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In my opinion hes suck, if Axl is looking to get good musicians he needs to get a better drumer. i just want to hear a solo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo_mg8ynuAY&search=drumsolo

DUDE.

you're gay!

you're gay at cd.com and you're gay here!

Brain is better than you, so until you're better than he is, don't criticize him!

Am just saying my opinion about him, i didnt ask for your opinion about me fucker!

We had enough drum solos on the UYI tour. they are better off not doing that and playing another song instead!

I just want to hear, if Brain is really good drumer like people said.

he have done drum solos before...

and i have seen video of it.

never really liked drum solos too much. only one i liked was some of the tokyo one with matt....

same me from guitar solos too, if its just shredding..

Not me. Who would you prefer? Also, would you mind waiting even longer for CD?

You want drum solos? For real?

Just compared
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa1pAvm_jd4&search=you%20could%20be%20mine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeYSdcXqKRU&search=you%20could%20be%20mine

sometimes, why not. I just want a really good drumer that could play anything.

Brain is the best drummer they have EVER had... besides Freese and that doesnt count...

so brain cant play anything?

have you even layed ear's on Primus? they are quite SOMETHING! love his work there.

somebody like vinnie colauita, Sting ex drumer.

The only person I'd want on the seat instead of Brain would be Steven. But that ain't happening.

How was he on YCBM on the recent shows?

He sounds better playing with Primus but with Guns I dont know :confused:

not hardly all vinnie on those albums pal.....

i think you must be deaf.... if you think brain sucks... ill bet you cant even tap your foot on the 2 and 4 beat....

LOL. Great thread.

Brain is absolute master class. If you don't think he is good enough, then build a time machine and bring AFD Adler back here. LOL.

not good, i know they want to change the intro but for the better not the worst.

haha yeah so he can get sick from all the black tar herion... yeah adler puts on a good show if you wanna see a train wreck.....

not everyone is going to like everyone, no need for personal insults.. : ok: I think he does fine, how long before ethe better then adler sorum shit starts    Sleeper ::)

deaf Vinnie colauita is one of the best drumers in the world. He could play jazz, rock n roll, salsa,swing anything next time you need to get more information. : ok:

Shit, then get outta here.

i didnt say he couldnt or could play anything... i SAID he isnt the only drummer primus used .. you need more information... why are you trying to bash Brain anyways??  Hes a great drummer.. the best they ever had... and you can suggest anyone YOU want but its not your band is it?

next time read correctly please.
In my opinion hes suck, if Axl is looking to get good musicians he needs to get a better drumer. i just want to hear a solo.
THATS JUST MY OPINION OK :beer:

It's Axl's decision whether or not Brain gets a solo.

So don't blame Brain for the lack of solos, blame Axl.

I know I know

he is suck? lol.. ok... why coz he doesnt play a solo?  and axl is not looking to get good musicioans.. he has the ones he wants.....  if you want to hear a solo then just watch the youtube links you posted....

oh and i can read correctly its hard to decypher broken english posts tho....

I'm not overly impressed with Brain, but Josh Freese's shoes are big shoes to fill. I still would've wanted Josh to be the drummer for GN'R. But Brain is it and since he's gonna help bring CD to the masses, I say more power to him.

Come on man, Brain is a good drummer and more than up to the task of playing with Guns. Why does someone always find something to bitch about. If it's not the drumming, it's Axl voice, how he chooses to dress, the bandana is missing or it's complaining about the other members. Face it, this is the way GN'R looks and sound now, be happy that Axl is doing this at all and stop bitching about every single thing.


ps. GN'R are my favorite band but it's not like the drumming has ever been mind blowing, you don't really need Dave Lombardo on drums. Brain is more than capable of playing in this band and he really is a pretty good drummer so I don't see what the problem is. And furthermore, GN'R actually look and sound like a band now, they are really have chemistry, so why ruin that with more changes?

Woah. At least he got this one right: "musicioans"

I find it amusing that you say this. What has any GNR fan heard of Freese other than a wishy washy OMG off of End Of Days?

if i went back and edit my typo will that make you happy? who cares anyway... Brain doesnt suck....

I would choose Josh Freeze without a doubt !!!
I don't like Brain too much...

You apparently do.

I am not sure what in my post you find amusing. Read it again, please, and revise your statement. It doesn't talk about GN'R recordings, I am refering to talent as a drummer.

not really... if some jack ass wants to post youtube and myspace links under the title "Who wants brain out" and say that Brain sucks... he just looks dumb... anyone knows brain doesnt suck... like i said this guy prolly couldnt even tap his foot on the 2 and 4 ...  so its just dumb.  more stupid threads that are becoming more and more common on this boad recently.. but nah i dont realy care... 

The way Brain butchers YCBM makes me shudder.

He is good on teh new songs and most of the old stuff, but YCBM isn't that hard and he alwasy fucks it up

As far as most people are concerned Freese was never really in GNR for him to have made a mark, or footprint for that matter with his giant shoes. I guess Casper would be hard to replace in GNR as well.

Freese was in GnR but he got away... Hes a KILLER drummer... he would have been great had he stayed... too bad really but Brain is tight.

I hate the way he did it too.

I do not care to explain my point again. Just read my posts till you understand them.

one time? he fucked it up one time... stop saying that ALWAYS fucks it up....

More than once, man, more. I kind of hope it was intentional in order to put a fresh spin on an old song, but you never know.

You're an idiot! : ok:

Wow. ?The *last* thing I want right now is for Brain, or any of the current line up, to change. ?Right when a new tour is starting and the album release might be coming, let's start hoping the lineup changes!!! ?Sorry, no way. ?The Hammerstein shows have proved that the chemistry, talent, and, most importantly - the fun - is there, and that - at long last - they consider themselves and act like a real band that enjoy working together. ?Brain's a phenominal drummer, and ?an integral part of GnR.

So, to answer the thread question...not me.

No, he is always off time

Over my head there, eh? ?:hihi:

Big shoes to fill is a common thing to say about replacing a member of a band that put his stamp on the music. That's what I'm saying.

You hold the opinion that he was the most talented. Let's say he was a hired gun for one second. You really think Brain would walk into try out a couple months later and think to himself "Gee, that Freese, how am I ever gonna fill his shoes"?

What a senseless, and pointless thread.

Brain is hands down the best drummer Gn'R has ever been graced with...I mean the guy even plays the old shit like it's absolutely nothing to him.

Sebastian said it perfectly when he said: "Hey Axl, where the fuck was this guy when you hired Matt?" :rofl:

no hes not... go get your self a metronome and a recording of him check it.. hes not...

like dirt said maybe he wants to change up the intro to YCBM, .. it could be due to anything.. his drum kit, playing style or the way he feels... he fucked it up one time and you know what time that was... but he is not off time... the dude is tight..

no kidding.. why do threads like this start anyways... who the fuck wants brain out? .. well maybe steven adler would be the only one besides the dip who started this thread....

 ::)


Whatever dude.

i think the SCOM from the Big Daddy credits had the new GNR (then at the time) do the 2nd half of the solo up to the end. And i believe josh freese was the drummer.

nice comeback... you said hes off time... no hes not.. name any other song that doesnt sound like the way it was played originaly.... 

Careful. ?You're just egging someone on to start a "who wants Axl out?" thread... ? ?:hihi:

You could be right on that. That song is not on the soundtrack though.

Amen to that.  Freese would always be good to bring back.  I like Brain a lot though.  He is a great drummer and doesn't need a fucking ten minute solo before You Could Be Mine to prove that he is.  Fuck drum solos.  Fuck them hard.

Why is that so amusing??  Just because we have only heard him do one GNR song, doesn't mean we don't know he's one of the top drummers in the world.  HMMMMMMMM... How many fucking bands has he played with??  How many sessions in the studio has he done???  I think he has more studio sessions than any other drummer in the world.  And don't say he's just a good session drummer.  I saw APC last year and I didn't watch the rest of the band at all, just Freese.  He's the best drummer I have ever seen in person.  And he had a broken foot to top it off.  Brain is great though and I'm happy he's here.

I named one.  Look at my original post.


Jesus, I'm so sick of how NOBODY on this board can have a legitimate discussion about the band.


You don't have to sackride everything about the band/songs.


Its okay to have differing opinions


And btw, many people can admit that he butchers YCBM.

Where does he butcher YCBM?

I thought he nailed it Friday...

Freese is amazing.  I heard him wiht NIN when he was filling in and it sounded better than ever

I'm referrering to every pre-Hammerstien cuz I haven't heard any quality boots of YCBM.  I'm waitng till RIR to pass judgement on this go around.

Even though I think Axl's voice is back :)

So wait until you have something....I dunno, post-2002 to judge the guy on!

Who cares if he wiggles a top hat to much, or his wang to little...the guy is the shit, no jokes : ok:

Brains one is way better than Matt's here!
it's not Brains fault the guitarplayers fuck up the intro.

and directly on topic, Brain is the best drummer to set foot in GNR. that said, there will probably never be a better drummer for GNR than Adler.
some people will think I contradict myself here, but others will understand what I mean, and to them.. : ok:

what other song.. i havent seen you name anything but YCBM....
you said he was "off time".... are just deaf? or let me guess "your a drummer too" and your opinion is that of a drummer...

many people can admit that he butchers YCBM??  many people can admit axl is fat too.. doesnt mean its true..

he fucked up the intro one time in 01 and you fans say he "Fucks it up everytime"...lol

Im sure brain would just fucking laugh at you and your opinions of his playing...like most ppl with a clue do....

I got what you were saying

You're a fucking moron that needs to learn how to read.  I said I don't like how he plays  ONE FUCKING SONG.  So why should I name another song?


I'm sorry, you know everything.  I guess everyone else should just stop posting b/c nobody but you has a clue.


Get a fucking life moron.

theres the un intelligent response i was waiting for.... 

I know what you mean with the Adler comment, but only during Appetite was he the best drummer FOR GNR (What, it took over 30 takes to get the drums right on Civil War because he was so fucked up).  Never will he be again though and thank God.  I can't stand Steven Adler anymore.

EDIT:  Guys can't we hug, make up and just try to get along???  We're fighting about if Brain fucked up the intro to YCBM and calling each other "fucking morons" because of it.  Everyone will always have differing opinions on everything here, don't take it so fucking personally all the time.  Just accept that we all have our own views and thoughts about things, and move on.

brain is an amazing drummer.  much much better than steven, perhaps better than matt, and maybe not as good as freese... i don't really know - i need to hear more from brain.  but he is by no means bushleague - here's another cool beat by brain.. check it out nuccas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J9E3k6oB4E&search=brian%20mantia

also check out "flight 19" on buckethead's bermuda triangle album.  i think that showcases some brain talent.

I"m a drummer myself (amateur, of course...but for 14 years or so) and although I've heard some snags in Brains' drumming in '02...Friday night he was dead on...ESPECIALLY with YCBM! In fact, I was waiting for that intro and he nailed it! Matt is by far a superior drummer when it comes to him and Steven, but Brain is certainly giving Matt a run for his money nowadays.

The entire band, in general, was dead on with most everything, Friday night. I really hope they've been rehearsing more new tunes from CD for future shows and these warm ups were just to blow the dust of the old classics (although I must say TWAT was fuckin' amazing on Friday!)

Still debating on whether to go tomorrow night....hmmmmmmmm.

Yeah,you've shown your intelligence.

Thats good to hear.

I just don't see them playing any different songs than what they have.  I wish they would go in there knowing 30 songs like the old band did and just play whatever they were in the mood for.  GNR has fallen into the trap of almost every single band in the world now, the same fucking setlist night after night.  Oh my god, they changed the order of the songs!!!!  That doesn't work for me and I know it doesn't work for anyone here that has been a GNR fan since the early days.  They have to rehearse more songs.  That was one of my favorite things about GNR back in the day, because you never knew what they were going to play.  Sure they had 10-15 songs that were ALWAYS in the set, but you still never knew what was in store.  And from what I have heard so far, I'm not a drummer but I am a musician with best friends that play drums (as if that counts for anything), and these last 3 shows for Brain have been great.  Like I said before, I'm really glad he is here.  That's how I feel about everyone else as well.  This is really becoming a real 'band'.  They are having a great time.  I mean look at Robin fucking crowd surfing!  Hell fucking yeah!!

yes i have.. and you have shown your lack of any... "brain is always off time"... lol...

Brain had huge shoes to fill. Mike Portnoy was more talented and Way more technically sound and schooled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ1suHblV3E&search=primus

there's Brain, you can't hear half the hi-hat stuff he does here, but damn I love his playin'!

Isn't that Dream Theatre's Drummer???  I can't really give an honest opinion on him because I'm not a big fan of Dream Theatre at all and for that reason, don't know too many songs.  Give me a couple songs to check out if you don't mind.  I have heard from many people though that he is a great drummer.

It is DT's drummer. Progressive metal. Listen to "Metropolis" for the tempo changes for starters. He could probably pull of AFD and UYI's with one arm and one leg. Big shoes to fill for Brain, right?

<Of course he wouldn't FIT well with GNR, but thats another thing alltogether>

Brain is pretty good....always liked his style from primus to gnr and a few projects between :peace:

yeah brain is great... i don't see why anyone think there's a problem with him.  he has a distinct style and can pull off all the gnr material.  and i hate it when people talk about how great dream theatre is... they're nerd metal and are nothing like gnr.  i'm sure they can play a mean instrument but i listen to that shit and i feel like i should break out a dungeons & dragons board and jack it to pictures of princess lea while i'm at it.   no offense to you fans out there

why are you bringing up him?

People bring up Josh Freese who Axl himself would say was not a member of the band and never contributed anything and say Brain had enormous shoes to fill.

So I bring up Portnoy.

Brain is fine exactly where he is  : ok:

The main problem with them, people will tell you, is that they are so technical that a grouve that musicians who gel together escapes them. Which is true to a certain extent. Let's not forget, though, that all music follows a formula, no matter how simple or complex.

Also there are players who will tell you they suck because they themselves would never be able to be in a band and play that stuff.

I enjoy different styles so I'll take both.

Freese did some rehearsals and played on OMG.... thats why they bring him up... Axl says alot of things that are not true....  Brain didnt have big shoes to fill.. they hadnt been filled for along time... 

Ok I bring up Tommy Lee.. or Neal Pert or Lars... or Joey Jordanson... lets just bring up random names.....

Why not? To me they were pretty much as big a part of GNR as Freese was. See my point?


Ah! Good man. If he had any shoes to fill, It would have been Matts and then a distant horizoned Adler (who's shoes Matt filled).

Brain is one of the greatest drummers out there. Plain and simple. Whether you want him in GNR doesn't matter, because Axl Rose does we damned well pleases.

He DID play on Oh My God. He's worthy of at least a mention surely.

yes i see the point your making... i agree freese didnt leave much on Gnr.. hes irelivant... if they never played live with them it doesnt really count...  sure Freese is one of the best drummers out there but he didnt do shit with gnr.. i agree...

but seriously why is anyone bashing brain?  the dude is tight..

I really don't mind Brain at all. The main thing I don't like is that YCBM business, and that may not even be his choice.

exactly.. i dont think Matt left much either.. he toured with them but most of the music on UYI was already written before... Adler even said that most of them are his, duff and slashes tunes... Sorum just played them the way he was told...  the only drummer to contribute was Steven.. since then its been play it the way axl says... it maybe different now tho..

yeah he'll fit in great..dumbest post ever. 

lol, all you guys make me laugh

This is what am talking about, the best drumer in the world Vinnie colauita
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE8fKhcU_ss&search=vinnie%20colaiuta

am sorry this is even better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=451YZMwYpQk&search=vinnie%20colaiuta

im not clicking on those... why dont you go to the Vinnie Colauita msg board.

dont get mad, everything is going to be ok

this is the most retarded thread ever..... :no:

everybody bitches and moans.."i want this dude out out, i want this dude in blahblahblah fucking blah", peopl never can know what that or this would sound like with different people,be happy with what u got in guns and hey its really pretty damn good what we have so shut the fuck up and jerk your i have too much time on my hands i want brain out bullshit or mother fucker we can get in the ring,,...nothing personal ..... :rant: :rofl:

People have been replaced so many times over now. Chances are slim to none it was fan orchestrated.

Dont get mad dude just relax and have fun, we all giving our opinions. Just remember this is america  (freedom of speech),
you could get in the ring anytime you want to go in the ring,you could shit anytime, and you could talk shit about me. I dont give a fuck.

who cares.  this is pointless.  nobody cares if your dream theater or (vinne whatever the shit his name is) is a good drummer or is better drummer than brain.  brain is an excellent drummer for gnr.  it would be retarded to replace him with either of those lame-asses.  we get it - some people can play things others can't.  maybe there is a little more to being a musician than just being able to everything under the sun.  some people think dave grohl is the best drummer out there, others think john frusciante is the best guitarist.... it's not all about technicalities... a lot is about style and how good the music is that those musicians create.  stop posting links of old drummers' videos... i'm not impressed

good job you are giving your opinion : ok:

Quit making these threads.   It is so dumb to keep putting the newer guys down.  I love the new songs and he's apart of that so I like him.  I think he is a good drummer and I don't want another new guy.  Let's try to make this GN'R a band.  That means being together for a while. 

Read the thread and why I mentioned the things I did. I actually agree with a couple of things you barked on about there.