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Title: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: RichardNixon on May 16, 2006, 08:11:08 PM
It's hard to compare a half dozen demos and live cuts with 11-20 year old classics, but my gut tells me that "Chinese Democracy" and its follow-ups will be the very best Guns N' Roses albums. I can't stop listening to the new songs on my computer--they are so rocking, melodic and rich...some of the best rock I have ever heard. I sooooo can't wait for "Chinese Democracy" to come out.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: journey on May 16, 2006, 08:46:42 PM
Nothing can take away from AFD, Lies, and UYIs. But Chinese Democracy will be up there with the best of them. It's easy to tell just by what I've heard so far.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: Communist China on May 16, 2006, 10:25:36 PM
No album can touch AFD. Maybe CD could be better than UYI, but even that isn't easy. From the leaks, I think this album will be slightly above UYI, but no one can say for sure.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: da_pope on May 17, 2006, 12:21:51 AM
 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
HAHAHAHAHA
Chinese Democracy won't even be the best album this year.
"Fifteen" by Buckcherry, "Stadium Arcadium" by the Red Hot Chili Peppers and "10,000 Days" by Tool are probably all going to end up being superior to Chinese Democracy... That is, unless there's some killer tracks on CD that haven't been played live. But from whats been played live and what has leaked, I'll take those over Chinese Democracy.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: RichardNixon on May 17, 2006, 01:35:20 AM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
HAHAHAHAHA
Chinese Democracy won't even be the best album this year.
"Fifteen" by Buckcherry, "Stadium Arcadium" by the Red Hot Chili Peppers and "10,000 Days" by Tool are probably all going to end up being superior to Chinese Democracy... That is, unless there's some killer tracks on CD that haven't been played live. But from whats been played live and what has leaked, I'll take those over Chinese Democracy.

We all know that you don?t support the new band and there really is no reason to compare the new GN?R with other albums, but since you brought it up?The new TOOL is boring and pretentious like every other album they?ve done. The new Buckcherry is a fun album, but nothing spectacular?certainly nothing too challenging or memorable. The new RHCP is great, but CD will still be my pick for the best CD of the year.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: Tomorrows on May 17, 2006, 01:59:07 AM
I dont know if it will be the best, but it will certainly be one of the highest selling. And Ill listen to it more than any other album no doubt.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: ben9785 on May 17, 2006, 07:06:46 AM
I couldn't really compare it to any of the earlier Guns N Roses albums because it's a completely different band with different musicians and hence you're bound to get a completely different sound.

PERSONALLY, I may come to appreciate this album more to the older albums, only because I prefer the musical direction these new songs have been taken rather than just the straight ahead hard rock / blues style that highlighted the older albums; I prefer a bit more diversity where possible, but once again, THAT IS ONLY ME, so don't go crazy and get too defensive. It's just my preference.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: slashisvr on May 17, 2006, 11:41:51 AM
i hope it will be great to justify 14-15 years of silence studio album wise


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: Markus Asraelius on May 17, 2006, 12:24:50 PM
Just because you don't like Tool doesn't mean that other people can't Richard Nixon.

BTW, Guns N' Roses needs to work on these songs before we can compare them to AFD material. Although I would call them superior to most music out these days.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: GnR-NOW on May 17, 2006, 05:23:18 PM
I think Chinese Democracy and the follow up albums will be fucking amazing.  I think musical they'll be just as good if not better, then the previous stuff.  Now saying that, I also understand that they will have a different sound then the previous albums. I'm almost positive that my reviews of the new album (s) will be completely opposite of what the media will think of them.  After going to the show on Monday, I thought the 5 new songs they played sounded great.  Better and Madagascar had a very powerful, emotional sound, I thought the Blues was very strong, IRS was awesome, and Chinese Democracy sounded great, I was not a big fan of that song, but hearing the way they played it live, it was unbelievably good.  So I can somewhat believe that CD will be the best album.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: RichardNixon on May 17, 2006, 06:13:18 PM
Just because you don't like Tool doesn't mean that other people can't Richard Nixon.

BTW, Guns N' Roses needs to work on these songs before we can compare them to AFD material. Although I would call them superior to most music out these days.

I never said anyone couldn't like TOOL.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: Tonrey on May 17, 2006, 07:59:45 PM
I think so ;D

Seriously, I freaking dying for the album here.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: plasmabeam on May 17, 2006, 08:57:08 PM
It can easily stand alongside the UYIs, but I can't see it touching Appetite.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: kaasupoltin on May 18, 2006, 02:17:18 AM
Well, now I've heard the demos and alot of bootlegs and I can say that it won't be the biggest.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: Sagolik on May 18, 2006, 11:13:21 AM
nope it will never take AFD place!  : ok:


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: Grouse on May 18, 2006, 11:48:10 AM
I'm not really that big on the direction axl is taking with guns so Imo it won't be.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: PJ on May 18, 2006, 08:57:45 PM
ME!


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: EccoTides on May 19, 2006, 04:45:17 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
HAHAHAHAHA
Chinese Democracy won't even be the best album this year.
"Fifteen" by Buckcherry, "Stadium Arcadium" by the Red Hot Chili Peppers and "10,000 Days" by Tool are probably all going to end up being superior to Chinese Democracy... That is, unless there's some killer tracks on CD that haven't been played live. But from whats been played live and what has leaked, I'll take those over Chinese Democracy.

Right. Buckcherry = Lame as hell. RHCP = Repetitive, Same old shit. Tool = Pretentious faux-intellectual alt/metal.

Anyway, moving right along.

I honestly think it could very well be the best GNR album. AFD isn't flawless - Anything Goes and You're Crazy are weak, and could easily be cut. And the bloated mess of the UYIs is easily surprassable.

Take songs like TWAT, Catcher in the Rye, and The Blues - These three songs are my absolute favorite GNR songs, as they're so melodic and creative. And the guitar solos in all three absolutely rule.




Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: da_pope on May 19, 2006, 09:38:52 PM
I honestly think it could very well be the best GNR album. AFD isn't flawless - Anything Goes and You're Crazy are weak, and could easily be cut.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
There is no way anything a reunited Guns N' Roses does will be better then AFD let alone this sad excuse for Guns.

None of the leaks or live songs come close to anything on AFD (minus Anything Goes). Appitite might of had 1 weak song and 1 not so great song but the rest were perfect. There is no chance in hell this album comes remotley close to the quality or sales numbers of Appitite.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: axls earwax on May 20, 2006, 12:01:44 AM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
HAHAHAHAHA
Chinese Democracy won't even be the best album this year.
"Fifteen" by Buckcherry, "Stadium Arcadium" by the Red Hot Chili Peppers and "10,000 Days" by Tool are probably all going to end up being superior to Chinese Democracy... That is, unless there's some killer tracks on CD that haven't been played live. But from whats been played live and what has leaked, I'll take those over Chinese Democracy.
     10,000 day's sucks you feel like your waiting 10,000 day's to hear some jammin! To much sound effect's on song's 6-11 boring that is not rock that is simply boring and lame for a band of that stature, uninventive, and sure lack of song writing ability :drool: tool suck's now[ just my opinion] !!!! : ok:


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: da_pope on May 20, 2006, 02:03:09 AM
You're right.
Tool does suck.

I actually can't stand tool.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: Tomorrows on May 20, 2006, 03:05:34 AM
I dont like Tool's new album. It sounds like AEnima and Lateralus ass-fucking each other.

I do like their other albums though.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: You Gonna Eat That? on May 20, 2006, 04:40:49 AM
It will probably be my favourite.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: Wolfpac on May 20, 2006, 10:16:19 AM
I think the album will sell extremely well only because of the GNR name. I personally think the demos and leaks are average at best compared to today's standards but suck compared to AFD or UYI. I'm sorry, I'm just not enjoying the demos and leaks.

I sat here by the computer for like 2 hours the other day just playing the demos and setting the player on 'repeat all' and trying to like the demos and leaks and I really tried to like them..... I really did but it just wasn't happening..... Even my bro came in and asked what I was listening to because he was getting annoyed from hearing the same tracks over and over. When I told him it was the 'new' GNR he just shook his head and said, 'Damn, this sucks.... Axl's finally lost it. Letting the original guys go was a mistake'. I gotta tell you, I have to agree with him.

These songs just aren't that good in my opinion. When it comes to GNR I expect a level of excellence. I expect something that will blow everything out of the water, not something that will only compete with everything in the water. Hey, who knows? These are only demos. Maybe these songs will get HUGE overhauls before the final release comes out.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: RichardNixon on May 22, 2006, 01:57:09 AM
I think the album will sell extremely well only because of the GNR name. I personally think the demos and leaks are average at best compared to today's standards but suck compared to AFD or UYI. I'm sorry, I'm just not enjoying the demos and leaks.

I sat here by the computer for like 2 hours the other day just playing the demos and setting the player on 'repeat all' and trying to like the demos and leaks and I really tried to like them..... I really did but it just wasn't happening..... Even my bro came in and asked what I was listening to because he was getting annoyed from hearing the same tracks over and over. When I told him it was the 'new' GNR he just shook his head and said, 'Damn, this sucks.... Axl's finally lost it. Letting the original guys go was a mistake'. I gotta tell you, I have to agree with him.

These songs just aren't that good in my opinion. When it comes to GNR I expect a level of excellence. I expect something that will blow everything out of the water, not something that will only compete with everything in the water. Hey, who knows? These are only demos. Maybe these songs will get HUGE overhauls before the final release comes out.

To each his own, but I can't fathom an Axl fan not digging "Better" and CITR. But I guess there are Beatles fans that didn't dig "Sgt. Pepper" either.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: Wooody on May 23, 2006, 09:40:31 AM
tool is the most boring band ever.


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: oldgunsfan on May 23, 2006, 11:49:04 AM
I don't think CD will be GnR's best but i could be wrong, definitly will be their most anticipated though


Title: Re: Who thinks "Chinese Democracy" will be the best Guns N' Roses album?
Post by: mikegiuliana on May 23, 2006, 12:14:05 PM
I think cd will be a great album, but not the best based on the songs I have heard... If more are like better, and less like cd it would be very good... I don't think anything could top afd imo, just how I feel..