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Has anyone noticed that on maddy, better, citr, I.R.S., TWAT, OMG all have the same sorta beats?? ?:hihi: :-*
they make the tracks sound a bit better IMO.

yeah   they`re cool : ok:

I haven't noticed that all of those songs have the same beats at all.....................

They're ok. I don't really think them as "hip-hop" beats, more like industrial-rock (very NIN influenced).

I haven't noticed it.



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yo Axl, blad.

not the exact same beats but.. hip hop beats...

TWAT has the heave Hip Hop beats intro IMO.
IRS has some loops beats , CITI and BETTER dont have ?beats .

I think they are pretty cooll ...

u must have the wrong versions. or just the clean ones.

What are "Hip Hop Beats" ?

Yeah, they add a smoothness to the songs. I like hip-hop beats, I just hate rappers...

maybe its because they are using drum machines

The TWAT intro is a Hip Hop beats .

listen to 02 vma's madagascar. u can hear "da beats"

Some annoying noise.

:o liar

To tell you the truth, I prefer real drums. Beats sound too "dry" to me.

Correct. End of debate.

(They are using computer beats to make demo's with - as MANY bands do. Don't think they will sound like this on the final record)

Obviously the leaks had a drum machine, but 'Madagascar' does have a hip-hop drum loop...

Do you realy think the TWAT intro is a drum machine ?! is not  there for a reason ?!
the leaks had a drum machine, but some beats are there for a reason like the TWAT intro and the loops on IRS
MADASGASCAR does have hip - hop and dum loop ... i think you will be very disapoint on the record ...

Yes, I know this Einstein.

And, no, I won't be disappointed if they are like that on the record as I think they FUCKING ROCK.

I don't know about you, but the disco beat to Oh My God is the greatest part of the entire song, and it's genius. I absolutely love that fucking disco beat.

:o fuck yea  : ok:

I have noticed these 'hip hop' beats, as you call them. It's obviously a drum machine used to produce demos. I do believe 'Catcher in the Rye' has a proper drum beat to it though. 'Madagascar' appears to have a falsetto beat entwined into it's rythym but I think it works well with the song.

I really wouldn't mind GNR playing a new version live, one that was much more practiced and performed well than the half-ass shit kicker '01 version. Plus, Brain didn't play the beat right. He used the snare. I can play the entire song on drums and there's NO snare on the disco beat.

Anyway, disco beats and techno beats own. SIMPLE PLAN BLOWS. : ok: ;)

Can you please explain what a falsetto beat is? Sorry, I'm not the greatest person with music vocabulary. I never learned how to read sheet music, even though I play piano quite fluently.

do't know much about drumming but isn't Brain big on that kinda beat? It's "the thing" right now, has been for years. Don't bother me none in fact I enjoy that style of drumming : ok:

Who cares.

Axl Rose could have the worst players in the world and he would still make it a great band. The guys genius, period.

Quite right. But still, the hip-hop beats are insanely good. I have the loops myself. I can send them to you if you PM me. The only loop I don't have is I.R.S.

This is somewhat a bone of contention for me. Not that I have anything against hip hop, but I think these flourishes will date Chinese Democracy if thyre not used extremly sparingly.

Axl needs to put out something timeless sounding, not something that you listen to in years to come and can hear very specific influences of a given era or trend

yeah, I think they sound a bit generic and un-original but as someone said, they are demo's and hopefully not how they turn up on the finished product, if it is ever finished

generic & un-original? who has made anything that compares to the new leaks./demos in a long ass time?? if you wanna talk generic & un-orginal listen to slither & fall to pieces or anything on contaband for that matter.? but then again you probably love those songs!

hell the beats on the songs sound cool to me,I don't think of them as hip-hop beats,but whatever  :beer:

just the drum machine man, chill out

I would have to agree with Jimmy and classic. I am not a big fan of the intro beats to Twat or the beats in Maddy and Irs. Citr and Better are fine but the others just seem to be trying to hard to incorporate yourself in to some form of dated trend at this point. Let the Gorrilaz do that. Axl needs to come back more like U2 with a classic sound---at least on the first record. The synthesizer and keyboard effects are fine-like in CITR, Chinese, Rhiad, and some of Maddy. But, Twat could use a little more of a classic feel at the beginning and Irs should be just straight up rock with the keyboard effects mixed in. Bands like Coldplay and Green Day have recently showed that you can sell 4-5 million units in the US without any "hip hop" beats. Axl needs to play to his strength-melody. :beer:

twat has that wutang beat

These songs are no more Hip Hop than Radiohead. Nobody calls Radiohead Hip Hop. Also, with all the Hip hop that has been vomiting out of the record industries mouth these days, I prefer to call it Shit Hop.

And no, I am not saying this stuff sounds like Radiohead, I am just saying Thom yorke does it and everyone calls it experimental GN'R do it and everyone says they're trying to hard.

Good point...and being that I am a huge Radiohead fan, I don't like some of their "beats" either. Radiohead also doesn't sell as many records as Green Day or Coldplay...which is the type of success I am sure Axl is looking for! ;D

but none of the "beats" compare to the cowbell...

I don't like these beats they make the new songs worse

cowbell's so last year.

I've only noticed on Madagascar, Oh My God & TWAT...

its making a comeback i hear...

I was a little bummed out, cause I expected Chinese Democarcy to be a groundbreaking new album with stuff I never heard before.

To me its like they are just runnin with the Joneses.

Dont Worry!  :) If theres more tracks like "better" on CD it WILL do just fine!  ;)

i love the drums beats on/and the new songs. the beats simply fit perfectly imo. it`s not about what you use, but how you use it and axl`s definitely doing a great job i think.

and @ jimmythegent and neemo: axl doesn`t need to do anything. he probably doesn`t care if he`s "the rock god" again. he does what he wants and fortunately, that`s the kind of music i really waited for, expected and of course like. the first song from the new gnr i ever heard, was "oh my god", like three or three and a half years ago and i instantely fell in love with it and couldn`t understand why some many people dislike it. i guess the main reason for that is what people liked of the old gnr and what they expected or at least wanted axl to sound like with this new album. axl mentioned all this "beats" kind of stuff in an interview in 99 or 2000 allready by the way : ok:

a friend of mine listened to oh my god by accident ( i forgot my mp3 player at his house...) and he thought it was better than anything of the previous gnr material. he also downloaded the leaks without me telling him about them and he  loves them. he said that the old gnr stuff is great music and cool and stuff, but this new stuff is really mature and simply awesome. i always had the impression he didn`t like gnr until he told me about that by the way..... :peace:

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