Here Today... Gone To Hell!

 Yo!!

 I just created a petition on PetitonOnline.com to get GN'R to kick off their new U.S. tour in Philly.....for free!!!? ?:D
 
? Please go sign it as a loyal GN'R fan!!!? ?:yes:

? ? Thanks!!!!? :)

 http://www.PetitionOnline.com/gnrfree/petition.html

 If link does not work for some reason,just go to website and look up the key words.
? ?Thank you everyone!!!!!!!!

? ? ? GNR FOREVER!!

? ? ? ? ? ?MATT

I gotta appreciate the effort man, but it'll never happen.

 good luck with that ;)




.....kids

This is still business. It will never happen.

jesus christ, are people really still bitter about that fuckin' philly date??? :confused:

gn'r will be back in philly nest time they tour the us, but a free show yeah right...

plus, why the fuck should it be free, you got your money back right?

The GNR FANS in WASHINGTON, DC; GREENVILLE, SC; TAMPA, FL; WEST PLAM BEACH, FL; BILOXI, MS; HOUSTON, TX; DALLAS, TX; ALBUQUERQUE, NM; PHOENIX, AZ; SAN DIEGO, CA; LAS VEGAS, NV; SACRAMENTO, CA; SAN JOSE, CA; and INGLEWOOD, CA say GET OVER IT ALREADY!!! ?

count the rest of the world in too...

There is a slight difference between those shows and Philly, as those who attended the philly show had chairs hurled at them and spent a lot of money getting there parking and eating at the venue.

are you really serious man?

so technically Axl, or to be more presice, the gn'r organisation, owes you, five bucks for the union senter philly cheese sandwitch, three bucks for the parking, add another five for the gas if you live outside of philly plus a ten for the beers and you'll be golden... you got to be kidding...

Did anyone from GNR throw those chairs?

Had tickets to the GREENVILLE, SC show and never did get a refund .End up eating over a $100 bucks on that deal .And you don't see me whinning about getting a free show.

Can I ask why you never got a refund?? Was it the venue that didn't give it to you or didn't you ask for one?

what makes philly worse than vancouver?

Yep!  :yes:


Yep again.  ;D

It was the venue , Can't remeber all of the bull shit exscuss they gave me .Though one of them was that they show wasn't canncled.

Didn't we see an article about the writers friends came long way from Japan to see the philly show? 

There's always someone who does more.
There are many fans that are from far, paid more and have never complained about that.

I had tickets to the Phoenix show... i want a free show and backstage passes and hotel room.. pls sign my petition.

Sure it won't happen.

It would probably cause the biggest riot world has ever seen.

lol.. yeah can u imagine if there was a "free" show... they would riot even worse

It would be the whole world population in one place  :hihi:

It's "cheesesteak", not "cheese sandwitch" and anyone who orders one inside the stadium doesn't deserve getting that money for being so stupid. Just go to any local pizza shop for a killer one. Three bucks for parking?? Try $8.

I was at the show, Ticketmaster kept my the $3 service fee. I don't feel I deserve a 'free' show, although Rage against the Machine gave one here. When they were on Lollapalooza and just becoming big, they came out & stood naked the whole set because they were protesting someone on death row for killing a Philly cop (Please don't post anything regarding his 'innocence'). As for GnR, they might be back in philly, might not. They might have to play the Tweeter in Camden, holds about 7,000. I don't think they will sell out the big venue's, last tour only sold about 7,000 tix to a 20,000 hockey/basketball arena. Haha, It was a HUGE let down when 11:00 hit & no band. Man that fuckin sucked, Axl's such a duechebag... Why do I keep waiting for this stupid album.

Everyone always talks about how gnr should play a free show in philly, what about Vancouver?
I was at the Vancouver show and spent a lot of money getting there for travel, food, hotel etc., but I wouldn't want gnr to play a free show to make up for it. The reason is that if gnr played a free show a ton of people would show up just to boo Axl and cause trouble at the concert. These kinds of people would not be willing to pay 60 bucks to do that at a gnr show, but if it was free they would be more than willing to go to the concert just to try to piss Axl off. Free shows are never a good idea, and even more so when it comes to the gnr type of crowd.

I signed it. I think the fact that the opening bands played and then and hour and half went by after that before the venue announced that Guns wouldnt be there makes Philly worse.  Plus the fact that the Vancouver situation couldnt be helped, Axl didnt want to cancel that show. He was on his way there, and the promoters decided to cancel it.

Do you honestly think this will achieve anythink ? Really...

No, but what have we got to lose? Nothing!!!

I agree, it took me 20 seconds, why not sign it.. I was at the 02 show, and how great would it be if it got 10,000 votes.. or more. I know it won't but still. My guess is it'll get less than 100 but I did all I can do (aside from signing it multiple times, but that's not right). As for Vancouver, Wasn't that their first show of the tour. THAT IS Axl's fault. First tour in 10 years & he can't spend the night before in the city?? Especially since he's flying between countries, dealing with visa, passports etc. I don't wanna hear "OH, Axl was on his way." "His flight was late" blah blah blah, Axl blew it!!!

And in my case, I drove 4 hrs so it was more that $5 in gas.  I had a hotel and got a babysitter for 24hrs.  But, I don't care if there is a free show in Philly or not because I won't do that again.  :-\

yea if axl doesnt show up to the ny show im going to i will fucking go to one of the shows i know hes at go in there and kick his ass and get my money from axl himself.

Amen to that.

I love the new band and axl but if he fucking doesnt show to one of these concerts just because he didnt want to go then i will toast all the CDs and free some space up on my ipod.

FUCKIN A GO FOR IT DUDE !

thanks man, i knew it was something that had to do with philly and cheese lol. : ok:

i feel the need to sympathize? for the ones who got let down in philly tho. Please don't get me wrong here, i have been let down myself three or four times so i kind of know what you are talking about and i see how philly was one of the worst incidents, not to forget vancouver.

Isn't it a little extra cool tho to be able to wear the t-shirt that says "i survived union sentre" since thats actually what you did, I wear that shirt thinking of you who did he he. I'm mean to actually have been in a fuckin' gn'r riot is pretty cool, i know it's not cool, but it's still cool... I have always kind of looked up to you survivors kind of like when you look up to the "big kids" in grade school, with respect he he and honor ahhh. ;D

I don't see how any petition of any kind could make axl do jack shit other than what the fuck he self pleases and feels right about. i mean lol, an online petition? :rofl:

while we're on petitions, could someone tell me some stories about the top10 greatest online petitions? :beer:

Im in phoenix and and had tix and all i fucking want is for them to show up i dont care how much i have to pay.

Online petitions never work.

I went to the free concert the Rolling Stones played in Rio and it was awesome!! :yes:
But I really doubt GN'R would do that..... and seriously, a petition to have them there would work a lot more than a petition to have them there for free!
I'm going to the shows in Dublin and Paris and I live in Brazil..... that's a lot of money but it'll be worth it if they show up!!  :beer:

So why an online petition got to bring Pearl Jam to Brazil for the very first time last year?

Very true!! But still...... GN'R, in my opinion, is not that nice..... that's why we love them!  :yes:

GOOD FUCKING LUCK.  DO YOU THINK AXL CARES? OR CLEAR CHANNEL?

what about ohio cheif ?  ;)

What about Vancouver? Or St. Louis? They didn't finish the set in St. Louis in '91 was it?

Freebies for all!!  :no:

it`s a difference, if they actually get onstage for some songs, or if they just don`t show up i think......

and well....   just wait for the next north american tour and you`ll probably get your gnr concerts : ok:

And you'll also get your GnR no shows!! HAHAHA

a free shows just silly. i mean its not even a full tour, is just a couple of big festival dates a few one off shows like new york.

Though i spose we got half of chinese democ for free..maybe axl did that for making everyone wait so long  :hihi:

yeah, and in 2001 they canceled twice !
and also. i want a twix bar.

European tour 2001:

• June 1st N?rnberg, Germany @ Rock Im Park -> June 2nd, 2006: Eifel, Germany @ N?rburgring (Rock Am Ring)
• June 3rd Nurburg, Germany @ Rock Am Ring -> June 2nd, 2006: Eifel, Germany @ N?rburgring (Rock Am Ring)
• June 5th Berlin, Germany @ Waldbuhne -> June 2nd, 2006: Eifel, Germany @ N?rburgring (Rock Am Ring)
• June 9th London, England @ Docklands Arena -> Dec 13th London, England @ London Arena -> Aug 26th, 2002 - London, England @ Docklands Arena
• June 10th London, England @ Docklands Arena -> Dec 14th London, England @ London Arena -> Aug 26th, 2002 - London, England @ Docklands Arena
• June 12th Glascow, Scotland @ SECC -> Dec 16th Glasgow, Scotland @ SECC -> June 11th, 2006: Donington, UK @ Donington Park (Download Festival)
• June 13th Manchester, England @ Evening News Arena -> Dec 18th Manchester, England @ Evening News Arena -> Aug23rd, 2002 - Leeds, England @ Temple Newsam Park (Leeds Festival) AND June 11th, 2006: Donington, UK @ Donington Park (Download Festival)
• June 14th Birmingham, England @ NEC -> Dec 19th Birmingham, England @ NEC -> June 11th, 2006: Donington, UK @ Donington Park (Download Festival)
• June 17th Imola, Italy @ Heineken Jammin Fest -> June 4th, 2006: Milan, Italy @ Idroscalo (Gods of Metal Festival)
• June 19th Madrid, Spain @ Plaza De Toros De Las Ventas -> May 28th, 2006: Madrid, Spain @ Auditorio Parque Juan Carlos I
• June 20th Barcelona, Spain @ Palau Sant Jordi -> May 28th, 2006: Madrid, Spain @ Auditorio Parque Juan Carlos I
• June 23rd Arnhem, The Netherlands @ Gelredome Stadium -> Dec2nd Arnhem, The Netherlands @ Gelredome Stadium -> July 2nd, 2006: Nijmegen, The Netherlands @ Goffertpark
• June 25th Stockholm, Sweden @ Globen -> Dec 7th Stockholm, Sweden @ Globen -> June 26th, 2006: Stockholm, Sweden @ Globen
• June 26th Oslo, Norway @ Spektrum -> Dec 5th Oslo, Norway @ Spektrum -> June 28th & July 8th, 2006: Oslo, Norway @ Spektrum
• June 28th Roskilde, Denmark @ Roskilde Festival -> June 29th, 2006: Roskilde, Denmark @ (Roskilde Festival)
• June 30th Werchter, Belgium @ Werchter Festival -> Aug 24th, 2002 - Hasselt-Kiewit, Belgium AND June 24th, 2006: Dessel, Belgium (Graspop Metal Meeting)
• December 9th Helsinki, Finland @ Hartwall Areena -> July 5th & 6th, 2006: Helsinki, Finland @ Hartwall Areena
• May 30th 2004 - Lisbon, Portugal (Rock in Rio-Lisbon Festival) -> May 27th, 2006: Lisbon, Portugal @ Parque da Bela Vista
(Rock In Rio 2006)

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You'll get your show one day....



/jarmo

Yo, freek!!!? Where were you??? Even AXL showed up for the Ohio shows!!!

November 24th, 2002 - Cleveland, OH @ Gund Arena?
Setlist: Welcome To The Jungle, It's So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, Live And Let Die, Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Think About You, You Could Be Mine, Robin Solo, Sweet Child O' Mine, Madagascar, Out Ta Get Me, November Rain, Buckethead Solo, Rocket Queen, The Blues, My Michelle, Patience, Chinese Democracy, Nightrain
Encore: Robin Solo, Paradise City

Notes: Axl's in a very talkative mood tonight. He talks to a fan in the front row because he looked bummed out, turns out the fan was having a great time.
When introducing Richard, he told a story about Richard's first audition with the band. After it Richard flew back home and at the airport someone ran up to him and said "Hey Izzy, can I get your autograph?". Axl took that as a good omen and signed Richard.

Later on in the show Axl talked about singing in the church choir as a kid and how this was not quite what they expected him to end up doing.

Attendance: 9000?

Opening acts: CKY and Mix Master Mike
? ?
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November 25th, 2002 - Columbus, OH @ Nationwide Arena?
Setlist: Welcome To The Jungle, It's So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, Live And Let Die, Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Think About You, You Could Be Mine, Robin Solo, Sweet Child O' Mine, Out Ta Get Me, Madagascar, Axl Piano Solo, November Rain, Band Intro/Drum Solo, Buckethead Solo, Rocket Queen, The Blues, Chinese Democracy, Patience, Nightrain
Encore: Robin Solo, Paradise City
? ?
Notes: After Think About You Axl talks about the OSU riots of last weekend. Obviously in a very good mood, he tells us that when he saw the reports of the riots on TV, he checked his watch and thought he was late for the show or something ("What, am I late already?").
After Patience Axl asks the Security Guard to hand his microphone to a guy screaming for Nightrain. The guy yells out Nightrain, Axl gets the mic back and the band launches into the song.

Attendance: 6000

Opening acts: CKY and Mix Master Mike

Try again, my girlfriend, me and my best buddy spent over 100 bucks at that concert (not including the tickets / but including gas) that we won't get back.

I'm not bitter about the event (I kinda think it was cool now that I look back at it.. because EVERYONE remembers that date.. it's almost as famious as St. Louis or Montreal), but Axl owes us.  He doesn't owe us a free concert but he owes us something special once they finally return to the area.

 Okay.....thanks a fuckin' lot everyone.

 To the 9(!) other people who signed it,"Thank you!".
 
 A big fuck you to all the rest.

 Many people seemed to say "Yeah! Good luck,it'll never happen!"or "Online pettion never work."
?
 Well,with THAT attitude,how do YOU ever accomplish ANYTHING?!?!?!? What kind asshole mentality is THAT??? You sound like a fuckin' LOSER with that mindset.

 
 First off, FUCK Vancouver!!! I've never seen anyone from there take the fuckin' initiative and write out there own fuckin' Petition!!!!!!!!!!!!! Same goes for Montreal or St. Louis.
 
 Second, I AM still pissed off and wanted to TRY to do something about it,instead of just reliving it over and over.

 If YOU want something,YOU have to try for it!!!!!!! Like I'm fuckin' doing here!!!!!!!

 
 Ya know,I thought this was a GNR "Community". What a fuckin' joke that is. Seems like hundreds of little independent states,who won't help their fellow neighbor.

 Most of you people don't seem to give a fuck or simply won't bother,thinking it will fail,which in effect,it would,if YOU make it fail.
 
 If all of you assholes who said it wouldn't happen ,ACTUALLY signed the fuckin' thing,it'd over 50 strong by now!!!!!
 
 Don't you realize that:
? A) there is strength in numbers
? ? ?and that
? B) Axl and his Mgmt. DO read this fuckin' board to gauge fan reaction to EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!

? Look,
 I took the initiative and wrote it out. The LEAST you could do was fuckin' SIGN it.

 I mean,how hard would that be???

? ? Fuck you naysayers. Buncha Miserable bastards.

 Now,get off your ass and fuckin' SIGN IT!!

? ? With Love,

? ? ? ?MATT

I know what you mean.  I had 2 tickets for the Greenville show was well.  No refund. 

No, thank you!

It is quite amusing.. If you went to a true "community" website like craigslist you'd be mocked for even caring about Guns N Roses ("Who the heck cares about them"). But you come to a GnR site and you get "Fuck you, Axl doesn't owe you shit..."

Matt the real Fan, to quote Homer Simpson - "Lisa, you learned a very important lesson today.. You tried and failed. Lesson learned?? Never try." :hihi:

Well since you only got, what did you say 9 signings...I'd still send it to whoever you were going to send it to (what were you gonna do with it anyway McGuyver?)...that sends a stronger message than thousands of signatures...know what I mean? Think about it! LOL! Nothing ventured nothing gained dude...don't feel bad...

 Pasnow,thanks for the laugh but,did you sign it?!? ????

 And eat my dick DunkinDave. You fuckin' scumbag.
I have perfectly fine grammar,you pussy. Grow up and move out of your parents basement. That said,have a great day you bitch!! ? :D

 ? ? MATT

 ?
 

Yes, I'm #5.

lol

wow, 11 people signed ???

hey tough shit dude. when gn'r comes to philly in the fall you'll pay to see them just like everyone else who wants to go. when they come you still are bitching and want to take some sort of a stand...maybe you'll miss the show because of your "cause".  but if you pay like everyone else you'll probably get some sort of an apology out of axl and you should be happy with that. i will say that i would be pissed to but there have been many cancelations by this band over the years. that along with the riots are unfortunately part of the gn'r package. i admire your spunk but give it up kid. 

though i will point out that the band has said that they plan on doing something special for philly as an apology because "we owe them".

im not sure if that is really going to pan out, but as long as they acknowledged the fuck up, im cool with it for now.

a free show? that is going overboard. maybe pulling out a couple tracks they dont normally play, or trying that hat trick again by scheduling a show the next night at the spectrum and making the tickets super cheap. but a free show is a huge stretch there.

You know it's funny you mention that.. I now remember they were handing out "coupons"(basically small flyers) for a 2nd show at the smaller Spectrum that Sunday night. Maybe I'm mistaken, but does anyone else recall this?? They seemed kindof halfassed, almost a last second effort to prevent a major riot so fans would think "Oh, I'll just goto Sunday's show"

no, it was done to help promote the spetrum gig, which was added last minute as an attempt to get into the guiness book of world records for having two sold out shows two nights in a row with the least distance between venues.

or something to that effect. i have the idea right, but the wording a little wrong.

 I've been wracking my brain today,trying to come up with any kind of plausible reason,as to WHY the FUCK any of you WON'T sign this fuckin' Petition!!
 
 ? ?http://www.PetitionOnline.com/gnrfree/petition.html

 I think I've figured it out but,they really aren't justifiable. It's a 2 part answer,I believe:

 ?1) You don't wanna see any other city that ISN'T YOUR'S have even the slightest chance of being even remotely considered a possibility of having a free show. This is just lame.

 ?2) You have become (no pun intended)....disillusioned with Axl and this band. You have lost the faith.
 ? ? After so MANY failed appearances,cancelled shows,rumors that never materialized,etc.etc,etc.....you have become like an animal that has been beaten down again and again and now snaps at anything in site.
 You are barely hanging on and now don't want anything but ?show and an album in hand. You say "Fuck You" to everything else.

 Are you blind now,after so much of the bullshit?? Has it really ruined you???

 Yeah,we all want the album man but,to shoot down something without even TRYING....that is just fuckin' SAD. ?:no: ?I STILL believe in this band and in him.
 
 ?Yes,it seems like I am calling into question your status as a "fan". ?
If you are really a "fan",you would support this ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. Period.
 
 ?I would do the same for you. ?I would!! ?:yes:

-> A Pre-emptive FUCK YOU to those who will degrade themselves by name-calling and sinking to the lowest common demoninator. ?Grow the fuck up. <-

 ?Stand up for a change and sign this!!! Don't be jealous or tired,sign it and things could come to fruition!!
 Do you know what will happen by not signing? Nothing. Nothing will happen. ?So why not at least TRY?!?
 ?

 ?http://www.PetitionOnline.com/gnrfree/petition.html


 ? I will NOT give up!! Have YOU given up already???

 ?
 ? ? ? ? Still Faithful,

 ? ? ? ? ? ? MATT

Listen buddy, nobody's obligated to sign your poorly worded petition.

If there's a North American tour this fall (as rumored) then there will probably be a show in Philadelphia.

But just because the idiots in your city decided to riot when the band didn't show up doesn't entitle them to a free concert.

That's like if you invited your grandmother to dinner, she didn't show up, you burned the house down, and then later demanded 4 years later that she come and pay for the damage.

If you were a "real fan" then you would stop acting like a 10-year old and stop wasting our time.

Matt, I'm with you! When we really want something, we have to fight for it!

