Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I didnt see a thread on this yet but.

what are your thoughts on the new United 93 movie about 9/11. Do u think its too soon Or just the right time.. There has been alot of controversy over this and i think its a bunch of crap.. like its been 6 years since the tragedy occured and all this is showing is the heros of this tragic thing...... I think this is perfect timing in my opinion ... what do you guys think? as soon as this movie comes out im going to go see it  : ok:

I don't think its wrong to make the movie, or for people to see it.  But I won't go see it.  The entire 9/11 events were so upsetting to me, that I can't imagine wanting to relive any part of it.  Maybe in 20 years or something, as a bit of history.  But not now.

I was a little skeptical, but a good friend of mine has a big role in the movie and after hearing the stories about making it and her talking to the family members and hearing what the director has said about his reasons for making it and the vision behind it, I instantly approved. She saw it last week at a cast screening and said it turned out amazingly well. And it had a very powerful opening at The Tribecca Film Festival... I can't wait to see it tomorrow.

It's supposed to be a really good movie but it's too real for me to go see so I probably won't go see it either.

Actually a little over 4 and a half but whos counting?

I wasn't sure about this at first but from all reports the producers and cast spent alot of time with the families of the passengers. So they will be respectful and somewhat accurate in that reflection. However any portrayal of the terrorists and a majority of the events on the plane will be pure speculation.

i recently watched "Flight 93", the TV movie on the A&E channel. it was REALLY tough to watch. very depressing.

i'll probably end up seeing United 93 as well, but i don't even know why. 

For what's it's worth, it's getting outstanding reviews, but all the reviews say it is a tough movie to watch-I don't know if I can sit through it or not-I still think about that day every day-everyone, for what it's worth-not sure if this should be a new thread-where were you on 9/11-when did you first hear?

I don't think it's too soon, I just think as people we take to long to get over things,..  Shit like this happens all over the world just at a s,maller scale but more frequently.. I live in nyc, I watched this happen from a highrise I was working on, and I knew one person that died.. I think life just goes on and this was eventually going to be made into a movie so there's no avoiding it.. Time to move on already, get the freedom tower built ... I think with such a thing in some eyes it'll never be a long enough wait..

If anybody is interested, A&E will be airing it again Sat April 29 @ 9pm, check your local listings.

I just got back from seeing this movie.

Wow.

It was really hard to watch. Really. But it was incredible. I have nothing bad to say about it. Nothing. 

Great we have someone who has seen it so was it really well done or was it like very unbeleivable... And anotherr question did it hapeen to show stuff before like the twin towers part and the events leading up to the flight

It was really well done, very believable. It wasn't glamorized at all.  And they showed stuff about the twin towers, too... mostly from the air-traffic control and government perspective...  really, really tough to watch, but well done and realistic

I dont see whats the point of making a movie about the events... Why? We all know what happened and now a bunch of people wanna go sit in the movie house with thier popcorn and large sodas and watch the events .... i dont understand it at all.... Whats next? the PS2 game version of the movie? I dont see the need to make a movie out of it.... shameless...

Its akeen to say a movie like Passion of the Christ. That was a tough movie to watch.

I agree with something jenna said aobut how the family of those who lost thier lives played a big role in how the movie portrayed the love ones lost. Of course its gonna be tough to watch but from what I gather , it is more about the heroism of the ordinary person ,coming together and trying to do whatever they could to not let the terrorist see thier plan to frutation.

on 9/11 I was woken by a phone call, from my father, he called right after the first plane had struck. To see if I was at home, fortunatly I was , I worked at the towers. Just so happens that day I didnt have to be in till noon. I know quite a few people who perished. And it was a tough time. But as Mike said , you have to go on, ironically I am now working again , right across the street from ground zero. Time for the freedom tower. TIme to bounce back. ANd I will see the film morso in nore to acknowlege the memory of the people of that flight who helped with thier own lives saving prople thounsands more.

damn that scary as hell.....  Passion of the Christ isnt as real as this movie is... nobody realy knows if that is a true story or not... but the 93 and Sep 11 just happened and i just dont see the need for it to be re created and played for entertainment purposes.....  I dont realy see it as a tribute.. re enacting thier last moment on earth,  I dunno i just dont see the need to make the movie...   Are you gonna work at the freedom tower?? whats it like at ground zero today??? ive never been there.

IT a hole , with lots of construction activitly goin on , and drwas tourist from allover the world, all that they are doin is open for the world to see. , wlat forms and walkways are around the site, that is gated, but open for all to see, thre are a photo story about the history of the trade center, pics of it, kinda like a walking mural telling the story , of that and other things, everyones name who perished is lited in one area , asw they woprk on the memorial part of the site.l

And I truly hope that people are not gonna go see this movie as "entertainment" but morso to really pay tribute . I dont expect it nor should it be considered a blockbuster . And I think I read that most of the proceeds are goin to organizations that are inplace to help the families and others directly affected by 9/11.

As for me at the time I worked for Lenscrafters , it was in the mall directly under the towers at the time, kinda wierd I had lunch the day before sitting by the globe structure between the towers. BUt I work in a restuarant now in battery park.

i hope that the movie isn't typically fabricated to make it more "entertaining" the way they did with movies such as Pearl Harbour

it's going to be different for each person-like the passion of the Christ, you are going into this with strong emotions-I want to see it, but I know it will be painful or upsetting for people to see-My Mom still has not seen Titanic-it's a personal judgement thing.

my thoughts...

I think it was time for this... there are a lot of people that have stopped caring. I was actually on a website about a month ago and there was a discussion titled "who still cares about 9-11?" and the responses were unbelievable.. a lot of people don't feel anything about it. The "Well, I don't know anyone that died, so it's not a part of MY life" mentality is sickening to me.
I live in Manhattan, and while I wasn't here when 9-11 happened, you can still feel it. The effect it's had on this city and these people... that gaping hole in the financial district that's a constant reminder of these events.

