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My suspicions are that Axl will not play any new songs that we have not heard yet.

He has to be aware that the show willl probably be bootlegged, and all over the net.

When I saw them in Vegas '02, I waas hoping for new material, and got the same as the year before, except, Madagascar replacing Rhiad. I dont even think he will playh Rhiad this time.

I wonder if he is banking on people being so surprised at seeing Izzy with the band that they will not give a fuk if he doesn't play any unheard material.

What do you guys think?

obviously, YES!

not hearing any new songs would be a disapointment.

shit i want to hear new songs... now i dont want izzy to show up  :no:

Hopefully he'll bring out those "big guns" he said he would have in the 02 tour.

Im not too worried though because Ive got my fingers crossed that CD will be out soon.

What Id really like to hear is more UYI stuff actually.

my guess i same set list as 02... no new songs... and izzy will be a no show.... thats my guess anyways

are you fucking kidding me ?

for christ sake once you idiots hear any news that might sound the least bit opptimistic theres always morons that go around thinking too much into the situation and get freaked out. then they post about it and freak other people out.

BE THANKFUL THERE IS A SHOW PERIOD !? :rant:

Izzy will be at at least one of the four NY shows.

They will play some new tunes.

That's how I see it.

I wish i was as optomistic as you are....

no. ?i want to hear new music ?8)

I don't think so but it's an interesting theory....but that would mean that izzy's appearance was planned way long ago...I get the impression that it was a spur of the moment kinda meeting for his b-day

I whole hearted second from me on that one. I mean JESUS.....how about if there were NO SHOW AT ALL?! Would you rather May 12 happen like it did last year and the year before? With no GNR show at all?

dont you think that if you hear new songs at these shows CD is going to be a "no-suprise"?

no... coz i dont think that all the new songs they play live will be on the first album.... he said he has alot of songs.. i dont want to hear all the album but i dont want to hear Madagascar or the Blues for the 1000000 th time either..

It's hard to say because going by what Axl said, it's possible (though unlikely) that we haven't heard a single song from CD yet because track listings for CD keep changing etc so we may have not heard many CD tracks at all and any new songs played may be from later albums.

I want to think he will come out of the gate swinging but I doubt it. At least not till the fall US tour when CD is suppose to be ready for release. Maybe one or two songs.. Most likely the ones that have been leaked. I can't see him pulling out a "big gun".

Axl spoke about Izzy being at the shows just a few days ago(you might have heard about it), and I don't think he was lying when he said he didn't know if he would actually be there or not. He's not gonna depend on him showing up,imo. But what do you do if you're Axl? Play basically the same setlist as 2002, encouraging the media and some fans to bitch about it? Or do you put new stuff out there, knowing full well that it WILL be recorded by people, and spread all over the net?

I think for new songs they will play the ones from 2002 (maddy, cd, blues) and the leaks (twat, irs, citr, better). The songs are already all over the net, so I dont think Axl would care if the show got bootlegged.

Axl said his current fave new songs are Better, TWAT and the blues, I think he wil want to see how they sound live

Axl said he was pushed into the other concerts thats why he played the old songs he wasnt ready for the new ones to be released ... im confident that he'll play the new ones ... as he said his is his time

Wow. GREAT post...I hadn't even thought about that. If he's ready for this then we should get the whole shebang!

That's my take on it too. 

Besides, even if he decided to fly to Trinidad at the last minute and not show up, it has nothing to do with the band playing their own material....  He can jam with them if he wants to.  They're obviously going to rehearse and play old and new material with or without him.

Izzy may be there for a couple shows...if so, I would think he'd come out for a classic or 2.  Maybe the encore
I can see him play brownstone and maybe patience with the band.  we shall see

regardless if Izzy is there or not, I really do think we'll hear some new tunes.

Hopefully, I love the old songs but I believe its time to move on  :yes:

you will when the album comes out.

yea but i dont want to wait 4 more years.. i want it NOW NOW!! mother FuCKING NOW@@@!!!!1!one111SH1FT+1!!11
nah actually.. it woud be kewl if they played new tracks friday... yeah... that would be sweet.  :hihi:

as much as id LOVE to see izzy(he was my fav) id rather hear 8-10 of the newer songs. they all rock and its time to release it to those who have never heard

And have been patiently waiting for a decade :yes: I hope to hear some new stuff in Paris :peace:

Besides, Axl already said on Trunk's radio show that they were going to play Madagascar, so I think we can expect some other new tunes.

2002 was too early for him to play more new sings... gimme a break  :confused:

I guess we'll hear some of the leaks and the old new songs. Mostly AFD material though.

I want to hear Fortus play double talking jive

my guess is that it will be the same setlist as in 2002. It's only logical because there's no album  to promote

Even if they go with that school of thought, they could still really mix up the setlist. I mean there's TONS of released GNR they didn't even go near.

Yeah but your assuming we can't have both Izzy play a few songs and have new songs played.

Infact didn't you get that theory from another post in this thread  :rofl: We don't know what will happen so try not to sound so paranoid about it  : ok:

yeah right thats what he's hoping for. :P

i like axl but sometimes hes full ?of shit. what does he mean by " i wasnt ready"? ??? 9 years to get ready(since 1993). hey axl the clock is ticking n you're only getting older.

axl won't play any new song we haven't heard yet if he hasn't the album ready to release. I mean we have heard a lot of new songs, probably half of CD, so he won't give us the rest until CD is finished.

They played new songs for 4 months in 1991 before UYI came out, and honestly there was a bigger anticipation than beyond the average fan base then there is now for CD. So why couldnt they unleash a whole bunch of new stuff on us?

These are warm up shows, the first chance for the band to see what translates well from the studio to the stage, I expect to be hearing alot of new songs over the next 6 nights.

i hope they play twat, better, irs, citr ... and maybe 2 or 3 others we havent heard yet ... izzy or no izzy

how do you know that all or none of the new songs are gonna be on the final album???

i bet we will hear a few songs that leaked, just our luck to not hear something brand new..

I agree.  Nothing we haven't heard will probably not be played.  Think about everyone, it's Axl Rose we are talking about here.  How many times as GNR fans have we been let down?  Way too fucking many to count.  I wouldn't be surprised if it was almost the identical setlist from '02.  That's how it was from Vegas and Rio in '01 to the 2002 tour.  Almost everything was the same.  They will play the same 10 Appetite songs they always do and November Rain, You Could Be Mine, Live and Let Die, KOHD from the Illusions and then Patience.  It's so predictable.  I hope to hell I am very wrong though and we do get to hear some new stuff but at this point it seems so unlikely, with or without Izzy.  Izzy being there will not make a difference between what new songs we get to hear.  Axl is so protective over his new songs.  He may pick songs that he feels he can sing well too.  I hope is voice is ok this time around.  When I saw them in '02, it was the best thing I have ever witnessed.  Axl is the fucking man.

We are all obviously greatful for shows, otherwise we wouldn't be here. We just don't understand the point of new shows if there is no new music to accompany it.

I really wish this time we had the album first, it would be nice to know how the songs sound in the studio then compare them live..

Axl is so tight with that album I don't know if he can part with the music if there's nothing coming out soon.. He already knows we hear the leaks so there's nothing to lose there

Thats how I feel about the leaks. I still think that some of them were done of purpose anyways. Either way, everyone on the damn planet already has CITR, TWAT (multiple versions), IRS & Better anyways so what harm could come in playing them live??

I dunno, but I'm hoping they play at least ONE unheard song. (of course I would like to hear more than that, but one is better than nothing)

this whole discussion is all speculation. WE KNOW NOTHING ALL WE DO ON THIS BOARD IS ASSUME AND GEUSS. we will wait and see what happens tommorow .

there is no harm ,no risk at all... It'll be like 2002... I am sure they will play a few of the leaks...

izzy aint the new guitarist, i think some people are forgetting izzy left the band coz he didnt want to do big shows, but im sure he'll jam with them

As far as Izzy "making up" for not playing new songs, I really don't think too many people outside of the rabid GNR nation would be disappointed if all they  played was old material.

Shoeboy

I personally dont understand why yall are worryin about what songs they play, just enjoy the show and go along with the ride, I could care less what songs they play and I'd like to see izzy there, that'd be nice