But I didn't sign that petition...here's why: I think that a FREE SHOW in Philly is a little too much to ask! I meant, if philly were the only place that GN'R didn't show up, then ok, but there was SEVERAL dates cancelled!! So if they do a free concert in philly, then they will need to do free concerts in Vancouver, Washington, Greenville, Tampa, West Palm Beach, Lisbon...otherwise it wouldn't be fair with these other cities where GN'R didn't performed!

But anyway, I think it's really good that you want to make things right or whatever, I really admire that, but I just don't agree with the idea of a free philly concert because of that...so, good luck man! : ok:

enough said. really.........i'm sick of this guy.

Yeah, please..seriously, if this guy doesn't stop complaining, ban him please.

I was at the show too, but do you see me here ranting that I deserve a free show? Do you see me bitching because I spent $105 on three t-shirts, and about $150 for a hotel room? Shut up, get over it, and go to one of the New York shows, or as others have pointed out, its almost a guarantee that they'll play Philly or somewhere in the vicinity (Wilkes-Barre, perhaps) when they come back in the fall. You've waited four years, so I'd seriously hope you can wait a few more months.

I, on the other hand, plan on wearing my "I SURVIVED PHILADELPHIA" shirt to the NYC gig!  : ok:

Not to burst your bubble - but this thread has 63 responses right now and the petition has 20 signatures.

Valliant effort - but people aren't really feeling too bad right now for the folks in Philly

I was at the show and I don't feel bad for Philly!  : ok:

I do feel bad for the fans in Philly and I would love for you people to get a free show. I was going to sign your petition, but I changed my mind. See, the way you try to insult people and calling them selfish etc just rubs me the wrong way. It makes me feel as I'm being bullied into signing something and I don't like that. This board is a GNR board and well..... GNR fans just don't like being told what to do, do we?

Besides, do you think the real fans would like a free show anyway? Loads of people would show up (we all like freebies) and the real fans would probably be very annoyed with the other people attending the show. I think a nice reduction would be better, or a nice free T-shirt at a paid show.

oh, what the hell, I signed it! But trust me, it wont work!

...right...

I just think it's stupid. That's all.

?
? ?Thanks for the support ?( I think it was somewhere in there) but,those other cities didn't even come close to having a show. And Vancouver was the arena owner's fault. He canceled it prematurely.


 
 I never said I wouldn't ever pay to see them again either. I just wanna see if I can pull this off.? If you're with me,Great!? : ok:?? If not,so be it.

 But,I'm not gonna just wilt and go home cryin',because some people who I don't know and don't care about me or my idea,decide to trash it from here to Kingdom Come!!
 
? I don't give up easy.

? ? ? ? ? MATT
 

Well, it's a valiant effort, & I give you mad props for hanging in there amongst all the bashing. I do disagree with you & other posted on Vancouver. Wasn't that the 1st show of the tour, & Axl was "on the plane"?? What bonehead would fly into the city hours before his first concert in nearly 10 years???

That's right, Axl.? I place the solely on Axl on that one. Unless, of course, I get drilled by angry Axl fans stating it's the airlines fault for running late, right?!!

  MATT:
 Yeah,and I'm one of those who doesn't like being told what to do too. So,NO,I won't give this up yet. I don't care what anyone says or does. Sign it or don't. I'm not done yet. And I never used the word "selfish". Ever.

 And YES,any "real" fan would take show any way they could get one,especially a FREE one!

 And really,what non-fan would go near something like that anyway?!? Metallica's free show didn't bring out the soccer moms or business suits to see what all the clamor was about!!! Gimme a break.






Hey Matt, guess we sort of misunderstood each other. Check your PM.

Yea I think i remember MTV mentioning something about that.

This thread isn't dead yet?

you know, there IS a "space" button on the keyboard MATT

Oh really? "Ticketmaster retains the order processing fee, and any delivery charges associated with an order. These fees are non-refundable and cover various costs that Ticketmaster incurred as a result of this transaction."


Yeah like people really got their money back.    ::) 

What about Vancouver?  If Philly gets a free show Vancouver gets one too. Hell make the whole tour free :rofl: