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Title: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: Steel_Angel on April 24, 2006, 11:40:42 PM
6 pages. mhmm mhmm. has this been discussed? if not then i'll post the scans. im talking about the june magazine ofcourse? :hihi:
its a very interesting read. heres a piece.

Quote
"CD is not just any album. It's the ultimate snapshot of egomania, betrayal,and personal vendetta. It's a byword for self-indulgence and obsession. If CD does hit the shelves in 2006, it will bring to a close the most expensive and covoluted saga the rock'n'roll industry has ever seen."

"What's often forgotten about the CD saga is the underlying reason why Rose has taken so long. While his actions can be interpreted as pure laziness or apathy, it's more likely that the exact opposit is true. Quite simply, Rose has set out to create the ultimate rock'n'roll album. If he succeeds in achieving it, the frosty criticism he has had to endure since 1994 will melt into unconditional praise. If he fails, it seems invitable that his mythology will shatter and his long-suffering fanbase will sadly drift away. But for now,, with CD still a promise on a press release rather than an album on your local music store's shelf, Rose remains a legend frozen in time. The world continues to wait."

edit:
scans in a zip file.
http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=07OVS9BONRUW60HYCGKSJ4TDXH
or
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BGRO7LBI

http://gunsreincarnate.bbfun.com/gunsreincarnate-post-970.html#970
and? thanx to James? www.gnr-banned-nation.tk too


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy
Post by: Hatts on April 24, 2006, 11:44:51 PM
Come on brother man don't be holding out on us.  I havent read it yet!  Please post away!!!!




Hatts


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy
Post by: BLS-Pride on April 24, 2006, 11:47:14 PM
First I've heard of this one.. Scan away.


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy
Post by: BLS-Pride on April 24, 2006, 11:55:54 PM
Thanks.. Read the first part and noticed they said the leaks were masterd tracks. Can they get something right once.


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: KIKO2K6 on April 25, 2006, 12:07:02 AM
''AXL was in diferent trip where he wanted to sound like Pearl Jam that was really tedious for me '' - Slash




Never heard this from Slash before .......is this true ?!
AXl wanted to sound industrial  like NIN  wtf like Pear Jam ????


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on April 25, 2006, 12:09:11 AM
''AXL was in diferent trip where he wanted to sound like Pearl Jam that was really tedious for me '' - Slash




Never heard this from Slash before .......is this true ?!
AXl wanted to sound industrial? like NIN? wtf like Pear Jam ????

Yes he said that and the funny thing is instead of slash sounding like PJ he sounded like STP in VR. LOL
Nice article tho, it has good info and is mostly correct.


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: BLS-Pride on April 25, 2006, 12:11:27 AM
Yeah the rest of it was pretty good. Hopefully the next magzine that has an article about CD it will be a review.


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on April 25, 2006, 12:17:02 AM
Yeah the rest of it was pretty good. Hopefully the next magzine that has an article about CD it will be a review.

Yeah I think we are ready for the real album now :)


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: oneway23 on April 25, 2006, 12:22:43 AM
Interesting that the article mentioned that Finck was "ousted" in '99, but never mentioned that he returned...Otherwise a great read and a nice summary of the personnel up to this point.  Thanks for posting.


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: GnFnR87 on April 25, 2006, 12:30:22 AM
Interesting that the article mentioned that Finck was "ousted" in '99, but never mentioned that he returned...Otherwise a great read and a nice summary of the personnel up to this point.? Thanks for posting.

yeah i noticed that too, i mean its not to hard to figure out the Finck returned i mean he played in ever show in 2001 and 2002, i find the fact that they didnt say he returned pretty strange..

this article just gets me more and more excited about seeing them in may and hopefully seeing an album this year!


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on April 25, 2006, 12:31:37 AM
Its also great to see AXl in more and more mag articles. Just wait until CD gets a release date and review how many articles there will be. Im sure we will get tons too after the NYC and RIR shows


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: FlashFlood on April 25, 2006, 12:38:21 AM
was this article about axl or slash i couldnt tell.


and why is popcorn not listed as a member?


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: MR W,AXL ROSE on April 25, 2006, 12:39:33 AM
great read.  :beer: thanks for posting frozen inferno  : ok:


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: WhatIsItMan on April 25, 2006, 12:42:00 AM
Thanks for the read.


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: SLCPUNK on April 25, 2006, 12:44:33 AM
Looks like a good read.........


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: gabble on April 25, 2006, 12:49:07 AM
What a waste of a good tree.? Inaccurate and boring.


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: Smoking Guns on April 25, 2006, 12:49:33 AM
Great article. ?Lots of great pics. ?The spin on the article seems to lean towards what Slash says. ?TG seems as excited as we are for the new album. ?I think it is going to be great. ?


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: shotgun_blue on April 25, 2006, 02:05:08 AM
Cant read the last two pages  ???


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: NicoRourke on April 25, 2006, 03:24:14 AM
The scans are nowhere to be seen :no:


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: Sillything on April 25, 2006, 03:48:22 AM
Can't see it either :no:


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: coolman78SLASH on April 25, 2006, 03:58:20 AM
I really want to read it but the pics are removed, could someone please scan them?



Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: Red1 on April 25, 2006, 04:26:24 AM
What a waste of a good tree.? Inaccurate and boring.

What an idiot......


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: Voodoochild on April 25, 2006, 05:19:53 AM
Please, if someone saved the scans, pm me. I'm translating the article and need the scans #3, 4 and 5.


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: WARose on April 25, 2006, 08:15:00 AM
the pic`s bandwith exceeded :'(

could someone help me out?


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: JB9988 on April 25, 2006, 08:30:50 AM
What a waste of a good tree.  Inaccurate and boring.
I SHOULD HAVE SMOKED IT!


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: 88 Days on April 25, 2006, 09:15:17 AM
Quote
"CD is not just any album. It's the ultimate snapshot of egomania, betrayal,and personal vendetta. It's a byword for self-indulgence and obsession. If CD does hit the shelves in 2006, it will bring to a close the most expensive and covoluted saga the rock'n'roll industry has ever seen."

"What's often forgotten about the CD saga is the underlying reason why Rose has taken so long. While his actions can be interpreted as pure laziness or apathy, it's more likely that the exact opposit is true. Quite simply, Rose has set out to create the ultimate rock'n'roll album. If he succeeds in achieving it, the frosty criticism he has had to endure since 1994 will melt into unconditional praise. If he fails, it seems invitable that his mythology will shatter and his long-suffering fanbase will sadly drift away. But for now,, with CD still a promise on a press release rather than an album on your local music store's shelf, Rose remains a legend frozen in time. The world continues to wait."

i really liked this piece. very well written, i especially like the ending. true words.


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: JB9988 on April 25, 2006, 12:28:41 PM
they make it sound likr really odd at the end.


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on April 25, 2006, 01:00:45 PM
someone should just transcribe the article


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: 88 Days on April 25, 2006, 01:10:24 PM
they make it sound likr really odd at the end.

well it IS odd :hihi:


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: Steel_Angel on April 25, 2006, 03:22:11 PM
scans in a zip file.
http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=07OVS9BONRUW60HYCGKSJ4TDXH
or
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BGRO7LBI


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: WARose on April 25, 2006, 04:06:40 PM
scans in a zip file.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BGRO7LBI

thanks : ok:


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: Steel_Angel on April 25, 2006, 04:09:16 PM
no problem..


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: oldgunsfan on April 25, 2006, 04:38:02 PM
thansk for doing that.....thought the article was pretty fair


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: crofty on April 25, 2006, 05:55:44 PM
It was interesting to hear Buckethead's real name.


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: WARose on April 25, 2006, 06:10:58 PM
the last page was actually pretty cool : ok:

the rest was good though


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: bazgnr on April 25, 2006, 07:25:56 PM
Great article - thanks for posting!? Not quite as accurate as it could be in certain spots, but it nicely plays up both the dramas past and present, not to mention the building hype surrounding Axl and the ever-looming release of Chinese Democracy...


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: jbenzz on April 25, 2006, 07:29:21 PM
I agree, there were definetly some inaccuracies and the guy misconstrued alot of things, but it was one of the fairest and detailed articles about GNR that I've read.


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: killingvector on April 25, 2006, 07:35:00 PM
Was that written by two different people? The first half of the article is quite critical of and dispersive of blame on Axl. The last half actually is quite complimentary. A better writer perhaps would better unify the message of the piece and avoid too many quotes from an obviously biased ex-member in Slash. Was there any mention of the bitterly divisive lawsuit?


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: CAFC Nick on April 25, 2006, 07:36:02 PM
Pretty good review in my opinion. One of the reasonably accurate reviews, instead of the normal Axl Rose, Josh Freese, Paul Huge, Robin Finck and Dizzy articles...it is actually up-to-date with the last tour and the new tracks. Pretty cool.


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: Voodoochild on April 25, 2006, 07:44:53 PM
Thanks again for the scans, man! :beer:


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: JB9988 on April 25, 2006, 08:21:53 PM
yea good scans....i didnt read them though but thanks anyways :smoking:


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: zwgman on April 26, 2006, 12:28:47 AM
They mention a NYTimes article a lot....does anyone happen to have that one? Or a Link, please? 8)


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: SLCPUNK on April 26, 2006, 03:57:16 AM
That was a great article, and it seemed very positive...........


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: elevendayempire on April 26, 2006, 04:42:19 AM
A better writer perhaps would better unify the message of the piece and avoid too many quotes from an obviously biased ex-member in Slash.
Speaking as a journo... the only way to balance the tone of the piece would be to find quotes from a more amenable source. The problem is, they're all under gag orders from Axl...  :)

SG


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: Scabbie on April 26, 2006, 07:59:40 PM
Thanks Frozen Inferno.  : ok:

I think people make too bigger deal about Axl taking time off from recording. So what, he needed some space.


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: kupirock on April 27, 2006, 10:35:09 AM
Thanks  for the scans : ok:


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: St_Jimmyuk on April 27, 2006, 05:35:54 PM
thats actually one of the most optimistic articles and very well written ive read on gnr in a while i love how it ended.  Made fun of bucket head a bit... does he really comunicate with a hand puppet ?:D


Title: Re: Total Guitar Article On Chinese Democracy (pics)
Post by: zwgman on April 27, 2006, 07:28:13 PM
here's the NYTimes article for those who haven't read it... : ok:

           http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/06/arts/music/06leed.html?ex=1267851600&en=a13c0fac87670850&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland