Here Today... Gone To Hell!

does anyone want to comment that?

put it into perspective?

does this mean that the euro tour is ANOTHER warmup tour?
does this mean that there will be no new songs yet?

I know that in a week we will know more but I cant help my self, and the other thread is to crowded with comments

Yep  :-\

that sucks.
I think us europeans deserve more than a "warm-up" tour......
meh....as long as they turn up to Download Festival I'll be happy!

I dont want to start bitching just yet.
but if axl didnt hear the leaks, and the album is set for fall...
that could also mean that we might not even hear the leaks played live...

What the f$ck is 'fall'? I guess its a season?

In England, we have "Spring->Summer->Autumn->Winter".

Which one is fall?

rotfl.

its autumn..

Haha, it's cool - Fall is pretty much September into early December here in the states.

I would say september-november.

I think he might play a couple of other new songs on the European Tour.

Fall = Autumn for us UK peoples

Summer -> June, July, August
Fall -> Sept, Oct, Nov
Winter -> Dec...you get the picture.

ok, enough with the seasons already!!!!
keep it on topic!

This whole thing is very cool, but I hope to Christ that the Fall date holds. Or maybe that's a smoke screen for an earlier date...

I dont think it's a smokescreen.

Yeah I hope that its in Summer rather than Fall...we've been waiting too long!!

I hope the Euro tour ain't just a tour of appeasement because if CD drops after the Euro tour...the North American tour fans will know all the songs and get extra things like the real truth as to why it has taken so long.

yeah, and american fans showed how much they cared for the band back in 2002.
while in europe, most shows were instantly sold out.

It'll be leaked at least a month before its official date anyway.

At least those die-hards out there got tickets ASAP. I don't know why the rest of the tour didn't sellout immediately!

If fall is the release date for the album, I would guess there will be a release of a single in the near future (summer?).
Anyways, its awesome to hear axls voice again, just hoping for things to happen this time around...

-Eirik

I didnt want to hear this interview.
its just another disappointment...

What are you disappointed by?

You guys honestly thought there would be album by the time Rio and the Euro dates came around?!

Can't believe people are disappointed! Just shut up for gods sake!

Everyones fears that bandmates like Tommy and Brain have gone, have been put to bed.. we heard the band fucking rehearsing Nightrain.. people were worried Axl wasnt rehearsing with the band etc.. YET PEOPLE STILL FUCKING COMPLAIN!

3 months touring in Europe is hardly a warmup...afterall, he's starting out with 4 shows in one of the fifty United States at a venue that sits 2,500.

But now Axl says "fall" release. When he spoke to the RIR guys he said summer and now it's fall? Please, just let this be the year. If it's not released in the fall, he's gotta throw in the towel. But this sounds like it's gonna be it.

I can see how you would feel that way. Axl did say "It'll be released this year" at the end of that discussion though. He sounded pretty sure and sincere to me.

I hope that does not ahppen at all.  :( I was hoping it would could out some time late june or july. But now I some time from late september to November is ok. I mean I waited this long. That would be just in time for another US tour.  :)

this is great, first time axl himself has commented on a release date. Mostly everyone is so dissapointed because 3rd party sources make up release dates.

I guess this means that the release will coincide with a north american tour of some sort.

first it was march, then april, then surely it would be in the summer, now in the fall.... god!! next time we?ll hear him he?ll say winter or the beginning of 07.... god I?m fed up honestly  :no:

This is great news, and defninitely a reason to feel optimisitc about this year. ?Still, "fall" isn't what I'd really consider a release date. ?If a month, day, and year are confirmed, then that's a whole nother story...

what the hell.
why does america get the tour with the release?!

us fucking europeans are faitfull, and we get nothing, yet another warmup tour.
how much warmup does one need?!

Stop your complaining. In 91 Axl did an entire US leg (Get In The Ring Tour) without an album as the warm up. Then Europe got the album  :P

that means we should hear a single about two months prior to an album release, anywhere from july to september.

You're right Gunner - they did a LOT of tour dates back in '91 without an album.

Axl never said spring.  That was fan speculation.  The only thing that he said before is that we would "hear music this year," which apparently we will - in the fall.

I think the fall makes sense, it sucks right now for us faithful fans because we ve waited so long but the tour in Europe for like 20 shows, rock the shit out of them, build up some momentum, drop CD in the fall, then rock the hell out of the NA tour.  The time line makes sense.  He said before the 2002 that soon isnt the word before the NA tour, now he's saying fall before the NA tour.  but if nothing gets released this year, and we start hearing early 07, then its time to forget CD.  But even Richard said in an email the Fall would be the time to release CD, so atleast theyre on the same page.

Single in July, Record in August.

Sounds great!

Only a couple months away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Dont worry Europe, they will be there.

I just hope they play some new stuff on the tour atleast play the 7 or 8 songs we know like madagascar, CD, TWAT, Better, the Blues, IRS, CITR

it's like masrtabation not getting off.teasing you just a little more an more each day.you want it but can't get it lol.till he is good an ready ha '

The only thing that worries me about a release date in fall is he made it sound as if they were still in the final stages of tweaking the album, but they go on tour next week.....

good point. when will they have time to finish?

he actually says "late fall". fall ends around december 20.

I kinda thought the same thing.  when will they finish it..... after all the euro dates?  i kinda think CD is done and maybe they want to add a song or 2 if they can get it done on time. 

I certainly hope all he is doing is picking tracklistings. I don't know, from what everyone says this is the first time it's come from axl's mouth as far as a release date, so hopefully he knows what he is doing. I don't want to doubt him.

it was great to hear him talk about it. and i do feel more confident than ever that there is a definite plan in place to release it.

Let's just think about this.. there is no way Axl would do these dates which are obviously of his choosing.. without a plan to definately put it out.. after what happened in 02  : ok:

    has anyone considered the possibility that because there's a new guitarist chosen, the tracks will have to be re-recorded? (could be reason for the late-fall release)....let's just hope it's not going to take longer...the anticipation is killing me...

May have already been done  : ok:

WRONG, Axl NEVER until last nite gave a release date. It was always guesses or that dumb bullshit google changing the date. Axl said Fall, so that is the real estimate. Sept will prob be the month.

honestly im not real confident in this fall release....

how are they gonna wrap th ebaby up if they will be touring all summer and going back in tour...

axl please tour the summer then go back and finish then tour.

maybe its done but he doesnt want to say that....

He did make it seem as if even though it wasn't yet complete, that they were in the very final stages of finishing the 1st two albums.

I agree, it seemed as though they were working on the third.  Given that fact, we should hear a great deal of the new material next week!  :hihi:

could someone explain to me why they are working on 3rd album when they still havent released the first one.

I don't know. It's good to hear him say that but at the same time he doesn't sound overly sure. Who knows. I think it should've been out before summer but whatever.

It bugs me, but that's how it is.  He just wants to be done with all the creative output and then focus on touring with whoever's left in the band, apparently.  I cant say I'm bummed out really, at least he's out & about again.

Are they going to release the 2/3 albums at once? I hope not!

He said "summer" in 2001.

Sounds like great news to me. Fall is not that far away. We'll have plenty of bootlegs to tide us over for the next 4-5 months. And you know what usually happens a few weeks before an album is released? A single is released. Assuming all goes as planned with the album in fall/late fall then we'll have a single in early fall/fall. Hell, an album in September could mean a single in August. After waiting years and years I honeslty don't mind waiting a few more months. Fingers crossed though.

Bla bla bla, we've been discussing this for six years now, okay?  The album is always 4-5 months away...  ::) :P

you WILL hear music this year just like uncle axl said.its gonna be the best christmas ever  : ok: .fall (or autumn as we call it here in the UK) is only 6-7 months away,ive waited fricken years so a few months more aint gonna kill me.

My guess is November 21st.  It's the Tuesday before Thanksgiving here in the US.  And Thanksgiving is knows as the start of the holiday shopping season.  A lot of big releases are in November.

bla bla bla, the album is always 4-5 months away based on bullshit rumors. The only time Axl gave us a release date was for summer 2001 (something like that, I can't remember exactly). A real time frame from the man himself (not soon or that kinda thing) is not a bullshit rumor we've heard a thousand times already. Sure, plans can change as I suggested above, but this is more real than Joe Blow making up a rumor because June 6th is a Tuesday or some other bullshit.

well he knows aboot better and twat bc he said they were his fav. so we will hear them but may not be the same version.

rotfl

yeah. that's why I'm kinda worried. there's no guarantee that the album will be out this fall.


P.S. not only did axl say that the album will be out in summer 2001, he also said in 2002 that the album will be out by summer 2003

I think I see a pattern. 2006....

But shortly after that he said at the VMA's that soon wasn't the word. So, if Axl doesn't change his mind in the next few weeks maybe we'll be in the clear.  ;D

I don't recall Axl Rose in print or audio format ever saying when the record would be out. Other then last night I think everything was just plain fan/press speculation.

If someone wants to post a link to official words from Axl with these supposed promised dates, I'm sure we'd all appriciate it.

I dont keep a record, and even if I did, I wouldnt bother looking it up to prove to you that I'm telling the truth.
but in 2001, the single and the album were scheudled. Single for spring and the album for june.
in 2002 he said that they'll do the warmup tour, then go back to the studio start the real tour in spring, and release the album in summer 2003.
it all fell to pieces.

Sounds familiar... I'm just playing to the rock n roll gods that all goes well for the next 2 weeks.  After that, It'd be nice to have an album, but we need to just take one step at a time.

Again, I think that's always been record company and internet rumors, never from Axl. If anyones got any sort of proof of Axl saying when the record would definately be out anytime prior to last night, I'd love to see it.

well he said it in front of 250,000+ fans in Rio...
"We'll be back next summer with a whole bunch of new songs..." and yes he was referring to CD.

In My opinion axl put out those releases for publicity and hes gonna come out with a record of completely different material and those such as better TWAT , IRS, and Catcher are all donna be on the second and third CD's.. Its Possible. I know what ur ssaying. "he said that the new leaks we on the CD" but its possible although there new material they could be on the second/third CD

My theory

And you know he meant the cd how?????

stop the excuses.
he said he'll be back in 2002 with a bunch of new songs.
he wasnt back in rio in 2002, and at the places he did show up, there were no new songs.

Okay  fuckhead go home !!!!

Get out here , is  execiting time now  and we dont need your pessimist here moron,  enjoin the moment or get out !!!!

Chill guys.  In a week we'll know the immediate fate of GNR.  Between now and then, can we just enjoy the hype of the moment?

Right but that has what to do with him ever promising a date for the release of the Chinese Democracy album?

First Official Show for UYI: May 24, 1991 - Alpine Valley Music Theatre, East Troy, WI

Use Your Illusion I & II released September 17, 1991

Hes done it before and the time frames are looking pretty similar.

we will hear music this year  :smoking: :smoking: :smoking:

MTV 2002:

kurt: is cd REALLY coming out soon???
axl: "i dont know soon is the word"

I'm thinking whenever it's actually in my hands.  Sept./Oct. would be just fine with me, though... :beer:

I think Axl is in good spirits and feels no presure this time around so I'd expect cd  September, October or November 06 for sure :yes:

              Axl in 2002 also said to Kurt L.  " Its hard to replace everyone from the ground up because G'n'R was so big. "

                      The only times anyone has said 5 to 6 months away its been Tommy Stinson.I have never seen Axl Rose confirm anything release wise .

Actually how that went is like this:

Kurt "So does this mean we'll finally see the album soon?"

Axl "You'll see it. I don't know if soon is the word."

 ? ?...not to add to the flaming you've gotten, but...

 ? ?what really surprises me is that Axl gets shit from fans for:
 ?
 ? ?1) not releasing CD in 2002/2003
 ? ?2) lack of communication w/ fans/press, etc.

 ? ?last night, we've had a monumental fucking moment, when Axl, casually...and this is what i think MUST be underlined...CASUALLY (hell he almost volunteered) to come down to a radio station that leaked IRS years ago (not sure of exact date), relaxed and answered most of the major questions that have gotten X number of threads on HTGTH...
 ?
 ? ?not only does Axl satisfy point 2) and tells you the likely release date for CD, but he volunteers information that he could've easily kept to himself (Izzy possibly jamming at the NY shows, more Europe dates, reunion rumours, etc).

 ? ?you all know Axl's attitude when it comes to stuff not going his way. Christ that WAS Axl in the old GNR days, and he's the same person. the fact that the 2002 concert got cancelled, was obviously a consequence of Axl getting pissed at something that happened with CC or hell, even Interscope/Geffen.
 ?
 ? ?after all those riots, bad press, you think Axl would've wanted to release CD under those conditions? (pretty much at the behest of the record company that he's reigned in for what, the past 10 years?)

 ? ?my take is that unlike in 2002 (and i may be wrong, so please correct me), Axl is making himself more and more visible, songs have leaked at convenient times, shows are popping up left and right. He's comfortable with this moment (read: year), enough that i really think CD will come out this year.

 ? ?let's not complain that they're working on the 2nd, or 3rd album. this shows that Axl & co. are actually getting together and pushing forward as a band, and have some sort of future plans. what, you wanted them to release CD, tour, then have Axl go back to his Brian Jones status and not come out for another decade?

 ? ?let's give Axl a big ?:beer: for what transpired last night on the radio...and stay as optimistic as all you (i'm sure) were during each rumour-phase of GNR's new phase...

 ? ? :peace:

I can't agree enough. I honestly don't think Axl could've made a better move at this point then last night.

I have friends that called ME today because they heard about it and said "WTF?! How come I didn't hear about this??? And it was cool to be like "Hey, Axls unpredictable you never know whats gonna happen!"

Go ahead and complain that CD is coming in fall and that the band is playing old songs, I don't give a fuck.  Axl is back and I'm happy.  The new guitarist has nothing to do with the past, but that fucking nightrain rendition was bluesy as hell!!!!!!   So booo yahh look out.

AXL...   


COME TO SOUTH AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ON TOPIC:  I thinks the chinese will be on stores in october 26th.  : ok:

           

Boo ya! I like how you think. ?The mere fact that Axl made an appearance ON THE RADIO shows that the wheels are in motion. ?Granted, with GNR, you can't expect to see and album until you walk into a store and buy it. ?However, something feels a lot better now than it did back in 2002 when things were more controversial. ?

i feel that axl needed to take time off, and some might be like 9 years from 93-02 is too long, and from 02 to 06 why now? the answer is people need a break gnr was the biggest band in the world and they all lived that rockstar live style, it takes a toll on you.? from 02 till now, he made it clear that they are working on material, i think a good album should take about 4 years to do, so they re working on 3. i think we ll see CD this year, axl seems more positive about the bands future then ever.? do you have to take it with a grain of salt, sure, but would you rather hear him say nothing.? i mean he wrote a letter when bucket left that said they ll announce a release in the upcoming months, that was 2 years ago.? but since january he s been out regularly.? so we ll see what happens but it definitely seems like positive things are happening. and if people complain about the old songs during the nyc shows, i mean shit i want to hear the old songs like i always want to hear some new stuff too, you just have to enjoy the whole experience

To me it is  all good news.

People for years have been saying nothing will happen until Axl says it will, and now he says the Fall '06.
Second, for those in Europe who fear the worse: remember 1991 when 6 months prior to UYI the band went on tour and played 60%+ of new songs. So it is all coming  together  in a good way. I think the Fall tour will not be that much different from the summer, so enjoy!

Axl was asked about a fall release.... Axl replied yes, absolutely......
I do like the sound of that but Axl did not actually say fall he simply replied to a question.

Yes he did. Trunk asked when and Axl said Fall or late fall.

I was suspicious that im missing a part of the interview. I have 1hr 11min. is that right? I only have it from the time axl turns up at the station, Is there some earlier?

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=29464.0

I got everything from that thread. The first part is where Sebastian calls Axl on his cellphone that leads to Axl agreeing to come to the studio.

Hearing the words directly from Axl's mouth is alot more positive and assuring than any words concerning a release date we've previously heard from say Tommy, or Dizzy.

Axl did not have the tone that the album will for 100% certainty be out in the fall, but he damn well had the tone that Gn'R is just going to go with the flow and if all goes well over in Europe, then we shall have Chinese Democracy with a tour of our own to follow :D

The subject of the albums release is entirely out of our hands and control....

The positive state of mind that is detectable in this radio interview from Axl is almost surreal...even comparing the moods of 2002 Axl vs. 2006 is like night and day...

The less pressure he continues to feel, the better it is for us in the long end is all I can say :beer: : ok:

I hate to be a gloomy Gus, but I question that we will see a fall release. I think the album will come out, (knock on wood) as the band is now active again, but you know how it is with album delays. My money is on the spring (of fall) of '07.

God help us if in December of this year we have a post that's titled "Will 2007 be the year 'Chinese Democracy' comes out."

Hey Megaguns - I think you might be missing some of the interview.  According to my clock, (I was listening on the radio, not the web) he arrived at the studio at 1:15, and left at 2:50, which is more than 1hr 11mins. 

For some reason, I get this "mellow" vibe from Axl now.  Like he's really grown up a lot, from 2002 and ESPECIALLY the old days.  He joked a couple of times about "arriving late" and "staying late" at past Gn'R shows.  Almost like he knows now what a joke it was, and he's past that.   I didn't feel that during the interview he was going to snap or get up and leave. 

Also, he DID say "fall."  100%.  He says it again at the very end of the interview.  "Album will be out in the fall."

Honestly people is there any chance of release this year??i mean we've heard this quite a few times, plus in feb it was 'supposed' to be out 'in a month or so' what can we beleive??

i real hope it will be here after the whole time we been waiting, but to me, after all the 'release dates' in the past, i wont beleive it till i see the album on the shelf

we've heard it from ourselves, not axl.  Slash said it was due out in March, what the fuck did he know?

Yeah, yet another person saying something about CD when they didn't have the facts.

i am so pissed to hear a fall release date i cant even explain!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
BUT...this is GNR and that doesn't mean a fall release is really going down! im sure they got something up their sleeves! maybe just tryin to throw us off....

Why won't a fall release date happen again? Please remind me. When has Axl ever promised a release date before now?

In 2001.

let me know now, does this fall count as axl giving us a release date...? I only want to know incase the end of december rolls along and it's not out and you say well axl never gave a release date :hihi:

is "fall/late fall" considered a date now?

I think it is but as you know,plans might change.i think it will all boil down to how well this tour goes.if the tour gets completed and reviews are good then we might get the album but if 2002 happens again then its gonna be another setback

If the tour goes well maybe.. we will se the album this fall(late).....its hard to tell .. the record dosent seems to be ready ... he has said the same things since 1999.... but its great that they reheasing on new stuff that issent recorded...its a shame that it the record doesnt come out this summer i think..... ..., out touring on have nothing to show....that is no good...But i really hope they play some new songs ...like better and stuff.....so its not the 2002 playlist....if the tour crashes i dont think we ever hear the record ..

Nope. Never happened. And please don't quote the "we'll be back next summer with a bunch of new songs" again like other folks so. That's STILL not Axl saying a release date in anyway.

 : ok:

Rust, I suggest stopping while you are ahead. Axl specifically said in a radio interview from Chile (there is a transcription floating around somewhere on these boards) in Jan 01 that they hoped to have the record out by June/July 2001. A single would come in Spring 01. Now, please explain to me how saying Fall or late Fall (a three month timeframe 5 months from now!) is any different.? :rant: Axl also said in a radio interview in late 2002 that the record would be out sometime in 2003.? ::) Last time I checked it is now 2006-no record-still recording. Here is the link to Jarmo's news article.
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=342

What do you mean stopping while I'm ahead? You guys crack me up with how much you think you're all so sure of. A link to story that says Axl said something with no video or audio means nothing to me.

Here's the point of the whole discussion; it seems that almost no one here wants to believe in Axl at all.

There was audio years ago and I am sure someone has it now. I heard it with my own two ears. Really, your wrong so just drop it. I love Axl but he isn't the most reliable either.

DJ: When is it gonna be the new album? Is it possible that we're gonna have a new record from Guns N' Roses?

Axl: Yes, Um, hopefully we will put out a new single umm sometime this spring and then the record gonna be done in June or shortly thereafter.

Radio Rock And Pop Chile, January 2001

LOL.

I've read through the thread and had a good chuckle.

First, people complain that we never hear anything from Axl and the band, that they don't communicate well with the fans, and that they never address the questions we have.

Then, Axl does an hour + long interview that, basically, answers 90% of the questions we have, and tells us another 5% of those questions will be answered in a week at the NYC shows.

And people start complaining about the answers he gave.

Can we, at least, maybe wait until December 22nd (the first day of winter) to start complaining about the validity of the info he's giving us?

Another thing:? A Fall (even late fall) release could mean, if they so desire, leading with 2 singles...one in June/July, one in Aug/Sept (figuring a release in late Sept/Oct).? It's not a common release method, but it's not an unheard of one, either.? Heck, GnR did it with the UYI albums, using a soundtrack single (YCBM) to lead the charge.

:)

I'm not saying you're defending me or anything but THANK YOU. My whole point in arguing is just that. Prior to Friday night Axl was just the worst villian ever to most of the "fans" on this  board because he "owed us" some sort of communication. So like you said, Axl goes on the radio and tell us just about everything except where Hoffas buried and these same "fans" are not satisfied.

Again, I am not pissed at Axl and he is not a villain to me at all. I just hate it when people talk out of their ass about words straight from Axl's mouth. Facts are facts. Now, on topic, he seems to be very happy and mentally "in a good place." The record has to come out sometime.....Fall is as good a time as any. Let's hope he finally wraps it up. Now, there is an outside chance he is bullshitting everyone and throwing them off on purpose. Divert as much attention as possible to throw off leakers etc. I doubt it, but it could play out that way. Personally, I would do that if I was in his position. Talk the record release down then .....wham......album comes out with a month's notice! :peace:

The news about fall sounds right to me anyway. Just about the time of Use Your Illusion. They are starting their tour at approximately the same time also. Axl mentioned that 30+ gigs were booked for the Europe. So far there is only 22. Meaning there must be more that have yet to be announced.

I think we will hear a handful of new songs up until it's released, then the majority will appear after the album is released. I want to hear IRS live : ok:

It's not precise like nov 5th but it is a time period of a season....  Someone with a completed album should be able to give you a time period as a release date right before touring.. You don't just guess when it comes out, there has to be some invested time before you release it.. If it was a work in progress then the time can varry to a degree..

I'm still crossing my fingers for something like this to occur myself.

That's the quote I was referring to :-\

shortly there after :hihi: be five years soon :rofl:

I still go with a summer release. My left nut is telling me Axl only said late fall to "fool" the leaking industry.
Wouldn't be surprised if we would see the album in june ......

If my theory is bullshit and i need to say good bye to my left nut... well anyway.. what was the point again?? :hihi:

Something tells me no it won't be summer, but i do think it will be here before the U.S. tour starts, seeing as noone will back a tour with no album and half full arenas again.

I wouldn't listen to his left nut either, but thats just me.  :hihi:

My right nut is a lot smarter than my left. But my left nut got the looks.

Another thing we got from Axl saying fall is confirmation that Richard is pretty straight forward and truthful with his emails. His last email to a fan said cd around September which sort of matches up with Axl's comments. So, I would hope that everyone stops bashing Richard, Tommy, and Dizzy when they tell us the current plan. They are simply telling us what Axl has told them.  :-*

Let hope for September, but fall start September 21st and runs all the way till XMas guys.  Dont hold your breath until there is a real release date.  Lets hope for the best.

Fall starts when it starts not in any particular day.. Besides you know on the other side of the equator it's fall atm so we might get it soon ;D

True about fall, but what time table do you think Uncle Axl is on? Hehehehe

A couple of days ago I called the local radio station and asked if there where any US tour dates set up or in the process of being scheduled.  He said not as of the date I emailed him.  At this point there are no firm dates being released.  The album is closer but it might be that close yet.  Give it time.

LOL @ the "Texas Seasons"! :)

Fall/autumn officially begins, on the side of the equator I assume Axl is talking about, on Sept 23rd and ends (well, the last full day) on December 21st.

I think Axl was talking about antartica fall.
they only have summer and winter.

Wonder what happens with Velvet Revolver's record hitting the same time. They can release it before, but sure not after.
I guess if "Chinese Democracy" comes first they just have to delay it for 2007. Whatever happens, they should just release it BEFORE CD, otherwise the intrest won't be too high for it.
Or maybe the NGN'R record brings up the old Guns N' Roses, and that way gives Velvet Revolver some attention.

i dont really think that is necessary. i actually think there are more VR fans out there right now then fans of the current GNR.

fall it is...... straight from axls goatee clad lips......If it dont come out ill ring his cell phone and ask whats going on

i have a really good feeling that the album will come out when the european tour has finished but before the american tour, it makes sense

So you are going along with my left nut?? cooool :hihi: