Here Today... Gone To Hell!

  With Axl out and about in NYC all the time, where the hell are these guys rehearsing?  Are Axl's bandmates currently in NYC as well?  With only 2 and a half weeks to go before their first performance in nearly 3 and a half years, I'm very curious as to how hard they are rehearsing and how serious this new comback is being taken.  What do you guys think? 

The old band always did it without Axl because he wanted to save his voice, I assume its the same with this  band. Axl alluded to this in 2002 when he said Tommy let the rehearsals.

Yea the band (both old and new) plays to a backing track of Axls vocals.  The Tokyo video shows that if you watch the interviews close enough.

Axl never (ok...maybe not never..rarely) reherses.

Axl never (ok....maybe not never...rarely) sound checks.

The band reherses the music (apparently with Tommy leading the rehersals by most accounts).

Axl sings at the warm up shows.

I assume there is some communication between them all, to talk about set list, etc.....

I also think it's a good idea for Axl to be whipping his ass into shape.  Going on tour requires alot of energy.  The better shape he is in, the better frontman he will be. 

I wish he would take his perfectionist stance towards his live performance as he does with a studio record

I think its ridculous that axl isn't at the rehearshals.... he should be practising for two hours a day... because if he isn't he is going to have a rude awakening come Hammerstein.... I want him strong and ready not weak and unprepared.

He never has before, why would he now?

nah, i think he'll rehearse...the whereabouts though i have nooo idea. But then again, the NYC are his how you say uhm.  Practice shows? <_< don't kill me if i'm wrong  :-X :-X :-X
I'm not really sure
But i'm expecting a good show, hopefully he doesn't blow off a concert lol  :P

Axl has been in new york all this time because that where the album is being mastered.

I really think he will be ready for these shows. He booked 4 of them, and in NYC, where attention is going to be maximized. If he blows off a show or sucks it up voice-wise, the press will eat him alive. Even if he is not at the rehearsals with the rest of the band, i am sure he is practicing in NYC, even if he is just singing to a recording. Plus it seems he is in much better shape than he was in 02, so he shouldn't get out of breath like he did then.

 :rofl: Dont get your hopes up!

Maybe he canceled the tour to get into shape? :hihi:

Come on there is got to be something behind him being there so long. The shows and all that. To me there more to the story here.

A better question is, it's like three weeks until the shows, who the fuck is going to be playing guitar? Is it gonna be Richard & Robin, or is there a third guy in the mix?

OK so we have a few axl sightings over the past 5 months,each one being on a night out on the town.so what does he do all the other times when hes not out boozing and partying,exactly,hes rehearsing his lines and singing techniques.dont worry about axl being in shape coz hes looking better now than he did in 2002.hes probebly done quite a bit of practice WITH the band over the past couple of years but we dont hear about that do we.hes also probebly spent sometime with the band lately that we havnt heard about. ?:peace: .

and who says the band aint in NY or somewhere near there.

oooo that's lowwwwww
 :rofl:
but yea, he probably needs to get back in shape. he's gonna be loosing his breath out there on stage lol

At this time for a new guy to learn the songs in 3 weeks not going to happen. The only thing is if the guy has been in the fold for sometime and we just don't know it yet. OR it could be someone who has play with them before like a gilby or izzy or paul.

I also think some of the guys are in NY. Dizzy was on Sirius last week and Sirius studios are in NYC. Surly him and Axl had to hook up while they were both in the city.

There is no way that the 3rd guitarist is brand new in the last few weeks, or that it's a nobody. It has to be a huge name or it wouldn't be such a secret. And no that doesn't point right at slash.

Though one can hope....

If auditions are taking place, then Axl has to be there. He's not going to allow hired guns to make such a monumental decision. But let's say BH is back and if Fortus is out you put Huge into the mix, then there's no reason for Axl to be at any rehearsals.

When i seen tommy her in prov in 2003 he told me him and the band he play with at the time was from around Providence. There is a big place here for band to play and record. They could be there(with out axl) and be getting ready. Tommy told me that they have working on play other old songs from UYI idk if we will see them play anything seeing that he told me this in 2003 but that would be nice. LOL at the time i told him Bucket anfd Rob sould both play the opening of sweet child at the same time. AND he love that idear. But agen i told to him in 2003 so who knows. WOULD be great!!

Since so many sightings of people in and around GN'R are happening in NYC, I'm sure rehearsals are going on. Having said that I have to ask again; Axl has never been at rehearsals for any version of this band before, why would he now?

maybe hes not rehearsed much with the band back in the early 90s but they were touring a LOT more back then.Axl knows hes been dormant for a long time and this band is something new even to Axl.

I for one feel that Axl has to do everything in his power to make these shows amazing. That includes being in shape and rehearsing.

If he tales a blaze type approach as he did in 2002, theres no reason to think his voice wont suck again and he'll lose breath etc...

Its not 91, nor is it 87. He needs to put some major effort in this time

I think he'll do a few rehearsals early on but may save his voice later on. We know how much Axl's voice can differ show to show so I'm sure he'll be preparing this as much as possible.

I wouldln't expect perfection in the NY shows, after all they are warm up shows  : ok:  They will probably kick ass like HOB tho  :D

Good call. I didn't think of that at first. I just gotta think there has to be a delicate balance between saving your voice and making sure it's prepared and ready to go ya know?

if axl hasnt rehearsed with the band then he would have prepared some other way like hiring session playeres to play the songs while he sings (during the times when the other members were doing solo projects etc).and recently getting together with the band rehearsing for maybe 3-4 days would then be enough (closer to the first NY show).

Maybe the third guitarist is some whiz kid who no one's ever heard of before, and is a surprise.  It's highly possible.  Axl went way outside the box with Buckethead, and that was to me a great success at least in the recording process based on what we've heard.  It wouldn't be a shocker if Axl went out of the box again and brought in some unknown kid who can play like hell but hasn't been heard of before

now i think that would be a great idea,somebody thats a killer on the axe but has never been heard of before.it would have given axl more of a choice in finding a suitable replacement for mr bucket.

They are rehersing in Burbank, CA. without Axl.  End of thread.

there was somebody in another thread that said it is possible for axl to go to rehearsals during the week and in the weekend to go to ny to have fun. that is a possibility.

another possibility is that axl is not rehearsing with them. it's not so surprising of him. if you watch the "7 days in rio" you'll see that matt says he has never rehearsed with axl. the rio show was his first time playing with axl. so i wouldn't be surprised if he didn't show up for rehearsals.

and he is getting into shape. he's out partying every night in ny. so we'll get the appetite era axl

The band are locked away rehearsing while Axl goes out shopping, drinking and partying  :hihi:
Axl's rehearsal will be at the up and coming warm up gig's  :hihi:

Axl's management should advised him to rehearse alot more as during the failed 2002 tour there were times when an out of breath Axl was the weakest link in the new GnR link up  :-\

Do you think Axl is actually there rehearsing? He was never to fond of it in the past. Hope he is there.


 :peace:

I doubt he's there, listen to the Vegas 01 bootleg, he says he only went to one rehearsal and the soundcheck before they played the first show. As of Thursday he was still in New York, while the rest of the band are in Burbank California, as someone said a few posts above. Tommy is the musical director of the band, my guess is he is the one responsible for getting the band ready. As long as they are tight enough Axl will be fine.......... After 13 years i think he knows the songs pretty well! He Better  :peace:

Jonx

That would piss the fuck outta me if my singer or any other member of my band didnt show up to practice. I hope he is going to a few rehearsals atleast.


 :peace:

Sounds right to me.  It's Axl - if you don't think he's prepared, then you might as well not go to the show.  Axl doesn't rehearse, he performs.

i hope axl is in shape for the warm up gigs and tour. ?in 02 he was terribly out of shape, dont get me wrong i dont expect him to be running and singing all over like he did 15 years ago but he should be able to put on a great show as long as he is in good shape. ?as i ve been saying one of the worst part of the 2002 tour wasnt axl however it was the overall shows production, i hope theyre isnt micro phone problems, i hope the tours crew doesnt fuck up, the overall show just needs to be tighter.

It's rock and roll, not a tv show.

Well apparantly Axl is the workout King at the moment so i dont think general fitness is something to worry about. In 02 he wasnt really out of shape, his new vocal style doesnt go down so well when he is running all over the place, he shouldnt be running around so much, it doesnt suit his new vocal style, he is also getting on in life.... its natural. As for the sound issue, it was a problem, but they are probably a result of the fact that the band is probably a bitch to get sounding right, not to mention the fact that Axl used to fire people from the stage back in the Appetite/Illusion days when things went wrong, my guess is that no one ever stays round long enough to get the right feel/sound of the band. Hopefully things will be different this time round. Probably not though  : ok:

Jonx

He sounded like shit at RIR3. Especially when he ran up n down the stage. But he didnt do all that much running in 2002 and he sounded 600% better.


 :peace:

He sounded MUCH better in RiR3, listen to boston 02... there he sounds like shit!...
i hope he sounds better now!!!

Yeah, I liked how he sounded at RIR3 much more than at any of the 2002 concerts - We'll see what his voice sounds like soon enough though...

Important to note: Hammerstein is small, and is part of a "music" school infrastructure. The acoustics in this place will be 1000% better than any arena. In addition if you poke around on the venue's website, there is no end of the latest in high tech "music" gear. If Axl sounds like shit, it will be 100% obvious, there will be no blaming the sound man or the venue.

That being said, I think this place was chosen for all of the above reasons. There is a lot of layering and extra "electronica" elements to the new songs and this place is perfect to iron all that stuff out.

Can't wait for 5/12!

I have to figure that some members of the band will be spotted in and around the venue now that we're under two weeks away (!!!) from the show. Maybe Axl will be spotted around there and it'll settle this issue.

Exactly!  This is the right kinda venue for him and the band to show off the sound . And hammerstein acoustically is one of the top notch venues . Arenas and stadiums you really need to have great sound engineers to bring the sound to the masses. This will be a more intimit shows , and it just comes down to GNR to perform and deliver. There are no exits , excuses if they sound bad. (which I for one doubt they will). BUT all the same at the end of the day if it sucked , then the band would have to look at itself.

I hope Axl gets a chance to rehearse with the band for a few days before coming to ny.....I dont wanna hear him say this is the first time he picked up a mic since msg.....these are big shows and if they deliver like they did at msg they will get a lot of praise

That rock in rio recording sucks.  Not the performance but the actual recording is shitty as hell.

The best part about it was Axl's jungle opener.

That was the most amazing intro to jungle I've ever heard.  Axl had way too much space to run though. 

I hope he at least practices...

Yeah the actually broadcast was horrible, the mix was all wrong. The worst part for me were Brains drums, they sound horrible, to me that is the most vital part of any live recording, the right sort of drum sound, i dunno...... its hard to convey what im talking about, hopefully someone understands!

Jonx

yeah   i think i know what you`re talking about....    it sounds not "right"

bad news, the stage at Rock in Rio this year is massive!

to much reverb on snare! :/

Yep, I've seen it myself ;)

Maybe in the shower. It doesn't seem that he takes the time to rehearse with the band. I think that's a bad thing. He was never the kind of person to show up for rehearsal, and I think his performance suffered because of that. Hope he's a smarter boy this time around. Since the bandmembers haven't seen each other in the same room for years (not since 2002 as far as I know), I think it is very important to have the whole band in one spot, rehearsing their asses off, and that would include the frontman. Get that chemistry flowing.

I just hope we don't end up with a nearly identical setlist again if he should decide not to do rehearsals.

tommy is leading the rehearsals....   axl not rehearsing has no impact on the setlist anyway...

I just meant if he was there throwing out ideas and stuff. I'm sure he could do that by phone, personal messenger or Blackberry anyways.  :hihi:

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=25929.msg468873#msg468873

i just want to quote myself :hihi:

There are alot of fx on Axls voice in the 2002 bootlegs, especially delay. Do u think it will be the same this time round? I actually like the vocal fx he had so if it is the same I wont mind.   : ok:


 :peace:

As far as echo and reverb there's almost always alot of that on everyone's voice in concert. I don't think he'll use much more then that.

But compared to UYI tour there is so much more delay n reverb used on the CD tour. But the amount used on the cd tour mad me think if it was used as an enhancment on the vocals or not.


 :peace:

Yeah, who knows. I'm sure because Axl is using this new falsetto type voice that they process his voice differently. I understand what you're saying though, we'll have to see. If the rumors of filming of anysort are true then we'll probably get a completely dry mix for the night of the show so they can manipulate it as much as they want after the fact.

Another thing that was alot better about the production on the CD tour was the lack of feed back unlike during UYI tour. All through UYI vids there is a real top end feed back for the first 2 or 3 songs and then partialy through out the rest of the gig to. Is it the same soundtech?


 :peace:

Another thing that was alot better about the production on the CD tour was the lack of feed back unlike during UYI tour. All through UYI vids there is a real top end feed back for the first 2 or 3 songs and then partialy through out the rest of the gig to. Is it the same soundtech?


 :peace:

I couldn't say for sure. I've heard both yes and no. I know that when the GNR camp split alot of people went with certain members they were closer friends with but I don't know what happened with the sound team. Like I said, I've heard both yes and no. Maybe someone else knows the status and can post a definate answer?