This film gives a face to some of the people involved in it, and it reinforces the horrific truth of that day and those attacks. Sure, no one knows what REALLY happened on United flight 93, but this film gives a very touching realistic vision of what MAY have happened. And I think it was done in a wonderful way. The families of all the victims on the flight approved of this film and have come out praising it and saying it was a moving tribute to their loved ones.
And to everyone else, it's a painful-to-watch reminder of what happened and why our country is where it is today.

It's not glamorized. There are no big stars in the film. It's not an over-romanticized "hero" story. In fact, if it had been that way, it would've been easier to watch because it would've seemed very Hollywood and fake. This movie did not seem "hollywood" to me. It was shockingly truthful and depressing and real. You realize that any of those people could've easily been you. And the power of the human spirit - the fear and pain and strength and courage - was really the highlight of this film, not some propeganda or money-making theatrics.

It's the kind of film that actually MEANS something. Not very many movies do anymore.

JennaSide, to pick up ya point a lot of people "Don't Care" about anything whether it's mass murder or personal beliefs. The generations are unfortunately getting worse and worse.

The movie can be pretty tough to watch ,


Before I saw the flick .I thought that maybe they should have waited just a touch longer .But now I'm glad they did .



I wonder how much contreversity is going to come from "World Trade Center" the Stone flick coming in August.

prolly alot as oliver stone tends to overdo it and tell things that arent true ..... look at his JFK and Doors movies... So full of shit...

All the whining can stop because the movie is definitely worthy of the subject.  Anyone who has seen it will know this.

"whining"

Let's be honest. Most of this movie will be contrived. Why would I want to see a recreation of something based on insufficient facts? We all know what happened to that flight. However nobody knows the details of what happened other then the phone calls.

Nothing like a profit driven reminder of a national tragedy..........

A course it's progit driven .You really don't think the studio wants to lose money ?


But at the same time I think if the really wanted to make a huge profit the would have soent more on advertising the flick and put it in a lot more screens then they did.

my point exactly.....

Yes, whining.? Ya know?? What you do virtually every day....

In your typical fashion, SLC, you're making a judgement call without having all the facts.? In this case, you haven't even seen the damn movie.? The entire film is framed around the many known facts about the flight, as well as what was happening around the rest of the country that day.? The people that made the movie worked with many families of those who died on the flight, and their approach is rather conservative. Given the circumstances, the limited amount of filled-in dialogue and action is very possibly what happened.? There is nothing over-hyped, over-blown, or really inaccurate about any of it.

As far as your comment about profiting off a national tragedy, if that is the case, than Steven Spielberg is guilty for profiting of Schindler's List.? In fact, by your statement, anyone who makes a movie about any real-life event could be guilty of the same.

Schindler's list took place many decades back, not five years. Quite a difference.

I stand by my first post. Much of the movie is made based on speculation from insufficient facts.

I would dissagree there if only for the fact that the guy who plays the air controller who grounded the planes in the US that day, is infact the real guy who lived through it. I think thats pretty acurate.

propaganda ? martyrs ?

 not really, just people who were in fact involved knee deep in shit that day , along with the family members of who died who just wanted an accurate account (s much as possible) thier story to be told, and to not let people forget or become apathethic to the world again. There is no glamarization, nothing but basic facts, and on a side not people forget or may not have know that this was not the first movie based on this tragedy of this flight , its actually the 3rd, only thing different is that its playing to a world audience. I read a comemtary .in the news, and it hit home for me, not only that I live here , had strong connections to the day and my own life and intangibles that coulda happened that I think about, but to sum up......... "if this movie does anything I hope it renews the anger that united the nation. Instead of people turning away and saying .oh well it never affected me ".

the world is full of human tragedy not just 9/11. There are probably worse tragedies  out there that no one knows about and because there are so many tragedies people become immune to the poison. The importance of this movie is to remind people of such tragedies because people shouldn't pass them off as many on this thread have rightly pointed out.

you dont know or cant prove that the air force didnt shoot that plane down and made up the "lets roll" story just to have some public hero's to worship and movies to make... sure would be better than having to explain that the air force shot it out of the sky.....

can you prove the Holocaust happened? or pearl harbor? or the kosovo war?

take time to read the facts the commission identified. sure, not all details are known, but the movie is more than what happened on the plane.

partial cast listing...
Ben Sliney ....  Himself
Tobin Miller ....  Himself
Rich Sullivan ....  Himself
Tony Smith ....  Himself
James Fox ....  Himself (as Major James Fox)
Shawna Fox ....  Herself (as Staff Sgt. Shawna Fox)
Jeremy Powell ....  Himself (as 1st Lt. Jeremy Powell)
Greg Callahan ....  Himself
Rick Tepper ....  Himself

quote from Rolling Stone....
"There's not an ounce of Hollywood bull in this movie's 111 minutes. To achieve authenticity, Greengrass used little-known actors and recruited aviation and military personnel to play themselves, most notably Ben Sliney, who marked September 11th as his first day on the job as chief of air traffic control at the Federal Aviation Administration's command center in Virginia."

from the NY Times....
"In its vivid details and especially its narrative pacing, the account of the United 93 hijacking in the 9/11 report reads like a nail-biter, something cooked up by Sebastian Junger. Drawing on different sources, including the report and family members, Mr. Greengrass follows the same trajectory as the report"

I haven't seen it yet, but plan too. I think it's the right time for it as well; many people(as was previously stated) just don't seem to care, or think about 9/11. America's attention span is extremely short nowadays. You'd think that we'd never forget about 9/11, but some people want us to.  :'(