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Title: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 11, 2006, 10:11:33 PM
this is such a sad day, one of eminem's best friends and fellow rapper in the group d12 was murdered earlier today, shot in the head at a detroit night club. proof was a very talented rapper and a great person who had plans to start an organization for helping children with the money he was making. he was only 32 years old, and he leaves behind 5 young children and a wife. i hope you will keep his family and friends in your prayers. rest in peace, deshaun holton. :no:


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: journey on April 12, 2006, 01:12:42 AM
That is sad.

Rest In Peace, Proof.


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Eazy E on April 12, 2006, 02:02:48 AM
I didn't believe it when I read it this morning.  That's crazy... Just over 3 months after Obie Trice got shot as well (non-fatal).  I'm suprised actually that Eminem's crew would be targets for violence like this.  Of course, I was just as shocked that someone would gun down Jam Master Jay.

Proof always seemed like the most talented rapper in D12, it's a shame this had to happen.


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Izzy on April 12, 2006, 06:04:47 AM
What was he involved in I wonder......


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Mandy. on April 12, 2006, 06:09:46 AM
and he leaves behind 5 young children and a wife.

That's really sad.

Rest in peace.


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 12, 2006, 03:19:43 PM
I didn't believe it when I read it this morning.? That's crazy... Just over 3 months after Obie Trice got shot as well (non-fatal).? I'm suprised actually that Eminem's crew would be targets for violence like this.? Of course, I was just as shocked that someone would gun down Jam Master Jay.

Proof always seemed like the most talented rapper in D12, it's a shame this had to happen.
he really was one of the most talented rappers i've heard from that area, his skills were up to par with the best. terrible loss both for his family, friends and the hip hop community as a whole. rest in peace.


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Neemo on April 12, 2006, 03:22:46 PM
i saw this earlier too.

really shitty news. RIP proof :'(


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 12, 2006, 08:23:09 PM
i saw this earlier too.

really shitty news. RIP proof :'(

yeah... the last i heard was the other guy who got shot is in critical condition... i just wish all of this wasn't true, one of the finest rappers to come out of detroit and a family father is gone forever. so sad :'(


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: MR W,AXL ROSE on April 12, 2006, 08:48:15 PM
wow,shocking  :'( :'(.R.I.P brother


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 13, 2006, 10:07:26 AM
*bump*


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Neemo on April 13, 2006, 10:19:57 AM
any word on the identity of the second victim?


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 13, 2006, 10:23:49 AM
yes. this is taken from allhiphop.com:

Proof was shot and killed around 4:30 am on April 11 and the bouncer was seriously wounded, both with gunshots to the head.
Police are still releasing details in the shooting and have identified the second man as 35-year-old Keith Bender. Bender is alive, but is still in critical condition.


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Neemo on April 13, 2006, 10:28:44 AM
thanks man....


such shitty news. wonder if Eminem will make a statement?


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 13, 2006, 10:50:11 AM
he hasn't yet, apperantly the only thing he has stated is that he will continue with recording out of respect for proof. he was seen leaving the hospital in tears, that's all i know.


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Eazy E on April 13, 2006, 12:39:53 PM
I just read in another article that Proof was the one who shot the person that is in critical condition, and that he was the one who shot first.  They also said it might be a difficult scene to investigate because the club was open after-hours and everyone was gone by the time the police showed up.


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: the dirt on April 13, 2006, 12:57:44 PM
They also said it might be a difficult scene to investigate because the club was open after-hours and everyone was gone by the time the police showed up.

"Stop Snitching"...


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Walk on April 13, 2006, 03:43:23 PM
Rap stars involved in gang violence!? Who would have guessed!


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Izzy on April 13, 2006, 04:39:46 PM
Rap stars involved in gang violence!? Who would have guessed!

That old saying 'he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword' springs to mind....

Bet he aint bragging about his guns, hoes and drugs now!


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 13, 2006, 05:07:51 PM
Rap stars involved in gang violence!? Who would have guessed!

That old saying 'he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword' springs to mind....

Bet he aint bragging about his guns, hoes and drugs now!

you should be embarrased of your ignorant self.


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 13, 2006, 09:38:44 PM
I just read in another article that Proof was the one who shot the person that is in critical condition, and that he was the one who shot first.? They also said it might be a difficult scene to investigate because the club was open after-hours and everyone was gone by the time the police showed up.

witnesses say that the bouncer started a fight with proof and pulled a gun on him and then proof defended himself and shot the bouncer, after which the bouncer's cousin shot proof twice in the chest and three times in the head. this is murder, an excecution of a wounded man, and if this guy walks from this it just proves once again how racist the police in the US are, especially since they already hinted that proof shot the guy in cold blood, which doesn't make sense at all.


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 14, 2006, 01:07:40 PM
*bumping* for people to show some love for proof


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: ClintroN on April 15, 2006, 06:39:16 PM
Rap stars involved in gang violence!? Who would have guessed!

That old saying 'he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword' springs to mind....

Bet he aint bragging about his guns, hoes and drugs now!

thats right dude, yeah its sad, but nicely said!!! :beer:

let me guess, was it south central!!??


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: the dirt on April 15, 2006, 08:32:08 PM
Rap stars involved in gang violence!? Who would have guessed!

That old saying 'he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword' springs to mind....

Bet he aint bragging about his guns, hoes and drugs now!

thats right dude, yeah its sad, but nicely said!!! :beer:

let me guess, was it south central!!??

It was in Detroit, one of the armpits of America.


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 15, 2006, 08:42:58 PM
i'm embarrased that gnr fans can be this ignorant to the struggles of the street.
go find another fucking band, like n'sync. you are not worthy of being gnr fans.
fucking snobs, you disguist me.


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: badapple81 on April 15, 2006, 09:34:11 PM
I think it's a valid question.. what was he involved in to be a murder target.. ?


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: alexh0618 on April 15, 2006, 09:57:48 PM
It was in Detroit, one of the armpits of America.
Quote

HAHAHA! Even though I live very close to Detroit. Nicely said.

What I wanna know is why was Proof in a club in Dirtoit that late.


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Gunner80 on April 15, 2006, 11:49:18 PM
Things like this happen when you're a thug period!


P.S I don't mean this in a damning way. :peace:


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Eazy E on April 16, 2006, 01:24:54 AM
Now for the weirdest thing about this incident:

The song "Like Toy Soldiers" by Eminem is about how he doesn't want rap battles and music to escalate to the point where people are killed or violence is resorted to.  In the video for the song it shows someone in the hospital that has been killed... and the person lying in the hospital bed, with Eminem looking on in disbelief, is none other than Proof.  :o


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 16, 2006, 12:14:43 PM
Now for the weirdest thing about this incident:

The song "Like Toy Soldiers" by Eminem is about how he doesn't want rap battles and music to escalate to the point where people are killed or violence is resorted to.? In the video for the song it shows someone in the hospital that has been killed... and the person lying in the hospital bed, with Eminem looking on in disbelief, is none other than Proof.? :o

i know, very strange ideed... fate can be so ironic. :no:


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on April 16, 2006, 12:50:29 PM
Have there been Eminem's statements about it?


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 16, 2006, 01:09:47 PM
yes, a couple of days ago he stated the following:

"You don't know where to begin when you lose somebody who's such a big part life for of your so long. Proof and I were brothers. He pushed me to become who I am. Without Proof's guidance and encouragement there would have been a Marshall Mathers, but probably not an Eminem and certainly never a Slim Shady. Not a day will go by without his spirit and influence around us all. He will be missed as a friend, father and both the heart and ambassador of Detroit hip-hop.

Right now, there's a lot of people focusing on the way he died. I want to remember the way he lived. Proof was funny, he was smart, he was charming. He inspired everyone around him. He can never, ever be replaced. He was, and always will be, my best friend."

-EMINEM


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on April 16, 2006, 01:44:52 PM
Orale, interesting statement, thanks for posting it Speed


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 16, 2006, 02:51:22 PM
no problem man.


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: MadmanDan on April 16, 2006, 07:08:30 PM
Rap stars involved in gang violence!? Who would have guessed!

That old saying 'he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword' springs to mind....

Bet he aint bragging about his guns, hoes and drugs now!

you should be embarrased of your ignorant self.


Why should he? He's not an innocent victim! I'm not happy a man has died, but to turn a stupid thug into a martir is totally wrong.



Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 16, 2006, 07:54:44 PM
i'm not, but showing respect is something you should fucking do.


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 16, 2006, 10:46:20 PM
and who are you calling a stupid thug, you don't know anything about the man you are judging so just shut your ignorant ass up, i don't want people like you in this thread


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Queen of Everything on April 16, 2006, 11:21:58 PM
Rap stars involved in gang violence!? Who would have guessed!

That old saying 'he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword' springs to mind....

Bet he aint bragging about his guns, hoes and drugs now!

you should be embarrased of your ignorant self.


Why should he? He's not an innocent victim! I'm not happy a man has died, but to turn a stupid thug into a martir is totally wrong.



I just think he means you should have a little respect for the dead... at least dont make jokes for another week?! 

I dont like rappers either, I have no respect for their work... no musical integridy


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 16, 2006, 11:35:20 PM
Rap stars involved in gang violence!? Who would have guessed!

That old saying 'he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword' springs to mind....

Bet he aint bragging about his guns, hoes and drugs now!

you should be embarrased of your ignorant self.


Why should he? He's not an innocent victim! I'm not happy a man has died, but to turn a stupid thug into a martir is totally wrong.



I just think he means you should have a little respect for the dead... at least dont make jokes for another week?!?

I dont like rappers either, I have no respect for their work... no musical integridy

thanx for the support but how can you say something like that? that's a MAJOR generalization, if you knew anything about rap, then you'd know that good and structured rap music is an art form.


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Queen of Everything on April 16, 2006, 11:38:58 PM
I just think he means you should have a little respect for the dead... at least dont make jokes for another week?!?

I dont like rappers either, I have no respect for their work... no musical integridy

thanx for the support but how can you say something like that? that's a MAJOR generalization, if you knew anything about rap, then you'd know that good and structured rap music is an art form.

Its called an opinion.  I have one, you have one.  I protected yours back there... now you accept mine and shush.


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: ClintroN on April 17, 2006, 06:00:00 AM
i'm embarrased that gnr fans can be this ignorant to the struggles of the street.
go find another fucking band, like n'sync. you are not worthy of being gnr fans.
fucking snobs, you disguist me.

oh piss off will ya!!!

if Axl OD'd, id call him everythin' under the sun even though he's my hero, if Proof wanted that lifestyle then thats his thing,!!

THE STRUGGLE OF THE STREETS ::) ::) ::) ::)  GIMME A FUCKIN' BREAK!!
this guy had money n' he chose the streets, no smp here dude, have ya cry!!


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Izzy on April 17, 2006, 06:11:59 AM
i'm not, but showing respect is something you should fucking do.

Love it, someone who insults others views in every posts talks about respect ::)

Our rapper friend here deliberate associated with nefarious elements, took drugs and provoked others needlessly

The point is  - He KNEW the risk of his choosen lifestyle

He was an idiot, who thought he was invincible, that he could play the game and win - he got what was coming his way


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 17, 2006, 11:24:21 AM
i'm not, but showing respect is something you should fucking do.

Love it, someone who insults others views in every posts talks about respect ::)

Our rapper friend here deliberate associated with nefarious elements, took drugs and provoked others needlessly

The point is? - He KNEW the risk of his choosen lifestyle

He was an idiot, who thought he was invincible, that he could play the game and win - he got what was coming his way

so he got what he deserved?!
you're a fucking idiot


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: the dirt on April 17, 2006, 02:07:00 PM
Our rapper friend here deliberate associated with nefarious elements, took drugs and provoked others needlessly

Your friend.. :hihi:


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Queen of Everything on April 17, 2006, 06:25:05 PM
i'm not, but showing respect is something you should fucking do.

Love it, someone who insults others views in every posts talks about respect ::)

Our rapper friend here deliberate associated with nefarious elements, took drugs and provoked others needlessly

The point is? - He KNEW the risk of his choosen lifestyle

He was an idiot, who thought he was invincible, that he could play the game and win - he got what was coming his way

so he got what he deserved?!
you're a fucking idiot

Oh, please shush!!  Its funny that like 20 people have said that EXACT thing, but you are still Shocked?! (?!)  ::)


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 17, 2006, 10:52:39 PM
shut the fuck up you idiots and show some respect! a man is dead! >:(


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: ClintroN on April 18, 2006, 01:23:45 AM
shut the fuck up you idiots and show some respect! a man is dead! >:(

alot of people r' dead arsehole >:( >:( >:(   , i'll repect the ones i give a damn about!!

SHUT UP!!!

or i'll pop a cap in your arse!!



Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Queen of Everything on April 18, 2006, 01:51:14 AM
shut the fuck up you idiots and show some respect! a man is dead! >:(

Quiet Fool!!!!!!


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Sakib on April 18, 2006, 05:56:37 AM
now thats unfair


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: damien24 on April 18, 2006, 07:06:44 AM
burn in hell Proof? you got what you deserved.
you made you name telling children it was cool to shoot guns and take drugs-? the world will be more with you gone.

he also did'nt even have the talent to make it on his own-  he needed eminem to pull him out of the gutter-  you really think this guy had a chance in hell of him doing anything with his career without em's help>   

i do feel bad for eminem tho-? he just got Married/Divorced again-? then his best friend dies... 



Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Queen of Everything on April 18, 2006, 07:22:46 AM
now thats unfair
What is??


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 18, 2006, 08:59:35 AM
burn in hell Proof? you got what you deserved.
you made you name telling children it was cool to shoot guns and take drugs-? the world will be more with you gone.

he also did'nt even have the talent to make it on his own-? he needed eminem to pull him out of the gutter-? you really think this guy had a chance in hell of him doing anything with his career without em's help>? ?

i do feel bad for eminem tho-? he just got Married/Divorced again-? then his best friend dies...?



i hope you die in a car accident.


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: Queen of Everything on April 18, 2006, 09:05:27 AM
burn in hell Proof? you got what you deserved.
you made you name telling children it was cool to shoot guns and take drugs-? the world will be more with you gone.

he also did'nt even have the talent to make it on his own-? he needed eminem to pull him out of the gutter-? you really think this guy had a chance in hell of him doing anything with his career without em's help>? ?

i do feel bad for eminem tho-? he just got Married/Divorced again-? then his best friend dies...?



i hope you die in a car accident.

shut the fuck up you idiots and show some respect! a man is dead! >:(

Quiet Fool!!!!!!


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: SuperMike on April 19, 2006, 11:11:26 PM
Even though I'm not really into hip-hop/rap,my sympathy still goes out to Proof's family and friends. RIP


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 20, 2006, 12:00:02 AM
Even though I'm not really into hip-hop/rap,my sympathy still goes out to Proof's family and friends. RIP

that's decent of you, man.
this is the type of post this thread was intended for.
haters, stay the hell out, this isn't the place or time.


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: damien24 on April 20, 2006, 01:28:58 AM
this is a discussion about weather Proof of D12 should rest in peace or not.

i say no-  for reasons i stated above-  this guy pulled a gun and shot someone in the face-  If Axl Rose, Donald Trump, or the President did the same thing then they got what they deserve as well.    also he's a hanger-on,   famous by association.   


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 20, 2006, 01:37:20 AM
this is a discussion about weather Proof of D12 should rest in peace or not.

i say no-? for reasons i stated above-? this guy pulled a gun and shot someone in the face-? If Axl Rose, Donald Trump, or the President did the same thing then they got what they deserve as well.? ? also he's a hanger-on,? ?famous by association.? ?

i'm gonna ask that this thread is deleted now, your idiotic ignorance has ruined its good intentions. and FYI, proof was a celebrity in his own right in detroit, he created a big name for himself. but of course, you wouldn't know, you're just another "hanger-on".


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: D on April 20, 2006, 08:37:22 AM
Izzy is dead on.

What about the guy Proof killed first? What about his family and loved ones? What cause he isnt famous his life doesnt mean anything?


Proof wrote his own ticket to hell by being a bitch and shooting someone first.

He got what he deserved.


Title: Re: Rest In Peace Proof of D12
Post by: speed_stone on April 20, 2006, 10:15:02 AM
Izzy is dead on.

What about the guy Proof killed first? What about his family and loved ones? What cause he isnt famous his life doesnt mean anything?


Proof wrote his own ticket to hell by being a bitch and shooting someone first.

He got what he deserved.

i hope you fucking get what you deserve too for saying that.
delete this now, sadly people have ruined a dedication topic for a recently deceased man with heartless comments and ignorance.
i'm disguisted.