Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Hey! I know these two tracks seems to be dissed by most fans. But I really like them both alot! And I do really hope that they are on the album and are performed live this summer. So I just want to make a thread about these songs and their great qualities.

 For example I played Silkworms to a friend of mine and his girlfriend and they both saw it's potential ant thought it was the best new track next to Better. They immediatly saw it's connection to the Sex Pistols and they are quiet rigth in my opinion. AFD was punk for the 80's and Silkworms continues in the same vein for the 2000ands and the lyrics are so awesome!

And Rhiad is really fantastic! What is there not to like about this song? It's classic GNR as far as I am concerned and it would be a great opener for the tour. It truly kicks ass and the riffs are somewhat similar to Use Your Illussion I

So I could be right or wrong but this is a thread for focusing on the qualaties of the songs since I'm already aware they been bashe quiet a bit :peace:

Riyadh and the Bedouins is my favorite song by the current incarnation of Guns N' Roses  : ok:

Rhiad would sound great in the studio.. especially with big drums when he sings the chorus....

Silkworms isn't the greatest in my opinion.

i love rhyiad and silkworms is a decent rocker, nothing special though :peace:

Hehe I remember starting a Silkworms appreciation thread a while back.

The intro to it is fantastic. Listen to the HOB 2001 version. It's shit hot.

I love Riyadh. It's my favorite new Gun's song. I would be very happy to hear the studio
version. :beer:

i wouldnt mind if they played rhiad it sounded pretty cool, maybe they tweaked some things on it, but they could flush silkworms i hope they dont play it in nyc

I like Rhiad, I think it's a rocking song.  Silkworms isn't what I want to hear from GnR, the lyrics were bad and I didn't like Axl singing with the Down On The Farm voice, but the music itself is actually cool

Can't say I share your enthusiasm for these songs.  Maybe they take some time to grow on you though.  Back in 2002 I focused more on the 3 songs they played at every show then these 2 so I didn't really give them many listens.  After all, even the leaked tracks took a couple listens to fully appreciate.

I can't even say that I've heard either Rhiad or Silkworms.   In fact, they're the only two new songs I haven't heard from the list.  Hopefully I get the chance before traveling to NYC on the 12th...

Ah, the forgotten CD songs.

Rhiad would be awesome in the studio if Axl redid the lyrics and structure of the lyrics - That intro is fucking cool.  : ok:

Same deal with Silkworms - Musically, I love it - The little guitar jabs between the electronica are terrific. If Axl tinkered with how it was sung, he'd really have something.

I've always dug silk worms. The intro is very cool sounding. the lyrics and melody touch on a piece of angst we've all felt at one time or another... and the slow clean breakdown in the middle has some of the coolest guitar tones i've heard. I like the blantent aggression in it.

Rhiad is cool... not blown away by the lyrics but the melody is strong and it rocks.

It's a good thing you're making a tribute to these songs here. 'Cause I don't think they'll be playing them again.

I think otherwise.   We'll see maybe like in less than a month.


Or rather more like pil ie the band John rydon made after he "quited" the pistols. I prefer pil to the pistols btw.

Anyways, I agree with you on both fronts.
Although the version we've heard would need some more work imo, fantastic is the word for Rhiad. : ok:

Riyadh and the Bedouins in my opinion is probably the worst song out of the new 9 songs (I think it's 9 songs) that I've heard, I've listened to each different bootleg version out there, and even watched the bootleg videos of it over and over and over, I still can't get into the song. I don't like all the screeming in it, maybe if he did something else, except those whoa whoa's part, it would have a lot of potential. As far as Silkworms go, I think it's a great song, and would love to eventually hear a studio or demo version of it.

Matter of taste but your taste is quite an interesting one, which is good.
Can you name some other bands/music you're into?

Riyadh is just an amazing song, The music is so fast and it sounds complex, more so then it really is, It's very busy. The London, England Version from 2002 is by far the best version of this song. The last chorus is fantastic, like Mr. I said a studio version would be awesome. Silkworms is a deifferent story altogether, aside from the music just being very "thrown together" (I dont think the instruments mesh well) the lyrics are horrible. Pittman and reed should leave the lyric writing to Mr. Rose.

By the way I hope they play Riyadh on May 15th!!!

I've always liked Rhiad too. Such a kickass song. Crushing guitars, pounding drums, and Zepplin style vocals. Nothing wrong with that in my book. I always had a soft spot for Silkworms. It puts a smile on my face on account of it's goofy, disgusting lyrics. Cool guitar as well. Not Axl's best but better than My World.

Would be cool to hear Rhiad again, both studio and live. I hope Silkworms appears on a b-side somewhere - love the venomous lyrics  : ok:

i think they're both shit, they'd taint what ( BY LISTENING TO THE DEMO'S) is set to be a great album.

I love riyadh esp the hob version

riyadh  is solid, and would probably be AMAZING as a studio cut.

silkworms? hey diz, we love ya anyways : ok: :hihi:

I don't really care for Silkworms but Riyadh isn't too bad. The studio version of it probably sounds killer! : ok:

I also like both songs. I think Riyadh and the Bedouins would be great as a studio cut and hope it is on the cd. I liked the version from Auburn Hills. The only time they played it on the 2002 - 2003 North America "Chinese Democracy" World Tour  :(. Silkworms is not a bad song. I just don't think it will be on the cd.

Silkworms is shit and should never be played again....

Rhiayad was forgettable also.....

youre opinion is more than valid my friend, but Ive got to tell you, as far as im concerned those are the two WORST tracks ive ever heard performed by anyone....and putting a GnR sticker on them would be the biggest mistake Axl will ever make (2nd to not turning up on June 9th in Dublin that is) 8)

I like them both, just wish I could hear them in a better quality recording. IMO they should include them both on CD.

mmm.... B-sides and thats being charitable

Maybe there should be a mid-show medley of OMG, Rhyiad and Sillkworms. That way everyone can get a beer if they're not into it, the rest can enjoy the tunes.

I've always thought Rhyiad has great potential and I'm sure they were experimenting with the song in the last tour. I've found myself listening to Silkworms quite a lot recently too, there's some of the old GN'R attitude in their. Much prefer this song to My World.

Sounds like a plan, perhaps they could use the Silkworms intro to the same effect as the Exorcist video in 2001.

Definitely right on with the Down on the Farm reference. I like the music in Silkworms a lot though -

 :hihi:

Couldn't agree more : ok:

i think silworms is a descent song. it rocks. Kind of like a new tyoe of punk song.

rhiad...ill wait on it. SO far it doesnt do much for me other than the intro and the bucket solo

rhiad is awful !!! just sounds like a mess to me  ???

silkworms is cool

Both of these songs are horrible.  Songs like this give nu GNR a horrible name.  Songs like Better show us the potential of this band.  Lets just consider these two songs a failed experiment in the world of GNR.  You can throw Oh My God in there too.  After Oh My God, all I can say is "Oh My God, that was awful."  Bring on Better!

sounds good to me ^
                               

I agree with most of the posters here...Rhiad has a TON of potential and probably would be a great studio track.

As for Silk Worms...that track is pure garbage, which is probably why on one of the live versions that I heard, he told the crowd it was Dizzy and Pitman who compsed it.

Rhiad rocks.
Silkworms sucks.

When he screams "Salvation" and then "Frustration" it just sounds so cheesy.  Is Salvation the world that when you have nothing to sing about, just scream "salvation" and that will justify what you are trying to say?  Seems like a lot of bands sing about "salvation."  I can't beleive the song Better and TWAT came from the same artist that did these two. 

Rhiad from the Vegas show sounded very unfinished although had potential. There was a good sound happening although on the lyrics side sounded like Axl had writers block. It'll be good to hear a finished studio version although i thought i read someplace that Rhiad and Silkworms were not to be expected on the finished album.

I truly think Rhiad would make a solid album track (judging from the HoB version), but Silkworms I could do without...

Dizzy said silk wouldn't make the first but perhaps one of the latter albums.  8)

I'd rahter have that they open the shows with Rhiad and Silkworms than le't say It'so Easy and Mr.Brownstone. Time to move on and these songs rock!

silkworms is the new my world.

ive never really had a chance to give rhiad a good listen.

im pretty sure that axl stated that silkworms was going to be on the album, it was just something dizzy and pitman came up with and they decided to play it live, thats all.

I know everyone has there opinion, but both of those songs to my ears and brain are awful.

There is a reason Axl stopped playing them. Just as there are reasons that the original incarnation of the band stopped playing or never released certain songs. The reason is they did not think they were up to par with the quality of work that they/Axl wants their name attached to.

Frankly, I hope Axl has some better songs up his sleeve than what has been released/leaked thus far. I am a huge fan, but none of those songs are great in the context which I have heard them.

Dear god please, hopefully, some producer has talked him out of those played out hip hop beats and...bad intros. Anyway, just my opinion. :beer:

I wouldn't say I'm a huge fan of such and such a Rock band if I found none of its works great.  ???

I love Rhiad. Anyone who says its a mess are just judging by the quality of the bootlegs. The instrumental is the best of the new band, IMO. Awesome riffs, drums and guitar work. My favourite track along with Better.

Silkworms could be a lot better with some tweaking. The RIR version sounded messed because of the mix, the HOB sounds way better.

Just give those tracks a listening when they will be released in any form (soundboard/demo/studio).