in the fall/winter, do a short summer tour in Europe to get a break from the studio, and get glued together live and such.