Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I did listen to the entire Axl radio show, so I am not sure this is considered news or not but.....

Around 10:35 pm tonight, I was listening to DJ Matt Court on Philadelphia rock station 93.3 WMMR.? He played Paradise City and Live and Let Die.? After the two songs were over he mentioned the HammerStein shows.? He then mentioned how he is friend's with Tommy Stinson.? He clearly said GNR has 4 guitarists.? According to Court, Tommy told him GNR will have 4 guitarists: Richard Fortus, Robin, IZZY STRADLIN, and a fourth suprise guitarist.? So according to him, Izzy is NOT the surprise, but he IS performing.? That immediately gives Axl's use of the name Guns N' Roses more validity. This DJ did have Tommy in the studio a few weeks ago, and did seem to know what he was talking about.? He also had is picture taken with Axl when Axl came to Philly for the NBA Championship here, a few years back.? Luckily, I will know firsthand Friday night, as I make the voyage to the Hammerstein!


I want to hear Dust N' Bones live baby!!!!

wow, maybe izzy will perform some old songs, while the new guy does majority of the songs

WTF, Izzy is not even the surprise?

Is God going to show up?

Only person that would shock my is Slash, or Lenny Kravitz (god no). 4 Guitarist suck anyway, 3 is too many for GNR as is.

Sweet deal. ?I usually listen to MMR but I missed that.

First off:  Axl went in 2001 to the NBA championship!  Secondly, 4 is a bit redundant.... :yes:

Izzy is NOT in the band

anyone have audio of that for download?

If Izzy actually does play and stuff, thats gotta get the wheels in motion for a reunion. IMO.

I'd guess that Izzy is a guest guitarist and isn't actually part of the band.   So GNR probably only has 3 guitarists.  If any band is playing a show and they have a guest guitarist show up, they don't ditch one of theirs to accomodate, they just add the guest, so this shouldn't be seen as any different.  We've already heard that Izzy might show up.

I like JBENZ theory, probably the most likely.? He is probably a guest.? If Izzy plays every song though, it would then raise the question if he is on Chinese Democracy.

I think it it also interesting to point out something obvious:  Izzy Stradlin will have played with BOTH Velvet Revolver and the new Guns N' Roses.

I doubt we'll see that any time in our lives.  I hope not, at least.

if izzy shows up, first of all if its just for a night and like 4 songs its not a big deal, if he does more then 4 songs on all 4 nights, then somethings up

 :rofl: :rofl: Great post. ?

Four guitar players - a little overkill. ?I'd love to see Izzy back in the fold - who knows. ?We should all stop speculating and see what happens in 72 HOURS!!!

Imagine how crazy the crowd would go too if Izzy was there.  It would be insane

That's why in my setlist predition I put double talking jive and Pretty tied up... :hihi:

I think Izzy will play on at least 1 night.

Slash!
Let it be Slash!  ;D

I just don't see it being slash at all.  If anyone, I'd put my money on Izzy

Has Zack Wilde totally been eliminated as an option? ?That stuff Axl was playing through his cell phone the other night reminded me of him.

I'm only going to the first 3 shows, if Izzy shows up only for the wednesday show i'll be so pissed

Zakk hates Axl with a passion plus he's in ozzfest and gonna be working on a new cd with ozzy

hhahahah i love these radio station reports!!!

I want an audio of this radio show.  Is there one out there

              Could Slash really be coming back ? Jesus....that would shock the music world seeing Axl and Slash re-united. Someone call MTV !  :o

It's amazing that even after Axl Rose says the new guitarist will not be one from the past, people still think Slash is coming back.  ::)

DJs know nothing.

I should know.

I am one.  : ok:

Friday is going to be a sweet day, thats all that needs to be said.   :yes:

At least after Friday, the rumors will be put to rest.  :hihi:

Thank Jesus

I cant wait to hear the reports from the show
My moneys still on Bumblefoot and perhaps Izzy guesting here or there on a song or 2 (Patience perhaps)

Axl said nothing from the past.

I'll go out on a limb and say Eddie Van Halen is the surprise.

