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Title: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: ChinDem04 on May 07, 2006, 11:01:38 AM
I am just wondering, what is the general capacity for these shows? I dont know the differences between here in the U.S. and over in Europe. The 2002 some shows were like 25-50% full, is it like this in Europe too?


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: ARC on May 07, 2006, 11:03:32 AM
I am just wondering, what is the general capacity for these shows? I dont know the differences between here in the U.S. and over in Europe. The 2002 some shows were like 25-50% full, is it like this in Europe too?

I don't think the percentage was quite that low...

I can only comment on the time I saw Guns in 02' when there was 70 000 of us...


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: speed-stone on May 07, 2006, 11:06:13 AM
europe is selling out. ;D


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: ChinDem04 on May 07, 2006, 11:08:53 AM
Selling out? four shows right, what else is?


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: ARC on May 07, 2006, 11:17:28 AM
Selling out? four shows right, what else is?

4 shows in what 30 minutes...? not too bad if you ask me...


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: BluesGNR on May 07, 2006, 11:58:21 AM
I am just wondering, what is the general capacity for these shows? I dont know the differences between here in the U.S. and over in Europe. The 2002 some shows were like 25-50% full, is it like this in Europe too?

What shows? This should be in the touring section.


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: jarmo on May 07, 2006, 12:43:23 PM
I'd guess the majority of the European arenas are 10000+.

Some examples:

Madrid, Spain The Juan Carlos I Auditorium 13,000
Budapest, Hungary Papp L?szl? Budapest Sportar?na 12,500
Dublin, Ireland RDS Stadium 35,000.
Z?rich, Switzerland Hallenstadion 13,000
Paris, France Palais Omnisports de Paris-Bercy 15,000
Prague, Czech Republic Sazka Arena 18,000
Stockholm, Sweden Globen 13,500 sold out
Oslo, Norway Spektrum 9,700 sold out
Helsinki, Finland Hartwall Areena? 12,000 sold out x 2




/jarmo


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: PJ on May 07, 2006, 12:46:31 PM
I am just wondering, what is the general capacity for these shows? I dont know the differences between here in the U.S. and over in Europe. The 2002 some shows were like 25-50% full, is it like this in Europe too?
the lowest attendance in US was like 6000 of 14000 in northwest small cities.. after a riot...
i remember reading the average of the tour was like 70%.. and it is quite good, cuz it didnt have enough promotion or an album to support...


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: Jessica on May 07, 2006, 12:51:34 PM
If you don't mind me, i need to correct paris :

Without the stage ( for a sports thing for example) it is 17.000

But with a stage for a concert, it is around 15.000 people.

The seats behind the stage are empty and used by staff to put stuff ( usually)


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: padje on May 07, 2006, 02:32:20 PM
I'd guess the majority of the European arenas are 10000+.

Some examples:

Madrid, Spain The Juan Carlos I Auditorium 13,000
Budapest, Hungary Papp L?szl? Budapest Sportar?na 12,500
Dublin, Ireland RDS Stadium 35,000.
Z?rich, Switzerland Hallenstadion 13,000
Paris, France Palais Omnisports de Paris-Bercy 15,000
Prague, Czech Republic Sazka Arena 18,000
Stockholm, Sweden Globen 13,500 sold out
Oslo, Norway Spektrum 9,700 sold out
Helsinki, Finland Hartwall Areena? 12,000 sold out x 2

/jarmo

Some capacity numbers are kinda hard to figure out. Like the RiR-Lisboa festivalground, and the capacity of the nurnburgring and Nijmegen's Goffertpark. On Rock Am Ring and in the Goffertpark, there are no limitations... They can make the venues as big as they want to...

Although it would be nice to see 60.000 people in the Goffertpark, I think the promotor will size it down to 20.000 to 40.000 people...


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: Mr.Intensity on May 07, 2006, 02:36:43 PM
The Gnr shows in the states were always at least 75% full. : ok:


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: GunnerOne 84 on May 07, 2006, 04:06:38 PM
The Gnr shows in the states were always at least 75% full. : ok:

Were they really????? I was at Cleveland and i don't remember it being that full, but it's been a while. I thought it was half full


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: misfitx77 on May 07, 2006, 04:49:25 PM
I went to the Detroit show in 2002 and I'm pretty sure it was not 75% full.


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: BLS-Pride on May 07, 2006, 04:54:47 PM
Yeah not all the US shows were 75 percent full.


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: Origen on May 07, 2006, 04:57:16 PM
I can only comment on the time I saw Guns in 02' when there was 70 000 of us...

You seen them at a festival, all those people weren't there to see GnR


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: 1badapple on May 07, 2006, 05:01:37 PM
the 2002 show in North Dakota (Fargodome) only sold a little over 4,000. i think it was about 4,600 total. i know it was less than 5,000. It was the lowest selling show of the tour if i remember correctly.


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: gnrgnr06 on May 07, 2006, 05:13:31 PM
the 2002 show in North Dakota (Fargodome) only sold a little over 4,000. i think it was about 4,600 total. i know it was less than 5,000. It was the lowest selling show of the tour if i remember correctly.
yup something around there


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: anythinggoes on May 08, 2006, 05:15:02 AM
I'd guess the majority of the European arenas are 10000+.

Some examples:

Madrid, Spain The Juan Carlos I Auditorium 13,000
Budapest, Hungary Papp L?szl? Budapest Sportar?na 12,500
Dublin, Ireland RDS Stadium 35,000.
Z?rich, Switzerland Hallenstadion 13,000
Paris, France Palais Omnisports de Paris-Bercy 15,000
Prague, Czech Republic Sazka Arena 18,000
Stockholm, Sweden Globen 13,500 sold out
Oslo, Norway Spektrum 9,700 sold out
Helsinki, Finland Hartwall Areena? 12,000 sold out x 2




/jarmo

Ah maybe that explains why Dublin is not sold out then and Stolkholm Oslo and Helsinki are thanks for that puts it into perspective now


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: SADIS on May 08, 2006, 05:23:20 AM
I'd guess the majority of the European arenas are 10000+.

Some examples:

Madrid, Spain The Juan Carlos I Auditorium 13,000
Budapest, Hungary Papp L?szl? Budapest Sportar?na 12,500
Dublin, Ireland RDS Stadium 35,000.
Z?rich, Switzerland Hallenstadion 13,000
Paris, France Palais Omnisports de Paris-Bercy 15,000
Prague, Czech Republic Sazka Arena 18,000
Stockholm, Sweden Globen 13,500 sold out
Oslo, Norway Spektrum 9,700 sold out
Helsinki, Finland Hartwall Areena? 12,000 sold out x 2

/jarmo

Some capacity numbers are kinda hard to figure out. Like the RiR-Lisboa festivalground, and the capacity of the nurnburgring and Nijmegen's Goffertpark. On Rock Am Ring and in the Goffertpark, there are no limitations... They can make the venues as big as they want to...

Although it would be nice to see 60.000 people in the Goffertpark, I think the promotor will size it down to 20.000 to 40.000 people...

Do you have any idea on how many tickets have already been sold for the gig in Nijmegen? I have this bad feeling it's not selling too well.


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: padje on May 08, 2006, 05:40:35 AM
Mojo won't release any sales figures... Guess we have to wait and see how many people turn up there... Remember the gig that was supposed to be held in the Gelredome in Arnhem? It had a 30.000+ capacity, and was sold out in only a couple of weeks. I expect quite a few people to still being upset about that cancellation, but 20.000 should be possible...


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: SADIS on May 08, 2006, 05:56:52 AM
Mojo won't release any sales figures... Guess we have to wait and see how many people turn up there... Remember the gig that was supposed to be held in the Gelredome in Arnhem? It had a 30.000+ capacity, and was sold out in only a couple of weeks. I expect quite a few people to still being upset about that cancellation, but 20.000 should be possible...

Wow, that much? Cause the funny thing is I haven't met anyone yet who said he was going. I live in Rotterdam so there's not much of GnR's target-audience living there if you know what I mean, but i sure hope there's gonna be a big audience. Otherwise we can forget them ever coming back.

Wish I was there in '87 when they played Paradiso in Amsterdam. I was only 7 years old but it still would've been cool...


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: padje on May 08, 2006, 06:14:40 AM
Wow, that much? Cause the funny thing is I haven't met anyone yet who said he was going. I live in Rotterdam so there's not much of GnR's target-audience living there if you know what I mean, but i sure hope there's gonna be a big audience. Otherwise we can forget them ever coming back.

Wish I was there in '87 when they played Paradiso in Amsterdam. I was only 7 years old but it still would've been cool...

20.000 can be done, for sure... The question is if the timing is right. I mean, the concert is on a sunday... GN'R main target-audience is gonna have either go the school (for the new fans) or go to work (for the old fans) the next day... I hope that won't break em up. Clearly Mojo must have thaught of that too, right?

I wished I was there in Paradiso too... Although de Kuip or Goffertpark in 1992 and 1993 would have been ok for me too...? :peace:


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: SADIS on May 08, 2006, 06:58:36 AM
Wow, that much? Cause the funny thing is I haven't met anyone yet who said he was going. I live in Rotterdam so there's not much of GnR's target-audience living there if you know what I mean, but i sure hope there's gonna be a big audience. Otherwise we can forget them ever coming back.

Wish I was there in '87 when they played Paradiso in Amsterdam. I was only 7 years old but it still would've been cool...

20.000 can be done, for sure... The question is if the timing is right. I mean, the concert is on a sunday... GN'R main target-audience is gonna have either go the school (for the new fans) or go to work (for the old fans) the next day... I hope that won't break em up. Clearly Mojo must have thaught of that too, right?

I wished I was there in Paradiso too... Although de Kuip or Goffertpark in 1992 and 1993 would have been ok for me too...? :peace:

It's on a sunday? I hadn't even checked that out. But Sunday is a good day these days. Lots of people go out on a Sunday night, especially the younger crowd. And I guess there will also be alot of German fans cuase it's pretty close to Germany.


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: nesquick on May 08, 2006, 07:01:06 AM
Paris-Bercy is 17.000, not 15.000.


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: WARose on May 08, 2006, 09:01:35 AM
Wow, that much? Cause the funny thing is I haven't met anyone yet who said he was going. I live in Rotterdam so there's not much of GnR's target-audience living there if you know what I mean, but i sure hope there's gonna be a big audience. Otherwise we can forget them ever coming back.

Wish I was there in '87 when they played Paradiso in Amsterdam. I was only 7 years old but it still would've been cool...

20.000 can be done, for sure... The question is if the timing is right. I mean, the concert is on a sunday... GN'R main target-audience is gonna have either go the school (for the new fans) or go to work (for the old fans) the next day... I hope that won't break em up. Clearly Mojo must have thaught of that too, right?

I wished I was there in Paradiso too... Although de Kuip or Goffertpark in 1992 and 1993 would have been ok for me too...  :peace:

It's on a sunday? I hadn't even checked that out. But Sunday is a good day these days. Lots of people go out on a Sunday night, especially the younger crowd. And I guess there will also be alot of German fans cuase it's pretty close to Germany.

yeah i`ll be there with some mates : ok:


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: gandra on May 08, 2006, 09:37:52 AM
Paris-Bercy is 17.000, not 15.000.

on ticketseller site you could see that only 1055 tickets available,so that show will be sellout for a sure!!!
I asked budampest arena about selling,and they saaid me that gnr show is the most wantied show,btw in budampest would be play this summer(rhcp,enrique iglesias,u2...)

so this euro tour have a great selling for a sure


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: Ines_rocks! on May 08, 2006, 10:19:20 AM
concerning RiR I will not sell out, in fact, any of the days will, at least that?s what I think and in 2004 that didn?t happen as well... That?s due the fact that RiR is soo big, it can put so many ppl there, so yeah it will not sell out but sure many ppl will be there. I hope! I know that the GN?R day is the 3rd day most sold in the tickets office so... ;)


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: Deez Nuts on May 08, 2006, 10:50:40 AM
the 2002 show in North Dakota (Fargodome) only sold a little over 4,000. i think it was about 4,600 total. i know it was less than 5,000. It was the lowest selling show of the tour if i remember correctly.

This is a dead horse but yeah this venue/city was a disaster attendence wise.? There's no humanly way possible to say that all the shows were 75% capacity if you were at this show.? The floor was full, along with about 10 rows on the sides and back.? The Fargodome holds 18,000 for a sporting event, around 14,000 for this concert.?

To say that this concert was at 33% capacity would be stretching it.?

Damn those Scandinavian countries eat up their GNR tickets, they're all sold out.? Do they sell lutefisk at the concession stands during the concert or does Axl still have that big of draw?


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: holtzmn73 on May 08, 2006, 01:20:43 PM
the 2002 show in North Dakota (Fargodome) only sold a little over 4,000. i think it was about 4,600 total. i know it was less than 5,000. It was the lowest selling show of the tour if i remember correctly.

I thought the Nampa, Idaho show was even less than that. I went to Fargo, Mpls, Moline and Chicago on the '02 tour, Chicago was sold out but the others were in the 5-6000 range.


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: Jessica on May 08, 2006, 05:03:09 PM
Paris-Bercy is 17.000, not 15.000.

Look, i know people who DESIGNED the place, if i say it is 15.000 for a concert, it is, ENTIENDO ?

 :rant:


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: Tyson on May 14, 2006, 01:18:41 PM
   Anyone?  Just curious to see how all the non sellouts are fairing.  BTW, saw them at Hammerstein on Friday and am still blown away!


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: Lara on May 14, 2006, 01:22:48 PM
You can see the sold-outs at the Tour Dates section of HTGTH.
About the Show in Prague, there are 3200 tickets left.


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: Tyson on May 14, 2006, 01:31:49 PM
How many total tickets were for sal in Prague?


Title: Re: Capacity of venues / ticket sales
Post by: bolton on May 14, 2006, 02:19:24 PM
How many total tickets were for sal in Prague?
about 30000
in paris 1000 tickets left,15000 capacity
in budampest about 500 tickets left of 13000
these tour nwill kick ass