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Title: Alan Niven Speaks again
Post by: babydolls on April 13, 2006, 07:55:39 AM
http://www.metalsludge.tv/home/index.php?o...=1222&Itemid=42

Ex. Guns n' Roses manager Alan Niven speaks out through Metal Sludge again.


In response to doubters, cynics and jaundiced web white noise, yes, I did indeed author the statement concerning Scott Whyslam and his remarks about Mr Axl Rose.

The primary motive was to counter an ignorant and rude diatribe; no one ought belittle Guns n' Roses achievements or disparage their place in rock n'roll -number one is number one and 16,000,000 debut sales remain unmatched.

A secondary motive was to point out the obvious - time is now - and who wouldn't get off the Internet to see a reunion?

Concerning room chattering;

1. I am a vegetarian and consequently I am unqualified to be placed at McDonalds.

2. I write in caps because my eyes are full. I have seen nothing much more than a thieving world consuming its own children. Have we done nothing more than teach cannibals the use of cutlery? Is that all thats been learnt?

There is a higher ground, y'know, where the journey is the destination. And no one gets a free ride.

So my darling little webrats, try to think before you blab or blog.

Try to Imagine - love love and only love.

Alan Niven


We thank Alan for his input once again.

Metal Sludge
Use Sludge Illusion III

I for one am tired of Alan Niven's "input" - it only gives more fuel to the fire.  let them sort it out themselves - I don't think Axl needs you to be his monkey-boy. Back at you "webrat" 


Title: Re: Alan Niven Speaks again
Post by: Slashead on April 13, 2006, 08:10:24 AM
No, Niven is alright.

Everything he said makes sense.


Title: Re: Alan Niven Speaks again
Post by: mikegiuliana on April 13, 2006, 08:36:51 AM
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Scott Whyslam

why does he constantly knock weiland, I mean he sounds like a baby if that's him saying things each time.. Has scott ever done anything to him personally we don't know about?


Title: Re: Alan Niven Speaks again
Post by: madagas on April 13, 2006, 08:41:50 AM
He is only questioning why Weiland lashed out at Axl...Weiland did sound like a complete idiot. Compare Weiland's response to Duff's and even Slash's....oh wait, Slash didn't respond! Axl's comments were directed at Slash and were meant to discredit Slash....not at Weiland. Axl never said Scott was a fraud-he alleges Slash said it. Niven has been doing a few too many drugs though! ;D ps I am not backing Axl here, he should have never said those things in the press release.


Title: Re: Alan Niven Speaks again
Post by: Lord Kayoss on April 13, 2006, 09:02:53 AM
he (Axl) should have never said those things (about Duff, Matt, & Weiland) in the press release.


No one has disproven his claim.


Title: Re: Alan Niven Speaks again
Post by: mikegiuliana on April 13, 2006, 09:04:22 AM
I understand scott sounded stupid but what if scott asked slash and he said axl made this shit up, then axl would have been talking shit about scott.. I still don't know why niven cares.. If he thought scott's comments were childish then fine but he shouldn't hav esaid anything either


Title: Re: Alan Niven Speaks again
Post by: oldgunsfan on April 13, 2006, 09:10:58 AM
I don't understand why people care so much what this guy thinks, but I guess everybody's entitled to an opinion.....but he keeps bringing AFD into the conversation as Axl's claim to fame....

Here's a note to Allen "The people who worked with Axl are no longer in the band.  You can't compare AFD to an album that has been spoken and written about for years yet never heard.  And to say it'll be better is just asinine."

Go away.  You're fired again. :yes:


Title: Re: Alan Niven Speaks again
Post by: WARose on April 13, 2006, 10:55:35 AM
I don't understand why people care so much what this guy thinks, but I guess everybody's entitled to an opinion.....but he keeps bringing AFD into the conversation as Axl's claim to fame....

Here's a note to Allen "The people who worked with Axl are no longer in the band.  You can't compare AFD to an album that has been spoken and written about for years yet never heard.  And to say it'll be better is just asinine."

Go away.  You're fired again. :yes:

in regards of afd, niven probably knows better than you dude. considering that fact, he also knows better about axl`s contributions to that record than you.... : ok:


Title: Re: Alan Niven Speaks again
Post by: GeorgeSteele on April 13, 2006, 11:05:39 AM
I understand scott sounded stupid but what if scott asked slash and he said axl made this shit up, then axl would have been talking shit about scott.. I still don't know why niven cares.. If he thought scott's comments were childish then fine but he shouldn't hav esaid anything either

I would be surprised if Slash and Scott discussed Axl's comments at all, only because the one thing that struck me about Scott's response was that he came to Duff's defense ("how dare you call our bass player spineless") but was silent about Slash.  Why no "how dare you falsely attribute your comments to Slash" or something like that.


Title: Re: Alan Niven Speaks again
Post by: babydolls on April 13, 2006, 11:12:13 AM
anyone is welcome to have an opinion on the recent statements and to air it - it's just that the way Niven phrases things is very patronising to read. ?Think before you blog?? ?Pisses me right off. ?and as for no-one getting a free ride?? Well - stop trying exactly that Alan!
Sure Scott sounded a little childish in his attack - but that's just it, he was verbally attacked, he was named in the statement and reacted accordingly. ?It's just not necessary for Niven to act in a position of authority here. ?I would take the opinions and thoughts from most posters on this board before Niven after this latest offering.

am right with you classicgunsfan ? : ok:


Title: Re: Alan Niven Speaks again
Post by: mikegiuliana on April 13, 2006, 11:42:06 AM
I understand scott sounded stupid but what if scott asked slash and he said axl made this shit up, then axl would have been talking shit about scott.. I still don't know why niven cares.. If he thought scott's comments were childish then fine but he shouldn't hav esaid anything either

I would be surprised if Slash and Scott discussed Axl's comments at all, only because the one thing that struck me about Scott's response was that he came to Duff's defense ("how dare you call our bass player spineless") but was silent about Slash.? Why no "how dare you falsely attribute your comments to Slash" or something like that.

that could be very true, as I have said I'm still yet to know anything really happened.. It is possible he spoke to slash but is best friends with duff and decided to speak up for him.. I'm sure it was rage not some well thought out rant..


Title: Re: Alan Niven Speaks again
Post by: jabba2 on April 13, 2006, 11:53:24 AM
The way Alan regularly bashes Scott in his statements maybe hes trying to get back with GNR again. He still hasnt defended Slash and Duff even though he says he loves the old band and AFD.


Title: Re: Alan Niven Speaks again
Post by: jameslofton29 on April 13, 2006, 12:02:23 PM
he (Axl) should have never said those things (about Duff, Matt, & Weiland) in the press release.


No one has disproven his claim.
Who proved his claim?


Title: Re: Alan Niven Speaks again
Post by: oldgunsfan on April 13, 2006, 04:08:14 PM
I don't understand why people care so much what this guy thinks, but I guess everybody's entitled to an opinion.....but he keeps bringing AFD into the conversation as Axl's claim to fame....

Here's a note to Allen "The people who worked with Axl are no longer in the band.? You can't compare AFD to an album that has been spoken and written about for years yet never heard.? And to say it'll be better is just asinine."

Go away.? You're fired again. :yes:

in regards of afd, niven probably knows better than you dude. considering that fact, he also knows better about axl`s contributions to that record than you.... : ok:

In both statements, niven said something about Axl being the driving force behind AFD and it was the biggest selling rock debut  album of all time......

the point is.....

that was almost 20 years ago w/ a whole other band.....and didn't he get fired :yes: