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Title: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: speed-stone on May 03, 2006, 06:07:13 AM this may seem like a stupid topic but honestly, with the always present risk of cancellation, if the whole tour ended up being cancelled, how much fucking money would be thrown out the window? i'm curious. add up all the ticket sales (most of the concerts in europe are festivals which can't be refunded), hotels (can they be cancelled?), plane tickets etc. paid for by thousands of fans... the last european tour wasn't likely to happen, plus it was smaller, so i don't think the costs in 2001 of the cancellation were even remotely close to what we'll have if they cancel this time. i have faith that axl follows through, but i'd like anyone to take a guess at this? how much fucking money would fans have wasted, all put together, if this tour is cancelled?
Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: supaplex on May 03, 2006, 06:09:06 AM they won't cancel : ok:
Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: speed-stone on May 03, 2006, 06:10:29 AM i hope that's true, but that wasn't really the question : ok:
Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on May 03, 2006, 06:18:05 AM They won't cancel. But I would imagine the band is making around $150-200,000 for each show in Hammerstein. If they were to cancel, they would lose all their appearance fees and many future appearance fees. Axl practically lives in NYC now. There's no chance he'll miss these shows. According to GnR, the Vancouver and Philly shows could have happened, and Axl really didn't cancel that many shows during GnR's heyday. The St. Louis show and the Montreal show where the effects malfunctioned were the only real incidents
Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: speed-stone on May 03, 2006, 06:20:05 AM They won't cancel.? But I would imagine the band is making around $150-200,000 for each show in Hammerstein.? If they were to cancel, they would lose all their appearance fees and many future appearance fees.? Axl practically lives in NYC now.? There's no chance he'll miss these shows.? According to GnR, the Vancouver and Philly shows could have happened, and Axl really didn't cancel that many shows during GnR's heyday.? The St. Louis show and the Montreal show where the effects malfunctioned were the only real incidents yeah but i'm talking about how much money the fans would lose here, all put together, including the thousands and thousands who have bought tickets to see gnr in non-refundable festivals... Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on May 03, 2006, 06:22:48 AM They won't cancel. But I would imagine the band is making around $150-200,000 for each show in Hammerstein. If they were to cancel, they would lose all their appearance fees and many future appearance fees. Axl practically lives in NYC now. There's no chance he'll miss these shows. According to GnR, the Vancouver and Philly shows could have happened, and Axl really didn't cancel that many shows during GnR's heyday. The St. Louis show and the Montreal show where the effects malfunctioned were the only real incidents yeah but i'm talking about how much money the fans would lose here, all put together, including the thousands and thousands who have bought tickets to see gnr in non-refundable festivals... If GnR theoretically cancelled all their dates, the fans would lose millions of $$$ combined Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: The Estranged MrFlashbax on May 03, 2006, 07:09:01 AM wow.. lemme be the first to actually answer the question hahah
i'd lose about $80 for tickets and $20 for the commute to and from hammerstein.. so if they cancel before the show, i'll lose $80.. and if i go to hammerstein and they dont show up i'll lose $100 Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: XxWickeds10xX on May 03, 2006, 07:13:13 AM Axl practically lives in NYC now. yeah whats up with that? I work 2 blocks from the Hammerstein, and like 3 blocks from this club "Stereo" where he is reprted seen alot. WHy is he in NY all the time now? I think he might be "mixing" the album or something like reheasing. I walk around the city alot during lunch, and always look for anyone in the band with no luck :(Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: oldgunsfan on May 03, 2006, 12:31:44 PM Axl practically lives in NYC now. yeah whats up with that? I work 2 blocks from the Hammerstein, and like 3 blocks from this club "Stereo" where he is reprted seen alot. WHy is he in NY all the time now? I think he might be "mixing" the album or something like reheasing. I walk around the city alot during lunch, and always look for anyone in the band with no luck :(my guess bis he likes NYC so much b/c it's open all night and the releative annoynimty NYC offers celebs Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: TheRaven on May 03, 2006, 12:42:45 PM Well my plane ticket and hotel reservation are non-refundable so I'd be out at least $1000. Plus I'm using 5 vacation days, so I'm not sure what that would amount too. Whether they cancel or not I'm headed to NY.lol
Raven Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: GnR-NOW on May 03, 2006, 12:50:50 PM well, i figured 4 shows, 3000 ppl a show, 63 dollars a ticket, so just on face value ticket sales they would have grossed 756,000 dollars. So for a band that hasnt played in 4 years, and really only played one dynamite show that being the msg show, the fact that 12000 want to see them should be reason enough not to cancel
Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: pilferk on May 03, 2006, 12:59:08 PM I would lose zero on the tickets (they were freebies).
If they were to cancel the day of the show, I'd lose about $60 for the train ride. Everyone who is including ticket price in their "losses"...remember, provided you can prove you bought the tix through TM or the Box office...you'd get a refund less the TM service fee. On those $80 (approx) tix, you'd get all but about $20 back. Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: Nightfall on May 03, 2006, 01:16:17 PM only the american shows..i would loose 1000$
add to that the european shows and i would loose another 1000$ since i already had those losses in 2002 and 2004...i surely hope it won't happen this year ;) Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: MJRoses23 on May 03, 2006, 03:25:16 PM Id lose:
75 per ticket for 2 shows. 90 per night for 2 nights for the hotel. The gas money for a trip from NE Ohio to NYC. And most importantly: ID LOSE ALL FAITH I HAVE IN MY FAVORITE BAND SINCE I WAS 12. They would pretty much be non existent to me after taht. They may be nonexistent anyway if they cancle. Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: oldgunsfan on May 03, 2006, 04:04:31 PM only the american shows..i would loose 1000$ add to that the european shows and i would loose another 1000$ since i already had those losses in 2002 and 2004...i surely hope it won't happen this year ;) I f I lost that much coin on them i would have lost interest in them a long time ago; when they didn't show in Philly, the tix i had were paid for so i only lost the time from my life and whatever i spent at the bar at the Wachovia Center Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: illusionone on May 03, 2006, 04:19:41 PM I would lose close to $300 on the tickets the hotel - all in all $600. The only hotel I could get a room in was the Crowne Plaza in Time Square for $300 a night <whew>
Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: bazgnr on May 03, 2006, 04:34:31 PM I'd be out $1,000 in travel expenses alone, plane + hotel. At least I'd have my tickets as ridiculously expensive souveniers, though. That said, I believe. It won't happen.
Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: Mandy. on May 03, 2006, 04:41:14 PM Why does everyone need to be so pessimist? There are at least half a dozen threads about the "if they cancel..." issue.
Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: cyllan on May 03, 2006, 05:11:30 PM How much money would I lose if the tour was cancelled? Too much to even think about! :o
Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: bazgnr on May 03, 2006, 05:37:04 PM Why does everyone need to be so pessimist? There are at least half a dozen threads about the "if they cancel..." issue. No pessimists here. I prefer "cautiously optimistic." Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: Mr.Intensity on May 03, 2006, 05:59:30 PM They won't so who cares. : ok:
Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: MR W,AXL ROSE on May 03, 2006, 06:45:25 PM if they cancel before the day of the show then nothing.but they WONT cancel,its Axl fukin rose,he aint gonna cancel a fukin tour.its not in his nature :hihi:
Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: Mandy. on May 03, 2006, 06:57:11 PM if they cancel before the day of the show then nothing.but they WONT cancel,its Axl fukin rose,he aint gonna cancel a fukin tour.its not in his nature? :hihi: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: Niko on May 03, 2006, 07:05:51 PM they wont cancel, that will be the end of gnr
Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: JB9988 on May 03, 2006, 08:01:14 PM if they dont show and theres a riot they will be sued and a shit and a half load of money would be lost. and on top of that guns n roses would have NO more fans and nobody would give a shit about chinese democracy. But axl likes NYC so id assume he would show up.
Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: AxlsMainMan on May 03, 2006, 08:23:47 PM well,? i figured 4 shows, 3000 ppl a show, 63 dollars a ticket, so just on face value ticket sales they would have grossed 756,000 dollars.? So for a band that hasnt played in 4 years, and really only played one dynamite show that being the msg show, the fact that 12000 want to see them should be reason enough not to cancel Exactly my thoughts : ok: But with that aside, why all the negativity?.... The storm is getting closer folks... Just sit back and enjoy the show : ok: Who ultimately cares even if theres a third guitarist at this point, hell it could be Teddy Zig Zag for all I care... Im just glad Axl Rose and Guns N' Fuckin' Roses are back, and I will be there May 12th :D Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: HoldenCaulfield on May 04, 2006, 02:28:12 AM I'd personally take about an $800 hit...
Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: echrisl on May 04, 2006, 03:12:09 AM Why does everyone need to be so pessimist? There are at least half a dozen threads about the "if they cancel..." issue. See "Philly 2002" ... Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: Mandy. on May 04, 2006, 03:17:16 AM Why does everyone need to be so pessimist? There are at least half a dozen threads about the "if they cancel..." issue. See "Philly 2002" ... I know. And I know about several other shows they cancelled. But the situations are totally different. Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: russtcb on May 04, 2006, 08:54:44 AM Why does everyone need to be so pessimist? There are at least half a dozen threads about the "if they cancel..." issue. See "Philly 2002" ... Just because it's happened before doesn't mean it'll happen again. Until the whole thing goes through the courts, we won't even know if the band "canceled" Philly or not. Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: DoubleTalkingJive on May 04, 2006, 11:42:15 AM I would take a big hit if they cancelled ...but I have the utmost confidence they won't.
Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: russtcb on May 04, 2006, 11:48:33 AM I would take a big hit if they cancelled ...but I have the utmost confidence they won't. I figured it out for shits and giggles and here's what I got: $150 for tickets (for 2 w/ service fees and everything) $150 for gas (based on total milage, mpg and current prices) $240 for hotel room (2 adults at the Hotel New Yorker) $100 for food (cheap eats) If I'm not forgetting anything that puts me at about $640 (low estimates). I won't have to worry about that though, cuz they're gonna show. Title: Re: how much money are going to be lost if they cancel? Post by: speed-stone on May 05, 2006, 06:32:05 AM not that i ever doubted axl, but after the press release yesterday i'm much more optimistic :yes:
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