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Title: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: Irish rose on May 11, 2006, 06:18:57 PM Hello folks
I've got approximately 2000 euro to spend on a nice amp. I'd like your suggestionsif you dont mind... I like Slash / Blues type music. I had a look at a marshall half stack. Are half stacks too loud for bedroom playing is basically my other question? Thanks in advance Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: Captain P?l on May 11, 2006, 06:22:17 PM you can play softly with a half stack, but if you are not gonna use it other places than in your bedroom you can ust buy a combo instead.... they are cheaper and kick ass for practise
Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: alexh0618 on May 11, 2006, 06:44:09 PM Plus, an all tube Marshall-or any other tube amp- will sound best when played loud.
Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: Irish rose on May 11, 2006, 06:56:07 PM Plus, an all tube Marshall-or any other tube amp- will sound best when played loud. Thats what I suspected! What do u guys think of the marhshall dsl 401 tube combo?? I heard its really nice but gets quite hot. And I dont think smaller combos would need to be played as loud as a half stack in order to get that nice tone? Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: AXL 20 on May 11, 2006, 07:11:38 PM peavey valveking 212
Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: darkmonth on May 12, 2006, 12:33:04 PM Plus, an all tube Marshall-or any other tube amp- will sound best when played loud. Thats what I suspected! What do u guys think of the marhshall dsl 401 tube combo?? I heard its really nice but gets quite hot. And I dont think smaller combos would need to be played as loud as a half stack in order to get that nice tone? I have a JCM900 4500 and it's fucking incredible ... I used to own a TSL60 Head and that was fucking sweet too ... but not as nice as my 900... I sold the TSL to put cash towards my 900 Head. :D Slash sounds GALORE! Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on May 12, 2006, 03:34:04 PM A tube amp in a bedroom=a waste of money and gear.
Go with a nice tube combo amp. : ok: Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: Irish rose on May 12, 2006, 03:46:15 PM A tube amp in a bedroom=a waste of money and gear. Go with a nice tube combo amp. : ok: Can you recommend a nice tube combo? Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: AXL 20 on May 12, 2006, 06:06:53 PM A tube amp in a bedroom=a waste of money and gear. Go with a nice tube combo amp. : ok: Can you recommend a nice tube combo? peavey valveking 212 Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: alexh0618 on May 12, 2006, 07:41:00 PM Plus, an all tube Marshall-or any other tube amp- will sound best when played loud. Thats what I suspected! What do u guys think of the marhshall dsl 401 tube combo?? I heard its really nice but gets quite hot. And I dont think smaller combos would need to be played as loud as a half stack in order to get that nice tone? That should be a good choice if you have the money. You can get a good deal if you find one used. They easily go for under $1000 used. Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: Miz on May 12, 2006, 10:05:20 PM Peavey JSX. Most versatile amp in the world. Get the combo or a head w/ cab. If you've got the money there should be no other amp you want to buy.
Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: darkmonth on May 13, 2006, 08:32:53 PM A tube amp in a bedroom=a waste of money and gear. Go with a nice tube combo amp. : ok: You just contradicted yourself!!! A tube combo IS a tube amp!!! LOL! Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: Genesis on May 15, 2006, 02:22:58 AM A tube amp in a bedroom=a waste of money and gear. Go with a nice tube combo amp. : ok: You just contradicted yourself!!! A tube combo IS a tube amp!!! LOL! He probably was referring to ur tube amp heads. Tube combos are somewhat ok for bedroom playing... Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: ATREAL1_1 on May 15, 2006, 05:12:18 AM Get a Vox AC-30 and a THD Hot Plate. That will take care of your noise problems and give you the sweet cranked tube sound. Trust me
Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on May 15, 2006, 08:57:11 AM A tube amp in a bedroom=a waste of money and gear. Go with a nice tube combo amp. : ok: You just contradicted yourself!!! A tube combo IS a tube amp!!! LOL! He probably was referring to ur tube amp heads. Tube combos are somewhat ok for bedroom playing... Correct. You can get a tube combo amp, but I personally wouldn't get anything louder than 50 watts for a bedroom. I would shoot for 30 watts. Or go with a hot plate like the person above mentioned. Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: darkmonth on May 15, 2006, 01:23:06 PM A tube amp in a bedroom=a waste of money and gear. Go with a nice tube combo amp. : ok: You just contradicted yourself!!! A tube combo IS a tube amp!!! LOL! Yeah I know... it's just that after years and years of honing my equipment to perfection I like to see people say the right things :D He probably was referring to ur tube amp heads. Tube combos are somewhat ok for bedroom playing... Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on May 15, 2006, 02:26:13 PM A tube amp in a bedroom=a waste of money and gear. Go with a nice tube combo amp. : ok: You just contradicted yourself!!! A tube combo IS a tube amp!!! LOL! Yeah I know... it's just that after years and years of honing my equipment to perfection I like to see people say the right things :D He probably was referring to ur tube amp heads. Tube combos are somewhat ok for bedroom playing... Then what would you suggest for a bedroom amp then? A 120 watt half stack that you can't turn up past 1? Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: AXL 20 on May 15, 2006, 05:30:25 PM I don't turn my tube combo past 2 at all pretty much. They are loud. If youy wont leave your bedroom shoot below 70watts.
^well i would but my parents would kill me. Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: Chodem on May 15, 2006, 11:31:28 PM If you dont mind spending a lot of money, these little guys sound great, especially for Slash/Bluesy tone:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Marshall-Silver-Jubilee-JCM-2558-25-50-Watts-Guitar-Amp_W0QQitemZ7413291236QQcategoryZ38075QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I have the silver jubilee 100/50w head and even at 50w it's so loud that the neighbors get upset. The combo I showed above can be switched down to 25w so you can probably get some decent bedroom playing out of it. Just a thought! Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: MeanBone on May 16, 2006, 06:30:38 AM Buy a Marshall Plexi JMP from the late 70's that's the best sounding amp Marshall ever did.
and that's slash's tone all the way, and a lot more. Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: bombingrun on May 16, 2006, 01:58:22 PM If your spending that sort of money you should have no probs getting a nice amp, you just need to make sure you get the right nice amp!
What are you going to use the amp for?? Small gigs? Bedroom practise? Both? yeah Marshall make some lovely amps but there are other companies that will deliver cool rock sounds too. Maybe think about a Cornford Hurrcine :drool: or an Orange amp they are both lovely. Also consider the type of venues you're playing - there's no point running a 100w stack and a 4x12 cab with the volume set at 2 becuase the sound tech told you to turn it down to reduce spill. Maybe consider going for a 30w combo with 2x12 or 2x10 running at 3/4 volume, that way you can mike up if you need more vol and still get a better tone from pushing the valves and the speakers. You can even get 50w combos like the custom shop Hiwatt Studio/Stage that are switchable to 20w which is handy for band pratises and smaller gigs. Get what you need, if you need an amp for at home get a small practise amp (Minimat is lush or a Laney L15 might do the job) or if your gigging get a proper gigging amp. Don't use your giging amp for practising at home, it may cost you a fortune getting it revalved all the time. At the end of the day, you need to try as many as possible with your own pedals and guitar - you'll know the right one as soon as you play it. :) Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on May 16, 2006, 02:00:21 PM He's just looking for a bedroom amp.
Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: bombingrun on May 16, 2006, 02:42:46 PM 2000euro is a hell of a lot for a bedroom amp!! :o
Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: AXL 20 on May 16, 2006, 02:54:22 PM how could i forget! The jubilee's are AMAZING!. it is slash's amp and sounds so good. Anytime i hear it im attracted to it. I was wathcing the video for Dani california-RHCP and during the solo i was like "i like this guys tone" guess what amp head he was using? yup a Jubilee. Same thing happened with a black crowes video (even though they suck)
go for it! Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: Irish rose on May 16, 2006, 05:13:43 PM Thanks for all the replys so far people! Lots to ponder! Yeah its defo a bedroom amp im looking for. I have a Marshall mg 30dfx at the moment which I dont like, so I really wanna get something nice. :)
So have many of you guys had any experience playing the jubilee?? And wheres the best place to find them on the net? I'm looking for a combo. If your spending that sort of money you should have no probs getting a nice amp, you just need to make sure you get the right nice amp! What are you going to use the amp for?? Small gigs? Bedroom practise? Both? yeah Marshall make some lovely amps but there are other companies that will deliver cool rock sounds too. Maybe think about a Cornford Hurrcine :drool: or an Orange amp they are both lovely. Also consider the type of venues you're playing - there's no point running a 100w stack and a 4x12 cab with the volume set at 2 becuase the sound tech told you to turn it down to reduce spill. Maybe consider going for a 30w combo with 2x12 or 2x10 running at 3/4 volume, that way you can mike up if you need more vol and still get a better tone from pushing the valves and the speakers. You can even get 50w combos like the custom shop Hiwatt Studio/Stage that are switchable to 20w which is handy for band pratises and smaller gigs. Get what you need, if you need an amp for at home get a small practise amp (Minimat is lush or a Laney L15 might do the job) or if your gigging get a proper gigging amp. Don't use your giging amp for practising at home, it may cost you a fortune getting it revalved all the time. At the end of the day, you need to try as many as possible with your own pedals and guitar - you'll know the right one as soon as you play it. :) some good advice there! Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: AXL 20 on May 17, 2006, 03:23:15 PM Thanks for all the replys so far people! Lots to ponder! Yeah its defo a bedroom amp im looking for. I have a Marshall mg 30dfx at the moment which I dont like, so I really wanna get something nice. :) So have many of you guys had any experience playing the jubilee?? And wheres the best place to find them on the net? I'm looking for a combo. If your spending that sort of money you should have no probs getting a nice amp, you just need to make sure you get the right nice amp! What are you going to use the amp for?? Small gigs? Bedroom practise? Both? yeah Marshall make some lovely amps but there are other companies that will deliver cool rock sounds too. Maybe think about a Cornford Hurrcine :drool: or an Orange amp they are both lovely. Also consider the type of venues you're playing - there's no point running a 100w stack and a 4x12 cab with the volume set at 2 becuase the sound tech told you to turn it down to reduce spill. Maybe consider going for a 30w combo with 2x12 or 2x10 running at 3/4 volume, that way you can mike up if you need more vol and still get a better tone from pushing the valves and the speakers. You can even get 50w combos like the custom shop Hiwatt Studio/Stage that are switchable to 20w which is handy for band pratises and smaller gigs. Get what you need, if you need an amp for at home get a small practise amp (Minimat is lush or a Laney L15 might do the job) or if your gigging get a proper gigging amp. Don't use your giging amp for practising at home, it may cost you a fortune getting it revalved all the time. At the end of the day, you need to try as many as possible with your own pedals and guitar - you'll know the right one as soon as you play it. :) some good advice there! the man with the most jubilee experience is Slash, and he used them exculsively post AFD and before VR. Ebay is your pretty much only way to get them. Search either Jubilee or Slash under musical instruments. Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: Irish rose on May 17, 2006, 03:41:34 PM Thanks for all the replys so far people! Lots to ponder! Yeah its defo a bedroom amp im looking for. I have a Marshall mg 30dfx at the moment which I dont like, so I really wanna get something nice. :) So have many of you guys had any experience playing the jubilee?? And wheres the best place to find them on the net? I'm looking for a combo. If your spending that sort of money you should have no probs getting a nice amp, you just need to make sure you get the right nice amp! What are you going to use the amp for?? Small gigs? Bedroom practise? Both? yeah Marshall make some lovely amps but there are other companies that will deliver cool rock sounds too. Maybe think about a Cornford Hurrcine :drool: or an Orange amp they are both lovely. Also consider the type of venues you're playing - there's no point running a 100w stack and a 4x12 cab with the volume set at 2 becuase the sound tech told you to turn it down to reduce spill. Maybe consider going for a 30w combo with 2x12 or 2x10 running at 3/4 volume, that way you can mike up if you need more vol and still get a better tone from pushing the valves and the speakers. You can even get 50w combos like the custom shop Hiwatt Studio/Stage that are switchable to 20w which is handy for band pratises and smaller gigs. Get what you need, if you need an amp for at home get a small practise amp (Minimat is lush or a Laney L15 might do the job) or if your gigging get a proper gigging amp. Don't use your giging amp for practising at home, it may cost you a fortune getting it revalved all the time. At the end of the day, you need to try as many as possible with your own pedals and guitar - you'll know the right one as soon as you play it. :) some good advice there! the man with the most jubilee experience is Slash, and he used them exculsively post AFD and before VR. Ebay is your pretty much only way to get them. Search either Jubilee or Slash under musical instruments. Thanks man, i'll check em out Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: W 23 AXL II on May 17, 2006, 06:22:27 PM get a Line 6 2x12 Flextone III
u have tons of options, and if u just want a Slash setting, its already programmed in!!! Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: AXL 20 on May 18, 2006, 03:30:23 PM get a Line 6 2x12 Flextone III u have tons of options, and if u just want a Slash setting, its already programmed in!!! yeah but theres no substitute for tubes Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: AXL 20 on May 18, 2006, 03:49:34 PM heres what i could find. You might have to "settle" for a stack. in my opinion greatest amp ever made (besides slash's mysterious rental amp). but i am doehard slash fan.
Full Stack: http://cgi.ebay.com/Marshall-Jubilee-25-50-Silver-Aniversary-Full-Stack_W0QQitemZ7416188145QQcategoryZ38075QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 1x12 combo: http://cgi.ebay.com/Marshall-Jubilee-2554-50-watt-1x12-combo-tube-amp_W0QQitemZ7413902195QQcategoryZ38075QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem thats about it. keep your eyes peeled Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: Irish rose on May 18, 2006, 06:50:59 PM heres what i could find. You might have to "settle" for a stack. in my opinion greatest amp ever made (besides slash's mysterious rental amp). but i am doehard slash fan. Full Stack: http://cgi.ebay.com/Marshall-Jubilee-25-50-Silver-Aniversary-Full-Stack_W0QQitemZ7416188145QQcategoryZ38075QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 1x12 combo: http://cgi.ebay.com/Marshall-Jubilee-2554-50-watt-1x12-combo-tube-amp_W0QQitemZ7413902195QQcategoryZ38075QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem thats about it. keep your eyes peeled Holy shit man! I can only imagine what my folks would think if I brought that full stack into the house! Title: Re: Advice on an amp please.. Post by: AXL 20 on May 19, 2006, 04:53:06 PM well if i were spending that much of THEIR money they would make me live in the damn thing!
you could always sell one of the cabs and get some money back and have a half stack |