Here Today... Gone To Hell!

You would think sometime soon we would find out who is going to be with him.  Hopefully, we find out in the next 10 days.  Mysteron?

We'll know by May 13th :)

Richard Fortus for sure? - all the GNR tour dates are on his website
Robin Finck (I guess)
Tommy Stinson
Dizzy Reed (The good old Dizzy, 16 years in GNR)
Brain (??)
Pittman (??)

and maybe, maybe, maybe a possible special guest (Slash? Izzy? Duff? Matt?). But it's unlikely.

That is the one million dollars question  : ok:



we have to wait and see...

I just hope Brain is still the drummer. Lots of people don't really see how much important a good drummer is in a Rock band. It's definitely a key force.
Drummers are always very underrated.

Band line up is same as 2002 minus Buckethead.

The band are actively looking for a new guitarist - although no one has been confirmed yet.  : ok:

must be a kick in the face for robin and richard, or not? i mean, can't they handle buckets parts?

as long as axl is there it doesn't really matter to me anyways, I couldn't tell you who was up there anyways..

brain's in!

Anyone think a good band to play with GNR is Atreyu .... i think its a killer combo but thats my own opinion i also like the idea of avenged playing :beer:

No, they can't.  It's not that Finck and Fortus aren't good or talented players, but Buckethead's one of the most talented guitarists ever to play and that's not an exagerration.  His precision and speed, along with versatility are all very high and he's also a great writer.  Fortus and Finck are skilled players and good songwriters, but are not capable of playing Buckethead's parts.  That's not really an insult, it's just the plain truth, there aren't many people out there capable of playing the way Buckethead does

yep, it's the truth.

Hillel Slovak.  Nice name.  He was great.

I think it'd rock if Soul Asylum opend for Guns. Tommy will be there anyways so why not bring the rest of Soul Asylum along :hihi:. Plus Soul Asylum are an amazing live act.

what the hell r u talking about?? firstly "bucketheads" parts are mostly slash's parts and finck and fortus can easily handle that. Secondly, if ur talking about bucketheads parts on the new songs, theres certainly nothing ive heard in any live new guns n roses song that bucket played that they can't handle. Sure bucket's good, but he hasnt done anything that the other two cant play. I mean im sure finck and fortus could play anything buckethead could - maybe they couldnt create it - but they could copy it, like all good guitarists. (except satriani nobody can copy him cept steve vai)

ANyway i personally think they should get tracii guns. i mean we'll never see slash in guns again realisticly. so the guitarists should be tracii guns and izzy. i dont mind fortus but i hate finck. coz hes UGLY and a FREAK

WHAT??? YOU HATE FINCK COZ HES UGLY!!!!!! GET A FUKIN LIFE!!!!! :rant:

Finck and Fortus couldn't play his parts on some of the new songs, particularly the IRS solo and the Better fills and center solo, as well as the outro on TWAT particularly the middle section of it

Another positive that Buckethead made was his fresh take on the solos in old songs that was as good as if not better than the original.  Witness November Rain, where Finck and Fortus are shaky in their recreations of Slash's solos while Buckethead nails the outro, or on Nightrain when Buckethead takes the solo to new levels and IMO played a better solo than the original.  Buckethead at the very least played the solos on the old songs as well as Slash did, Finck and Fortus did great on some, but on NR and SCOM the solos were not as good as they would've been if Buckethead had played them all

Buckethead is one of the most phemonanally underrated guitarists of all time...seeing him with Guns N' Roses was one of the best treats of my life. It was an amazing combo...althought I'd take Slash over him any day of the week.

I'd like to play with AXL :love: Anyway,whoever they have,I have faith that he/she will be amazing.

WHAT???? THERES A HE/SHE IN THE BAND!!!!!!   and poeple said bucket was strange,imagine havin a he/she in the band. :hihi:

on topic:
     
            fortus
            finck
            dizzy
            brain
            tommy
            pittman?
            possible third guitarist (im hopin for john 5) and it WONT be Slash.although i would wet my grundies if it was  :yes:

So the first show is only a few weeks away and they still don't have a lead guitarist? Good lord!

they have lead guitarrist, just not the "killer" kind of lead guitarrist.

If you analyze the 2002 tour, BH definitevely kicked ass, although i found him kinda stupid, i admit that he played the more difficult GN?R solos, and did it with a great level and actually, yes, he improved some of them. As for fortus he did a good job playing the solos he played, but finck.......... damn, just made me sad, couldn?t reach the slash?s level in any single solo..... well he did decently in the SCOM intro... at least :hihi: and yes he?s a fucking freak, sorry, don?t like him, thanx to him and probably BH, people called it the axl?s circus at some point, so go guess

i also think that if there?s going to be a surprise, like slash in the band, which i doubt it, it may not be in these shows, but most likely in the Rock in Lisbon gig.

how do you know that??? you dont know that.....

There is no way the line up is not set at this point, they would not have confirmed dates this close if there was any doubt about who is playing. They need to blow people away this time. Sloppy performances with a guitarist who's been playing the the band for 2 weeks will not work.