Just because it would be cool and not make a lick of sense.

that would be totally sweet but
1) hes old,  very old.
2) hes got his own band (i think)

I saw them 2 years ago.. They're still very much together.

Do you have any clue what you're talking about... He always speaks highly of axl.....

He did tell Axl to fuck off and get Slash back.  That is a fact.

May be, dont think that means he hates him with a passion

i agree that izzy will show up for a song or two, and that the other guitarist will be the new one.  most likely a no namer...

at this point i'll be a little disappointed if izzy didn't play atleast a song or two at the friday show...
as for the suprise guitarist.. the suspense is killing me..  i know it can't be true.. but why bother with all the suprises when you know everyone is going to think its slash.. unless..........

you hope not????????

dude, what the fuck are you injecting?

I heard an interview with Zakk 3 years ago and he was talking bad about Axl

These Quotes are from an issue of Ultimate Guitar feat SLASH in 04'

TRACII GUNS
WHO IS HE? A big-haired LA scenester, and also cofounder of Guns N' Roses.
GLORY DAYS: Tracii the band's original Lead guitarist and claims to have written many of the riffs that were later made famous by Slash. He was kicked out in 1985.
TRACII ON AXL: "He's a schmuck and he'll always be a schmuck.End of story."

IZZY STRADLIN
WHO IS HE? Known as being the 'quiet one,' despite once being arrested for pissing down the aisle of a crowded aeroplane.
GLORY DAYS: Played rhythm guitar in the original, classic line-up. He left in 1991 after Axl forced him to accept a pay cut.
IZZY ON AXL: "Axl always wants to do stuff his way, at his pace, in his time."

GILBY CLARKE
WHO IS HE? 80s glam rock also-ran, Left LA band, Candy, to replace Stradlin in GN'R.
GLORY DAYS: Toured with the band from 1992 to 1994. After one pomp-rock ballad too many, Gilby politely suggested that the band might rock out a bit more... so Axl sacked him.
GILBY ON AXL: "I don't really talk to the man much any more."
 ? ? ?
BRIAN MAY
WHO IS HE? The fright-haired, 80s Queen legend.He wrote some tunes you might just recognise...
GLORY DAYS: Played on early sessions for Chinese Democracy with Mr Rose. Who knows, we might even get to hear some of the stuff he did one day!
BRIAN ON AXL "He's not always easy [to work with] He's utterly meticulous."

ZAKKWYLDE
WHO IS HE? Beer-swilling New Jersey axe-for-hire. Plays for Ozzy Osbourne as well as fronting his own project, which is called Black Label Society.
GLORY DAYS: Zakk jammed with the band in 1995. He'd barely tuned up when he got his marching orders.
ZAKK ON AXL: "I saw Axl not so long ago... and I said 'Get the . fuck out of here.'"

PAUL HUGE
WHO IS HE? His surname is apparently pronounced 'hoogee.' Childhood friend of Axl. Also, named the 'Yoko Ono of Guns N' Roses' by Matt Sorum.
GLORY DAYS: Replaced Gilby Clarke in 1994. Slash couldn't stand him, and promptly quit. Huge, meanwhile, managed to cling on until last year.
PAUL ON AXL: "We're still friends."
 ? ? ?
ROBIN FINCK ?
WHO IS HE? Nine Inch Nails guitarist, poached by Axl on the strength of his cutting edge, industrial sound.
GLORY DAYS: Replaced Slash as lead guitarist between 1997 and 1999. Still occasionally turns up for live gigs.
ROBIN ON AXL: "I doubt very much that record will come out any time soon."

DAVE NAVARRO
WHO IS HE? Formerly of Jane's Addiction and Red Hot Chili Peppers fame, the man's an exceptional guitarist.
GLORY DAYS: Played a solo on Oh My God (from the End Of Days soundtrack) back in 1999. One afternoon with Axl was quite enough for Dave.
DAVE ON AXL: "It just never worked out."

BUCKETHEAD
WHO IS HE? A mystery wrapped in an enigma topped off with a KFC bucket. What more could you ask for! He used to be in avant-funk oddballs, Praxis, and once auditioned for the Chilis.
GLORY DAYS: Joined in 2000 and is still there. How long will he last?
BUCKETHEAD ON AXL: "..."

that's funny shit! thanks for postin' here's a pop for ya :beer:

he does?  i think your full of shit.

You sure about that?  Axl might say a few sentences which people will disect every letter of every word and we'll have dozens of rumors for Sundays show and so on and so on until the euro tour is over  :hihi:   At which point the rumors will pick up with the NA tour and CD release...IT WILL NEVER END!!!!!   :rofl:

Haha.. You're right!  For a moment, I forgot we were talking about GNR.  The rumors never end...  :beer:

yeah, but thats what makes it so much fun being a GNR fan  :beer:    If nothing else, I've had some REALLY good laughs at the expense of other people while waiting for CD....it helps pass the time ;) haha

last time I checked, Bass was a 'guitar' so yeah, there could be four.  :hihi:

Well if Izzy turns up as a guest, they will have four guitarists on stage.....

I don't think he'll be a permanent member though.



/jarmo

Did Axl say Izzy would show up to play, or just to watch the band?

Woudn't mind hearing "Double Talkin' Jive."

An Izzy/Axl duo of "14 Years" would kick ass!

I think those with tickets for the later shows will have a great chance to see Izzy take the stage for a couple of songs.

But Axl did say that there is an equal chance that Izzy takes a vacation to Brazil on a whim....

The should change the lyrics to "15 Years"...  :hihi:

izzy was a guest guitar player for Velvet Revolver, now he hangs out with GNR ... what's the matter whit him ?

Sounds like a good gig to me........... 8)

Well this radio is just reporting what they heard at the Eddy Trunk show.

Axl saying there's a new guitarist.
Axl saying that Izzy might show up at the shows (I guess he was only talking about Hammerstein show though).

Two days left and those rumors will stop :D

you could tell that was Zakk Wylde from a guitar played through axl's cell phone to a radio station then out to the internet?

you should join the CIA

"I love Axl Rose too, he?s fucking awesome" - Zakk Wylde, Glide Magazine - October 20th, 2005

Man O Man,

Where's Izzy?
Here he is!
"Mr. Invisible of GNR"
This better be real. That is some of the best GNR news Ive heard all year.
Can't wait to see them Sunday Nite with Izzy!

MNR

That's the first thing I thought of. Especially with the comments coming from Stinson, he probably likes to think of himself as a guitarist.

i reckon izzy wouldv been a permanent member except hes really unreliable as axl said. He's probly turned up to a few of there rehersals and will play with them occasionaly as a guest. I know Axl didnt actulaly say "playing" with izzy, just that izzy might come and watch, but with this news as well, and judging by the way Axl said it im fairly sure he meant playing with guns n roses.

The 3rd guitarist - I have no idea what Tracii guns sounds like - could it be him?

I doubt it'd be tracii.


 :peace:

Are you Axl or something? ::)

That's what I thought that they were just classing bass as guitar, so that would make "4 guitarists" if that's what they ment.

I hope there isn't 4 guitarists (5 w/ bass) because that's so over the top for any band, especially when it used to only take 2 guitarists to play the songs.

Izzy won't be a perminant player I can't see it, he does his own stuff his own way. Same way he didn't join VR, he still wrote with them and made guest appearances live but was never a perminant member because he wanted to continue with his solo stuff.

I think that is untrue, they had a miscommunication ..... There's an interview somewere

4 guitar players.. Izzy and slash :hihi:

I think it's pretty safe to say that the new guitarist is not going to be any former member of GN'R. If Axl and the former GN'R members (Izzy, Matt, maybe Slash, and he never seemed to have a problem with Duff, really) are finally patching things up on a personal level, why would you want to repeat the same mistakes that made you fall out in the first place?

Well you would think a decade or better later you would become smarter, more understanding, and more tolerable of eachother..  I know it's not the case this time around, just saying many bands who wise up change...

anyways all you have to do is tour a couple of weeks/months then do your own thing for several years until axl is ready again, seems like anyone can handle that :hihi:

oh God, I can't wait for friday... to stop these bullshit rumors once for ever  :P

me too.. I still can't understand why he couldn't say who the guitarist was... ? There should have been hints, like is he famous, will everyone know him?

I kinda think you self-answered that one. I mean....he wouldn't make it a surprise if we didn't know the new guitarist somehow?? But on the other hand.....perhaps he (or she  :o ....naah  ;D) will be an unknown guitar virtuoso... Only two days left. I'm excited as fuck! we all are I guess  :drool:

I think Izzy will be there watching but not playing.

Hahahaha okay Izzy is there watching......... do you realy think AXl dont ask him to join the band and play some music ?!
If Izzy goes there tham he join the band for a jam for sure  : ok:

Why would Izzy be a surprise? Axl clearly said on the Trunk show that Izzy may show...that kind of lets the cat out of the bag, doesn't it?

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Maybe he will though... We never know.? : ok:

But yeah, I agree that 3 guitarists is enough. It's weird, why would Axl want 4 guitarists??

stop the name dropping. most of you didn't knew who finck, fortus, stinson, bucket or brain were before they joined gn'r. Axl said, about the new guitar player, that it has nothing to do with the past.
and i guess this will be just like in 2002 when fortus appeared for the 1st time on stage in hong kong.

if izzy shows, he'll be only a guest. he's not in the band, Axl said so himself in the trunk interview

I still don't even know the new gnr guys really.. it's not like they toured a really long time and were in the spotlight.. It's almost unreal that tommy or robin have been in this band that long... Gnr's reign lasted 87-93, these guys have been there longer and no one even knows this.. I really don't give  shit who they get really, all I know is regardless of his talent everyone will be like he's awesome, best ever :hihi:

Richard was announced before the Hong Kong show. I believe he had this old website where he confirmed to be with the band... Later, in gnronline.com, Axl talked about Richard.

I think itd be magical if Izzy & Axl did 14 Years

no way. IZZY showing up to play a gnr show with Axl. uhhhh for some reason this sounds like its against anything anyone has seid around here since the break up. but if axl can get Izzy back then hell im sure axl can get slash and duff back. maybe even matt. i just want to get to friday and see. this wondering crap is gay.

I don't know....

See, I've never gotten the the "personal animosity" vibe between Izzy and Axl.  I mean, Axl has certainly been frank about Izzy's drug use, and it's negative effect on the band, but in hearing the stories, even during the '02 tour and the recent Trunk interview...you don't get that Axl was pissed at him.  They're told more as funny anecodtes, than scathing diatribes.

And, given the Trunk interview, it almost sounds like the big UYI schism was actually more between Izzy and Slash than it was Izzy and Axl. 

I've always thought (and recently said as much) that the most likely old member to return (which isn't to say it's likely, just more likely than the others) would be Izzy.  His personal relationship with Axl predates GnR.  They have loads in common, and, if there was a rift, they have some common ground to help repair it.  It seems that Axl's one and only beef with Izzy was (if you can call it a beef) his drug use.  And that, apparently, is no longer a problem.

Now, Izzy is a bit of a free spirit, that's for sure.  And just 'cause we see him in NYC, or at RIR, doesn't, I think, mean he'll show up anywhere elese.  In other words...a few shows doesn't make a reunion, anymore than the VR shows Izzy did meant he was in VR.

Everyone knows that. People just keep on truckin the bullshit out in hopes that they'll be right.

*IF* Izzy even plays any songs with GNR, I bet it'll be something really normal like It's So Easy or Brownstone. I wouldn't bet that we'll get to hear 14, You Ain't, Dust or anything like that. I guess we can always hope though!

Not in the band? Yes.

Not going to do a guest shot on stage with GnR? Eh...we'll have to wait and see.  It wouldn't surprise me if he did...wouldn't surprise me if he didn't.

I could see him coming out to do a couple of songs (Don't Cry, for example), just as a guest, especially for the NYC shows. 

