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Title: Can we assume that Axls listed favs are the 'Big Guns'?
Post by: jimmythegent on April 10, 2006, 05:38:35 AM
In the RS interview in January, Axl listed Better, The Blues and TWAT as his favourites.
Can we now assume that these are the rumoured 'Big Guns'?

If so, I'm a tad worried. Don't get me wrong, I think those 3 songs are great.

-TWAT has amazing potential but needs a major reworking. Add some orchestration, ditch the electronica, sort out the structure (especially the outro which is a mess) and you've got a great song.

- The Blues, as has been stated countless times, is a classic in waiting. The arrangment and parts sound completed, we have a gorgeous melody and some nice guitar flourishes. A real heartfelt, yet precise Axl epic. All it needs is a polished studio vocal performance. Of all the songs, to me this is the only one that I would consider a 'big gun'.

- Better worries me a little. Great rockin song, but again, too much dated electronica. It sounds like something from the nu-metal era.

Surely Axl has some bigger guns up his sleeve? But yet he states these 3 are his favs. Was it a throwaway comment and these were the 3 that came to mind on the spur of the moment? When IRS leaked last year, I believe there was a statement made to the effect that it wasn't considered to be in the top 10.

It just seems a little odd to me that Axl mentions these 3 songs that we've all now heard. Taste is subjective, but this 'earth shattering' sound has yet to emerge in what we've heard thus far IMO


Title: Re: Can we assume that Axls listed favs are the 'Big Guns'?
Post by: whiny on April 10, 2006, 05:52:23 AM
in the rolling stone article it is written that "among" his favs are better, twat and blues!

besides: i really do think that better is an amazing song with the potential of an all time classic  (hope that more melodies like that inside of axl "search for solution"!)


Title: Re: Can we assume that Axls listed favs are the 'Big Guns'?
Post by: jameslofton29 on April 10, 2006, 05:53:02 AM
Yeah, I think those are the Big Guns, but surely there could be more. But like you said, these are not 'earth shattering' in any way, shape, or form. Some of these songs are incredible, but they sure as hell dont shatter planets. In my opinion, anyone that doesn't like these new songs isn't going to like the album.

 Like you said, we've already heard Axl's 3 favorite songs. If he had a 'Kashmir' or something similar in the vault, surely it would rank up there with those 3 songs. But maybe the final versions of those songs are earth shattering. The Blues and CITR definitely have that potential.

This is why the album should not have been hyped for so many years. It created unrealistic expectations. The positive thing to come out of these leaks is that it brought the expectations down to a realistic level.


Title: Re: Can we assume that Axls listed favs are the 'Big Guns'?
Post by: Lucky on April 10, 2006, 06:10:15 AM
its sad but true.
and if the rest of the songs are so earthshattering, why would it take them so long to put out the album.

a great song is a great song, no matter how studio tweeked it is


Title: Re: Can we assume that Axls listed favs are the 'Big Guns'?
Post by: tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr on April 10, 2006, 06:16:31 AM
You guys hyped it up yourselves. I come on here as much as the next guy for over 4 years now, and I still think that these new songs are fantastic. They are what I have been waiting for. They are better than anything else that I have heard in I dont know how many years. You guys just got this ridiculous impression that this was gonna change the fucking world. Its music man. Its all about taste. I have not been disappointed at all. If anything, its just making me anticipate the album even more, can't wait to have this thing in my hands.


Title: Re: Can we assume that Axls listed favs are the 'Big Guns'?
Post by: whiny on April 10, 2006, 06:29:05 AM
i assume that axl didn't want to mention too many song titles that we did'nt know... and/or the interviewer selected those song titles which were well known among gnr fans and rs journalist (blues / twat were alreadfy mentioned in rs in 99 or 00);

besides, on the tour 02 axl did not regard "blues" as a big gun ("still holding big guns back").


Title: Re: Can we assume that Axls listed favs are the 'Big Guns'?
Post by: The Dog on April 10, 2006, 06:52:05 AM
No offense, but hasn't this topic, or ones similar to it, been talked to death already?

We need some new news.


Title: Re: Can we assume that Axls listed favs are the 'Big Guns'?
Post by: jimmythegent on April 10, 2006, 07:07:39 AM
No offense, but hasn't this topic, or ones similar to it, been talked to death already?

We need some new news.

not specifically, no I dont believe theres been a thread that asks the question if Axls favs were the big guns - no


Title: Re: Can we assume that Axls listed favs are the 'Big Guns'?
Post by: jameslofton29 on April 10, 2006, 07:11:56 AM
You guys hyped it up yourselves.
Wrong. Axl, Tommy, and Dizzy have hyped this thing for years.


Title: Re: Can we assume that Axls listed favs are the 'Big Guns'?
Post by: bh339 on April 10, 2006, 09:16:27 AM
These may be the big guns or may not be either way it doesn't mean it will be our favorite songs.  The Blues and Better are great but I wouldn't be surprised if we don't like Prostitute or This I Love (if it is on the album) just as much.  Remember these are Axl's faves, don't mean it will be the best to us.

Axl and company are the ones who have  been hyping us for years with Chinese Democracy, time to put it out while someone still cares.


Title: Re: Can we assume that Axls listed favs are the 'Big Guns'?
Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on April 11, 2006, 10:32:22 AM
agree with mistery man
Even those tracks are Axl's fave it doesnt mean they will be the big guns, I think Axl has something under his sleeve ;)


Title: Re: Can we assume that Axls listed favs are the 'Big Guns'?
Post by: Mandy. on April 11, 2006, 12:13:58 PM
I'm hoping The General is a big gun. But I dunno what to expect  ::)


Title: Re: Can we assume that Axls listed favs are the 'Big Guns'?
Post by: plasmabeam on April 11, 2006, 05:01:42 PM
agree with mistery man
Even those tracks are Axl's fave it doesnt mean they will be the big guns, I think Axl has something under his sleeve ;)

Under his sleeve? Hmm... we better get him to move his arm then  :-\


Title: Re: Can we assume that Axls listed favs are the 'Big Guns'?
Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on April 14, 2006, 05:46:18 PM
yeah but the surprise would be lost ;)


Title: Re: Can we assume that Axls listed favs are the 'Big Guns'?
Post by: Krispy Kreme on April 16, 2006, 12:04:04 AM
i assume that axl didn't want to mention too many song titles that we did'nt know... and/or the interviewer selected those song titles which were well known among gnr fans and rs journalist (blues / twat were alreadfy mentioned in rs in 99 or 00);

besides, on the tour 02 axl did not regard "blues" as a big gun ("still holding big guns back").

Yeah, but he would  have to be an idiot  to say, "Ok, you've been waiting 10 years and here are the three songs (Blues, Maddy, CD) that I have written. And then Dizzy wrote a piece  of shit called Silkworms but I have nothing else so we  will play it."

Get real.