.  .. ...the demons in his head thats who ;D

you're damn right he was! ;)

I think they have a 3rd guitarist, but they're keeping it quiet.  And I'm not entirely confident that the 3rd guitarist would be at the New York dates, just to fuck with the fans a little more.  Everyone would come back from the shows and say "there's no 3rd guitarist, what a rip off!"  Meanwhile, there's a "surprise" announced for Lisbon.  Do you think they'd blow the surprise two weeks early in New York?  I'd doubt it.

What? So if there was not a 3rd guitar player you would consider it to be a "rip off"? What about Robin and Richard man? they don't count for you?
Besides as far as I know, the band or Axl or the Management have never said "there will have a 3rd guitar player", they have never promized anything on that, that's just fans speculations. If it didn't happen, I personately wouldn't consider it as a "rip off" at all.

I'm not going...

But people are expecting a surprise in New York and I don't think it's happening, that's all I'm saying.  And if there's a 3rd guitarist and he's not announced by the New York dates, I don't expect him to be there.  I'm sure some people will be disappointed about that, nesquick.

Yes I do.  : ok: :hihi:

I don't think so. People won't go to the show to see who the 3rd guitar player is, that will not be their main interest. People will go to the show to listen to GNR music, to see Axl and the band. They will enjoy it, and you will see the following day the HTGH fans reviews will be awesome, 3rd guitar player, or not. That's not that important.? A 3rd guitar player is not vital for the band. It might be "a plus" (or not), but the legacy of the band or the music or anything else doesn't depend on whether we will see a 3rd guitar player or not. This band can continue and rock like motherfuckers with 2 guitar players, 1 bass player, 1 drummer, 2 keyboardists and Mr Axl Rose himself.

Don't consider a (possible) 3rd guitar player as the messiah.

That remains to be seen.  Original GNR could have done it.  We haven't seen this incarnation of GNR with 2 guitarists, they've yet to prove themselves as a 2 guitarist band.  I'm not saying that Finck and Fortus can't handle it, I just haven't heard them as a 2-man unit.  And neither has anyone else in here for that matter.  Meanwhile, the new songs were written for 3 guitarists.  Certainly, if they have been actively pursuing a 3rd guitarist, they have not been prepared to function as a 2 guitarist band.  That may have all changed over the past few weeks and the songs may have been reworked, but as of yet it remains to be seen if they can and will function with 2 guitar players.

"The Blues" worked great with 2 guitar players in 2002  : ok:

Well just to add fuel to the fire......

If the band is rehearsing in L.A. now, it is interesting that Buckethead has a few solo dates in San Diego (I'm going), L.A., and San Jose this week.

I doubt he's in, but its an interesting coincidence.

One song out of how many? at least 11? ? : ok:

I'd like to hear what they can do if they choose to go the 2 guitarist route. ?I just don't think it will happen for the full tour. ?It may or may not happen in New York, and people would either like it or dislike it (you know not everyone will agree). ?I tend to think that the lineup may not be complete at New York, contrary to common belief here. ?If there's a surprise announced for RIR, I can't see them blowing it in New York... unless the surprise is something totally different. ?But of course, those are just my thoughts.
 :peace:

maybe the surprise is Tracy and Roberta are back?

With or without a third guitarist in nyc I would be happy... I just don't want to hear buckethead's parts played unlike how they would sound on cd..

Without a third guitarist the only way you'll hear the songs played how they will sound on CD is if all Buckets parts have been re-recorded.

Exactly.  It's a recipe for disaster.

They don't have one that we know of.

If Buckethead's parts stay on the album it's crucial they get a third guy in to cover that. I'm sorry but Finck and Fortus certainly don't have the chops to handle those parts. Great guitar players, but no. Buckethead is, for all intents and purposes, a gimmick guitarists. He stands out not only because he's a wierdo with a bucket on his head, but because he can shred the fuck out of a guitar like few other people can. His allure would have worn off a long time ago if anyone could play like that.

They need a "technique" guy to handle those parts. Fortus? He's too much in that Stones/Izzy kind of vibe, more feel than technique. Finck? Judging from what I have heard him play already there's no way he can play that fast either, he's much more melodic and not as much into flash as Buckethead was.

who is the new guitar player?

 -look at blabbermouth, apparently that virtuoso guy who sux Joshua Craig audiotioned for guns.
i hope he doesnt get in hes just some crazy shredder prick. but yeah, they're still searching! late notice. but its possible, i mean gilby had 2 weeks to learn all the guns songs in the use ur illusion tour.

-if finck cant handle slashs solos he sucks and shouldnt be a proffesional guitarist.even i can manage most of them.  although he did handle sweet child o mine solo at rock in rio fine, but still. hes ugly

AND fast fact, SPEAKING of hillel slovak did u know buckethead auiditioned for the chili peppers? and they said know coz hes a FREAK. i wonder what he looks like.