See, this is what was so great about the Axl interview.  It gave us just enough info to satisfy us AND heighten the anticipation for the NYC shows.  Friday, Sunday, Monday, and Wednesday are going to be good days to be GnR fans!  : ok:

I don't know if this rumor is right or wrong, but either way, don't you guys think that the "surprise" guy will HAVE to be famous? ?Seriously, like if it's this guy Batio or whatever, who besides a few people on a message board are going to know who it is? ? ?

Once again - remember - there are probably more Gn'R fans who DON'T follow them on a day by day basis like we do. ?So in my humble opinion, if Axl has a surprise, it's someone famous.

People,

there are like 2 days to wait, why not just hold on until showtime.

Izzy has played with axl since 91, so has gilby and probably a thousand others. I would like to know who it is also, but im more than happy to wait and see. He it could be duff as the 4th guitarist, if he can do it with alice in chains then why not.

Lets just wait and see.

I would tend to agree...maybe not "famous/famous", but at least well known.

The OTHER alternative is that it's someone who is from a well known band but has yet to let them know he's in GnR, and leaving his current setup.? And, for the record, NO I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT "SOMEONE" IS IN A BAND WITH THE INITIALS VR! :)

That seemed like a possiblity to me as well. Like some guy who's fairly well know w/ his own band but can't really reveal anything til the shows.

Well, except accoridng to blabbermouth duff will be on the left coast on the 12th doing a show with Scott, Dave, and Slash.

As for why we keep talking about it and speculating: ?It's fun. ?And it heightens the sense of anticipation for the upcoming shows.

I know that, Friday night at about 6:30 PM, I'm parking myself infront of my PC and not leaving until GnR leaves the stage and we get a complete report on the show.

So who in the hell is the "surprise guitarist"??  It has to be someone of some stature or they would not make it a surprise.  If it is an unknown they would just announce it.  So who is it and whoever goes to the first show better take a laptop and immediatily post it for us!!

There will be more then plenty of updates from the show, but I want to remind everyone of something. Axl didn't really make it out sound like it was gonna be a big surprise or something. I'm not saying the guy isn't gonna be famous, but I just think everyone is reading WAY too much into the secrecy.

I really think the best explination is just to try and let the guys playing with GNR speak for itself.

Wouldn't it be CLASSIC if Izzy came out to play on Don't Cry, and was wearing a sign that said "Where's Slash, Matt & Duff?" !!!??    :rofl:

That would NEED to be photographed.

And you'd hear the peals of laughter 'round the world....

HAHAHAHA.....thats fuckin classic man. Good one. At first I thought you were gonna suggest that he wear the "Where's Izzy" sign or maybe a "HERE'S Izzy" sign. But what you said was MUCH funnier.

dj's are all a bunch of clueless retards...they're always starting shit like this...

"oh i know a guy who knows a guy who thinks he heard gnr has 10 drummers"

whatever...you don't know shit

I've been saying this for weeks now....I totally agree with you.  if it is just a no name, then all the hype and surprise will be totally useless as everyone will just be turning to their left and right saying, "who is that?".

Having said that, how many guitarists out there are truly recognizable to the mainstream just by their face?

Maybe AXL is the "3rd guitarist" (rhythm) and robin and fortus are going to play lead  :hihi:

Can't be, Axl said it was someone new.

was listening to the morning show on mmr this morning and Matt Cord stopped by. He mentioned that he will be doing concert coverage on the GNR show on the 12th.

he also mention the 4 guitarist thing again and when asked what he meant by 4 he said richard, robin, an as of yet to be announced guitarist, and izzy is back, then he said 'oops, actually i dont think i was supposed to tell you that'.

not necessarily true...if the new guy is AWESOME, no one will care if he's famous or not...he'll make himself famous in one day by being "gnr's awesome new guitarist"...i don't care who it is, as long as he's good and doesn't wear a fucking mask (and as long as he's not a lame, old geezer like batio)

100%, complete and total

B U L L S H I T

                     Izzy's getting more attention than ever right now. I wonder if he's loving these rumors of " Are you in Guns n Roses " or not. I personally can't wait to hear the reports from the concerts.

just sharing what i heard.

and really no one knows until friday so im keeping an open mind.

 as a young kid when gnr came out it was about axl n slash.  now id take back izzy over slash any day.

I predict that at some point in the show, Dizzy will play some rhythm (remember the "Dizzy's Guitar Tech" post?), if Izzy shows up and jams, that would be cool. ?And maybe even Axl will pick up a guitar. Plus, if Axl wasn't being coy, when he said there was a new guitarist, but it was no one from the past, then there is a new guy. ?

So how about a ten minute version of Paradise City as an encore, with Robin, Richard, Izzy, new guy, Dizzy and Axl all trading solos at the end?

Hahaha! ?What a trainwreck that would be! ? Or could they pull it off......?

Its...STEVEN ADLER!!!!

I really think it will be Brian May.  I don't think he is joining the group, just think he will be playing with them. 

Haa haa haa, the funniest thing i have heard today!! :rofl:

And on lead guitar, half man half creater, its God!

i actually like that idea..... but 10 minutes is way too short though. 17 minutes seem more adequate :beer:

GOD: " I always said that behold on the 10th day I would create heaven , the earth , and Guns n Roses ! Now...let us play " November Rain " for it is Jesus's favorite. "

true...that is a possibility...while brian may is a big name and a respected guitarist...he is a little too old for gnr's image...he could do a few shows, but should not be a full-time member

I really don't think Brian May is a possibility at all.  He's got plenty of money and fame.  I just don't see this happening.

I agree, in fact he even said himself that he wasn't interested in touring a large scale tour that gnr would prolly do. and Queen are touring anyway themselves aren't they?

i'd take him over the current players but not slash... Every great gnr solo is done by slash..

Thanks guys, everyone in my office thinks I'm crazy bc I'm sitting at my computer laughing my ass off...   :hihi:  But I have to ask - why the 10th day?

10 drummers? Cool!

Yeah the more the better... Bring on however many musicians necessary... I still want a orchestra thou... Either way the more shit Axl can dodge, run and spin around and oh yeah make band introductions 2 mins to 23 mins.... YES!!!

how about

Axl

Dizzy, Chris and Axl trading Piano/Keyboard

Brain on Drums and PopCorn on the Cowbell

Dizzy, Izzy, Slash, Robin, Richard, and new guy all on guitar  EXCEPT when axl plays guitar for the madagascar intro and Tommy plays the guitar on the Gorrilla Head songs they play..

Tommy on Bass excpet when hes playing guitar on the Gorrilla Head songs... in that time Chris Pitman will play Bass..

Slash and Brian May will cameo for the 22 minute PC outro and the Night Train Solo

Paul Huge will be back to cover Dizzys piano parts during Dizzys DJ set after Silkworms.....



What do you think???????? They could pull it off???????? or its gonna be a train wreck???????

3 guitar players are already too much, 2 are enough, so 4? no way. I think it's BS.

Four is too many. I agree with Nesquick even 3 is too much. Lead and Rythem is what you need. But I'd rather have 3 than four guitar players.

don't collective soul and radiohead each have 4 guitarists? or is it 3?

I think that 3 is an acceptable #.....you can play closer to the studio recordings....even alot of the orig gnr tunes have at least 3 guitar tracks on them

And they also need another guitarist to play the new material (the leaks) and I'm pretty sure that there is other stuff too.

If they haven't redone them or anything like that, but I highly doubt that because there is a new guitarist.

It's like a competition with Slipknot...who can have more members? Slipknot has nine...GNR has...

Pretty soon Axl is gonna go for a sprint and run face first intoa guitar player or a drum kit or a keyboard stand.

I don't know about 4 guitar players...that just seems like a bad idea that's straight out of Spinal Tap

they have that many guys they won't fit into hammerstein :hihi: Hold that amp for me..

thats funny everytime i put that staion on it has commercials !
i just turn it off any more cause of it.IT BLOWS !